Episode #1: Mad at MTV

[tromoly]

They problem is Revision3 used to have a line-up where every fan liked every show. They're not that company anymore. They don't WANT to be. They're making quality shows for a wider range of people.

Key word that's not found in this show.

[masherscf]

I know Masher, I'll keep things civil. I almost lost my cool but went back and made an edit to one of my posts. :)

I've done that too. I was about 30-seconds away from banning a mutual acquaintance. I stepped back from that. I count on you guys to set an example.

[xibalba]

Can't we all just get along?

[mavrevmatt]

Why should we keep it within the rules of conduct when he won't?
Respond right here. Just keep it within the rules of conduct.

[mavrevmatt]

And I should care why?

That doesn't make his insulting the Revision3 community any less horrible for Revision3's business.
Here is his wife seriously ... http://www.natashayionline.com/images/news/58126.jpg

[phatlip]

Sarah Lanes response to "JVs" shenanigans tonight.

http://twitter.com/sarahlane/status/1702132873

[Shadow125]

He did bring up an interesting thing but as for the quality, it seems more like a YouTube podcast. Would be nicer if there was an introduction to what the show will be about and who's on it. (something longer than just the intro)

[xibalba]

He wasn't insulting the revision3 community just the 5 or 6 complainers in this thread.

[phatlip]

Why should we keep it within the rules of conduct when he won't?

I agree, it's not fair. But unfortunately, Masher doesn't make the rules. You can't shoot the messenger.

[phatlip]

He wasn't insulting the revision3 community just the 5 or 6 complainers in this thread.

5 or 6? Was that a joke?

[nextgenxbox]

I think many viewers were going to give the show a 2nd chance with the following episodes but seeing how JV has reacted, I think they will no longer support anything he does. Perhaps if he would have reacted in a more positive way, people would have changed their opinions.

He could have said something like "Man, you guys really voice your opinions! While I wish they were positive, I can respect your POV. What do you guys think would make the show better? Let's work together to create a better show."

Instead, he goes on live on his site and starts calling the Rev3 viewers ****ots, queers, bitches and dicks. This isn't the way to make new fans. You have to connect with them.

That is why all the shows on Rev3 are hits and why the hosts are so beloved by the community.

[phatlip]

He wasn't insulting the revision3 community just the 5 or 6 complainers in this thread.

5 or 6? Was that a joke? If he did all of that over only 5 or 6 people, wouldn't that be a bit of an over reaction?

[hrvat]

You work for the OCA or are you a sensitive little bitch?

I actually have the audio because I think its funny, just like I find your mother's penis funny.

....really
I love how the older ones are getting crap from moderators but this fanboy is getting away with being rude. This shit shouldn't be tolerated on the forums. Speak respectfully. Your new and trying to express your opinion and thats fine, but we don't speak like that here. gtfo

[phatlip]

I think many viewers were going to give the show a 2nd chance with the following episodes but seeing how JV has reacted, I think they will no longer support anything he does. Perhaps if he would have reacted in a more positive way, people would have changed their opinions.

He could have said something like "Man, you guys really voice your opinions! While I wish they were positive, I can respect your POV. What do you guys think would make the show better? Let's work together to create a better show."

Instead, he goes on live on his site and starts calling the Rev3 viewers ****ots, queers, bitches and dicks. This isn't the way to make new fans. You have to connect with them.

That is why all the shows on Rev3 are hits and why the hosts are so beloved by the community.

Exactly. Okay, people didn't like the show. Who cares? A lot of people also didn't like the first episode of Tekzilla. Patrick Norton didn't go and insult the audience though.

They listened, took suggestions and worked to make it better.

[undergroundwire]

Why should we keep it within the rules of conduct when he won't?

Uhh, JV didn't outside of this site. Get a show outside of this site and rant all you want.

[mikeyhustle]

Who is this Martin guy? And if he is so good... WHERE IS HE? He must have been good if all you dorks are riding his nuts.

And if you dont like it... Change the channel!! Im new here... But I did notice many other OPTIONS to view.

[xibalba]

5 or 6? Was that a joke? If he did all of that over only 5 or 6 people, wouldn't that be a bit of an over reaction?

Have you never listened to a shock jock before? I have heard them go on rants like that over 1 person pissing them off.

[undergroundwire]

....really
I love how the older ones are getting crap from moderators but this fanboy is getting away with being rude. This shit shouldn't be tolerated on the forums. Speak respectfully. Your new and trying to express your opinion and thats fine, but we don't speak like that here. gtfo

Sorry to upset you. I didn't mean for you to go up on a panic. But the mod knew I was new and you guys should set an example instead of trolling. So I guess it is a shame for you.

[poindexterc]

First of all, Rev3 shows supposed to be about tech or tech like subjects right? This I can only equate to something that I would see on YouTube!!! The overall production value of this show is rather low also, it looks like it was shot on a web cam. Honestly, I dont come to Rev3 to see poorly produced youtube videos, that is what youtube is for. Please Rev3 cancel this show now, it is not good for either your brand or your target demo.

[mavrevmatt]

How about before you insult people, you do a little research to find out what the fuck you're talking about?

Martin, and Sarah and Jay and the others, are gone because someone coughjlouderbcough decided that it made financial sense to lay off some of Revision3's best talent.

It's not about not liking the show, it's about not liking how much of an asshole this guy is to us.
Who is this Martin guy? And if he is so good... WHERE IS HE? He must have been good if all you dorks are riding his nuts.

And if you dont like it... Change the channel!! Im new here... But I did notice many other OPTIONS to view.

[mavrevmatt]

These are the Revision3 forums. JV's new show is on the Revision3 network. This is where the interaction should be taking place, not on his personal playground.
Uhh, JV didn't outside of this site. Get a show outside of this site and rant all you want.

[mavrevmatt]

Except you joined just to troll, most likely.
Sorry to upset you. I didn't mean for you to go up on a panic. But the mod knew I was new and you guys should set an example instead of trolling. So I guess it is a shame for you.

[guytheninja]

Who is this Martin guy? And if he is so good... WHERE IS HE? He must have been good if all you dorks are riding his nuts.

And if you dont like it... Change the channel!! Im new here... But I did notice many other OPTIONS to view.

Martin Sargent has moved on to twit.tv. He used to be the host of Internet Superstar -- among others
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Sargent

[masherscf]

Why should we keep it within the rules of conduct when he won't?

This forum exists for the purpose of providing revision3 viewers a place to network socially and provide feed back to revision3 programs. All constructive comments are welcome.

However, there are well established rules of conduct.


1. Profane language may be necessary in certain situations to enhance a personal opinion, but use it with moderation. Targeting an individual or company with insults is unacceptable.

2. Creating comments about a person or group of people that is racist, threatening, insulting, abusive, etc is not allowed.

3. Be kind to other members by showing respect to their opinions and feelings. Making false claims about a person or company is prohibited. The use of the Revision3 forums is a privilege, not a right. Having a negative attitude, being a snob, and flaming will not be tolerated anywhere.

[undergroundwire]

First of all, Rev3 shows supposed to be about tech or tech like subjects right? This I can only equate to something that I would see on YouTube!!! The overall production value of this show is rather low also, it looks like it was shot on a web cam. Honestly, I dont come to Rev3 to see poorly produced youtube videos, that is what youtube is for. Please Rev3 cancel this show now, it is not good for either your brand or your target demo.

Welcome to the middle of the conversation. Just in case you don't know it was shot from his home. By episode 3 it will be shot from a studio. Please stay and enjoy the rest of the conversation.

[redescape]

why doesn't rev3 make 'beta' live again and use a 'digg' like rating system to pick our, keyword OUR!!!! favorite show. Who cares about followers(viewers), revision3 is the 'leader' in internet video and SHOULD listen to their viewers regardless if your numbers are going crazy today cause we're pissed at him.

enough said.

[tenny]

How about before you insult people, you do a little research to find out what the fuck you're talking about?

Martin, and Sarah and Jay and the others, are gone because someone coughjlouderbcough decided that it made financial sense to lay off some of Revision3's best talent.

It's not about not liking the show, it's about not liking how much of an asshole this guy is to us.

Maybe because they were not getting unique visitors to the site and they dont want to end up like coughTechTvcough

[mavrevmatt]

I understand that, all I'm asking is that you pass on to Revision3 that their hosts should follow these rules of conduct as well. It looks horrible for their business.
This forum exists for the purpose of providing revision3 viewers a place to network socially and provide feed back to revision3 programs. All constructive comments are welcome.

However, there are well established rules of conduct.

[tromoly]

Maybe because they were not getting unique visitors to the site and they dont want to end up like coughTechTvcough

After TechTV merged with G4 they changed everything in their lineup, the G4 layoffs and Rev3's layoffs have absolutely nothing in common.

[tuxotaku]

why doesn't rev3 make 'beta' live again and use a 'digg' like rating system to pick our, keyword OUR!!!! favorite show. Who cares about followers(viewers), revision3 is the 'leader' in internet video and SHOULD listen to their viewers regardless if your numbers are going crazy today cause we're pissed at him.

enough said.


Dude, if I could digg forum posts, I'd game the hell out of what you just said until it got over 9000 diggs *snicker*.

Seriously though, bravo for being the big man here and understanding the situation. Jim, friendly piece of advice, keep this guy around...he knows what he's talking about. :D

[giancarlo]

As much as I hate MTV, I couldn't watch the entire clip. I agree with other people when saying this doesn't feel like Rev3.

[redescape]

Seriously though, bravo for being the big man here and understanding the situation. Jim, friendly piece of advice, keep this guy around...he knows what he's talking about. :D

Use to work here, that may have a reason....

[undergroundwire]

Wow, JV is a racist and married an Asian? I wonder if all the jokes were just jokes. Hmmm. Let me think about that for a sec.

Apparently Mikey didn't get my sarcasim with joshmattvander comment. joshmattvander pointed out something that most of the people here didn't know. Mikey I wasn't attacking Josh at all. I was glad he pointed it out.

PS, joshmattvander thanks for the link to the pic. I will appreciate it later, lol.

[masherscf]

I understand that, all I'm asking is that you pass on to Revision3 that their hosts should follow these rules of conduct as well. It looks horrible for their business.

I agree. All Revision3 personalities are expected to adhere to forum rules while posting in the forum.

That a new Revision3 personality felt empowered to personally attack members his the audience may seem discouraging. I suggest that this is part of his particular shtick and you shouldn't take it personally.

[zeroneuro]

I take it that Revision 3 endorses and agrees with JV's opinions on this issue? http://twitter.com/revision3 I mean they did retweet it out. So anything said is technically fair game for these discussion forums.

But, I have to say that from what little I have heard, this guy has no business being on this network. I change my mind from what I have said before.

I am very disappointed in Revision 3, and those that are associated with this guy. He is representing Revision 3 right now.

And from what I have heard tonight? I think if this is the future direction of this network, I wish you all the luck in the world. But this is not the place I want to get my entertainment from.

It's a shame that TRS, Diggnation, Tekzilla, Co-Op and a few other shows have to be sullied by this thing. But I guess that is Jim's progressive decision.

[undergroundwire]

Except you joined just to troll, most likely.

I joined because I like listening to him and defending him against some of the overly sensitive people on here. Drop it already and move on. buh bye.

[tromoly]

Wow, JV is a racist and married an Asian? I wonder if all the jokes were just jokes. Hmmm. Let me think about that for a sec.

She's Korean, he called a Chinese restaurant, different cultures yo.

[phatlip]

She's Korean, he called a Chinese restaurant, different cultures yo.

Umm, Korea is in Asia.

[tuxotaku]

She's Korean, he called a Chinese restaurant, different cultures yo.

aaaand that makes it all better how? hey, wait a minute...isn't Chuck Chinese? wherefor art though, Chuckles? you still supporting this silly sod after the crap he's been spouting about your countrymen?

[mavrevmatt]

Your personal attacks and insults towards other members aren't doing much for defending him. If anything it's hurting.
I joined because I like listening to him and defending him against some of the overly sensitive people on here. Drop it already and move on. buh bye.

[tromoly]

Umm, Korea is in Asia.

Point is that you can be racist against Chinese but love Japanese, Koreans, etc. They have different customs and whatnot, they're not the exact same people.

Like how people hate Mexicans but love Canadians, they're all from North America but have different customs and whatnot.

[phatlip]

aaaand that makes it all better how? hey, wait a minute...isn't Chuck Chinese? wherefor art though, Chuckles? you still supporting this silly sod after the crap he's been spouting about your countrymen?

And he can't even pretend to not be offended, because Chuckles got offended when someone made a comment about things made in Chinese factories being of a lesser quality.

[tenny]

Maybe Pablo Francisco is a racist too .... check url http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA2J0H12prQ

[jc-magnus]

Honestly, I would go on a rant about how much this first episode not only disappointed me, but made me think about Revision3 as a whole, but it's not worth it.

The company can take whatever direction they want, but that doesn't mean I'll care for it or follow it.

I think this sums it up best... *sigh*

[undergroundwire]

Your personal attacks and insults towards other members aren't doing much for defending him. If anything it's hurting.

As a matter of fact it some of the people with closed minds but really big obnoxious mouths here that are hurting this site and maybe why most of his fans won't even participate here. That would hurt revision 3 don't you think.


Second, it hurt so much that everyone ran to the other site to hear what he had to say? Hmm. Ok.

For those that are still hurting, check out why he was number one for 10 years, beating Stern in the ratings.

http://Wild949.com weekdays from 6AM - 10AM PST.

[guytheninja]

He wasn't insulting the revision3 community just the 5 or 6 complainers in this thread.

If it makes you feel any better -- I don't hate the guy. I just didn't like JV's first show, and I'm not really into shock jocks either. I also don't care what names he calls me -- He doesn't know me personally, so who cares.

However, I do think this is a PR debacle for both him and Rev3. I think that his show could have had a much better start than this. Instead, it has turned into a 30 page flame war.

Anyway, I don't know if things will work out for him or not on Rev3, but I don't wish ill on him either.

[chuckles]

when xlr8rtv (http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4317) was introduced... when tekzilla (http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10202) was introduced.. and when digg reel (http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13800) was introduced.. but they each found their viewers and have a community around them. This is what is great about IPTV and Revision3. If you don't like the show, it is okay not to watch. It doesn't take up the prime time slot of your favorite show like on traditional television. It is there if you want to watch.. or you can simply ignore it..

-chuckles-

[phatlip]

when xlr8rtv (http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4317) was introduced... when tekzilla (http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10202) was introduced.. and when digg reel (http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13800) was introduced.. but they each found their viewers and have a community around them. This is what is great about IPTV and Revision3. If you don't like the show, it is okay not to watch. It doesn't take up the prime time slot of your favorite show like on traditional television. It is there if you want to watch.. or you can simply ignore it..

-chuckles-

I agree Chuck. I actually pointed this out. This is different though, because rather then listening to the community and making improvements, the host attacked the company- your customers. That's not cool.

I know one thing. If I called the customers were I worked fagots and queers, I would be fired on the spot. There are homosexuals that are part of this community. By Revision3 backing this guy you support hate speech.

[zeroneuro]

Not to mention the racist, sexist, and anti-gay slurs being tossed around like a kid in juvenile hall... I think that's somethign that none of the other shows have ever done.

And a few of them even had Martin! :D

I agree Chuck. I actually pointed this out. This is different though, because rather then listening to the community and making improvements, the host attacked the company- your customers. That's not cool.

I know one thing. If I called the customers were I worked fagots I would be fired on the spot.

[phatlip]

Not to mention the racist, sexist, and anti-gay slurs being tossed around like a kid in juvenile hall... I think that's somethign that none of the other shows have ever done.

And a few of them even had Martin! :D

One time, I was stupid and made the immature and unintelligent comment that something was gay (gay as in lame) and I heard crap from it. But this is okay?

[ha1f]

Well Rev3, I'm done.

I didn't complain when diggnation got stale and overrun with ads (it even started picking back up for me recently). I didn't complain when you forced the TRS guys to start cutting off their segments to fit a time slot. I didn't say anything when Martin and Sarah went away. I had faith. But not anymore. This could have just been another show I didn't watch, I don't expect everything to fit my tastes, but when you bring a personality on board who thinks it's okay to diss the community like that (and let's be honest, Rev3 is all about community, you don't really get passers by here) it sort of tells me that Rev3 isn't something I want to be a part of anymore (I dunno, I didn't listen all the way through, maybe he said it was a joke or something). I don't have anything against JV (he might just not "get it"), and I don't have anything against the people who defend his show (if it's your thing, it's your thing).

So yeah, we're not doing this anymore Rev3. Atleast for a little while.

[chuckles]

There are homosexuals that are part of this community. By Revision3 backing this guy you support hate speech.

By that logic, you can say that about just every media company.

-chuckles-

[phatlip]

By that logic, you can say that about just every media company.

-chuckles-

Really? Because I don't recall hearing NBC calling their viewers fagots. I can tell you this though, if Jay Leno called the audience fagots I can guarantee you there would be repercussions.

By Revision3 backing this guy, the company supports hate speech. It's as simple as that.

[guytheninja]

One time, I was stupid and made the immature and unintelligent comment that something was gay (gay as in lame) and I heard crap from it. But this is okay?

Where are you guys hearing this? I've visited his website but I don't hear anything on the FM player.

[undergroundwire]

By that logic, you can say that about just every media company.

-chuckles-

When people say that's gay it'd not disrespecting homosexuals.

Give him another shot before you start hating.

[phatlip]

Where are you guys hearing this? I've visited his website but I don't hear anything on the FM player.

I don't know if he's broadcasting anymore.

[chuckles]

When people say that's gay it'd not disrespecting homosexuals.

Give him another shot before you start hating.

Who is hating here? :) I happen to like the show.

-chuckles-

[sonic-mike]

Really? Because I don't recall hearing NBC calling their viewers fagots. I can tell you this though, if Jay Leno called the audience fagots I can guarantee you there would be repercussions.

By Revision3 backing this guy, the company supports hate speech. It's as simple as that.

So by him calling a fagot were you offended? Sure I dona agree with everything JV says but you can see his point of view if your not closed minded.

[chuckles]

Really? Because I don't recall hearing NBC calling their viewers fagots. I can tell you this though, if Jay Leno called the audience fagots I can guarantee you there would be repercussions.

By Revision3 backing this guy, the company supports hate speech. It's as simple as that.

NBC is own by GE which also owns Universal.. I am very certain that some of their shows/movies have used those words.

-chuckles-

[undergroundwire]

Who is hating here? :) I happen to like the show.

-chuckles-

Oops quoted you instead of someone else. My bad. I guess it means time for bed when I start seeing double.

[undergroundwire]

NBC is own by GE which also owns Universal.. I am very certain that some of their shows/movies have used those words.

-chuckles-

I have seen murder on TV. Does that mean NBC supports violence? lol.

[tromoly]

NBC is own by GE which also owns Universal.. I am very certain that some of their shows/movies have used those words.

Difference is that they aren't saying it to people who disagree with their show.

Oops quoted you instead of someone else. My bad. I guess it means time for bed when I start seeing double.

Or time to lay off the Cristal.

[phatlip]

I have seen murder on TV. Does that mean NBC supports violence? lol.

Is NBC the one committing the murder?

[undergroundwire]

Or time to lay off the Cristal.

Don't mess with the stuff but if that was your assumption, time to look inside yourself. lol

[phatlip]

NBC is own by GE which also owns Universal.. I am very certain that some of their shows/movies have used those words.

-chuckles-

Yes Chuckles, and movies also aren't real. They're stories.

[jc-magnus]

NBC is own by GE which also owns Universal.. I am very certain that some of their shows/movies have used those words.

-chuckles-

So that makes it o.k. for any other show to do it?

[undergroundwire]

Is NBC the one committing the murder?

Is revision 3 the one supporting hate? just because something is said DON'T TAKE IT LITERAL.

[kingraf01]

There are homosexuals that are part of this community. By Revision3 backing this guy you support hate speech.

So by you staying a part of the Revision3 community u support hate speech? Seriously not trying to start another troll/flame/fanboy/rant... 30 more pages of everyone trying to get the last word in but that was a little over the top don't you think? I'm new here so no I'm no Rev3 expert, but from what i gather rev3 is TRYING to broaden the audience base? Just cause you don't agree with them you are assuming they are backing all the "hate" you think he's portraying?

I didn't catch JV's live show, I had things to do. I wish i had because his live web shows way beat the radio shows as far as entertainment, but if he was going off I can kind of understand it, but don't take his bashing of rev3 too serious. I didn't like the 30 pages of people calling us jv fans, his lil fanboys or puppets (or whatever was said) and talking down to us for our backing of him, but hey I'm a new kid on this street so whatever. I'm not leaving cause i don't agree with rev3 or it's forum folks, i'm going to try & check out the other shows recommended to see if rev3 is for me or if I'm only gonna tune into JV's world.

As for the term "fanboys" i think that's kinda gay sounding (not that there's anything wrong wit it... lol) Just call me a fan of JV's, and if you judge me on that, well that's ok I won't lose sleep over it. :D

[chuckles]

I cannot speak for how homosexuals interpret the words JV used, but there are context. It is like when someone calls me a chink. It depends how it is used. Hell sometimes I even kid around about it.. What do you call a skinny chinaman? A chink. What do you call a fat chinaman? A chunk. In this case it is funny.. now if someone comes up to me and tells me to get my slanted eyed chink ass back to China, well that is a different story.. isn't it?

-chuckles-

[phatlip]

So by him calling a fagot were you offended? Sure I dona agree with everything JV says but you can see his point of view if your not closed minded.

Yes, I was. I have friends, co-workers and even a gay family member.

Closed mindedness isn't taking offense to bigotry. Bigotry is closed mindedness.

[chuckles]

Yes Chuckles, and movies also aren't real. They're stories.

So what is different between a movie and JV's World besides the obvious?

-chuckles-

[phatlip]

I cannot speak for how homosexuals interpret the words JV used, but there are context. It is like when someone calls me a chink. It depends how it is used. Hell sometimes I even kid around about it.. What do you call a skinny chinaman? A chink. What do you call a fat chinaman? A chunk. In this case it is funny.. now if someone comes up to me and tells me to get my slanted eyed chink ass back to China, well that is a different story.. isn't it?

-chuckles-

Yeah, that's racist. What's your point? Is it okay to call African Americans niggers sometimes?

Chuck, I like you dude but I would re-think what you're saying. You work for Revision3 and you're really making it seems like the company supports bigotry. You're defending it.

[chuckles]

So that makes it o.k. for any other show to do it?

No. I am not saying it is okay. I am just arguing the fact that he said Revision3 supports hate speech.

-chuckles-

[phatlip]

So what is different between a movie and JV's World besides the obvious?

-chuckles-

A movie is fiction. What JV said wasn't fiction. It was a personal attack against YOUR customers.

[phatlip]

No. I am not saying it is okay. I am just arguing the fact that he said Revision3 supports hate speech.

-chuckles-

Well, basically everything you just said further proved my point. You said calling an Asian a chink isn't racist. You're defending racism.

I would seriously re-think what you're saying Chuck.

[chuckles]

Yeah, that's racist. What's your point? Is it okay to call African Americans niggers sometimes?

Chuck, I like you dude but I would re-think what you're saying. You work for Revision3 and you're really making it seems like the company supports bigotry. You're defending it.

No I am not defending bigotry. What I am defending is you insinuating that we support hate speech. Which we DON"T!! You're entitled to your opinion and I am certainly entitled to mine. The fact that I am a Revision3 employee does not mean I cannot defend my opinion.

-chuckles-

[phatlip]

Is revision 3 the one supporting hate? just because something is said DON'T TAKE IT LITERAL.

JV is a Revision3 using hate speech. He represents Revision3.

[phatlip]

No I am not defending bigotry. What I am defending is you insinuating that we support hate speech. Which we DON"T!!

-chuckles-

Then why are you defending him using hate speech?

[aaronsaund]

Please tell me JV wasn't insulting people who were criticizing the show... I thought the first show was awful. It was irrelevant (MTV? Really?) and I didn't really like his personality but I'm not rejecting him or saying the show shouldn't be on this network. But if he is going to insult us then **** him and **** Rev3 for supporting that behavior. Broaden your audience with different types of shows, we don't care but please don't do it by showing us this garbage.

[undergroundwire]

Then why are you defending him using hate speech?

Hitler was hate speak. What JV said is just slang and not to be taken literal.

[phatlip]

You're entitled to your opinion and I am certainly entitled to mine. The fact that I am a Revision3 employee does not mean I cannot defend my opinion.

-chuckles-

Yes Chuck, but as an employee you represent the company. It's bad enough one of your employee's used hate speech and insulted your customers.

It's not helping when other employees (who represent the company) defend it.

Again, if I'm at work and call someone a fagot I'm fired. I represent the company and the company doesn't support that. I seriously hope Revision3 doesn't, but according to what took place and what you've said they do. Again, you're defending his actions which were hate speech.

[chuckles]

Well, basically everything you just said further proved my point. You said calling an Asian a chink isn't racist. You're defending racism.

I would seriously re-think what you're saying Chuck.

My point is that it really depends on how the word is used. I chose to use the term "chink" because I can relate to it. And the line about "Getting your slant eyed..." it was used against me. One I laughed at.. one I took offense to.

-chuckles-

[kingraf01]

A movie is fiction. What JV said wasn't fiction. It was a personal attack against YOUR customers.

Yes it was an all out attack to each and EVERY one of the Revision3 paying customers and staff members because JV is so anti-gay and racist and just happens to have a hit radio show in the bay area because it's a strictly white and straight community like new york where he was also a success. I don't know why Rev3 hasn't shut his channel down yet!

LMAO seriously, if you don't like it, change the "channel" or start a petition or something.

[undergroundwire]

Yes Chuck, but as an employee you represent the company. It's bad enough one of your employee's used hate speech and insulted your customers.

It's not helping when other employees (who represent the company) defend it.

Again, if I'm at work and call someone a fagot I'm fired. I represent the company and the company doesn't support that. I seriously hope Revision3 doesn't, but according to what took place and what you've said they do. Again, you're defending his actions which were hate speech.

If I am at my job and yell obscene comments to woman I would get fired but construction workers do it all the time. Also, I thought this was TV where is the freedom of Speech.

[phatlip]

My point is that it really depends on how the word is used. I chose to use the term "chink" because I can relate to it. And the line about "Getting your slant eyed..." it was used against me. One I laughed at.. one I took offense to.

-chuckles-

The context was him calling the community fagots. It would be a different story if he said "I hate when people use the word fagot". No, he called the community (which has some openly gay members) fagots.

[chuckles]

Yes Chuck, but as an employee you represent the company. It's bad enough one of your employee's used hate speech and insulted your customers.

It's not helping when other employees (who represent the company) defend it.

Again, if I'm at work and call someone a fagot I'm fired. I represent the company and the company doesn't support that. I seriously hope Revision3 doesn't, but according to what took place and what you've said they do. Again, you're defending his actions which were hate speech.

Revision3 does NOT support hate speech. And quite frankly, I don't think he used hate speech. He used inflammatory words.. but so did you.. does that make you a hate monger?

-chuckles-

[tokenuser]

Its a little after midnight on the east coast.
I have had an itchy ban hammer for much of the evening ... but have resisted the urge. FFS, where would I start??

So, I am taking an unprecedented step ... I am locking this thread for a couple of hours.

Step away from the keyboards for awhile.

And when you return in the morning remember the following:

If you are new here or haven't done so, go and have a read (or re-read) the Revision3 Forums - Rules of Conduct (http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=703).

I'd like to focus on Rule #2 - "The Tolerance Rule" ...
2. Creating comments about a person or group of people that is racist, threatening, insulting, abusive, etc is not allowed.

And its companion Rule #3 - "The Do Unto Others Rule" ... (not my words, but you get the picture)
3. Be kind to other members by showing respect to their opinions and feelings. Making false claims about a person or company is prohibited. The use of the Revision3 forums is a privilege, not a right. Having a negative attitude, being a snob, and flaming will not be tolerated anywhere.

Sit back ... think for a moment. Remember the use of the Revision3 forums is a privilege, not a right. part.

Noone says everyone has to like every show on Revision3. There are some I watch weekly, others when I have time, and others I don't watch. If you don't like a subject in the forums, or a podcast episode, move on.

Nothing wrong with having a different opinion, just remember to discuss them as mature adults.

Taking those discussions and degenerating them into a hostile and bitter flame fest that traverses the forums, and permeates the threads on the board and moves into PM slanging matches is an entirely different story.

IT STOPS NOW.

I am generally pretty lenient, but if you all want to be treated as adults, you have to stop behaving like children.

Ongoing violations of Rule 2 and Rule 3 will result in suspension of access rights to the forums. Continuing to violate Rule 2 and Rule 3 will result in total banning from the system.

We have a common interest here that transcends colour and creed - lets get back to that and leave the rest at the door.

(cut, paste, and repost ... people got in between me posting and the lock ... damn you guys are fast)

[claret8211]

Soooo you don't see a problem when you have to lock the fucking thread? I see that as a big problem.

[jax1492]

Soooo you don't see a problem when you have to lock the fucking thread? I see that as a big problem.

It would seem that he locked it because of the influx of trolls who have come out of nowhere to pick fights and drop the f'bomb.

I would love it if we could get back to a civil conversation. :)

The show for me was not good not because of the graphics, it was about the content and even the hosts delivery. I am sure he is a great radio host but he came over all wrong in the video. We watch rev3 because we like non-cable tv and unique shows that you can't get any where else and i thought picking a fight with MTV was like a who cares? and then he went on to make fun of the people he was trying to stand up for. I think he could have made a different impression with his first show and this would have been a somewhat better response. I also didn't like his response to some bad reviews either totally uncalled for.

[tokenuser]

Soooo you don't see a problem when you have to lock the fucking thread? I see that as a big problem.Yes. I see a problem ... but I suspect I see it differently to you.

I see the problem as content that did not appeal to some people who instead of say "meh, is not for me", decided to rant on about it.
I see the problem as people who did like the content (or JV) creating new accounts to defend their position.
I see the problem then escalating post by post into a pissing contest.

Noone is right.
Noone is wrong.

It is a difference of opinion, and both sides of the fence needed to step back and calm down. That is why the tread was locked instead of (as instinct first told me) banning people. It gave all parties a chance to calm down.

[stevet819]

The only problem I see is people not realizing everyone has a choice. A choice to listen to a specific radio station, tv channel, internet show, etc etc. If you don't like it move on. I have been a fan of JV for since 1994. I understand JV is not for everyone so at the end of the day if his type of humor and show is not for you then change the channel or don't watch his show. Is there stuff JV needs to work on and fix for his new show...Yes, but give it a chance or move on to something else. Rev 3 is trying to expand there audience, can you blame them for wanting to see what else is out there? I am sure if things don't work out they will do something about it...But things take time to develop and 1 show is not enough to come to a conclusion about a show.

[kingraf01]

I definitely agree it was needed, and as a newbie glad no other newbies got banned right away.

[jax1492]

The only problem I see is people not realizing everyone has a choice. A choice to listen to a specific radio station, tv channel, internet show, etc etc. If you don't like it move on. I have been a fan of JV for since 1994. I understand JV is not for everyone so at the end of the day if his type of humor and show is not for you then change the channel or don't watch his show. Is there stuff JV needs to work on and fix for his new show...Yes, but give it a chance or move on to something else. Rev 3 is trying to expand there audience, can you blame them for wanting to see what else is out there? I am sure if things don't work out they will do something about it...But things take time to develop and 1 show is not enough to come to a conclusion about a show.

Then why didn't he just ask for critique? I personally could not listen to this man again, I don't like being insulted.

[padenx]

Well, I skipped from page 1 to here so I may have missed some comments.
The show was annoying. I feel like I was watching some bad Youtube commentary.
I was also going to make the comment about Rev3 not being able to afford Marty and Sara but puts this out, but I see some of those got deleted so I really don't expect this post to last long :(

"If it doesn't affect you, don't watch it."

It does affect me. This means there's less money for Rev3 to do good shows.

[sully213]

....and I don't mean that in a good way. I don't find a 5 minute rant entertaining, no matter what the topic is. Yeah, MTV sucks, it has for a long time now and anyone with half a brain (i.e., most of Rev3's audience) knows that. I don't need someone else to tell me that. The part where JV goes to the MTV offices and just leaves when they ask him to turn off the camera? Total wussification there, "tough guy".

This is not what I expect from Rev3. This show is 100% fail. Please move onto something else.

[jackie13]

I don't find a 5 minute rant entertaining, no matter what the topic is. Yeah, MTV sucks, it has for a long time now and anyone with half a brain (i.e., most of Rev3's audience) knows that. I don't need someone else to tell me that. The part where JV goes to the MTV offices and just leaves when they ask him to turn off the camera? Total wussification there, "tough guy".

This is not what I expect from Rev3. This show is 100% fail. Please move onto something else.

yes... it was definitely full of rant... but one should expect this... if you look at the front page where it says to watch his show, you will see it reads, "welcome to jvs world. nobodys safe from the rants of jv." if you knew you wouldnt enjoy a rant, or find it entertaining at all, then maybe you shouldnt have bothered to watch it... its just a waste of your time...

and the part where jv goes into the mtv offices to tell them how he felt, well, he was trying to make his audience laugh by trying to act all tough and failing once he stepped in the offices... im not sure how people are completely missing his sarcasm and humor...

[zeroneuro]

I have no problems with his show. That just wasn't my thing, but I'm not a shock jock radio kinda guy.

My problems with him lie solely in how he handled his retort yesterday evening. The language he chose, and the manner in which he conducted himself.

So if you want the truth his show is not my issue. My issue is how he represented himself, and therefore how he represented Revision 3. Make no mistake, anyone who gets a show on this network will be considered a representative thereof.

Freedom of speech does not absolve anyone of the responsibility of what they say. He should apologize, sincerely and without sarcasm, to the Revision 3 community. And Revision 3 should also apologize for allowing this situation.

In some ways, I don't blame JV for what he did. I don't think it was ever explained to him, just what was expected. He just did what he does. But you can't get where he is without having to hear criticism. And the words he used last night were rather over the line of common sense as well as decency.

yes... it was definitely full of rant... but one should expect this... if you look at the front page where it says to watch his show, you will see it reads, "welcome to jvs world. nobodys safe from the rants of jv." if you knew you wouldnt enjoy a rant, or find it entertaining at all, then maybe you shouldnt have bothered to watch it... its just a waste of your time...

and the part where jv goes into the mtv offices to tell them how he felt, well, he was trying to make his audience laugh by trying to act all tough and failing once he stepped in the offices... im not sure how people are completely missing his sarcasm and humor...

[mr-underachiever]

when xlr8rtv (http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4317) was introduced... when tekzilla (http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10202) was introduced.. and when digg reel (http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13800) was introduced.. but they each found their viewers and have a community around them. This is what is great about IPTV and Revision3. If you don't like the show, it is okay not to watch. It doesn't take up the prime time slot of your favorite show like on traditional television. It is there if you want to watch.. or you can simply ignore it..

-chuckles-

What about when Social Brew and Mysteries of Science were introduced?

[dantex64]

when xlr8rtv (http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4317) was introduced... when tekzilla (http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10202) was introduced.. and when digg reel (http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13800) was introduced.. but they each found their viewers and have a community around them. This is what is great about IPTV and Revision3. If you don't like the show, it is okay not to watch. It doesn't take up the prime time slot of your favorite show like on traditional television. It is there if you want to watch.. or you can simply ignore it..

-chuckles-

I see what you're getting at but I feel it is more similar to the ummm... aquireation of Hak5, which brought Hak5 viewers over here. Hak5 fitted in with the other shows and the viewers mixed well with the regulars here. The audience for JV's world is completely different.

Thanks,
/Dante

[krishnancc]

I see what you're getting at but I feel it is more similar to the ummm... aquireation of Hak5, which brought Hak5 viewers over here. Hak5 fitted in with the other shows and the viewers mixed well with the regulars here. The audience for JV's world is completely different.

Thanks,
/Dante

I was actually surprised the brought hak5 on with shows like systm and tekzilla, but it has found its niche here with advanced pc/server hacks and mods ... but I agree the JV show seems different and stands out too much (as it is now).

[krishnancc]

yes... it was definitely full of rant... but one should expect this... if you look at the front page where it says to watch his show, you will see it reads, "welcome to jvs world. nobodys safe from the rants of jv." if you knew you wouldnt enjoy a rant, or find it entertaining at all, then maybe you shouldnt have bothered to watch it... its just a waste of your time...

and the part where jv goes into the mtv offices to tell them how he felt, well, he was trying to make his audience laugh by trying to act all tough and failing once he stepped in the offices... im not sure how people are completely missing his sarcasm and humor...

I don't think people are missing it they just don't find it funny or entertaining to watch. For me this was the case but with that said i don't think Dave Chappelle could have made that segment work.

[jsc315]

I for one didn't find the guy funny or really all that good of a show, but the people claiming that hes spewing hate speech and REV3 is backing that up is just stupid.
Having worked in radio there are people out there that have to be controversial just to get a rise out of people. Its that fake shock jock radio mentality that the more shocking you are the more people will tune in to see the controversy. That is true to a point but its not real by any means and all it does is annoy me. Its all fake hated and these guys just try to get a rise out of everyone here just to tune in for the next show to say what he will say.
This is fake radio wars at its best. This guy is a one trick pony and this stuff died off long time ago. If he had anything new or talent to bring i may actually watch the show a second time. I'm more disappointed in Rev3 then anything.

[pyroonaswing]

so there was a lot to read, and i havent read it all, so i missed a lot of the hate talk or whatever was happening, but i have an opinion too, so, here it is.

for the first episode, i dont think it was very good. but hey, its the first episode, you cant expect gold. i think the idea has potential, but jv comes off as very abrasive. im gonna give the show another chance.

now, what im upset about, is what im listening to right now. saw this @ reply to krose on twitter. http://twitter.com/Grant_McNeil/status/1708047300

direct link to the audio.
http://www.mavrev.com/tmp/Audio_0001.wma

im not really sure what to say. i think hes probably a good radio personality, but doesn't fit here. i dont hate the guy, but the way hes talking to us as a whole in such a disrespectful manner does offended me. according to him, were all guys with zits on our noses who jerk off to star trek. i get that hes upset, but for him to attack this community in such an immature and disrespectful manner, it offends me. it almost sounds like he thinks we owe him a chance.

im still listening to this guy, and hes still calling us bastards and pussies. im sorry if this point has already been made and im just rehashing whats already been said, been im pretty irritated with this guy. hes pretty much belittling and yelling at us.

i dont know where im going with this, but for a first impression, this is terrible.

oh, i just got to the part where he said fagots.

okay. i dont like him. i understand the context in which he used it, but the fact is that he said it, and he know what it means. okay, im done.


=====EDIT======
alright, so i went and looked through and saw that all of my points have already been made. i keep wanting to give this guy a second chance, but he talks like he is so above all of us, that i just cant respect him. so ill take jsc315's advice, and ill just ignore him, i wont subscribe, and ill just try and let it go away.

[santiagod]

JV cured my testicular cancer. True story.

[jcduerr]

i enjoyed it seem like the rev3 community is afraid of change first they blow up on Gary V then JV on his first episode WOW just WOW

[rabidbadger]

JV cured my testicular cancer. True story.

If it was by "laying on hands" then I totally forgive his "****ot" reference. :eek: :D ;)

[santiagod]

If it was by "laying on hands" then I totally forgive his "****ot" reference. :eek: :D ;)

JV teaches Forgiveness. And yes, it was by laying of hands... an unusual laying of hands if I may add... more like fondling... but I digress. He is a kind man, I humbly approached him one day after he had finished up his daily workout jogging across the golden gate bridge 43 times with 2 hot babes on his shoulders... ah what a day, as the heavens them selves opened, he proclaimed "Whatup, G!". It was then that he reached for my berries and the cancer was gone. Praise him and his lightning bolts.

[krishnancc]

JV teaches Forgiveness. And yes, it was by laying of hands... an unusual laying of hands if I may add... more like fondling... but I digress. He is a kind man, I humbly approached him one day after he had finished up his daily workout jogging across the golden gate bridge 43 times with 2 hot babes on his shoulders... ah what a day, as the heavens them selves opened, he proclaimed "Whatup, G!". It was then that he reached for my berries and the cancer was gone. Praise him and his lightning bolts.

oh god another one of his troll army ...

[rabidbadger]

oh god another one of his troll army ...

Troll or not, I appreciate that Santiagod has a real sense of humor, and recognized mine. :p

[santiagod]

If my intention was trolling. I would make the obvious remark about your fat mother (weightily challenged, whatever) and bolt.

[krishnancc]

If my intention was trolling. I would make the obvious remark about your fat mother (weightily challenged, whatever) and bolt.

if this is the kind of people JV brings here ... rev3 needs to rethink their plans.

[santiagod]

if this is the kind of people JV brings here ... rev3 needs to rethink there plans.

You need to rethink your spell check, bucko. Least you could do before taking a shot is knowing the difference between "Their" and "There"... Us being so inferior and all.

[rabidbadger]

If my intention was trolling. I would make the obvious remark about your fat mother (weightily challenged, whatever) and bolt.

When my fat mother sits around the house, she sits "around" the house. In her slippers and bathrobe. Eating bon bons, watching price is right and calling out 1970's prices and wondering how Bob Barker got so fat, ugly and republican.

[krishnancc]

You need to rethink your spell check, bucko. Least you could do before taking a shot is knowing the difference between "Their" and "There"... Us being so inferior and all.

sigh ....

[santiagod]

Uh Oh, we have an edit up there. Common buddy, no fair. Face up to the total failure of that post. Embrace it, become one with it, BE it.

[rabidbadger]

You need to rethink your spell check, bucko. Least you could do before taking a shot is knowing the difference between "Their" and "There"... Us being so inferior and all.

Your grammar nazi is so fat when he sits around the Reichstag he sits "around" the Reichstag.

[santiagod]

Your grammar nazi is so fat when he sits around the Reichstag he sits "around" the Reichstag.

My grammar was killed by a German shepherd in 'Nam. How do you feel now, you insensitive prick?

[klitzy]

now, what im upset about, is what im listening to right now. saw this @ reply to krose on twitter. http://twitter.com/Grant_McNeil/status/1708047300

direct link to the audio.
http://www.mavrev.com/tmp/Audio_0001.wma

im not really sure what to s

Just a quick update. Kevin Rose actually @ replied him back and said he would listen.

[rabidbadger]

My grammar was killed by a German shepherd in 'Nam. How do you feel now, you insensitive prick?

You win this round, Kahhhhhhhhhhhnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!

[travislopes]

Just a quick update. Kevin Rose actually @ replied him back and said he would listen.

Step 2: Get him on tonight's BBLiveShow to talk about it.

[santiagod]

Step 2: Get him on tonight's BBLiveShow.

Step 3: Profit.



...wait I thought Step 1 was Stealing underpants?... no no no This makes no sense, you guys got it all wrong.

[travislopes]

Step 3: Profit.



...wait I thought Step 1 was Stealing underpants?... no no no This makes no sense, you guys got it all wrong.

No no no. You're doing it wrong.

Step 3: ???
Step 4 is Profit.

:D

[guytheninja]

Step 3: Profit.



...wait I thought Step 1 was Stealing underpants?... no no no This makes no sense, you guys got it all wrong.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/Michelangelo_Buonarroti_027.jpg/180px-Michelangelo_Buonarroti_027.jpg

Well here you go..... OH. Oh no! Profit not Prophet!!! Well come along Jeremiah, lets go :D.

[rabidbadger]

No no no. You're doing it wrong.

Step 3: ???
Step 4 is Profit.

:D

Step 5, sniff underpants and reminisce.

[mikeyhustle]

I just listened to the audio that was posted (I missed the show on JVsWorld.com). I dont get why everyone is up in arms about it?

"Putting your d*ck in a sock.. Sticking it in between your mattress.. And pounding to Princess Leigha.." OMG I fell off my chair on that one..

Ive been listening to JV since the mid 90's. So I get the humor. If I were you guys, I would give him a chance.

[krishnancc]

I just listened to the audio that was posted (I missed the show on JVsWorld.com). I dont get why everyone is up in arms about it?

"Putting your d*ck in a sock.. Sticking it in between your mattress.. And pounding to Princess Leigha.." OMG I fell off my chair on that one..

Ive been listening to JV since the mid 90's. So I get the humor. If I were you guys, I would give him a chance.

Im sorry that you had to listen to him for that long ...

[peep]

I just listened to the audio that was posted (I missed the show on JVsWorld.com). I dont get why everyone is up in arms about it?

"Putting your d*ck in a sock.. Sticking it in between your mattress.. And pounding to Princess Leigha.." OMG I fell off my chair on that one..

Ive been listening to JV since the mid 90's. So I get the humor. If I were you guys, I would give him a chance.


Why is it that so many have decided that we don't care for him because we don't get "it".
It's not brain surgery he's performing. He's a shock jock, his reason for being is to start stuff. To quickly make whatever point he wants then make up random horrible things, that a person can either ignore and answer his point(then its funny because they are taking it), or argue about the name calling(then its funny because it turns into to 4year olds back and forth, and he becomes some hero with the loyal for winning the abandoned point).

Whatever his show ends up being he can't ever play nice with the community because he will loose his cred.

[laalex98]

I did like the sow a lot! I agree with him and I know the next show ill be better!

I like this guy and I hate Corporate greed like him etc....

I'll keep watching it :D

[eastbayj]

Im sorry that you had to listen to him for that long ...

Apparently your a person who gets offended about internet shows then huh?

[peppersghost]

The show was good, but not good for something on Revision3. I can watch thousands of shows on youtube just like this show, maybe even better. Obviously his personallity is kind of douchy, especially if you listened to his half hour rant about Revision3 fans, I understand if you don't like the show just because of the host. JV says he is the guy that sticks up for the little guys even though he's talking shit based on common racism and steriotypes. He sounds like he has a lot of problems and can't get over that a few people on the internet don't like his show. I haven't read anyone talk shit on him and he calls people on Revision3 Star Trek nerds or whatever. I hate Star Wars and Star Trek and I am a huge fan of Revision3. It's disappointing that this guy prejudges all the people on the internet that don't like his show just because they choose not to watch it.

[krishnancc]

The show was good, but not good for something on Revision3. I can watch thousands of shows on youtube just like this show, maybe even better. Obviously his personallity is kind of douchy, especially if you listened to his half hour rant about Revision3 fans, I understand if you don't like the show just because of the host. JV says he is the guy that sticks up for the little guys even though he's talking shit based on common racism and steriotypes. He sounds like he has a lot of problems and can't get over that a few people on the internet don't like his show. I haven't read anyone talk shit on him and he calls people on Revision3 Star Trek nerds or whatever. I hate Star Wars and Star Trek and I am a huge fan of Revision3. It's disappointing that this guy prejudges all the people on the internet that don't like his show just because they choose not to watch it.

in the rant he claims to be one of us because he was a nerd when he was a kid, but what seems to have happened is now he is the bully.

[nesto37]

in the rant he claims to be one of us because he was a nerd when he was a kid, but what seems to have happened is now he is the bully.

i think he ran in to rev3 forum bullies, and the whole rev3 got a response.

[phatlip]

i think he ran in to rev3 forum bullies, and the whole rev3 got a response.

Saying you don't like a show makes you a bully huh?

[nesto37]

Saying you don't like a show makes you a bully huh?

I think there was a bunch of people who went way over board that just saying i don't like the show. they went on attack mode and got really emotional about the direction of rev3. I all got un loaded on the first day of his show. sucks.

there was very little real constructive feed back. so his response, was non constructive.

[dirtyhat]

i think he ran in to rev3 forum bullies, and the whole rev3 got a response.

I didn't read the whole thread (it's way too dam long (thats what she said)) so I could be wrong, But I am gonna have to agree with phatty. There was only one side doing the "bullying", and the other side was an opinion about the new show on Rev3.

[speed]

I'll try to be a constructive as possible about my complaints:
1. The graphics in are annoying and add nothing.
2. There's no point in censoring it, this isn't the kind of show that benefits from "are you *bleep*ing kidding me" rather than "are you fucking kidding me".
3. A lot of his arguments simply are idiotic (more on that later).
4. Sound quality was terrible, he needs a much better mic, and should consider doing the video with something other than a webcam.
5. He needs to tone down the "personality" (if you can call it that). From the second he started talking, he just annoyed me and made me not want to watch the whole thing. I had to force myself to do it (I want to be fair with my critique).
6. The fake interview where he convinced the guy to say "it's a huge slap in the face" just wasn't funny.
7. The "production values" overall just seemed shoddy.

As for his arguments:
1. If the world "ain't so free anymore", how about you do something other than bitch about it in a title sequence that almost feels like they tried to do a ghetto version of "Real Time with Bill Maher" (they even have his music)
2. Poor people have never been capable of obtaining the stuff celebrities have, why is it suddenly tasteless now, just because there's more poor people, than it was back when it first started.
3. If people were really that offended, they would stop watching and possibly complain to MTV and its sponsors, ratings would plummet, the show would be canceled.
4. The world "ain't so free anymore" and you're cynical from "all the things that [you] see", so your first target is MTV?
5. "Fuck you, eat shit and die" hardly seems like a decent argument for anything.
6. The point of Cribs isn't to show off houses that the viewers could one day live in, it's to show off the "cribs" (get it?) of their favorite celebrities. It's a voyeurism thing, not a "I'm in the market for a new house, should I go Bel Air or private island?" thing.
7. The show is doing well, so why does that mean the MTV executive is high for continuing it?

Overall, the show was just hard to watch, I'll give episode 2 another shot, but my expectations are low. I think the two main issues are: the host has a REALLY annoying personality and it just wasn't logically how upset he was getting over the show. There was some strange disconnect between his opening credits rant and the show itself.

[phatlip]

I think there was a bunch of people who went way over board that just saying i don't like the show. they went on attack mode and got really emotional about the direction of rev3. I all got un loaded on the first day of his show. sucks.

there was very little real constructive feed back. so his response, was non constructive.

So, that warrants going on a 40 minute tirade calling people dicks, bitches, ****ots etc. how?

This is a discussion board. So what if someone doesn't like the direction Revision3 is going? You talk about it, and hopefully someone pays attention and makes changes.

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there were a few dicks. But people not liking your show or the direction the company is going is no reason to act how he did.

Hell, his first episode was ALL ABOUT hating a show and the network it's on. Quite the double standard.

[eminemdrdre00]

So, that warrants going on a 40 minute tirade calling people dicks, bitches, ****ots etc. how?

This is a discussion board. So what if someone doesn't like the direction Revision3 is going? You talk about it, and hopefully someone pays attention and makes changes.

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there were a few dicks. But people not liking your show or the direction the company is going is no reason to act how he did.

Hell, his first episode was ALL ABOUT hating a show and the network it's on. Quite the double standard.
QFT! Thats what I've been saying over and over too! His whole show was about a network/show he hated! And he told them to "eat shit and die" repeatedly. He can give it but cant take it!

Jim Louderback even confirmed tonight that JV asked that this whole section of the forum be locked down because he didnt like the negative response. Thankfully, Jim said he would not shut down the forum.

[nesto37]

I'll try to be a constructive as possible about my complaints:
1. The graphics in are annoying and add nothing.
2. There's no point in censoring it, this isn't the kind of show that benefits from "are you *bleep*ing kidding me" rather than "are you fucking kidding me".
3. A lot of his arguments simply are idiotic (more on that later).
4. Sound quality was terrible, he needs a much better mic, and should consider doing the video with something other than a webcam.
5. He needs to tone down the "personality" (if you can call it that). From the second he started talking, he just annoyed me and made me not want to watch the whole thing. I had to force myself to do it (I want to be fair with my critique).
6. The fake interview where he convinced the guy to say "it's a huge slap in the face" just wasn't funny.
7. The "production values" overall just seemed shoddy.

As for his arguments:
1. If the world "ain't so free anymore", how about you do something other than bitch about it in a title sequence that almost feels like they tried to do a ghetto version of "Real Time with Bill Maher" (they even have his music)
2. Poor people have never been capable of obtaining the stuff celebrities have, why is it suddenly tasteless now, just because there's more poor people, than it was back when it first started.
3. If people were really that offended, they would stop watching and possibly complain to MTV and its sponsors, ratings would plummet, the show would be canceled.
4. The world "ain't so free anymore" and you're cynical from "all the things that [you] see", so your first target is MTV?
5. "Fuck you, eat shit and die" hardly seems like a decent argument for anything.
6. The point of Cribs isn't to show off houses that the viewers could one day live in, it's to show off the "cribs" (get it?) of their favorite celebrities. It's a voyeurism thing, not a "I'm in the market for a new house, should I go Bel Air or private island?" thing.
7. The show is doing well, so why does that mean the MTV executive is high for continuing it?

Overall, the show was just hard to watch, I'll give episode 2 another shot, but my expectations are low. I think the two main issues are: the host has a REALLY annoying personality and it just wasn't logically how upset he was getting over the show. There was some strange disconnect between his opening credits rant and the show itself.

I think what you wrote is right on, I agree with a lot of it. His reaction wasn't to that kind of feedback. I think his show it made for people to challenge his argument. It will create a great discussion about ...Whatever. I think there are a lot better topics to cover.

[nesto37]

So, that warrants going on a 40 minute tirade calling people dicks, bitches, ****ots etc. how?

This is a discussion board. So what if someone doesn't like the direction Revision3 is going? You talk about it, and hopefully someone pays attention and makes changes.

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there were a few dicks. But people not liking your show or the direction the company is going is no reason to act how he did.

Hell, his first episode was ALL ABOUT hating a show and the network it's on. Quite the double standard.

I think it’s one way to respond. Maybe not the best to make rev3 users love you. But it’s a response that fits with the vibe of his show. You come at him, he will come back. In his response were a lot of jokes. People have always hated his shows. And he's always responded. This isn't new to him, it new to the rev3 community. It sounds like in the past, the talent has held hands, spoke with caution, and did their best not to upset anyone. That’s not his style. He’s not going to change.

I don't think he wanted to offend so many people. So I’m curious how he will respond to that. It’s hard though...cuz the dicks who attacked him deserve to get it right back. And his audio response was directed toward those people. The rest of this community connected to those attacks and decided it was toward them too. So how do you stand up for yourself, while connecting to the broader base?

I think he had to be aggressive, he had to attack. This dude loves drama!

[dirtyhat]

So, that warrants going on a 40 minute tirade calling people dicks, bitches, ****ots etc. how?

People email me about my show, suggesting "you should stop doing this, you suck" "I hope you guys f**king die" and other vulgarities that I don't feel like repeating.

...But have I ever confronted anybody about it? Have I ever felt it justified calling other people obscenities? ...NEVER! usually if I have time I send them a "thanks, for at least giving it a try" letter. Our show isn't vulgar but we do have "mature content". Hell I can honestly admit my show is not the greatest either. The editing sucks, The audio sucks sometimes, The content is slow at times and it's very unstructured. But I don't do it as my profession, it's my hobby. I don't have a huge following like JV I guess, but the 100 or so "regulars" I have, I do it for them... who cares what the "haters" have to say.

...There are better ways of handling those kinds of situations and JV handled it all wrong, that's just my opinion.

[nesto37]

People email me about my show, suggesting "you should stop doing this, you suck" "I hope you guys f**king die" and other vulgarities that I don't feel like repeating.

...But have I ever confronted anybody about it? Have I ever felt it justified calling other people obscenities? ...NEVER! usually if I have time I send them a "thanks, for at least giving it a try" letter. Our show isn't vulgar but we do have "mature content". Hell I can honestly admit my show is not the greatest either. The editing sucks, The audio sucks sometimes, The content is slow at times and it's very unstructured. But I don't do it as my profession, it's my hobby. I don't have a huge following like JV I guess, but the 100 or so "regulars" I have, I do it for them... who cares what the "haters" have to say.

...There are better ways of handling those kinds of situations and JV handled it all wrong, that's just my opinion.

I think I would have gone your rout too. But I don't think his way was way wrong. As someone who has followed his work, I thought 99% of what he said was hilarious!!!!!! And he said it over and over again, the people who follow him expected him to flip out. So in a lot of ways, his response was the same as yours, it was for his "regulars"

What’s your show? I would like to check it out.

[phatlip]

I think I would have gone your rout too. But I don't think his way was way wrong. As someone who has followed his work, I thought 99% of what he said was hilarious!!!!!! And he said it over and over again, the people who follow him expected him to flip out. So in a lot of ways, his response was the same as yours, it was for his "regulars"

What’s your show? I would like to check it out.

You don't think it was wrong? Nothing good came of how he handled it.

[dirtyhat]

I think I would have gone your rout too. But I don't think his way was way wrong. As someone who has followed his work, I thought 99% of what he said was hilarious!!!!!! And he said it over and over again, the people who follow him expected him to flip out. So in a lot of ways, his response was the same as yours, it was for his "regulars"

What’s your show? I would like to check it out.

I'll give you that since I don't follow him, in fact never heard of him before the other day.

My show is called "Never Ending Rant" (view my sig for links) which is ironic because it has the same basic premise of JV's show but completely different deliveries in my opinion. but not necessarily saying one delivery is better than the other. Anyways, basically we just "rant" about anything in our life or that are suggested from viewers, we used to do a little review about media ie. movies, music, TV, or comics we were into that week but we kept going to long with that so we might be cutting it out. I'll be straight forward with you and anyone else... don't expect high production value. I do all the encoding/editing myself and have no prior experience with it so... it's far from professional. I would like to put more time into but I work and go to school right now so, for now this is just an extremely fun hobby. It's not scripted in anyway we just basically BS. If you do check it out make sure to leave feedback/criticism... good or bad, I promise i won't lash out. ;) lol jk

***EDIT***
oh and I wanted to add in... part of the reason I give new shows a few episodes before passing judgement is for this reason... If someone watched the pilot, or any singular episode for that matter, of my show they wouldn't get a good idea of what we were all about... In fact I would hate someone judging it solely off our pilot... cause it sucked lol. we were tired of delaying and just set up a camera in the room and went for it. So I give other shows/people the benefit of the doubt, as well.

[nesto37]

I'll give you that since I don't follow him, in fact never heard of him before the other day.

My show is called "Never Ending Rant" (view my sig for links) which is ironic because it has the same basic premise of JV's show but completely different deliveries in my opinion. but not necessarily saying one delivery is better than the other. Anyways, basically we just "rant" about anything in our life or that are suggested from viewers, we used to do a little review about media ie. movies, music, TV, or comics we were into that week but we kept going to long with that so we might be cutting it out. I'll be straight forward with you and anyone else... don't expect high production value. I do all the encoding/editing myself and have no prior experience with it so... it's far from professional. I would like to put more time into but I work and go to school right now so, for now this is just an extremely fun hobby. It's not scripted in anyway we just basically BS. If you do check it out make sure to leave feedback/criticism... good or bad, I promise i won't lash out. ;) lol jk

***EDIT***
oh and I wanted to add in... part of the reason I give new shows a few episodes before passing judgement is for this reason... If someone watched the pilot, or any singular episode for that matter, of my show they wouldn't get a good idea of what we were all about... In fact I would hate someone judging it solely off our pilot... cause it sucked lol. we were tired of delaying and just set up a camera in the room and went for it. So I give other shows/people the benefit of the doubt.

right on bro, i respect what your trying to do with you show. Working and going to school is hard man. I will for sure to check it out.

[nesto37]

You don't think it was wrong? Nothing good came of how he handled it.

I feel like some good has come out of it. Looks like the whole rev3 community is talking about him and his show. No matter what people say, everyone who commented will check out episode 2,3,4,and 5. If a show causes this much of a scene you have to keep checking it out. Although people have commented that "this isn't radio, his act won't work here” they are wrong so far. Its working, people are listening, watching, reading.

Only time will tell if the end result is an established show. So no one can say at this point that nothing good will come from this. I'm checking out the other rev3 shows. I know a lot of the audience he brought to this site is doing the same. That’s good right?

The ball is for sure in his court. I have no idea how he's going to respond from here on out. But I like everyone else will stick around to watch, read, and listen.

[dirtyhat]

right on bro, i respect what your trying to do with you show. I will for sure to check it out.
Thanks, we appreciate it...
Working and going to school is hard man.
Tell me about it... I'm freakin exhausted, I feel like a zombie sometimes lol

[chuckles]

I feel like some good has come out of it. Looks like the whole rev3 community is talking about him and his show. No matter what people say, everyone who commented will check out episode 2,3,4,and 5. If a show causes this much of a scene you have to keep checking it out. Although people have commented that "this isn't radio, his act won't work here” they are wrong so far. Its working, people are listening, watching, reading.

Only time will tell if the end result is an established show. So no one can say at this point that nothing good will come from this. I'm checking out the other rev3 shows. I know a lot of the audience he brought to this site is doing the same. That’s good right?

The ball is for sure in his court. I have no idea how he's going to respond from here on out. But I like everyone else will stick around to watch, read, and listen.

You are wise beyond your ears. :)

-chuckles-

[phatlip]

I feel like some good has come out of it. Looks like the whole rev3 community is talking about him and his show. No matter what people say, everyone who commented will check out episode 2,3,4,and 5. If a show causes this much of a scene you have to keep checking it out. Although people have commented that "this isn't radio, his act won't work here” they are wrong so far. Its working, people are listening, watching, reading.

Only time will tell if the end result is an established show. So no one can say at this point that nothing good will come from this. I'm checking out the other rev3 shows. I know a lot of the audience he brought to this site is doing the same. That’s good right?

The ball is for sure in his court. I have no idea how he's going to respond from here on out. But I like everyone else will stick around to watch, read, and listen.

To date, no good has came of this. Who care's if everyone is talking about him? A lot of people talked about the shit Bush did as president too. People still hated his guts and didn't support him.

Even if people do watch the next couple of episodes, they're not likely to continue. Unless of course he creates an entire show about bashing Revision3's customers. Good luck getting sponsors for that show. I guess if he continues using the word ****ot, the Westbro Baptist Church is a possible sponsor.

Also, his "shock jock" antics didn't take place on the show anyway. So there's nothing to see in the show really. People are more likely going to read his Twitter than watch his show IMO.

Time well tell, but to date- no good has come of this.

[phatlip]

The difference between JV and Stern:

Stern is actually supported by his listeners. I highly doubt things would have worked out well for him if he attacked all of his new listeners on Sirius on his first day.

The shock jock thing works if you're attacking other people, not your entire audience. And yeah, I realize he has fans on his site, but that doesn't seem to be the case here.

[phatlip]

It's pointless debating this anymore though. Revision3 pretty much established they don't care about their audience, so that's something they'll have to live with.

I'm planning on contacting their sponsors this weekend along with their venture capitalist. I'm going to ask how they feel about investing in hate. I look forward to hearing from Greylock Partners.

[nesto37]

To date, no good has came of this. Who care's if everyone is talking about him? A lot of people talked about the shit Bush did as president too. People still hated his guts and didn't support him.

Even if people do watch the next couple of episodes, they're not likely to continue. Unless of course he creates an entire show about bashing Revision3's customers. Good luck getting sponsors for that show. I guess if he continues using the word ****ot, the Westbro Baptist Church is a possible sponsor.

Also, his "shock jock" antics didn't take place on the show anyway. So there's nothing to see in the show really. People are more likely going to read his Twitter than watch his show IMO.

Time well tell, but to date- no good has come of this.

Hate to get off subject but...in 2004 I almost voted for bush. My whole thinking was...
Kerry was a lameass. He didn't inspire me, and didn't inspire anyone. But I thought and told a lot of people around me. 4 more years of bush might be enough for us to get someone special. Someone who can really turn this nation around. Our country would be so jacked up at that point, someone can step in to create real change.

I swear on my everything ( realize that means nothing to you) My friends looked at me like I was crazy.

I didn't end up voting for bush, pretty much cuz I thought I might go to hell. But the end result was hope.

I have a question to help get back on topic. Why isn't it enough for you to just ignore the show? Leave it alone. Don’t watch it, don't write about it, and don’t read about it. Let those who want to watch, watch. At this point, you and so many others seem intent on making sure it doesn't get a chance?

[phatlip]

I have a question to help get back on topic. Why isn't it enough for you to just ignore the show? Leave it alone. Don’t watch it, don't write about it, and don’t read about it. Let those who want to watch, watch. At this point, you and so many others seem intent on making sure it doesn't get a chance?

The show isn't my problem. Did I like it? No. I actually said that a while ago in this thread.

http://revision3.com/forum/showpost.php?p=516481&postcount=109

My problem is with the comments he made. The ****ot comment in particular.

[nesto37]

The show isn't my problem. Did I like it? No. I actually said that a while ago in this thread.

http://revision3.com/forum/showpost.php?p=516481&postcount=109

My problem is with the comments he made. The ****ot comment in particular.

So, how do you get past the fact that he doesn't hate gay people? I understand that he used a term the you are uncomfortable with and has been used as a form of hate, but in this case it wasn't hate speech because the speaker doesn't have hate for that minority group. He said something that, if not understood, could be taken the wrong way. But he said immediately after that it wasn't directed toward that minority group.

I said this somewhere else, but he has a morning show in San Francisco. He did so for many years.

You know a few years ago, JV dedicated a whole week of his morning show (the most popular in the bay area) to a transgender teen who was killed because some asswholes decided they didn't like how she was living her. He had the parents on, he had the newspapers involved. He was making more noise about it than the local news! He used thousands of dollars worth of air time to get people’s attention. To let people know what happen and to get some support for the friends and family of the victim.
But, people always write letters. Someone is always offended.

Sorry but my point is, he used a term that in the past has been used toward the gay community. His comment wasn't toward the gay community. It was used as social slag for being a punk, bitch, asswhole etc...Etc... But now we are repeating what everyone else has already said. My bad for that.

[jackie13]

i'm so glad that nesto37 is able to convey what, i'm sure, most of jvs fans feel in a kinder more constructive way...

if he could only hear me yelling amen after what he says...

[krishnancc]

So, how do you get past the fact that he doesn't hate gay people? I understand that he used a term the you are uncomfortable with and has been used as a form of hate, but in this case it wasn't hate speech because the speaker doesn't have hate for that minority group. He said something that, if not understood, could be taken the wrong way. But he said immediately after that it wasn't directed toward that minority group.

I said this somewhere else, but he has a morning show in San Francisco. He did so for many years.

You know a few years ago, JV dedicated a whole week of his morning show (the most popular in the bay area) to a transgender teen who was killed because some asswholes decided they didn't like how she was living her. He had the parents on, he had the newspapers involved. He was making more noise about it than the local news! He used thousands of dollars worth of air time to get people’s attention. To let people know what happen and to get some support for the friends and family of the victim.
But, people always write letters. Someone is always offended.

Sorry but my point is, he used a term that in the past has been used toward the gay community. His comment wasn't toward the gay community. It was used as social slag for being a punk, bitch, asswhole etc...Etc... But now we are repeating what everyone else has already said. My bad for that.

clearly he is 2 faced then because he threw around **got like he was saying kitten. Like i said before just because its the internet doesn't make it ok.

I don't know where he was raised the or company he keeps but it sounds like people who throw around "social slang" are not people i want to associate with.

[phatlip]

So, how do you get past the fact that he doesn't hate gay people? I understand that he used a term the you are uncomfortable with and has been used as a form of hate, but in this case it wasn't hate speech because the speaker doesn't have hate for that minority group. He said something that, if not understood, could be taken the wrong way. But he said immediately after that it wasn't directed toward that minority group.

I said this somewhere else, but he has a morning show in San Francisco. He did so for many years.

You know a few years ago, JV dedicated a whole week of his morning show (the most popular in the bay area) to a transgender teen who was killed because some asswholes decided they didn't like how she was living her. He had the parents on, he had the newspapers involved. He was making more noise about it than the local news! He used thousands of dollars worth of air time to get people’s attention. To let people know what happen and to get some support for the friends and family of the victim.
But, people always write letters. Someone is always offended.

Sorry but my point is, he used a term that in the past has been used toward the gay community. His comment wasn't toward the gay community. It was used as social slag for being a punk, bitch, asswhole etc...Etc... But now we are repeating what everyone else has already said. My bad for that.

Hate speech is language used to degrade a race, orientation, sex etc. The word ****ot does just that. It's hate speech. It doesn't matter if he hates them or not. His comment was degrading to homosexuals. To be honest with you, I don't exactly believe he doesn't hate homosexuals. He's giving me every reason to think he does by not apologizing.

Good for him, for doing that. It's irrelevant to what we're discussing though. The term ****ot degrades homosexuals and by definition- that's hate speech. There are an overwhelming amount of people here that agree. Some who ARE homosexual.

[phatlip]

Yeah the "social slang" argument is bull shit. This punk should take a trip to Oakland and use some "social slang" about minorities in a run down neighborhood. Let's see how tough "JV" is then.

[jackie13]

Hate speech is language used to degrade a race, orientation, sex etc. The word ****ot does just that. It's hate speech. It doesn't matter if he hates them or not. His comment was degrading to homosexuals. To be honest with you, I don't exactly believe he doesn't hate homosexuals. He's giving me every reason to think he does by not apologizing.

Good for him, for doing that. It's irrelevant to what we're discussing though. The term ****ot degrades homosexuals and by definition- that's hate speech. There are an overwhelming amount of people here that agree. Some who ARE homosexual.

the word ****ot does NOT equal hate speech... it does matter if he hates them or not...

hate speech is defined as speech INTENDED TO FOSTER HATRED against individuals or groups based on race, religion, gender, sexual preference, place of national origin, or other improper classification.

dont assume that every gay person takes that offensively... im gay, i dont think his words are hateful...

[phatlip]

the word ****ot does NOT equal hate speech... it does matter if he hates them or not...

hate speech is defined as speech INTENDED TO FOSTER HATRED against individuals or groups based on race, religion, gender, sexual preference, place of national origin, or other improper classification.

dont assume that every gay person takes that offensively... im gay, i dont think his words are hateful...

Hate speech- speech that attacks a person or group on the basis of race, religion, gender, or sexual orientation.

Source: Websters College Dictionary (pg 595)

[jackie13]

Hate speech- speech that attacks a person or group on the basis of race, religion, gender, or sexual orientation.

Source: Websters College Dictionary (pg 595)

no... he was not attacking people who choose to be with people of their own sex when using the word ****ot... he was using it as a slang term... honestly, how old is that dictionary?

[phatlip]

no... he was not attacking people who choose to be with people of their own sex when using the word ****ot... he was using it as a slang term... honestly, how old is that dictionary?

A slang term for what? The word ****ot is an attack used towards gay people.

It's a new dictionary.

[jackie13]

A slang term for what? The word ****ot is an attack used towards gay people.

It's a new dictionary.

well, me and my bisexual australian gf use that word for cigarettes... but maybe thats just an australian thing...

[phatlip]

well, me and my bisexual australian gf use that word for cigarettes... but maybe thats just an australian thing...

So he called us cigarettes is what you're saying.

[jackie13]

So he called us cigarettes is what you're saying.

yes... EXACTLY... you got it... he called you a cigarette who sleeps in a racecar bed and has a mom with a weeener...

can someone photoshop that for me... i think it would really be funny...

[phatlip]

yes... EXACTLY... you got it... he called you a cigarette who sleeps in a racecar bed and has a mom with a weeener...

can someone photoshop that for me... i think it would really be funny...

Then why did he clarify using the word queer? Is queer a cigarette too?

PLEASE.

[xibalba]

maybe he was using a different meanig of the word.

1 a: worthless, counterfeit <queer money> b: questionable, suspicious2 a: differing in some odd way from what is usual or normal b (1): eccentric, unconventional (2): mildly insane : touched c: absorbed or interested to an extreme or unreasonable degree : obsessed d (1)often disparaging : homosexual (2)sometimes offensive : gay 4b3: not quite well

[phatlip]

maybe he was using a different meanig of the word.

1 a: worthless, counterfeit <queer money> b: questionable, suspicious2 a: differing in some odd way from what is usual or normal b (1): eccentric, unconventional (2): mildly insane : touched c: absorbed or interested to an extreme or unreasonable degree : obsessed d (1)often disparaging : homosexual (2)sometimes offensive : gay 4b3: not quite well

But wait, I thought we established the context of ****ot was him calling us cigarettes. For that to be true, queer would have to be another word for cigarettes.

So according to your definition, the only thing the two words has in common is in reference to homosexuals.

So you proved the point I made in saying it was directed towards homosexuals.

[xibalba]

I thought fag was the slang term for cigarette not ****ot. So that sorta defeats the argument to doesn't it.

[phatlip]

I thought fag was the slang term for cigarette not ****ot. So that sorta defeats the argument to doesn't it.

Yeah, pretty much.

[ha1f]

Wow, that was anti-climactic. You guys suck.

[krishnancc]

well, me and my bisexual australian gf use that word for cigarettes... but maybe thats just an australian thing...

now your just making stuff up .....:rolleyes:

[jackie13]

now your just making stuff up .....:rolleyes:

ok. ok... she isnt my gf anymore... she dumped me... but thats a whole other story...

[krishnancc]

ok. ok... she isnt my gf anymore... she dumped me... but thats a whole other story...

:rolleyes:

[rabidbadger]

yeah, I was raised in aussie, and "fag" was THE word for cigarette, they had other derogatory terms for gays, though.

[jackie13]

yeah, I was raised in aussie, and "fag" was THE word for cigarette, they had other derogatory terms for gays, though.

another thing i loved was when she would say, "im havin heaps of fun"... is heaps an aussie word too?

[rabidbadger]

No just means "lots of" Like a lot of things in a pile, ie: heap.

Now if she said "Im having humps of fun" then you shoulda never left her. ;)

[jackie13]

No just means "lots of" Like a lot of things in a pile, ie: heap.

Now if she said "Im having humps of fun" then you shoulda never left her. ;)

lol... "humps of fun"... she did tell me that many of the people in australia are very open about sex and swinging both ways (duh, shes bisexual)... she said, "my boyfriend is everyones boyfriend, and thats ok... theres no anger or jealousy..."

[p0int]

Did anyone listen all through the 30min of rant that JV said, becase he said more then just f#*got, and i think that if you was offended just by that, you where not rly hearing it, i didnt through the show was bad, but it should be change a littel bit like the put sound over the swearing shold be removed and that, but i feel for the guy i almost feels sorry for him becase he wasnt rant on the whole Rev3 community it was just the people that didnt have any constructive to say and just was swearing on his show and him and say rev3 are d*mba$$ for letting this guy in.
But i gonne give him a chane and watch his secend ep, i am already exiting to see it after all this.
But we must wait and see how the show evolve, now godnight!

(Sorry for my english, hope you get it!)

[quantumblink]

lol... "humps of fun"... she did tell me that many of the people in australia are very open about sex and swinging both ways (duh, shes bisexual)... she said, "my boyfriend is everyones boyfriend, and thats ok... theres no anger or jealousy..."

So now CB is a bisexual Australian woman? I'm sure CB would love to hear that.

[jackie13]

So now CB is a bisexual Australian woman? I'm sure CB would love to hear that.

maybe, if you took the time to listen to our show, then you wouldve known what i was talking about... i said exgirlfriend damnit! im straight now... straight lovin the caaaack...

[krishnancc]

maybe, if you took the time to listen to our show, then you wouldve known what i was talking about... i said exgirlfriend damnit! im straight now... straight lovin the caaaack...

Are all of JVs followers liars and trolls?

[jackie13]

Are all of JVs followers liars and trolls?

how the hell am i a liar or a troll?

[quantumblink]

Are all of JVs followers liars and trolls?

Bitter much?

When did she leave you?

[mr-underachiever]

I'm listening to JV's rant right now, and I gotta say... you guys kinda had it coming. Some of the people on this board are acting like little bitches right now.

[guytheninja]

I'm listening to JV's rant right now, and I gotta say... you guys kinda had it coming. Some of the people on this board are acting like little bitches right now.

Yea, its not all lies man. I especially agreed with the part about "Revision3 is not your church".

"I've lost faith in you Revision3!!!" :D.



Bitter much?

When did she leave you?



Hilarious!

[tokenuser]

lol... "humps of fun"... she did tell me that many of the people in australia are very open about sex and swinging both ways (duh, shes bisexual)... she said, "my boyfriend is everyones boyfriend, and thats ok... theres no anger or jealousy..."<Token puts hand up>

Ummm. Yeah, we are pretty open about discussing sex, and sexual topics in general ... and I had a number of openly (and not so openly) gay friends of both gender (no, not trannies ...) but the swinging both was part is a bit of a stretch.

Thats like generalising and saying everyone living in the south are BBQ pork eating, watermelon lovin', banjo pla... crap.

Actually, none of my gay friends were bi (to the best of my knowledge).

[krishnancc]

Bitter much?

When did she leave you?

just sick of her comments that's all .... :rolleyes:

[quantumblink]

just sick of her comments that's all .... :rolleyes:

How does one generalize about you when one is sick of your comments?

Please do assist.

[krishnancc]

How does one generalize about you when one is sick of your comments?

Please do assist.

did you know cows are awesome?

[rabidbadger]

I like turtles

[quantumblink]

did you know cows are awesome?

Awesome to eat.

[miyamotofreak]

So I watched, and I have to say, if you can still afford cable TV then why the fuck would you care?

[mikeyhustle]

<Token puts hand up>

Ummm. Yeah, Im pretty open about discussing butt sex, and sexual topics in general ... and I had a number of openly (and not so openly) gay relationships of both gender (sometimes trannies ...)

Actually, none of my boyfriends were bi (to the best of my knowledge).

hmmmm.... Thats interesting.

[digital69]

great job JV! one of the best fucking podcasts out there!

To the people who hated it... well stop crying for one and then stop watching.

No one is forcing anyone to watch this show. If you are offended by the f bomb or eat shit and die then well stop watching it. To complain about it makes you sound like a moron.

Not everyone is going to like every show but most people stop watching if it wasn't for them. To cry about it to Rev3 shows how much of a baby you guys are. Real adults with no metal issues would blow it off and go on with there life.

[cabster21]

Well I liked it, nice cheeky little show. I only spotted it today, and had no idea all this was going on. I heared the audio of him slating some of the rev3 members, I found it funny "jump out of your little race car bed" But I guess if you felt it was directed at you then fair enough.

Anyway, I hope it sticks around for a while and we can see where it goes.

[mikeyhustle]

I heard the audio of him slating some of the rev3 members, I found it funny "jump out of your little race car bed" But I guess if you felt it was directed at you then fair enough.

Maybe thats why I thought it was totally hilarious.. But others didnt. The race car bed line had my gasping for air I laughed so hard.

[amon91]

Despite my previous comment, I thought a bit and decided to give it another chance. The show after all has a great potential and its short format is pretty good. I'd turn down the ranting a little bit, but other than that it's pretty watchable, and it'll only get better.

[rabidbadger]

Maybe thats why I thought it was totally hilarious.. But others didnt. The race car bed line had my gasping for air I laughed so hard.

I'll admit, he had some funny lines in the beginning, even if they were directed at this community, (the one that any new host here should be nurturing, not alienating) but he really jumped the shark and took it too far half way through.

[arcticfox]

JV is an idiot and this sort of podcast doesnt belong on Revision 3.

[mikeyhustle]

JV is an idiot and this sort of podcast doesnt belong on Revision 3.

Dont hold back. Tell us how you really feel.

[lummy_al]

Sorry guys I don't like this show.

I agree with the sentiment, but the way it's put forward is... I'm not sure how to describe what I have a problem with exactly.

I mean Diggnation (which I love) does similar things, they rant about a topic they feel passionate about. I love that though. I think it's the "Shock Jock" styling that cheapens this show.

The 'crazy' sound effects and video, while your talking about how terribly MTV treats people loosing their houses, that feels similarly distasteful.

Cribs has always been showing really rich people's houses to people getting thrown out of theirs. What's changed except that there are more now. The show has either always been a problem, glorifying greed, or it never has been. Pick one.

Mostly I like a balanced argument which is why I only watch the BBC for news and don't listen to the aforementioned "Shock Jocks".

Oh dear, I'm ranting as well.

[tokenuser]

hmmmm.... Thats interesting.Yeah ... and while you might think that it is funny to "quote" someone by editing what they said, I find it kinda offensive ... and unlike you, I have control of the ban hammer.

See you next week.

[EDIT] Actually, on thinking about this. I have to say that the gay friends I have are actually funny and articulate ... and don't need to try 5th grade locker room humour to fit in. Make that two weeks.

[mediaright]

Wow. I watched his first episode, thought it was meh. I was going to give it another chance after another few eps. After hearing his radio rant, though,...just no. I don't have the time or inclination to watch so-called comedy and opinion from a guy who stereotypes and insults who I am.

Even if some of the guys here took the feedback a bit too far, that's no reason for him to demonize us as an entire group.

[rottnkorpse]

I agree the cribs show is incredible garbage...but not because of the economy...it was always garbage.