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inertia53
07-29-2009, 05:08 PM
Wondering what people think of Peter Jackson's thoughts on original content as said in the LA Times:

GB: Certainly, it's a place to introduce the new and celebrate the past, but I suppose what I was suggesting is that these days it seems difficult to make a big special-effects film unless it's based on some pre-existing, known quantity in pop-culture, such as a novel, comic book, video game, TV show, toy line or previous movie. You look at the Harry Potter films, "Iron Man," "Star Trek," "Transformers"...


PJ:I mean, personally I think that’s one of the most depressing things about the film industry generally today. The writers and directors should be blamed just as much as the studios because really everything seems to be a remake or adapting a 1970s TV show that was never particularly good. Why anyone thinks that it would be a good feature film now, you know, goodness knows why. And I guess it’s easy to say it's security that you know a studio is only prepared to put $150 million or $200 million into something if it’s a known quantity. But at the same time I’m also aware that audiences are getting fed up with the lack of original ideas and original stories. And if you look back to the great days of "Star Wars" and "Indiana Jones" and those sorts of movies, they weren’t based on TV shows, they weren’t based on comics. They were inspired by them and they had DNA in them which came from years of Flash Gordon and various things in the past but nonetheless they were original. And yet we seem to be incapable as a general industry, which includes not just the studios but the filmmakers and writers and directors, we seem to be incapable of doing that now for some reason. It’s a little bit depressing. But hopefully it’s a cycle. Everything in the film business tends to be cyclic and hopefully this all drains itself out in a couple years and we’ll be back into original stories again.

See the whole interview here: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/herocomplex/2009/07/peter-jackson-movie-fans-are-fed-up-with-the-lack-of-original-ideas.html

az0madman
07-29-2009, 07:47 PM
This coming from the man who directed Lord of the Rings and King Kong?

The thing about these ideas based off existing properties is that if it's a good movie, people generally don't care. And we're at this point with technology that we can embellish on these classics by giving it a look that is as realistic as it's suppose to seem in the source material. It's giving fans that "what if it were real" sort of experience.

Plus, I wouldn't say there's a lack of original ideas. They just tend to get overshadowed by these blockbuster titles and sequels.

bjkrautk
07-29-2009, 08:53 PM
This coming from the man who directed Lord of the Rings and King Kong?


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On the other hand, I think there is some degree of truth that Hollywood has become rather risk-averse when it comes to blockbuster films. And with good reason; why take the risk on a new IP (e.g. Hancock), when a known IP carries a fanbase with it?


That isn't to say that original IP movies are impossible to make; PJ himself has a production credit on "District 9" (which is most likely coloring his view on the process), and James Cameron still gets to do "Avatar" ...because Cameron himself is the commodity (from Titanic to Terminator, he's a relatively safe investment).
It's a business calculation: the licensing cost for an established IP, weighed against the necessary marketing budget to sell a new IP.

lorddust
07-29-2009, 10:00 PM
I'm one of those people that is fed up with the lack of original ideas. But i can see the studio's dilemma. It is like that for video games and books and everything. And this is the way it gonna be for the foreseeable future. There will always be people willing to try new stuff and put it out there. Those of us who like this kind of stuff have learned where to look and that is where stuff like TRS comes in.

Original content is still there we've just learned to take the back roads and alleyways instead of mainstreet.

cwilkey
07-29-2009, 10:16 PM
I do agree with Mr. Jackson, especially after seeing Moon, which cost 5 million to get made. If we put an emphasis on quality storytelling and great, innovative directing then there is little to lose in terms of investment.

Turning classic stories into great films is fine, but when they are simply trying to capitalize on my childhood (Street Fighter, G.I. JOE) with crap films it makes me sick.

I also have been feeling this way with the sh!t that was Transformers 2 and what will be G.I. Joe..

masherscf
07-29-2009, 10:35 PM
I think that Jackson Prior experience with LOTR and King Kong only makes him more qualified to comment on this issue. That being said, the box office success of "unoriginal' work is not consistent with the statement.

Although, I feel that the members of this forum don't adhere to this generalization. I submit that the mainstream of the 15-25 movie going audience, having few other entertainment options, don't give a shit what the movies are about as long as it gets them out of the house. Which makes things like quality and originality pretty meaningless.

echome
07-30-2009, 01:17 AM
Well I do love many of the movies with a background in the comicbooks and do not think it is so important if it is an original story og not - more if the movie is any good.

Always nice to watch something new or just something with a different view. That is what keeps making me pay for tickets...

tsmith15
07-30-2009, 01:43 AM
He's just trying to tell people what to think, which "coincidentally" will also make them all want to go see District 9. Money-grab, because fans are obviously not fed up considering how much $ sequels make.

masherscf
07-30-2009, 01:57 AM
You're right. The statement is just posturing for his new film.

satori
07-30-2009, 03:59 PM
I'd like to see more great sci-fi books made into movies... not classics like IRobot, but great sci fi books that could stand some touch ups... I offer up the Stainless Steel Rat by Harry Harrison, that book totally needs a movie done and would be an amazing trip with lots of effects. The Comic book version of it printed in the late 1970s in the weekly book '2000 A.D.' was fantastic.

darknessgp
07-30-2009, 04:36 PM
I think that Jackson Prior experience with LOTR and King Kong only makes him more qualified to comment on this issue. That being said, the box office success of "unoriginal' work is not consistent with the statement.
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yea. I'd say his argument is not just "unoriginal ideas" but also bad implementation. LotR and King Kong were unoriginal ideas, but the movies were very well made. I'd see more of his argument being for stuff like the droves of superhero movies and remakes that are not very good quality and whose success is only from people who liked the material it is based on. i.e. Film makers are going with old IPs, but are taking minimal effort because they know it'll turn a decent profit.

As for a "money grab" for District 9... I was sold on the movie when I saw the first trailer, even not knowing Jackson was tied to it.