Front Page of Rev3-One big ad

[klitzy]

Okay wow. Just wondering what everyone else thinks of the new revision3 page...which might as well be called the Coors Light front page. That is pretty insane. Do full page ads where the ad basically takes up the whole page bother you? I just got on and all I see is this huge advertisement for Coors Light and it extends on the whole front page.

Good marketing? Bad marketing?

In my opinion, it's just too much. Makes me not want to buy the beer. What happened to revision3 being about sponsorships and not just running worthless ads across screens before shows, etc. With that said, I like the full page ad surrounding the video player a lot more than a 30 second ad before a show.

[shanehensley]

I don't see why so many people have so many problems with ads? It's ads like this that bring in the revenue to only make the Rev3 we all love, even better! The more ads, the more money, and in turn, the better the product can be that's put out. That's just my take on it...

-Shane

[phatlip]

I'm with Klitzy. It's a bit much. I feel like I'm on Myspace.

[guytheninja]

I'm curious. When did Coors joined the Rev3 advertiser bandwagon. I didn't figure that a beer company would be interested in an internet television business.

[klitzy]

I don't see why so many people have so many problems with ads? It's ads like this that bring in the revenue to only make the Rev3 we all love, even better! The more ads, the more money, and in turn, the better the product can be that's put out. That's just my take on it...

-Shane

Ads are one thing. But the revision3 website has turned into the Coors website with a revision3 video on it. With that said, I totally agree. If it makes HUGE bank and its like a must for them, go for it...Just saying, it's a little obnoxious. Plus, I am also curious to know how many people will now go out and buy Coors beer instead of something else whereas with an advertiser like Adagio...how many more people go buy Adagio tea.

But...I understand that Adagio doesn't quite have the same amount of money to spend on ads that Coors has.

[klitzy]

I'm curious. When did Coors joined the Rev3 advertiser bandwagon. I didn't figure that a beer company would be interested in an internet television business.

Well...when the internet television business' premier show features two guys drinking beers every episode...a beer company is definitely interested.

[beta7]

its annoying as hell, i use the iphone at times to browse the actual revision 3 page not the mobile one and every time i click to go down i end up getting the add >< this is why i dont visit break.com and im starting to consider revision 3 now too. Dont get me wrong, i love the beer but come on, everywhere in the background is the ad link?

[phatlip]

It's a bit disappointing. They just spent all this time working on a new design (very nice I might add despite a few things) and basically went and ruined it with this.

If this was their plan all along, the new design should have been MUCH more simple and shouldn't have had all the clutter currently on the homepage.

Pandora and Meebo do this well. Both have clean homepages, so it works. I don't think the same can be said for Revision3. It's like the Myspace implementation of ads such as this. There is just too much clutter on the homepage if this is their plan for monetizing the page. It CAN work, but they need to clean up things.

I don't think it's the best idea though. The ads are starting to get a little ridiculous and I've NEVER been one to complain about ads on websites (I don't use ad block or anything). I hope Revision3 brings back a subscription service so people can pay to not see so many ads.

[eminemdrdre00]

I dont know whats worse...
The huge Coors ad on Revision3.com or Patrick Norton telling me to watch JVsWorld =(

[beta7]

I dont know whats worse...
The huge Coors ad on Revision3.com or Patrick Norton telling me to watch JVsWorld =(

its worth a shot, i always take a look at few shows that revision 3 releases to see if their worth while, some just aren't i miss the good old days of web drifter and infected.

[klitzy]

I dont know whats worse...
The huge Coors ad on Revision3.com or Patrick Norton telling me to watch JVsWorld =(

I'll go with the second. "Two great shows?" "Great?" I know you work for Revision3 Patrick...but have you watched the show? Have you seen his rant? Hell, even if he hadn't gone off on revision3 fans...his show stinks. Bottom line. Content isn't there.

[bb4034]

Methinks that the rev3 higher-ups see more users running add-ons blocking banner ads so they decided to use a more "creative" approach. Myspace was also an ad-whore heavy site and they used the similar background jpeg advertising approach.

@Klitzy Adagio offers a quality product, whereas Coors offers commonly accepted subprime light beer? I think that's your answer right there. I also think that I've already had 2 heinekens and I might be feeling that I might not be 100% coherent right now. Anyway I remember hak5 had Becks dark, which was a decent blend, and as such of my deceleration of decency I decided to tend to buy more of that product.

[boldfire]

This doesn't need to become another thread about JVs World, does it.

Honestly this kind of advertisement is very effective, and I think Revision3 has done it quite tastefully. There are no animations, nothing popping up, noting popping under, no flash animation that scrolls down covering content and the fact of the matter is it has worked.

You have all came and rushed on the forums to discuss an advertisement, I can't remember this ever happening for a standard ratio advertisement.

It even keeps the homepage fresh, "oh look the homepage is white today" was my first reaction, and then it was "cool, they sponsored diggnation".

Above all this is sure to make slightly more revenue than traditional ads, all you guys moaning at JVs World and Revision3 trying to make money at the same time is a bit silly. How can they make decent programming if there isn't enough money to go around?

[bb4034]

edit: I just went to coor's wikipedia and now I look like a silly hat. Mods delete this plox.
edit+2: hmmmmm, rev3 forums could use a beer googles function, could come in handy :D
edit+3: big lols to eminemdrdre00. Oh Norton.

[klitzy]

You have all came and rushed on the forums to discuss an advertisement, I can't remember this ever happening for a standard ratio advertisement.

It even keeps the homepage fresh, "oh look the homepage is white today" was my first reaction, and then it was "cool, they sponsored diggnation".


Awesome point. Cannot deny that. Yet...I know I'm not and I assume I could speak for others as well when I say that I am not the regular revision3 watcher. I am going to be here no matter what. I have been watching since 2005 and love revision3. That's why I post here. That's why we all post here. But the majority of watchers do not post here. You reaction was "oh look at the homepage...it's white today." But how about random passerby who comes to the site and says "wow...look at all these ads. Get me off this ad fest." Possibility.

[boldfire]

This style of ad has been going for years now, people are used to them. It's not as if Revision3 are the first people. Myspace, IGN, GameSpot, and hundreds of other huge websites do it on a week-by-week basis.

And I would argue that your eyes are drawn immediately to not only the advertisement but also the feature carrousel, so if users do think "yikes thats a big ad" they'll also see a picture for Diggnation which might entice them to click it and watch.

[klitzy]

This style of ad has been going for years now, people are used to them. It's not as if Revision3 are the first people. Myspace, IGN, GameSpot, and hundreds of other huge websites do it on a week-by-week basis.

And I would argue that your eyes are drawn immediately to not only the advertisement but also the feature carrousel, so if users do think "yikes thats a big ad" they'll also see a picture for Diggnation which might entice them to click it and watch.

Maybe you are right. As I go back and look at it, it is done in a somewhat classy way and if that big advertisement switched around every once in a while...like on a week to week basis, that might be interesting, fun, and provide a nice design change.

Boldfire, you are a good spokesman for revision3 ad team ;) I think you have convinced me that it is not a half bad thing there. I am actually starting to like it after you mention how it does make that center stage video stand out.

We'll see. ;)

[beta7]

Methinks that the rev3 higher-ups see more users running add-ons blocking banner ads so they decided to use a more "creative" approach. Myspace was also an ad-whore heavy site and they used the similar background jpeg advertising approach.

@Klitzy Adagio offers a quality product, whereas Coors offers commonly accepted subprime light beer? I think that's your answer right there. I also think that I've already had 2 heinekens and I might be feeling that I might not be 100% coherent right now. Anyway I remember hak5 had Becks dark, which was a decent blend, and as such of my deceleration of decency I decided to tend to buy more of that product.


the creative background is kickass, and its interesting... the annoying part is that the entire background is a clickable ad. I used to stop all adblocking stuff on the website but im at the point where im reconsidering the main page, its just too annoying.

[boldfire]

the annoying part is that the entire background is a clickable ad.

And what if you actually wanted to click on the ad, but only one tiny bit of the overall image was clickable? Then you would be saying, "the annoying part is that only one bit of the entire background is a clickable ad and I couldn't find it."

There's no perfect way of doing it, but are you really that annoyed with the adverts that you will simply block it? Blocking it would disrupt the design of the homepage and could make Revision3 suffer financially, potentially leading to more lay offs and show cuts.

These guys are giving you free content, but you'll block their attempt at trying to monetize on it because you find it a bit annoying. Not cool in my book.

[xibalba]

I don't think it is a big deal.

[kzap]

Okay wow. Just wondering what everyone else thinks of the new revision3 page...which might as well be called the Coors Light front page. That is pretty insane. Do full page ads where the ad basically takes up the whole page bother you? I just got on and all I see is this huge advertisement for Coors Light and it extends on the whole front page.

Good marketing? Bad marketing?

In my opinion, it's just too much. Makes me not want to buy the beer. What happened to revision3 being about sponsorships and not just running worthless ads across screens before shows, etc. With that said, I like the full page ad surrounding the video player a lot more than a 30 second ad before a show.
I think it is a tad OTT and I can't block it with my advert block plug-in because then I get an ugly white background, that looks horrible.
You would think they were own by Coors and it was just video they made that ad is huge and very annoying.
But if the REALLY need it to keep the show going and I mean REALLY need it other wise we would never get Rev3 ever, then I can put up with it.

[kzap]

Ads are one thing. But the revision3 website has turned into the Coors website with a revision3 video on it. With that said, I totally agree. If it makes HUGE bank and its like a must for them, go for it...Just saying, it's a little obnoxious. Plus, I am also curious to know how many people will now go out and buy Coors beer instead of something else whereas with an advertiser like Adagio...how many more people go buy Adagio tea.

But...I understand that Adagio doesn't quite have the same amount of money to spend on ads that Coors has.
I'm sad to say I have never brought a Rev3 sponsored product EVER.
The only ones I'm remotely interested are US only. I did try signing up for a Netflix free trail, I got so far as finding a house up for sale in the US that no one was living in putting in those details (made up ones don't work) but when you had to put in a US credit card number just to get the free trail I gave up.
I just wanted to see if I could get the watch instantly working (even though a proxy).
Ads don't affect me, okay that's a lie, they make me LESS likely to buy a product, I choose what I buy from my own free will not because I follow any adverts or brand names. I know you are paying for the advert in the cost of the product so if they can afford a glossy TV advert (or to have a big full page advert) they are not spending enough on the actual product.
Also I hate it when TRS get sponsored by a game or Tekzlla get sponsored by a piece of tech because I know there is a no way for me to hear there honest opinion on it now they are just getting paid to say nice stuff about it.
How do I know Alex actually liked Dead Space or Pat thinks the Intel I7 is good or not? I don't! That detract from the show for me.
And I know suarespace isn't as great as they are making it out to be and I feel sorry for anyone who thought it was, maybe it is good I don't know but I know they are only saying it's good because they are getting paid to. Those ads don't bother me that much and I watch the Co-Op ones because they are funny, but I only think I will use any Rev3 sponsors to help the show not because I think they will be better in any way, and things like this just make me less likely to do that.

[kzap]

Just blocked the image, I've decided to put up with the ugly white for now it clashes but just as much as the ad did so it's gone.

[murphy1d]

Forum fans are fickle friends.

[boldfire]

Just blocked the image

I'm not sure you needed to say that, Revision3 depends on your impressions (and my guess is this type of advert is paid for by the amount of times the image is loaded, rather than clicked on) to keep creating the content you're here for. I get why you might want to do it, but there's no need to boast about it :rolleyes:

[kzap]

I'm not sure you needed to say that, Revision3 depends on your impressions (and my guess is this type of advert is paid for by the amount of times the image is loaded, rather than clicked on) to keep creating the content you're here for. I get why you might want to do it, but there's no need to boast about it :rolleyes:
If it is counted by the amount I views then I am happy to look at it, hell I'll even refresh my page a couple of times, but if it is just paid to be there and views don't count then I don't like beer and I'm not going to buy it if I look at the ad or not so I'd rather not.

[klitzy]

I'm sad to say I have never brought a Rev3 sponsored product EVER.
The only ones I'm remotely interested are US only. I did try signing up for a Netflix free trail, I got so far as finding a house up for sale in the US that no one was living in putting in those details (made up ones don't work) but when you had to put in a US credit card number just to get the free trail I gave up.
I just wanted to see if I could get the watch instantly working (even though a proxy).
Ads don't affect me, okay that's a lie, they make me LESS likely to buy a product, I choose what I buy from my own free will not because I follow any adverts or brand names. I know you are paying for the advert in the cost of the product so if they can afford a glossy TV advert (or to have a big full page advert) they are not spending enough on the actual product.
Also I hate it when TRS get sponsored by a game or Tekzlla get sponsored by a piece of tech because I know there is a no way for me to hear there honest opinion on it now they are just getting paid to say nice stuff about it.
How do I know Alex actually liked Dead Space or Pat thinks the Intel I7 is good or not? I don't! That detract from the show for me.
And I know suarespace isn't as great as they are making it out to be and I feel sorry for anyone who thought it was, maybe it is good I don't know but I know they are only saying it's good because they are getting paid to. Those ads don't bother me that much and I watch the Co-Op ones because they are funny, but I only think I will use any Rev3 sponsors to help the show not because I think they will be better in any way, and things like this just make me less likely to do that.

Interesting approach. Revision3 likes me alot more I bet. I look at advertisements/sponsors a good deal. Like coupons. Because that is what they are. Whenever there is an ad in a show or a sponsorship, there is usually a great deal. The sponsorships are even better because Alex and Kevin actually talk about them.

Here's the thing...yes Alex and Kevin have to talk about them and they have to support them and so do we do. If nothing else, even if that company's product blows and you will never buy it and you think it is the worst thing on the planet...they are helping put on one of your favorite podcasts and thats cool to me...so I'm like "hey...thanks Microsoft Zune...I would never buy your product but you know...I appreciate you doing this and you know...maybe I'll give you another look." I now own a zune.

I mean...no I haven't bought ever product that has sponsored revision3 but I have bought a lot. Because they were offering good deals...and they were supporting my favorite thing on the internet. For me, revision3...and this is what I have always loved about revision3...has always had a different advertising strategy. Sponsorships! Not ads! That is why I loved hearing Alex and Kevin talk about products rather than a 30 second ad in the beginning. 30 second ads in the beginning turn me off. Big pages on the front page turn me off. But hey, Alex and Kevin tasting Michelob or talking about squarespace....and even using it! That turns me on. That makes me want to buy it. And....when there is a sponsor that they are passionate about...like Adagio Tea...sweet.

This is great economics here. They get sale, I get product, Revision3 gets money. No longer is it a 1-1 relationship between buyer and seller, its a triangle of goodness.

[boldfire]

This is great economics here. They get sale, I get product, Revision3 gets money. No longer is it a 1-1 relationship between buyer and seller, its a triangle of goodness.

Most definitely! I buy lots of domains (being a web designer) and I use Revision3's codes every time. The primary reason is to support Rev3, but with the added bonus of over the years it's saved me a fortune!

[kzap]

Interesting approach. Revision3 likes me alot more I bet. I look at advertisements/sponsors a good deal. Like coupons. Because that is what they are. Whenever there is an ad in a show or a sponsorship, there is usually a great deal. The sponsorships are even better because Alex and Kevin actually talk about them.

Here's the thing...yes Alex and Kevin have to talk about them and they have to support them and so do we do. If nothing else, even if that company's product blows and you will never buy it and you think it is the worst thing on the planet...they are helping put on one of your favorite podcasts and thats cool to me...so I'm like "hey...thanks Microsoft Zune...I would never buy your product but you know...I appreciate you doing this and you know...maybe I'll give you another look." I now own a zune.

I mean...no I haven't bought ever product that has sponsored revision3 but I have bought a lot. Because they were offering good deals...and they were supporting my favorite thing on the internet. For me, revision3...and this is what I have always loved about revision3...has always had a different advertising strategy. Sponsorships! Not ads! That is why I loved hearing Alex and Kevin talk about products rather than a 30 second ad in the beginning. 30 second ads in the beginning turn me off. Big pages on the front page turn me off. But hey, Alex and Kevin tasting Michelob or talking about squarespace....and even using it! That turns me on. That makes me want to buy it. And....when there is a sponsor that they are passionate about...like Adagio Tea...sweet.
Here's the thing, the deals aren't that great, they are okay but if I shop around I'm sure I could find something cheaper.
I just don't have the money to buy, say a Zune, because it's on the show, if I need a PMP (Portable Media Player) and if by some chance they do happen to be the best option then I will use the code but that has never happened yet.
I want to support the show but I would rather have a donate button so I can just give the show some money as apposed to spending loads on a product I don't know I want and only a litle of that money goint to the show.
I would rather an ad that Rev3 just got money from me watching rather than watching my favorite hosts trying to convince me to buy something I don't want, to me it just seems low, that's why I like the co-op ads most because they seem like what they are: adverts!
If I need hosting and Godady are the best option then I will use them but from what I have seen they look like a really bad company, you have to pay extra for your info to be hidden? and didn't they say one episode that if two people want the same site they bid for it?
That just seems like bad practice to me.
I want to support the show but I have very little money as it is and
Netflix don't ship to the UK
Godady don't seem to be the best deals on hosting
I don't drink beer
I don't drink expensive tea.
Don't get me wrong I want to support Rev3 I really do but I'm not going to buy a product because the hosts were paid to talk about it,
Give me a donate bottom and I'll kindly give them a couple of dollars every few months. It's all I can afford and I'm not going to buy a £50 video game just to support the show,

And does it not bother you that we won't be able to hear what the TRS guys thought of Dead Space. It looked like a good game but I really wanted to hear there unbiased opinions.
If they get money from every time that image is loaded I will happily clear my history and refresh the page a few times.

[kzap]

This is great economics here. They get sale, I get product, Revision3 gets money. No longer is it a 1-1 relationship between buyer and seller, its a triangle of goodness.
I lose money - I get product I don't want - Rev3 bet a tiny percentage - the evil big corporate entity get the rest.
It's no longer a 1-1 relationship between buyer and seller, its a square of evil!

[heyseuss]

Forum fans are fickle friends.

I like fickles.

[kzap]

I like fickles.
I like friends.


Not the TV show I hate that.

[rabidbadger]

Well, I rarely visit the main site, so when I saw it just now, to be honest, I was shocked and dismayed at how the wonderful looking new website now looks like crap. And the coors ads will never work on me anyway beacause a, the beer is heinous, and b, the company is evil (http://www.bamn.com/boycott-coors/coors-myths-facts.asp). Most proabably the reason they aint apologizing for the JV F****t rant. Piss off the sponsors.

(no, not gonna boycott rev3, or anything, just trying to educate.)

[kzap]

Well, I rarely visit the main site, so when I saw it just now, to be honest, I was shocked and dismayed at how the wonderful looking new website now looks like crap. And the coors ads will never work on me anyway beacause a, the beer is heinous, and b, the company is evil (http://www.bamn.com/boycott-coors/coors-myths-facts.asp). Most proabably the reason they aint apologizing for the JV F****t rant. Piss off the sponsors.
Yea I hate beer to, that's why I blocked the ad, I'm not going to buy it anyway.

[rabidbadger]

I meant Coors beer is heinous. Beer in general is the awesomeness!

[kzap]

I meant Coors beer is heinous. Beer in general is the awesomeness!
Hell no, Peer Cider FTW!!!
Well I normally call it Percy cos I'm posh,
The only alcoholic I will go near is white wine, cider and champaign when most other people my age (I don't call the peers the were only born around the same time as me) drink beer, vodka and horrible shot stuff.
Since I have been watching Tikibar TV I've been wanting to get into cocktails.
Anyway Coors beer being heinousis my point. The hosts are only saying the like the product for the money, you can't take them seriously and it just makes me more annoyed that I won't know if they actualy like what they are reveiwing or not. But I understand that's why I think all the video game sponsers should go to Tekzilla and shows like that tech sponsers should go to TRS and Co-Op, beer sponsers should go to Scam School, it fits with the theme of the show without being what the show is about "If your gonna scam a beer, scam a cold Coors beer" and other sponsers could go to Diggnation.
Would that be so hard?

[rabidbadger]

I don't think Brian would do that. They were all drinking coors this latest ep, (which was filmed weeks ago, so the coors placement was in place for a while now).

He will be shown drinking it, but he will never say it's better than his beloved Guinness. I'd abandon him if he did, even if I do prefer Boddingtons and Smithwicks, myself.

[kzap]

I don't think Brian would do that. They were all drinking coors this latest ep, (which was filmed weeks ago, so the coors placement was in place for a while now).

He will be shown drinking it, but he will never say it's better than his beloved Guinness. I'd abandon him if he did, even if I do prefer Boddingtons and Smithwicks, myself.
Still, do you see my point? That a product should sponsor a show were people want to hear honest opinions about those kids of products.
Or am I going crazy here.

It's like Kodak sponsoring someone to tell you which type of camera is best.

[rabidbadger]

I guess my thought is is Leo Laporte refusing to sponsor something he doesn't use, or at least think is a good product. It's about integrity. And the gay bashing Coors Co. is not helping me actually "get behind" so to speak, rev3.

[travislopes]

Ads like this make me want to not buy a product from the company advertising. I'm fine with in-show ads, pre-roll ads, and banner ads, but the whole "page background ad" is a little much.

[kzap]

Ads like this make me want to not buy a product from the company advertising. I'm fine with in-show ads, pre-roll ads, and banner ads, but the whole "page background ad" is a little much.
Agreed and that is the exact reason I blocked it, if you don't like it feel free to download firefox and the 'adbloc plus' plugin and just block the image.

[codefire]

I don't know about the rest of you out there, but I currently hate the ad space for the new layout. It's way too busy, too much in your face "BUY THIS PRODUCT" feel. I'd rather have the old way back, or scale it down a bit. I just don't like it at all.

[janderson91]

Can you say Adblocked?

Love you Rev3, I can't bare to see it every time I visit the site though.

[beta7]

Here's the thing, the deals aren't that great, they are okay but if I shop around I'm sure I could find something cheaper.
I just don't have the money to buy, say a Zune, because it's on the show, if I need a PMP (Portable Media Player) and if by some chance they do happen to be the best option then I will use the code but that has never happened yet.
I want to support the show but I would rather have a donate button so I can just give the show some money as apposed to spending loads on a product I don't know I want and only a litle of that money goint to the show.
I would rather an ad that Rev3 just got money from me watching rather than watching my favorite hosts trying to convince me to buy something I don't want, to me it just seems low, that's why I like the co-op ads most because they seem like what they are: adverts!
If I need hosting and Godady are the best option then I will use them but from what I have seen they look like a really bad company, you have to pay extra for your info to be hidden? and didn't they say one episode that if two people want the same site they bid for it?
That just seems like bad practice to me.
I want to support the show but I have very little money as it is and
Netflix don't ship to the UK
Godady don't seem to be the best deals on hosting
I don't drink beer
I don't drink expensive tea.
Don't get me wrong I want to support Rev3 I really do but I'm not going to buy a product because the hosts were paid to talk about it,
Give me a donate bottom and I'll kindly give them a couple of dollars every few months. It's all I can afford and I'm not going to buy a £50 video game just to support the show,

And does it not bother you that we won't be able to hear what the TRS guys thought of Dead Space. It looked like a good game but I really wanted to hear there unbiased opinions.
If they get money from every time that image is loaded I will happily clear my history and refresh the page a few times.

What you just said reminded me of the good old days in 2k5 when there was a premium donors benefit, you get to watch content earlier, and I'm not sure if you got the option to skip the ads but seriously, I would rather donate a monthly fee which is probably more then what the advertiser's pay them just to skip all this bs and get a nice clean cut website without too much traffic, my eye's are going nuts here,

Edit:
Also, here's something interesting that's on digg.com that I thought you guys might find ironic in a way. http://digg.com/software/Greasemonkey_to_the_Web_Fixing_Rescue

[heyseuss]

Here's the thing, the deals aren't that great, they are okay but if I shop around I'm sure I could find something cheaper.

From all the rev3 shows I've seen, there never have been any deals offered in the advertising. All the 'deals' that are offered are what you could find regardless of being introduced to the product by rev3. The 'code' is just so rev3 and the company being advertised can keep track of how much bidness comes from rev3 audience. What the viewer and consumer gets when 'using code at checkout' is the same as what anyone would get coming from anywhere else. You aren't getting '2 week risk-free trial when you use the code: diggnation', you're getting 2 weeks free, because that's what all their new customers get.


Give me a donate bottom and I'll kindly give them a couple of dollars every

TRS accepts donations on their website, and they could use it too.

Other than that, the 'new website' to me only seems to mean - less identity on the front page with alot more noise and cluttered space, and the forums just got alot of ugly fonts and bright white text.

[guytheninja]

I'm not that offended by the front page ad. I'm not offended by ads in general unless they are medical ads (like lamisil, viagra, and herpes commercials etc...), or there are a million ads in the TV show.

Other than that, I would rather watch ads than pay money per episode any day of the week.

[xibalba]

I like seeing the One Piece ads something I am actually interested in. :D

[kzap]

From all the rev3 shows I've seen, there never have been any deals offered in the advertising. All the 'deals' that are offered are what you could find regardless of being introduced to the product by rev3. The 'code' is just so rev3 and the company being advertised can keep track of how much bidness comes from rev3 audience. What the viewer and consumer gets when 'using code at checkout' is the same as what anyone would get coming from anywhere else. You aren't getting '2 week risk-free trial when you use the code: diggnation', you're getting 2 weeks free, because that's what all their new customers get.
I thought it might be, all the DVD services in the UK give you a two week free trail anyway then ask you if you have it to entire the unique number of the person who introduced you to the service or something like that.
Anyway the ad appears to be gone on my computer I don't know if it's the ad blocker or whither Rev3 have got rid of, anyway I thought it could just be one or two days a week.
I could put up with it if it was just say one day a week or every couple of weeks but a 24/7 ad feels a bit tacky.

[boldfire]

I could put up with it if it was just say one day a week or every couple of weeks but a 24/7 ad feels a bit tacky.

Obviously not because you blocked it after a few hours of going live:

Just blocked the image, I've decided to put up with the ugly white for now it clashes but just as much as the ad did so it's gone.

[kzap]

Obviously not because you blocked it after a few hours of going live:
Yes but if Rev3 told us it would only be temporary I would have put up with it.
They don't seem to have very good communication with the viewers, JVs world then making the front page of the site one big ad without telling us.

[boldfire]

They don't seem to have very good communication with the viewers, JVs world then making the front page of the site one big ad without telling us.

I received a response from David Prager about JVs World, Jim Louderback went on Brian Brushwood's Live Show about it and posted here in the forums. The consistent response has been "give it five or so episodes to settle in". That is fair enough.

Regarding the second point, why should they tell you? Do you go to, say, collegehumor.com who today are running a similar style advert for Red Bull and email them because they didn't inform you personally they were going to run this advert.

It just seems like a very odd thing to want to know about. Schedule changes, sure. New shows and cancellations, definitely. What adverts are running when, where and for how long, huh?

Regardless the homepage campaign has now finished - back to the dark grey if you want to unblock to get rid of the clashing colours :)

[kzap]

I received a response from David Prager about JVs World, Jim Louderback went on Brian Brushwood's Live Show about it and posted here in the forums. The consistent response has been "give it five or so episodes to settle in". That is fair enough.

Regarding the second point, why should they tell you? Do you go to, say, collegehumor.com who today are running a similar style advert for Red Bull and email them because they didn't inform you personally they were going to run this advert.

It just seems like a very odd thing to want to know about. Schedule changes, sure. New shows and cancellations, definitely. What adverts are running when, where and for how long, huh?

Regardless the homepage campaign has now finished - back to the dark grey if you want to unblock to get rid of the clashing colours :)

I don't expect a personally message but just a friendly note on the forums that they are running this ad campaign for a few days. They told us they were redesigning the site it would have been nice if they told us about the ad campaign and how long it would go on for,
If they don't it's there loss because as you can see I blocked the ad, if I had known it was only for a few days I would have left it but as they didn't tell me they tell me they lost out not me.
Remember the customer is always right.

[boldfire]

Yep they are. But you're not a customer. You're a consumer of their service. By the way, they didn't say a website was coming. Somebody found it by mistake and a few of the staff hinted at something.

I'm not trying to be rude, or argumentative. I just think that your "They didn't tell me so I'm not playing ball" attitude is pretty selfish. You want your cake (revision3 shows) and then eat it (being told everything about everything).

[kzap]

Yep they are. But you're not a customer. You're a consumer of their service. By the way, they didn't say a website was coming. Somebody found it by mistake and a few of the staff hinted at something.

I'm not trying to be rude, or argumentative. I just think that your "They didn't tell me so I'm not playing ball" attitude is pretty selfish. You want your cake (revision3 shows) and then eat it (being told everything about everything).
What else would I do with cake?
and I don't want to be informed about EVERYTHING but it would make the service better wouldn't it?
And blocking adverts is not illegal so if they don't want people to do it, it would be nice if they told us, that's all I'm saying.
It's called CONSTRUCTIVE criticism, if no one suggested ways to make the site better it would get better, I'm suggesting that if they want to stop people blocking the ads they should tell people about them before hand.
I'm just thinking of ways to make Revision3 better, which I thought was the opposite of selfish.

[boldfire]

No, don't get me wrong. Feedback is great, and I'm sure they'll use all the feedback on this thread for future use. I just believe that they're providing us a service for free so we shouldn't block their attempts at making money to keep it going.

But your argument of telling people about ads before, I really can't get my head around why this would stop people blocking them - and it's probably people blocking them in the first place which led to advertisements like this. If this fails we will possibly have more adverts in shows and more obtrusive adverts on the site. The solution really isn't bad as people are making it out to be. People know adverts are coming on TV in the break but they still channel-surf during them.

Anyway I think we might be starting to repeat the same arguments time and time again, let's call it a day :)

[kzap]

No, don't get me wrong. Feedback is great, and I'm sure they'll use all the feedback on this thread for future use. I just believe that they're providing us a service for free so we shouldn't block their attempts at making money to keep it going.
But I am NEVER GOING TO BUY THE PRODUCT ANYWAY! Sorry about the caps but it's a simple point I've been trying to make, if they told me they got money from me simply viewing the image then I would view the image if it is indirect (that being they get a tiny percentage of every beet sale) or they get a set amount a month no matter how many people look at the image, then I won't look at it.
If I know it's only a temporary thing I will put up with it, otherwise I will block it.
Just my 2 cents.

And by the way when I said "the customer is always right" I was JOKING! About how I know I was being demanding but I am still their customers and society dictates you have to be nice to customers. ;)

[boldfire]

This is my last post on this matter, I feel like we're getting annoying now :P

But I am NEVER GOING TO BUY THE PRODUCT ANYWAY!
ZOMG CAPS ;)! Advertising is more about getting people to buy your product. Although it's the eventual goal it is more about brand recognition and awareness. Even if the product isn't for you, if your friend asks what they should drink because you have this brand in your noggin' you might instinctively think of that. Example: I used to use TOSDomains.net for all of my domain purchases because a friend reccomended it. But over the years I've heard "godaddy" hundreds of times from Revision3 and now I instinctively associate domains with godaddy - and therefore they get my sale.

If I know it's only a temporary thing I will put up with it, otherwise I will block it.
Aye, like I said earlier the advert has gone today.

And by the way when I said "the customer is always right" I was JOKING! About how I know I was being demanding but I am still their customers and society dictates you have to be nice to customers. ;)
I gathered ;) Fact still remains that you are not their customer. If you were subscribing to their service, you would be though.

[kzap]

ZOMG CAPS ;)! Advertising is more about getting people to buy your product. Although it's the eventual goal it is more about brand recognition and awareness. Even if the product isn't for you, if your friend asks what they should drink because you have this brand in your noggin' you might instinctively think of that. Example: I used to use TOSDomains.net for all of my domain purchases because a friend reccomended it. But over the years I've heard "godaddy" hundreds of times from Revision3 and now I instinctively associate domains with godaddy - and therefore they get my sale.
Is would instinctively say "Don't go to Godaddy, they seem to spend all there money sponsoring webshows, you would get a better deal with a company that spends less on marketing and more on keeping low prices"
I buy loads of domains and won't use Godaddy, if I do it will be just for the sake of Rev3 not myself.
It's the same with TV and cinema ads, I think "This an amazing advert, this must have cost millions to make, I wonder how much of that is reflected in the price of the product?"

[kzap]

I used to use TOSDomains.net for all of my domain purchases because a friend reccomended it. But over the years I've heard "godaddy" hundreds of times from Revision3 and now I instinctively associate domains with godaddy - and therefore they get my sale.
Then you have a very weak mind, you have to learn to ignore the ads or you will lose your wallet, you actually chose something recommend by people getting paid to recommend it over your own friend's un-biases advice :(

[boldfire]

Then you have a very weak mind, you have to learn to ignore the ads or you will lose your wallet, you actually chose something recommend by people getting paid to recommend it over your own friend's un-biases advice :(

Excuse me? I chose it because I had problems with TOS, the Revision3 godaddy domain codes make .com names £1.50 cheaper (and considering I buy about 15 domains a month for customers I easily save £22.50 a month, £270 a year) and in the process help Revision3 out. It's not a case of me having a "weak mind" as you put it. It's me having respect for Revision3 and making smart business choices.

[kzap]

Excuse me? I chose it because I had problems with TOS, the Revision3 godaddy domain codes make .com names £1.50 cheaper (and considering I buy about 15 domains a month for customers I easily save £22.50 a month, £270 a year) and in the process help Revision3 out. It's not a case of me having a "weak mind" as you put it. It's me having respect for Revision3 and making smart business choices.
Sorry how is getting paid to say you like a product a smart business choice? I agree it gets them money but it's advertising nothing more. I personally would rather give directly to Revision3, that way I lose less money and they get more money then if I buy a product and them getting a cut.
Why would I go to godaddy when the only people I know who tell me it's good are getting paid to say that.
No one else I know has recommended it only people getting paid to.
You can't honestly think Revision3 are saving you money on domains you understand how money works, right? To pay Rev3 to recommend them, they have to cover that cost, the only way to do that is to put there prices up. The coupon codes are nothing more than a code so they know who sent you.
Maybe it's because I dislike capitalism and big companies that can afford sponsorships and adverts but I'm not going to pay for anything that someone else has been paid to convince me to buy.
Personally preference and that is why I block the ads:
They are in the way
I don't like them
I won't buy the product anyway
It is not illegal for me to get rid of themSo I shall get block them plain and simple, I shall skip over the sponsorship sections (except in co-op) because no matter how many times the TRS crew tell me to go to godaddy I will not go there, in fact, like I said it makes me less likly to go there.
That's just how adverts affect me.

[kzap]

Things like this make me even less likly to use Godaddy (I wasn't going to any way but):
On March 11, 2008, GoDaddy shut down RateMyCop.com—a RateMyProfessors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RateMyProfessors.com)-type site where people would comment on their interactions with law enforcement officers—after complaints from police officers.[67] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_Daddy#cite_note-66) After being contacted about the shutdown, GoDaddy responded that it was due to "suspicious activity". However, the owner of the site was later told by GoDaddy that the site was shut down for reaching its 3 terabyte bandwidth limit, although doubt has been expressed about the second explanation as the site had only 80,000 connected users that day and 400,000 the previous day. The registrar for the name, Name.com (http://name.com/), continued to allow the dns to resolve. Go Daddy stated the reason for shutting down the Web site had nothing to do with censorship or complaints. The Web site was receiving too many simultaneous connections.[68] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_Daddy#cite_note-67) In a similar incident, GoDaddy also quickly complied with a demand that the Irish website RateYourSolicitor.com be censored.[69] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_Daddy#cite_note-68)

GoDaddy frequently "fines" customers accused of spamming or other policy violations — without giving customers any recourse to dispute the allegations against them. When accused of a policy violation customers are given the option of paying a US $199 fine and staying with GoDaddy, or paying a US $75 administrative fee and initiate a transfer within 24 hours to another web host & registrar, or having their domain names suspended and made nontransferable until they expire if they do not pay

No recourse if they think you broke the agreement you can't defend your self you have to pay and stay or pay and go, that seems evil to me. With Godaddy it's guily until proven... wait no.. Just guilty and go I suppose you can't even prove yourself innocent.

[janderson91]

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png

[boldfire]

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png

Haha love it!

Sorry how is getting paid to say you like a product a smart business choice
I mean for me as a freelance web designer, going with people who save me money who I am also happy with and confident in their longevity is a smart business choice.

[guytheninja]

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png

Cold, hard truth bro! Cold, hard truth!
This is why I tend to avoid the politics section. No matter how good your argument is, no matter how many times you say it --- people are not going to change their minds. I think the part of the brain that allows you to change opinions is automatically shut off when viewing a computer screen :D :D.

[boldfire]

Cold, hard truth bro! Cold, hard truth!
This is why I tend to avoid the politics section. No matter how good your argument is, no matter how many times you say it --- people are not going to change their minds. I think the part of the brain that allows you to change opinions is automatically shut off when viewing a computer screen :D :D.

I know this, yet I still try and talk sense (at least, my sense) into people. Next time I do this I'd like anybody to PM me telling me "DONT DO IT ANDREW!!!!"

[kzap]

Cold, hard truth bro! Cold, hard truth!
This is why I tend to avoid the politics section. No matter how good your argument is, no matter how many times you say it --- people are not going to change their minds.
Indeed that's why you should never try to change there minds.
Anyway XKCD for the win.
That one always comes into my head when I'm trying to 'fix' stuff on the Internet. I try not to change people point of view just get the to accept and understand mine.
Accept as in accept I have that view and it's not going to change no matter what they say and understand as in understand why I have that point of view and that there is no wrong or right answer but my previous girl friend could not understand why I spent so much time trying to educate people I've never even met over the Internet,

[kzap]

I know this, yet I still try and talk sense (at least, my sense) into people. Next time I do this I'd like anybody to PM me telling me "DONT DO IT ANDREW!!!!"
If you name Andrew? Cool that's mine too.
And you have to accept I have my point to view and not try to change it, I'm not breaking any laws by blocking those adverts and in my own personally morals I'm not doing anything wrong.
I've never once tried to convince you to block the adverts I have just explained why I do it and you take offense at that?
I have the right to do it, I see nothing wrong with doing it, I'm going to do it, there is nothing you can do to stop me or change my mind as the way I see it I'm doing nothing wrong.
In fact I'm doing something right: Not looking at the advert makes me personally more likely to buy the product.

[samureye]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Idh1yr1SJNA

[klitzy]

No more big ad on the front page.

[kzap]

No more big ad on the front page.
Yea that's good, does anyone know why, is it because everyone complained about it, in which case "Well Done Revision3" or was it just a temporary deal in the first place in which case "Noe well done Revision3 why didn't you tell us, it could have prevented people (including me) over reacting".

[boldfire]

Yea that's good, does anyone know why, is it because everyone complained about it, in which case "Well Done Revision3" or was it just a temporary deal in the first place in which case "Noe well done Revision3 why didn't you tell us, it could have prevented people (including me) over reacting".

It was an advert. It was always going to be temporary.

[kzap]

It was an advert. It was always going to be temporary.
Would have been nice if they told us that, don't ya think?

[xibalba]

Would have been nice if they told us that, don't ya think?

Nope.

[boldfire]

No, I'd have thought that being an advertisement for a campaign it would be obvious it was temporary to be completely honest. Did you think Coors now owned the homepage?

[kzap]

No, I'd have thought that being an advertisement for a campaign it would be obvious it was temporary to be completely honest. Did you think Coors now owned the homepage?
No but I think communication is a good thing, and for all I knew it could have been a permanent change, how long would it have taken them to create a forum post saying "we are running an advertising campaign to bring more revenue to Revision3 so we can keep bringing wonderful shows". If they had this thread would never have been created, like I said I don't care, I'll just block the ad, Revision3 are the ones losing out not me.
They have to remember I can watch the shows without the sponsors, I can block the adverts on the main site, I choose to watch the sponsors every time they get a new one and I chose to wait a couple of hours before I blocked that advert, I was doing it for them not me.

[xibalba]

Like it or not they don't have to tell us everything they do. They communcate great with us more so than just about any other company. You don't have the right know all the business dealings they do. A simple ad(yes I consider it a simple ad) like that doesn't bother anyone just a minor eye sore. Complaining about it seems very childish.

[kzap]

Like it or not they don't have to tell us everything they do. They communcate great with us more so than just about any other company. You don't have the right know all the business dealings they do. A simple ad(yes I consider it a simple ad) like that doesn't bother anyone just a minor eye sore. Complaining about it seems very childish.
I understand they don't HAVE to but they have nothing to lose by it and the fact that this thread exist is evidence enough that people didn't like the change and would have been more accepting if they had known about it before hand and understood why it was needed.
I'm not complaining I'm making suggestions of how to make Rev3 even better.

[phatlip]

Like it or not they don't have to tell us everything they do. They communcate great with us more so than just about any other company. You don't have the right know all the business dealings they do. A simple ad(yes I consider it a simple ad) like that doesn't bother anyone just a minor eye sore. Complaining about it seems very childish.

Well, it's not so much complaining about the ad itself, but about how effective ads like this are.

I read an article about this recently. These ads CAN work very well IF implemented correctly. The article used Meebo as an example of using this strategy correctly.

If this is their goal, they need to simplify the design on the homepage some more. That and I think they should offer paid subscriptions for those who don't want to look at the ads because Rev3 really seems to have an ad every where you turn now. At least with a paid membership, people will have the option to not look at all the ads.

[kzap]

Well, it's not so much complaining about the ad itself, but about how effective ads like this are.

I read an article about this recently. These ads CAN work very well IF implemented correctly. The article used Meebo as an example of using this strategy correctly.

If this is their goal, they need to simplify the design on the homepage some more. That and I think they should offer paid subscriptions for those who don't want to look at the ads because Rev3 really seems to have an ad every where you turn now. At least with a paid membership, people will have the option to not look at all the ads.
Paid membership is a great idea, I just want a donate button as I block all the adverts anyway but I would be happy for a paid membership as long it was not to much.

[xibalba]

The thing about paid memberships is some people would be starting threads saying it is unfair that they get an ad free site while they don't. When they had the subscription before just about everyday there was a new thread or post complaining about it because the payers got the show early and those who didn't pay, did not.

[boldfire]

The thing about paid memberships is some people would be starting threads saying it is unfair that they get an ad free site while they don't. When they had the subscription before just about everyday there was a new thread or post complaining about it because the payers got the show early and those who didn't pay, did not.

+1, this led to rebellion in people distributing Diggnation early themselves, costing Revision3 money in the long run. Likewise people will eagerly share to people "No need to pay to get rid of ads, here's how to do it..." who would otherwise pay.

[kzap]

+1, this led to rebellion in people distributing Diggnation early themselves, costing Revision3 money in the long run. Likewise people will eagerly share to people "No need to pay to get rid of ads, here's how to do it..." who would otherwise pay.
That's why a donation button would be good, I could get rid of adverts anyway but that doesn't mean I don't want to support the station.

[boldfire]

Sorry, yeah! I was meant to write at the end "But I'd support them with donations".

[scoobydiesel]

i remember when i was a paid member...

I would still donate as a whole to Rev3.

[boldfire]

i remember when i was a paid member...

I would still donate as a whole to Rev3.

Yep, I remember paypalling just to watch the Gazette.

[xibalba]

A Donation button would be fine as long as those who donated don't get extra perks or else we will have ton of people whining.

[secret-steve-crumbles]

A Donation button would be fine as long as those who donated don't get extra perks or else we will have ton of people whining.That won't happen unless things are promised by Jim like custom user titles... oh, wait. That's coming soon, right?

[hadees]

I didn't really mind the ad but it also didn't make me want a coors light so i guess it failed in that respect.

[mavrevmatt]

And now G4 has taken over the Revision3 homepage...

[masterq]

And now G4 is taking up the Revision3 homepage...

We are G4. Resistance is futile. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us.

Welcome to RevisionG4 ladies and gentleman! I for one welcome our new G4 overlords...

/s

[aiiaznsk8er]

I have to say that the huge front page ad really caught me off guard. The site layout is much cleaner without it.

[murphy1d]

I have to say, good on Revision3 for being able to scam more money from advertisers. Maybe they can afford now to get more Live Diggnation in more cities closer to where I live.

Or we can bitch that Revision3 is trying to make some money.