View Full Version : 'IPTV/Video on demand' and You: An Open Discussion.
j3ff5a
10-02-2006, 04:15 AM
Where would you like to see the IPTV/VOD thing go?
Personally, I think we need more revision3s in the world. They've got the right idea. Specialized content and less ridiculous censorship means more of what YOU (as a single viewer, not as a wide demographic of white/black/hispanic teen/adult/middle-aged males/females) want when you want it. I think that if this catches on, we really could be throwing out our TVs (unless they're HD monitors, of course) and spending most of our time with net-channels of on demand content.
Toss in your thoughts.:)
There is no doubt in my mind that this is the next big thing, if it's not already. Soon there will be more shows, more channels etc, and people will either have big monitors for watching, or have there computers connected to there HD Tv's.
It's an amazing new thing!
ramzis-hairy-chest
10-02-2006, 04:48 AM
I really see IPTV and VOD as something that's really catching on. I think the only two roadblocks are that the majority of people are not very tech savvy when it comes to these things. The 2nd roadblock is that there are a lot of people that don't have super-duper bandwidth to download videos.
EDIT: I hope to see Revision3 take over Fox, NBC, ABC and CBS/Viacom one day.
mseifullah
10-02-2006, 06:00 AM
I support the ideas of IPTV/VOD.
The only thing that I think it's missing right now is that traditional "let's what's on" that you get when you turn on the television. But of course I have ideas about that stuff already mapped out in my head...let me tell you about them:
I think the next step is to 'tag' the content, and through the magic of web development, have an interface that produces a 24/7 personal playlist of content based on your own editable collection of tagged terms (and other little preferences). You'd have your very own personal tv channel :)
And then, to take it a step further, you could have multiple but seperate collections of tagged terms. This would create "channels" for you. So all of a sudden you're flipping through your own 'personalized' tv networks to see whats on.
Of course, all of the advantages of IPTV/VOD would still be there though; like having an rss/xml link for your channels, going directly to something you want to watch anywhere in your playlist, and of course, downloading the content as well.
I hope that's the direction things are going in though because as it stands right now, every night I turn the monitor towards my bed, go to Google Video and enter a search term (usually "9/11") with the search operator "duration:long." I turn on the continous play option and fall asleep in bed to video after video.
It's almost like what I described above except all the videos have something to do with the *one* thing I searched for instead of being able to pull together a playlist based on multiple terms.
nextgenxbox
10-02-2006, 06:19 AM
Like mseifullah said... there needs to be some way to better organize/download shows rather than just downloading them from Rev3 to our HDDs... there's gotta be some GUI or something that makes it seem like TV but not TV.
tylergalli
10-02-2006, 07:36 AM
IPTV is great, it's good for viewers because they have extra content to watch, and it's good for producers because there's now an outlet for their content.
However, I don't believe it's the future of media at all. Unless the big players (ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX) start producing content for the web, it will never be replacing my TV. The offerings just aren't as good.
linktree
10-02-2006, 08:38 AM
The thing that I really like about IPTV is that you can C it everywhere, I dont leave in the US and mayshows we get to see far after they broadcast in the US or elsewhere - with IPTV it doesnt matter where I live - I can get it where I want it and when I want it - so for me its mainlly a way to make content international.
ramzis-hairy-chest
10-02-2006, 08:45 AM
The thing that I really like about IPTV is that you can C it everywhere, I dont leave in the US and mayshows we get to see far after they broadcast in the US or elsewhere - with IPTV it doesnt matter where I live - I can get it where I want it and when I want it - so for me its mainlly a way to make content international.
So true. Forget about all that NTSC <--> PAL conversions. Getting the right codec is much easier.
rabidbadger
10-02-2006, 12:45 PM
mseifullah, you might like this:
democracy (http://www.getdemocracy.com/)
I want to kill my tv, I watch maybe two hours of network tv per week, everything else is online. The real issue here is money. Angel investors didn't give Rev3 tons of money just so they can give it to them again a year from now. They gave it so they get more money back later, and that only means one thing...
Advertising.
Exactly what I avoid regular tv for...
j3ff5a
10-02-2006, 07:54 PM
I wouldn't mind ads as long as they're somewhat directed...
I don't think there should be any, unless there like almost hidden, or the end of a show or something like that.
j3ff5a
10-02-2006, 08:00 PM
Consider TWiT. The (recently added) Adverts that begin/interrupt the show aren't too intrusive, though you have a point with keeping them as bookends. I said I don't mind ads, but i would mind more than 1 (and would prefer zero) commercial break(s)
[btw that was a horrible slaughter of sentence structure]
samureye
10-02-2006, 08:14 PM
The future is not throwing out televisions but rather bringing the content to them. Part of the problem is that we have to go get the content, it's tedious, even with RSS. I stopped listening to TWiT for a while because it was troublesome for me. So the real future would be when we can get these shows on television, as opposed to solely on the PC, that would be great.
One thing that would be useful is having dynamic advertisments, so even if you are now downloading the first episode of diggnation, you will have up to date ads in it. How this will happen is beyond me. As for being able to have personalized vidcast stations, I'd say we're well on our way (www.getdemocracy.com/) to that happening.
i love that program, its really amazing work.
mseifullah
10-03-2006, 01:59 AM
Thanks for recommending that program, it's definately going in the direction I was thinking about. And i'm glad to see that it's open source; can't wait to tear into it.
ramzis-hairy-chest
10-03-2006, 04:47 AM
May not be directly related to IPTV, but I like how AdultSwim is willing to broadcast their shows for free on their site. I wish more networks will follow suit.
http://www.adultswim.com/adultswimfix/index.jsp
Metalocalypse. \m/
j3ff5a
10-03-2006, 06:06 AM
absolutely. I wish a major network would have the balls to premiere an episode online first and on television after, just once or twice. though it'd be impractical, it'd draw a lot of attention to your video on demand service/your storefront in itunes.
but looking back, that would just be stupid. nevermind.
give me a break, it's 2am.
rabidbadger
10-03-2006, 11:39 PM
absolutely. I wish a major network would have the balls to premiere an episode online first and on television after, just once or twice. though it'd be impractical, it'd draw a lot of attention to your video on demand service/your storefront in itunes.
but looking back, that would just be stupid. nevermind.
give me a break, it's 2am.
Actually, I'm pretty sure some networks have tried that with select shows. Can't recall which exactly, but I read after the fact that it was reasonably succesful.