Episode 76: Zip Tie Escape [Discussion]

[travislopes]

Learn how to use a zip tie for breaking and entering!

Watch and download here. (http://revision3.com/scamschool/dmartin)

[erikboles]

...a good friend is a police officer. I tried this trick with him. He immediately said "no, lay your wrists flat on each other, crossed at the wrist". he wouldn't let me get away with the other way, and said that is a component of officer training, to watch for things like that.

Still awesome for parties where your friends aren't paying attention...

E

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[shwooddotcom]

...a good friend is a police officer. I tried this trick with him. He immediately said "no, lay your wrists flat on each other, crossed at the wrist". he wouldn't let me get away with the other way, and said that is a component of officer training, to watch for things like that.

Still awesome for parties where your friends aren't paying attention...

E

http://twitter.com/ErikBoles

That's good news as far as I'm concerned. Last thing we need is someone to escape from the cops and blame us... :-)

[masterevilace]

Both these were pretty obvious. Anyone who has played with an open door that had the knob locked would know how the door one works.

Of course, though... Brian needs a show so he wouldn't call his friend out like that during a taping :P

[hellhound]

yeah... I gotta agree... this one was "fairly" obvious (from someone that has gotten drunk and couldnt find door keys WAY too many times, but I'm a Pro now w/ using a knife to draw back a door latch). The gap in that door was obscene, musta been more than a 1/4 inch gap. A bent paperclip coulda gotten behind that. BTW, almost everyone has some heavy plastic insurance card/creditcard/old ID that U can cut a small notch out of w/ any BS pocket knife/keyring knife/scissors to get behind the latch (if its not a "deep" latch where there is no exposed angle to the latch mechanism to manipulate. Then I guess U'd need to try and pick the actual tumbler.

Even tho I noticed the vertical position of the wrists and hoped there was something else needed for the escape... guess its good to know that "thats enuff to escape". Keep having him on.. Even tho it didnt "Blow My Mind".. It was a fun watch w/ good production quality, w/ some good people/personalities.. Good Stuff.

PS: I still think JRY was born in Kenya and wanna see a Birth Certificate if he runs for Pres. :) We F Your S, G!

[rabidbadger]

Gotta love that the "(don't really) escape from cop's" episode reviewing the handcuffs, thumbcuffs eps, and now this zip ties ep) has a sponsor that uses "handcuffs as scare tactic" in their graphic. Do they even watch? LOL

[bsdaemon]

I can't see any practical use for zip ties in opening doors. Someone already noted that that was an obscenely large gap. It needs to be. Not only do you need to get the zip tie in and get leverage, but the gap needs to be wide enough that the anti-jimmy mechanism doesn't work. Door latches only move freely when the little metal rod behind them is flush with the end of the latch. Once the door closes, that rod is held back, and the latch doesn't move. And even beyond that, house doors generally open in, which means that the latch itself is blocked by the door jamb, which means that you can't slip a credit card or zip tie in, regardless.

Sincerely,
The Buzz Killing Pedant

[rabidbadger]

eh, not pendantic at all. All good points.

[murphy1d]

Sincerely,
The Buzz Killing Pedant

The one thing I was able to garner was that this was not an episode on how to break into any and all doors. It obviously works on simple doors, such as the ones used for storage (where many open out).

The general knowledge of how doors and locks work have come in handy on several occasions, so I appreciate this type of lesson. If you were wanting to learn to make a Bump Key, that's a different website and a different lesson.

[kheiron]

I must be honest and say that I was left feeling a little disappointed with this episode.
Not the tricks themselves as they were both potentially useful, if used in the right circumstance and if everything just happened to go your way at the time.

My gripe is predominantly with the fact that they chose the 'take' they did.
I know they do multiple takes on this show, so I honestly can't understand why they'd use one that quite blatantly showed what was happening with regards to the cuffing.
Not only did Dan make it obvious when he put his arms together, he made it even more obvious when Brian pulled it tight, just in the way he bent forward at the same time.
Since this is television (well, sorta) I feel they should have done a take where Dan looked more relaxed while being cuffed. Even if it means that the cable ties would have been slightly looser, nobody would really have known anyway and it wouldn't have looked as blatant.

Based on the above, the fact that Brian pretended to be confused as to how the escape was done was a little annoying. We all know he could tell the second it started.

And to those who were complaining about the gap in the door being so big, I assume that was somewhat intentional to make it easier to show you what was actually taking place.

[footsoldier]

its a good trick but a lot of doors dont work.
dan martins stuffs amazing

[imagish]

My gripe is predominantly with the fact that they chose the 'take' they did.
I know they do multiple takes on this show, so I honestly can't understand why they'd use one that quite blatantly showed what was happening with regards to the cuffing.
Not only did Dan make it obvious when he put his arms together, he made it even more obvious when Brian pulled it tight, just in the way he bent forward at the same time.
Since this is television (well, sorta) I feel they should have done a take where Dan looked more relaxed while being cuffed. Even if it means that the cable ties would have been slightly looser, nobody would really have known anyway and it wouldn't have looked as blatant.

Based on the above, the fact that Brian pretended to be confused as to how the escape was done was a little annoying. We all know he could tell the second it started.

There was a take where I was slammed against the wall Good Cop/Bad Cop style but it was deemed inappropriate...BTW for thinner door gaps (I know the one we used had a gap like Letterman's teeth) you can also use a wire hanger!

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