The Wonders Of LINUX! (general thread)

[kzap]

Genirel thread for anything as people seemed to be using the 'Linux is dead' thread as that and I don't think that shows Linux in a good light to anyone browsing the forum
So as not to bring up the "Linux is Dead" threadname, I'm going to post a response here.

computoman, when i update/remove packages in Crunchbang using synaptic, I'm not removing them from the repos, rather I'm uninstalling the app/whatever to save disk space and resources.

Now, Crunchbang used OpenBox, which like FluxBox and BlackBox uses a right-click menu tree system to access apps and whatnot. When I uninstall apps (and install others for that matter), the removed apps still come up in the menu and freshly installed ones do not get added.

I'm new to OpenBox so I'm not sure if it's in a config file or anything, hopefully I can figure out what's going on with it.I got that too when I used Fluxbuntu (on my PC and my brothers) you might want to check our LXDE it's a desktop environment that is just as light weight as Fluxbox and (I think anyway) much more user friendly and powerful you can customize the interface easy to make it look just like Gnome, XFCE or KDE (without the shiny of course).
Oh and in LXDE there is a menu editor just like Gnome.

[computoman]

I would look at the configuration files in X11 or thereabouts and the home directory. Sometimes things get fixed in /etc/skel, X11, or not in the home directory or vice versa. This is especially true if manual changes to the menus were made or you have multiple desktops. For that matter I have seen it many a time on mswindows and osx boxes when I was an admin. I would not get alarmed over it. Nothing a little editing can not fix.

[tromoly]

I would look at the configuration files in X11 or thereabouts and the home directory. Sometimes things get fixed in /etc/skel, X11, or not in the home directory or vice versa. This is especially true if manual changes to the menus were made or you have multiple desktops. For that matter I have seen it many a time on mswindows and osx boxes when I was an admin. I would not get alarmed over it. Nothing a little editing can not fix.

Hmm, you may be on to something with X11, I was wondering if it was something in a config file but haven't researched it yet, I'll have to look into it.

Other than that issue, I'm liking crunchbang, it has the ease of package management that Ubuntu has, while the GUI runs even lighter than XFCE on Xubuntu.

Only other issue I'm having is an initramfs error on boot, sadly I got that with Xubuntu 8.10+ and Ubuntu 8.10+, it boots after typing "exit" but I haven't got a permanent solution working. Oh well, project for next week after finals.

[computoman]

Since ubuntu and crunchbang are essentially debian, you might look on the debian websites and ubuntu websites to see if their is a fix. of course a good old fashion web search would not hurt either.

[tromoly]

Since ubuntu and crunchbang are essentially debian, you might look on the debian websites and ubuntu websites to see if their is a fix. of course a good old fashion web search would not hurt either.

Yeah, I was looking for fixes the other night and found a couple potential ones on Ubuntu Forums, unfortunately neither of them worked, so I'll have to do a bunch more searching for it. All in all it's not that horrible of an experience, I just wish I had more time right now.

[computoman]

Except for the menu's, I have not heard of anyone with the issues you have. Are you runnung 9.04? What file system are you running? For now, I would avoid ext4 like the plague. It sounds like the install was botched in some way. I usually get more intelligent answers on the debian sites than ubuntu. I am currently using a lot of ubuntu, but I am slowly going back to debian and redhat based distros. I have found more and more clueless people on the ubuntu forums. It is a site of last resort for me unless it is a ubuntu specific change i need to deal with.

One suggestion is that do not mix repos unless you really know what you are getting into. Stay,vanilla till everythig is up and running like it should be, You can always tweak it later. Leave /etc/apt/sources.list alone so to speak fpr a bit.



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[tromoly]

Yeah, it's the 9.04 version of Crunchbang, I can't think of what kernel it is or anything else on the system right now, I'll get more info in the next couple days.

To throw a loop in, I swapped in an older AMD board with a 1.05GHz proc in it, and I couldn't get it to find the HDD. I threw in my trusty Xubuntu 7.04 disc and went to boot LiveCD, and I got an Initramfs error that won't go away by typing "exit", I'm almost wondering if it's not compatable with the video chipset on the MoBo.

Either way, I'll get a good look at things later on around the weekend.

[computoman]

Unless you have a memory problem I will have to cogitate on that. I hope your mother board is not going bye-bye. Might be a good time to set the cmos and redetect the hd. I would also swamp memory sticks first to see what happens. Tht being said, 9.04 does have issues. I did upgrade my server to 9.04 and have not seen that problem.

[tromoly]

Unless you have a memory problem I will have to cogitate on that. I hope your mother board is not going bye-bye. Might be a good time to set the cmos and redetect the hd. I would also swamp memory sticks first to see what happens. Tht being said, 9.04 does have issues. I did upgrade my server to 9.04 and have not seen that problem.

Good idea on the CMOS, popping the batteries out of both boards to let it clear (I prefer that way, always works for me), I'll give it a go this evening and see what happens.

[computoman]

You read my mind. I did mean reset not set. swamp s/b swap.