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baylorod

07-18-2009, 10:00 PM

phatlip

07-18-2009, 11:09 PM

heyseuss

07-19-2009, 02:32 AM

Thread title <--------------------------------------------------------> What you actually posted.

masherscf

07-19-2009, 02:47 AM

I think you may discover that posting stuff about violating the EULA of Apple software along with other unsupported acts is probably against the TOC of that forum. I would have deleted it too.

darknessgp

07-19-2009, 05:39 AM

I like to help people with their computer issues. So, I went on the Apple Support Discussion forums and suggested they build their own Mac compatible PCs. Within 5 minutes, my discussion was DELETED like it never existed :(

yep. And if you went onto Microsoft's support forums and posted saying people should steal their OS via some known method, your post would get deleted too... and you'd probably get your account banned.

masherscf is correct.

guytheninja

07-19-2009, 06:49 AM

yep. And if you went onto Microsoft's support forums and posted saying people should steal their OS via some known method, your post would get deleted too... and you'd probably get your account banned.

masherscf is correct.

What is so interesting about this is that you buy the PC legally, you buy the EFIX module legally, and you buy the Mac OS legally. Somehow, when you put all these things together, you get your post deleted.

I won't be surprised if Apple tries to sue this EFIX company out of existence. The future of apple computing is going to be very interesting given the existence of EFIX and like companies.

computoman

07-19-2009, 07:01 AM

Cracking up laughing reading this thread. Glad I run linux and bsd.

tokenuser

07-19-2009, 12:56 PM

What is so interesting about this is that you buy the PC legally, you buy the EFIX module legally, and you buy the Mac OS legally. Except for that pesky license agreement ... that restricts you to running it only on Apple hardware (because, first and foremost Apple is a hardware company).

Oh yeah ... you can't export it to a list of countries either. I guess thats because "those" countries only have Hackintosh hardware available.

Cracking up laughing reading this thread. Glad I run linux and bsd.Funny enough, the machine I am using is based off a BSD kernel as well.

computoman

07-20-2009, 01:19 AM

Funny enough, the machine I am using is based off a BSD kernel as well.

But I do not need any fancy hardware or special installs to run bsd.

computoman

07-20-2009, 01:24 AM

Except for that pesky license agreement ... that restricts you to running it only on Apple hardware (because, first and foremost Apple is a hardware company).

If you look at the license closely, it says "on a ... Apple-labeled computer". Technically you could get a apple label from an old mac and slap it on there or even better build your machine in an old apple case. It would be apple labeled! I did not see in the license where it specifically stated what an apple labeled machine is. Get a label with a picture of an macapple on it.

I do not run osx anymore even on apple labeled machines.

masherscf

07-20-2009, 01:40 AM

If you look at the license closely, it says "on a ... Apple-labeled computer". Technically you could get a apple label from an old mac and slap it on there or even better build your machine in an old apple case. It would be apple labeled! I did not see in the license where it specifically stated what an apple labeled machine is. Get a label with a picture of an macapple on it.

I do not run osx anymore even on apple labeled machines.

They might read the agreement not as something labeled with an Apple, but something labeled by Apple.

phatlip

07-20-2009, 03:35 AM

But I do not need any fancy hardware or special installs to run bsd.

Neither do I. I can run Linux and BSD on my Macbook too.

I like Apple hardware and software. I have no problem sticking to Apple and their guidelines. I bought this computer because I like it. I'm a consumer, that gives you and I a choice. I'm happy with what I use, you're happy with what you use. There's is no envy, because again- I'm happy with my Mac and can run the SAME EXACT stuff you're running on the same machine.

What's so funny again?

computoman

07-20-2009, 03:51 AM

They might read the agreement not as something labeled with an Apple, but something labeled by Apple.

Then they should have written a better agreement. The current license is a bit more specific than even older ones though.

computoman

07-20-2009, 03:54 AM

Neither do I. I can run Linux and BSD on my Macbook too.

I like Apple hardware and software. I have no problem sticking to Apple and their guidelines. I bought this computer because I like it. I'm a consumer, that gives you and I a choice. I'm happy with what I use, you're happy with what you use. There's is no envy, because again- I'm happy with my Mac and can run the SAME EXACT stuff you're running on the same machine.

What's so funny again?

You know the issue was about osx bsd not native bsd. We ran linux and bsd on macs too before we dumped them. Been there done that. For that matter I have run apple os on a frankin, umax and an atari st all legally. Whoopie whoopie.

phatlip

07-20-2009, 03:56 AM

You know the issue was about osx bsd not native bsd. We ran linux and bsd on macs too before we dumped them. Been there done that. For that matter I have run apple os on a frankin, umax and an atari st. Whoopie whoopie.

I understand this. But you were acting as if you were better than thou because you can run Linux and BSD. So can Mac users. That and they obviously felt the Mac was a worthwhile purchase- they were willing to spend the money on one.

Your issues seems like sort of a non issue.

blacksunproject

07-20-2009, 04:08 AM

Hey Patrick,

Great Hackintosh segment.
This will save me mucho money,

Plus,

There is nothing sexier than a woman that knows her tech!
If Colleen is single, there are many guys who will definitely want to hook-up with her. If she's taken, there are many broken hearts out there.

Thanks to all, keep up the great work.

radzack

07-20-2009, 10:54 AM

custome machine running osx > macpro

phatlip

07-20-2009, 04:39 PM

custome machine running osx > macpro

One thing worth noting is every Hackintosh I've ever come across has a VERY VERY slow boot up time. I'm not sure if that's any different with the method they used on Tekzilla. They did fast-forward past the boot up which makes me believe it still has that same problem. Not sure though. Probably a question I should ask in the Tekzilla forums.

revision3fan

07-20-2009, 09:15 PM

I like to help people with their computer issues. So, I went on the Apple Support Discussion forums and suggested they build their own Mac compatible PCs. Within 5 minutes, my discussion was DELETED like it never existed :(

Something similar happened concerning Creative Labs' SoundBlaster audio cards when Windows Vista was released. Someone on their discussion boards posted software(?) that was better than the drivers for the pre-Vista SoundBlaster cards. That time all of this person's postings, software AND identity were erased.

What is so interesting about this is that you buy the PC legally, you buy the EFIX module legally, and you buy the Mac OS legally. Somehow, when you put all these things together, you get your post deleted.

I won't be surprised if Apple tries to sue this EFIX company out of existence. The future of apple computing is going to be very interesting given the existence of EFIX and like companies.

The problem is that you are not buying the MAC OS. You are purchasing the license agreement. You will not be owning own the OS after the purchase.

Oh yeah ... you can't export it to a list of countries either. I guess thats because "those" countries only have Hackintosh hardware available.

German manufacturer PearC (https://www.pearc.de/). From their web site FAQ:

"According to european laws Apples EULA is void, because customers can't read the End Users License Agreement not before buying and opening the product."

Isn't this what happened to Sony four years ago because their CD's were installing copy protection software before the user had a chance to accept the license agreement.

And does the US have this? Somewhere?

revision3fan

07-20-2009, 09:28 PM

One thing worth noting is every Hackintosh I've ever come across has a VERY VERY slow boot up time. I'm not sure if that's any different with the method they used on Tekzilla. They did fast-forward past the boot up which makes me believe it still has that same problem. Not sure though. Probably a question I should ask in the Tekzilla forums.

It may have to do with the EFi-X having to be connected to a USB port.

phatlip

07-20-2009, 10:12 PM

It may have to do with the EFi-X having to be connected to a USB port.

Actually, the whole EFi-X thing is new to me. I never read of it being done that way. So slow boot times may not be that much of an issue. Again, I'm not entirely sure because they fast forwarded through the boot.

I think I'll email the show and ask. :)

masherscf

07-20-2009, 11:19 PM

There is nothing sexier than a woman that knows her tech!
If Colleen is single, there are many guys who will definitely want to hook-up with her. If she's taken, there are many broken hearts out there.

Thanks to all, keep up the great work.

That's dripping with misogyny.

I suspect that the chances of "hooking-up" with Colleen are approximately the same no matter her relationship status. Indeed, forum peeps probably have a better chance of hooking up with Patrick Norton... and he's married.

radzack

07-21-2009, 03:02 AM

I suspect that the chances of "hooking-up" with Colleen are approximately the same no matter her relationship status. Indeed, forum peeps probably have a better chance of hooking up with Patrick Norton... and he's married.

spit out tea. thanks :) -- forwarding to her...

blacksunproject

07-21-2009, 03:20 AM

That's dripping with misogyny.

I suspect that the chances of "hooking-up" with Colleen are approximately the same no matter her relationship status. Indeed, forum peeps probably have a better chance of hooking up with Patrick Norton... and he's married.

She's still "super attractive" because she's got a brain for tech.
Beauty may be "skin-deep", but, so is tech.

phatlip

07-21-2009, 03:21 AM

This thread got weird pretty fast.

magnus33

07-23-2009, 04:41 AM

Most apple users would go hey that's cool.

Just the same as any pc user would be.

The problem starts is some mac users can be really touchy and fanatical (99.9% perfectly normal people).

They seem to assume everything is a attack on them and apple.

Very weird and impossible to understand i think.

In this case the mods's on apple were just probably keeping the forum apple products only.
That being perfectly understandable.

computoman

07-25-2009, 08:55 AM

Most traditional operating systems will go by the way side. There will be a generic engine built in like the bios and you will run a virtual os instead.

secret-steve-crumbles

07-30-2009, 03:47 PM

What's so funny again?You spent 10 times as much?

phatlip

07-30-2009, 04:31 PM

You spent 10 times as much?

What's the problem with that Mr. free market/capitalism?

You know what else? People who own Ferraris also paid more than those with Honda Civics.

Also, the Mac I bought was no where near 10 times as much as other computers. At the time actually, I could get a PC laptop with the exact same specs as my Macbook for almost the same price- even CHEAPER in some cases. The prices differences isn't as close now though, but it was when I got it back in 06.

bobv13

07-30-2009, 07:12 PM

The nerd in me tells me that it would be so cool to have tripple boot system, Linux, Windows and OSX. I just wish I could get it to boot as a PS3 or maybe a Wii too.

phatlip

07-30-2009, 08:11 PM

The nerd in me tells me that it would be so cool to have tripple boot system, Linux, Windows and OSX. I just wish I could get it to boot as a PS3 or maybe a Wii too.

That actually had a lot to do with me getting my Macbook. I liked the idea of being able to easily switch between the three on one laptop.

This was back in 06 though when the x86 project was just starting out, and the idea of running anything other than OS X on a Mac was very new.

EDIT

*Well, except Linux. You could do that. Windows was a different story though. *