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johnferrigno
08-03-2009, 04:29 AM
I ask becuase it seems to me that lately his comics are about nothing. It's just the Avengers sitting around talking. About the same thing, every month, over and over again. It's like a Seinfeld episode, but without the laughs.

I feel like Bendis went into Quesada's office and said "What if the Avengers are waiting for a table in a Chinese restaurant and the whole episode is them talking?" Quesada, in his infinite wisdom, said "Make it the Savage Land instead of a chinese restaurant and you got a deal!"

Maybe I'm missing something, but I just think he has become a bad parody of himself. I used to love the issues when it was characters talking, but only when it was a break from an actual story, or an important conversation that moved the story forward or gave important information. I couldn't get enough of this kind of thing in Daredevil. But in Avengers, it is just boring me to tears.

It doesn't seem like that long ago when a bendis title was my "Can't wait, must read NOW!" comic that went right to the top of my stack. Now, reading one is like pulling teeth. And it kind of makes me sad.

conorkilpatrick
08-03-2009, 04:41 AM
That's a complaint that had dogged Bendis since he started writing Marvel Comics. Nothing has changed except perhaps the readerships' interest in his style.

I love it.

johnferrigno
08-03-2009, 01:25 PM
That's a complaint that had dogged Bendis since he started writing Marvel Comics. Nothing has changed except perhaps the readerships' interest in his style.

I love it.

That's the thing that is bothering me, because usually I love it too. I think my problem isn't so much what happens in the book. I think it is that the exact same scene will appear in more than one book. The first time I read Norman Osbourn's media interview segment in Dark Avengers, I thought it was riveting. But then the exact same scene was in another book (New Avengers, I think?) and it made me angry. I had already shelled out my $3 for that scene. I wanted something new in a different book.

In the past, during Daredevil and the early issues of New Avengers, I thought it was a great technique. It added realism and deeper characterization to the stories. I wanted entire issues of Daredevil where Sammie Silk just BSed with kingpin's men. I wanted an entire series called "Avengers Red Tape" where they just went over the minutea of their charter.

But lately, it seems like he is just padded the stories with the same stuff over and over to makes his page count.

comicbookchris
08-03-2009, 03:52 PM
Nah, if he was modeling his scripts after Seinfeld, the plot points would be involving neurotic heroes obsessing over trivial matters, like the characters do on the show.

Not that I'm complaining. Seinfeld cracks me up.

gobo
08-03-2009, 04:14 PM
Nah, if he was modeling his scripts after Seinfeld, the plot points would be involving neurotic heroes obsessing over trivial matters, like the characters do on the show.

Not that I'm complaining. Seinfeld cracks me up.

Like Bucky complaining about people making a mess in his apartment?

siraim
08-03-2009, 04:55 PM
For the most part, the dialog is enjoyable. Bendis keeps the wit and humor going through his books and I appreciate that. I think what keeps me going in New Avengers is seeing where the arc is taking the cast. As much as I've enjoyed the Dark Reign as a whole, I'm starting to feel the same way I did earlier this summer about Blackest Night. Just get on with it.

Stop hinting that Norman is going to take a major fall.. stop hinting that every other member of the Dark Avengers or Thunderbolts wants to undermine the order of the team.. just get on with it. I can forgive the dialog because I enjoy it.. but I wish the meandering got us closer to the close of an arc more quickly.

That being said, I only got back into comics a few years ago and the first two set of trades I made my way through were Ultimate Spider-Man and Powers. Seeing a good chunk of both of those stories popping up in the current Bendis stuff has been interesting. The power drainer in last weeks New Avengers stuck out like a sore thumb and made me cringe a little bit..

comicbookchris
08-03-2009, 05:10 PM
Like Bucky complaining about people making a mess in his apartment?

Or like Luke Cage complaining on how Spider-Man talks too close to his face.

gabeja
08-04-2009, 03:55 AM
I feel Bendis could have done a bang up job writing for seinfeld myself.

johnferrigno
08-04-2009, 01:17 PM
Or like Luke Cage complaining on how Spider-Man talks too close to his face.

Now I'm going to picture Judge Reinhold under the mask. Thanks a lot!