Remembering Michael Jackson

[mega-man]

In light of his passing does anyone have any moments in their life that were effected by Michael Jackson's music. Personally "Thriller" was the first album I ever had on Vinyl. I bought it for $3 from Salvation Army. It's one of my favorite albums and is a true classic. I will miss his music but I donno what happened to him in his later years....

[cashbailey]

He was Elvis to us kids who grew up in the 80's. Even in the early 90's with the 'Dangerous' period he was absolutely amazing.

Yeah, he lost it after that. But nobody can ever take his acheivements away from him.

[ryan79]

I don't care who you are, EVERYBODY knows a Michael Jackson song. Sure, towards the end he became a freak show but he was one of the greatest entertainers to ever live. He was the definition of 'cultural icon'.

Here's a question to ponder...who's the new King of Pop? I vote for Prince.

[rabidbadger]

Even though, I'm a more punk/alternative guy, MJ was a pop song writing master. Billie Jean is a pop-music master work, and several others are also awesome. I was a HUGE jackson 5 fan as a kid. (remember, he's (was :( ) only 5 years older than me. He was THE thing.

[ariastar]

I'm going to repost what I've already written:

I am beyond angry. For YEARS I've defended him. It's so easy to get a child molestation charge to stick simply because people are so disgusted by it and want to blame someone. TWICE he was found NOT GUILTY. Yet the majority of people still declared him to be a molester. Know what? I was molested by a kid as a teenager, a male babysitter, and I still deal with issues from it. He was convicted/ So I understand wanting to blame someone! But there wasn't enough, twice there wasn't enough, to get convictions against Michael. This means something!!

And now that he's dead, all of a sudden people are on his side and talking about how wonderful he was. WHERE THE HELL WAS THIS SUPPORT WHEN HE WAS ALIVE AND NEEDED THE SUPPORT?! This is what angers me. The lack of support he needed when alive, and it's only coming out now that it won't do him any good.

He and my mother has a very similar childhood, frighteningly similar. I've ha a soft spot in my heart for him for pretty much my entire life. He never got to have a childhood, and really, he never hurt anyone. He was the one who was hurt so much, but he didn't pass that on. He stopped the cycle and tried to make life fun for kids the way his own childhood wasn't. My mother did some similar things, trying to compensate for the childhood she didn't get to have by trying to make sure my brother and I had the best childhoods possible with all the things she didn't get to have. But this doesn't mean Michael ever did anything to kids. He only tried to do good for people.

If I see any more pictures of Michael as a child, I'm going to cry. As it is, it's hard not to my cry my eyes out. He really was a good guy. This is the first time ever that a celebrity's passing has brought tears to my eyes.

[vegan]

http://www.toplessrobot.com/Michael%20Jackson%20&%20E.T.jpg

[mega-man]

My support for Michael Jackson is purely based on the Artist he was not the person he grew up to become. It's hard to support a guy that was accused twice of child molestation on a personal level especially when he settled for $22 million even though he was "innocent." The man destroyed himself physically and became no sort of role model for the audience he attempted to reach...

As for the next "King of Pop" dare I say... Justin Timberlake?? lmao

[rabidbadger]

see this 2 year old thread.
(http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?p=258046#post258046)
And yeah, I'm shocked. It's like Elvis and Di all over again. (And Valentino (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolph_Valentino#Death_and_funeral), but even I aint old enough to remember that one)

[cashbailey]

http://www.toplessrobot.com/Michael%20Jackson%20&%20E.T.jpg

'Alien VS Predator'

Sorry, with respect I couldn't help it.

[terryscss]

I still feel like I'm in shock, none of this feels real.

[dexter]

No one can deny his talent but he was one weird motherfucker.

[vegan]

'Alien VS Predator'

Sorry, with respect I couldn't help it.

I lolled for real.

[ariastar]

It's hard to support a guy that was accused twice of child molestation on a personal level especially when he settled for $22 million even though he was "innocent."

Doesn't mean anything. The cost of going forth with the cost of defense could have topped that plus taken years of his life. The man's body, every inch, was photographed multiple times. Have you ANY idea how traumatic that would be for someone who had been so extremely abused as a child? And then to have the details of your most private parts publicly discussed by the media? How could you possibly blame him for trying to protect himself emotionally and mentally?

You clearly don't know what it's like having someone you don't want looking as your most private areas getting up close and personal. Against his will he was having to expose everything, and then let everything be photographed. When this happens to women, there are support groups. When it happened to him, he's faulted for trying to find a way to protect his body from further exposure and public discussion. Thank the gods you've never been molested or raped. He basically was.

If your child was molested, would you want that person to rot in jail forever, or would you settle for suspiciously close to the amount you wanted the accused to invest in some money-making idea? If someone molested my child, they'd better be in jail to keep me from killing them. No amount of money would be worth letting the person who molested my child continue on with a normal life. Anyone who would gladly take money instead of want to keep a molester of the streets is someone I don't trust to be telling the truth.

[taozoo4u]

Doesn't mean anything. The cost of going forth with the cost of defense could have topped that plus taken years of his life. The man's body, every inch, was photographed multiple times. Have you ANY idea how traumatic that would be for someone who had been so extremely abused as a child? And then to have the details of your most private parts publicly discussed by the media? How could you possibly blame him for trying to protect himself emotionally and mentally?


so he protected himself by molesting little boys?

[tsmith15]

I liked a couple of his songs and I'm sure his effect on the music industry was profound enough that I gained from it in numerous ways over the years that I do have respect for him. On the flip side, he allegedly molested children and looked freaky. Mixed bag.

[p2a1x7]

And now that he's dead, all of a sudden people are on his side and talking about how wonderful he was. WHERE THE HELL WAS THIS SUPPORT WHEN HE WAS ALIVE AND NEEDED THE SUPPORT?! This is what angers me. The lack of support he needed when alive, and it's only coming out now that it won't do him any good.

People remember him and love him for his music. They don't remember him and love him for his personal life. He was a weird guy with mental issues. Just because you were never convicted of something doesn't mean you are innocent, just like you can be innocent even though you were proven guilty. No need to get angry at all these people paying their respects to a man that shaped their views on music.

He was a great musician, but a troubled man.

[mrhaines]

I never really listened to his music when I was young, but I still know almost all of his songs. He really defined the generation growing up in the 80's and early 90's. I really think the world was too hard on this guy and his later life was such a tragedy because of it. The world was so quick to judge a guy because his fame made him the perfect target. May he now find the peace that he didn't achieve in life.

As for memories, I remember seeing Free Willy with my Dad when I had cancer as a kid. I really liked the movie when I was young and the song Will You Be There meant a lot to me because it embodied the feelings I had toward the people in my life who were supporting me through that hard time in my life.

Michael Jacksons music will always be a part of so many people of my generation. Rest In Peace Michael.

[kilroyperrywinkle]

The world was so quick to judge a guy because his fame made him the perfect target.

Fame? Not so much... being a bleached skinned eccentric millionaire weirdo who talks funny made him a perfect target.

I'm sorry he's passed, but not surprised and I don't feel this "loss" to the world. He's been dead musically for a long while, and its hard for me to feel bad for people who have lived in luxury for most of their life when they pass away at 50. Even with the molestation charges the guy lived better for his short life than most people do when they live to be 100, its not like he was homeless and poor. I feel bad for his family and his poorly named kids, but my life isn't ruined by the passing of another rich music star.

(Oh and Justine Timberlake's got my vote as the new "King of Pop")

[vegan]

Well, the information is out there that a lot of the pigmentation is due to a couple of skin conditions. That's not to say that he wasn't addicted to plastic surgery and was a total man-child in a medical non-sarcastic sense.

[willijay]

I really only have one experience that I think MJ influenced. When I was 12 I use to breakdance and I prided myself at being able to do the moonwalk and the shuffle as good as him.

He will be missed. I have his greatest hits in my car.

[wideawakewesley]

I've loved Michael Jackson's music all my life so far and will continue to do so for the rest of it. He was, is and always will be the King of Pop.

[ryan79]

The Onion is on top of their game and has an article about MJ.

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/neverland_ranch_investigators?utm_source=most_pop_ dugg

[heyseuss]

I'm the only one who will admit that I wasn't fanatical about his music and don't really care, huh ?

[tokenuser]

I fear a lot of the younger folks biggest experience (so to speak) with MJ is via his child molestation court cases. Its sad that that is how they remember him (never proven guilty, but guilty by trial by media), and not for ...

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[dolson]

I'm the only one who will admit that I wasn't fanatical about his music and don't really care, huh ?

Every day, it seems, you and I are more and more alike.

Actually, the only songs by Jackson I ever liked were Eat It and Fat, and that's because they weren't by Jackson at all - that was during my huge Weird Al phase as a kid.

[tokenuser]

Every day, it seems, you and I are more and more alike.

Actually, the only songs by Jackson I ever liked were Eat It and Fat, and that's because they weren't by Jackson at all - that was during my huge Weird Al phase as a kid.I have an accoustic version of Billie Jean by Neil Finn that is amazing.

I think MJs music will be covered for a long long time.

[p2a1x7]

I'm the only one who will admit that I wasn't fanatical about his music and don't really care, huh ?

His music wasn't bad, but I didn't listen to it. I don't view this as any loss to society. He hasn't been doing anything special for a long time.

[gm_wil]

The Onion is on top of their game and has an article about MJ.

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/neverland_ranch_investigators?utm_source=most_pop_ dugg

yes, some of his songs are on my all time favorite list, and he was gifted musically . . . and it's horrible that he's gone . . . but nonetheless, this paragraph from the onion article made me chuckle

<<<Vanity Fair reporter Beth Pither visited Neverland in 1994.

"A strangely fearful staff member led me to Jackson, but ran off before I opened the door," Pither said. "Standing there with my hand on an ice-cold doorknob, I heard strange, unnatural sounds—leathery wings flapping, a sorrowful wail, and loud hissing. A wave of dread passed through me as I opened the door, but all I found was Michael and some kids in pajamas eating ice cream and watching 101 Dalmatians.">>>

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[mega-man]

I think MJs music will be covered for a long long time.
I really hope MC's don't start remixing his music and puttin it in their hooks now that he's gone. That'd really take away from it.

Just dug this lil gem out n have been listenin to it for the last hour:
http://twitpic.com/8ickq

[heyseuss]

His music wasn't bad, but I didn't listen to it. I don't view this as any loss to society. He hasn't been doing anything special for a long time.

His music WASN'T that bad, overall. Pop is pop and doesn't interest me. I'll throw an MJ remix on during the peak of a dj'ing set, but I won't and have never listened/owned any of his music on purpose. In 1984, I remember a friend and I trying to moonwalk on beanbags to his music, that's about as close as I got to -enjoying- his stuff. Surprisingly, I've never worked for him, although I worked for Janet and hated the piss outta her.

I met him eons ago. He and I were allowed to privately shop in Sharper Image in Beverly Hills at 11:30pm on Christmas Eve. It was closed to the public and they didn't even have all the lights on in the store. His handler just stood there by the door while he and I roamed the store. The 2 employees just stood there and waited as well, hoping we'd be fast and they could go home. He was nice to me and apart from a cowboy hat and facemask (which he removed from time to time), he was very normal. When he purchased his stuff, he pulled a credit card out himself, and took the bags of stuff himself and when he turned to walk out, his handler got on the phone, and didn't even help MJ with the bags or door. That was the most surprising thing to me, to see. He had several big bags in his hands and just leaned on the door with his forearm and opened it himself.

Death just doesn't bother me that much, especially when it's someone who wasn't currently contributing to society, unlike say, George Carlin, which is a loss. Britney, Backstreet, Madonna, Justin Timberlake and any pop rapper like Jay-Z/Puffy/Snoop, etc... could all drop off the face of the planet and I wouldn't care at all. In fact, in Timberlake, Britney and Backstreet's case, I'd be a little happy.

[trunolimit]

Even though, I'm a more punk/alternative guy, MJ was a pop song writing master. Billie Jean is a pop-music master work, and several others are also awesome. I was a HUGE jackson 5 fan as a kid. (remember, he's (was :( ) only 5 years older than me. He was THE thing.

don't you worry badger I got you covered here is something more your flava. I'm really saddened by this but damn i'm looking forward to all the MJ remakes that will flood the market soon. I love his music and I love what people do with it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDeFYDk8atg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI-0Hgu8mUk

anybody else got cool MJ remakes.

[heyseuss]

Every day, it seems, you and I are more and more alike.

Your backhair is creeping too ?

[heyseuss]

I really hope MC's don't start remixing his music and puttin it in their hooks now that he's gone. That'd really take away from it.

I didn't see this before I posted, as I said, I use alot of remixed MJ for my sets.

[trunolimit]

In light of his passing does anyone have any moments in their life that were effected by Michael Jackson's music. Personally "Thriller" was the first album I ever had on Vinyl. I bought it for $3 from Salvation Army. It's one of my favorite albums and is a true classic. I will miss his music but I donno what happened to him in his later years....

When free willy came out I was obsessed with the end credits song. I think i was 7 or 8 at the time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFli8LgG9ng

[rabidbadger]

Youngster! This was my beloved end credit MJ song when I was that age. Just substiture Killer Whale for killer Rat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwAmpn8ISV0

[trunolimit]

I didn't see this before I posted, as I said, I use alot of remixed MJ for my sets.

could you post some of em?

and as much as I like the original stuff it's always great to hear new stuff. I think it honors him not "take away" as some people put it. Billy Jean is my favorite MJ song and I have yet to hear a remix that comes close to it but Kanye did a really good job,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKiZBlelIzc

although I don't like what he did with the middle part you can't deny that orchestrated opening is sick and I just can't wait to see what people come up with.

[trunolimit]

Youngster! This was my beloved end credit MJ song when I was that age. Just substiture Killer Whale for killer Rat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwAmpn8ISV0

lol. I remember seeing the trailer for that but I never got around to watching that movie. I've wanted to for long time. I think I'll go rent it today.

[trunolimit]

I don't care who you are, EVERYBODY knows a Michael Jackson song. Sure, towards the end he became a freak show but he was one of the greatest entertainers to ever live. He was the definition of 'cultural icon'.

Here's a question to ponder...who's the new King of Pop? I vote for Prince.

what are you basing that on? I only know one prince song "when doves cry." I think prince is a grade one a-hole.

"It's been really disappointing watching how Prince has squandered what had been seen as a enlightened view of how music works in this day and age. Instead of continuing to embrace that, and use it to his advantage, Prince has become fantastically anti-fan, and day-by-day seems to be destroying his reputation. It started with threatening fan sites, quickly followed up by lawsuits against YouTube, eBay and the Pirate Bay, and more recently has involved a bizarre and ill-advised strategy of taking down YouTube videos that he probably had no right to take down. "

rest of the article

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080626/0044421521.shtml

[trunolimit]

I lolled for real.

took me two seconds to get it but damn that was funny

respectfully funny though

RIP MJ

[trunolimit]

Doesn't mean anything. The cost of going forth with the cost of defense could have topped that plus taken years of his life. The man's body, every inch, was photographed multiple times. Have you ANY idea how traumatic that would be for someone who had been so extremely abused as a child? And then to have the details of your most private parts publicly discussed by the media? How could you possibly blame him for trying to protect himself emotionally and mentally?

You clearly don't know what it's like having someone you don't want looking as your most private areas getting up close and personal. Against his will he was having to expose everything, and then let everything be photographed. When this happens to women, there are support groups. When it happened to him, he's faulted for trying to find a way to protect his body from further exposure and public discussion. Thank the gods you've never been molested or raped. He basically was.

If your child was molested, would you want that person to rot in jail forever, or would you settle for suspiciously close to the amount you wanted the accused to invest in some money-making idea? If someone molested my child, they'd better be in jail to keep me from killing them. No amount of money would be worth letting the person who molested my child continue on with a normal life. Anyone who would gladly take money instead of want to keep a molester of the streets is someone I don't trust to be telling the truth.

I was reading your post and at first I was like hey 22 million is a lot of money. My child could be set for the rest of his life but then you got me with that last part. that would mean some other kid might go through it and it would be my fault.

[rabidbadger]

If you DO, rent/watch Willard first, or Ben won't make sense. (and it's a better movie, Ben was the sequal, and MAKE SURE you get the original, not the remake from a few years ago)!!!!

[trunolimit]

If you DO, rent/watch Willard first, or Ben won't make sense. (and it's a better movie, Ben was the sequal, and MAKE SURE you get the original, not the remake from a few years ago)!!!!

wow you just blew my mind. I thought Willard was they only one. I had no idea it had a squeal let alone a remake. I guess I'm not as :cool: as I thought I was.

[satori]

everything he's done is eclipsed by the child molestation stuff. There's a lot of things that I can over look, but that's not one of them.

[rabidbadger]

wow you just blew my mind. I thought Willard was they only one. I had no idea it had a squeal let alone a remake. I guess I'm not as :cool: as I thought I was.

The book "Ratman's Notebooks" from which Willard was made, was the FIRST non children's book I ever read. It inspired my own unfinished novel. "Twisted, A Henchman's notebooks" which struck me after seeing the Batman movie, (with Jack Nicholson) and remembering all the "striped shirt" henchmen of the old batman series I was raised with.

Henchmen were just there to get knocked out, thrown out of buildings, and out of windows, playing canasta between fights. I figured, "who are these guys? Why do they do this?"

15 handwritten in pencil spiral notebooks later, I got a GOOD first draft going on...

I really gotta finish that book.

IN FACT my "rabidbadger" name came from that, the "jim Morrison" inspired supervillian (with a heart of gold, naturally) saves the main charecter.

Damn. Finishing that book is gonna be TOO MUCH WORK. Arghhhh. You Did this too me, Trunolimit!

[dolson]

I have an accoustic version of Billie Jean by Neil Finn that is amazing.

I think MJs music will be covered for a long long time.

I already stated I'm no fan, but if you haven't heard Chris Cornell's Billie Jean cover, check it out. It was tolerable, if not good. You may like it.

[satori]

child molester-molester-molester-molester....

[blacksymbiote]

I have a hard time linking recent MJ with MJ from my childhood. Not only do they look NOTHING alike, but they acted completely differently. One was a pop god, the other was a ghoul who hung babies out of windows. I'm sorry if I offend anyone, I don't mean to, but to me, the real MJ died sometime in the 90's when the body-snatcher killed him and took his place. In a way, I was over his death before he really died.

[bcool]

I've been thinking about that simpsons episode he was in and how weird/awesome that was. His whole life was like a performance art piece about body image. He was definitely committed to what he believed, probably to a fault.

[trunolimit]

The book "Ratman's Notebooks" from which Willard was made, was the FIRST non children's book I ever read. It inspired my own unfinished novel. "Twisted, A Henchman's notebooks" which struck me after seeing the Batman movie, (with Jack Nicholson) and remembering all the "striped shirt" henchmen of the old batman series I was raised with.

Henchmen were just there to get knocked out, thrown out of buildings, and out of windows, playing canasta between fights. I figured, "who are these guys? Why do they do this?"

15 handwritten in pencil spiral notebooks later, I got a GOOD first draft going on...

I really gotta finish that book.

IN FACT my "rabidbadger" name came from that, the "jim Morrison" inspired supervillian (with a heart of gold, naturally) saves the main charecter.

Damn. Finishing that book is gonna be TOO MUCH WORK. Arghhhh. You Did this too me, Trunolimit!

Thats one of the main things I like about the venture brothers. the henchmen are real people and we get to see things from their POV. Book sounds interesting you should finish it.

I tried writing a book once... it was about a dragon...I use to like dragons after seeing The Flight Of Dragons. two paragraphs later I decided writing blows.

[trunolimit]

I've been thinking about that simpsons episode he was in and how weird/awesome that was. His whole life was like a performance art piece about body image. He was definitely committed to what he believed, probably to a fault.

what role did we as a society obsessed with physical appearance play on making recent MJ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx_zvaEQfzk&feature=related

[bcool]

what role did we as a society obsessed with physical appearance play on making recent MJ?



haha, yeah I almost mentioned that. I think there's probably a lot of truth to that.

[heyseuss]

what role did we as a society obsessed with physical appearance play on making recent MJ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx_zvaEQfzk&feature=related

Awesome fcuken vid. Really like the Vangelis ?... Mike Oldfield ? Jean Michael Jarre ? which one was that ? I think it was Oxygene.

[trunolimit]

Awesome fcuken vid. Really like the Vangelis ?... Mike Oldfield ? Jean Michael Jarre ? which one was that ? I think it was Oxygene.

um yeah that's so not the message I wanted to send. I sat and actually watched the whole thing right now and I didn't know that the three kings (great effing movie by the way) dialog cuts off and it turns into that mike morph thing. I'm just saying we as a nation kinda had a hand in what became of this man.

and you know what it's time we change. I'm going to do my part by not making beeping noises every time I'm around a fat chik, and at parties I'll dance with the ugly girls no matter how sober I am. We need to learn from this people, and grow as a nation....for Micheal.

[p2a1x7]

and you know what it's time we change. I'm going to do my part by not making beeping noises every time I'm around a fat chik

You seriously do that?

[trunolimit]

You seriously do that?

No but I think about it which us just as bad

[mega-man]

I'm going to do my part by not making beeping noises every time I'm around a fat chik
LMAO what beeping noises do people make around fat girlz??

[heyseuss]

LMAO what beeping noises do people make around fat girlz??

I think it's that warning sound trucks make when backing up. DANGER - Long Wide Load !

[mega-man]

I think it's that warning sound trucks make when backing up. DANGER - Long Wide Load !
HAHAHA That's a good one, I'm gonna use it... j/k
I didn't know people actually did that...

[trunolimit]

just had to share this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELyTBXzfQJ8&feature=player_embedded

had me rolling all morning

[mega-man]

just had to share this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELyTBXzfQJ8&feature=player_embedded

had me rolling all morning
I was introduced to this yesterday by a friend. SOOOO Funny