Cooking?

[mattthecomputergeek]

Edit: ( I didn't think i was goin to rant but i guess i did)

I was thinking that it would be would be cool if revision 3 did some type of healthy cooking show. what do you guys think of this idea?, I know most of you will say no/idn/it would not work blah blah blah.... put away you geek side and think, rev3 needs to have more then just technology related shows.

Mainstream t.v. is slowly but surely creeping into the internet making sure every bit of it makes them money in some way, and sooner or later rev3 will have to compete with t.v. shows that will get a millions views verses there shows that get couple hundred thousand or more, look on youtube all those hulu clips that get millions of views. I dislike hulu anyway there not available in Canada yet #$!^&@), I remember reading on there website and i quote "We here you Canada" if there were really listing they would shift into fore wheel drive to get some tracktion and get the stupid copy write crap out of the way. I'm so glad revision 3 dose not do the mainstream licensing cr@p if you guys do i'm gone, i know you wouldn't but I'm just saying.

I'm just getting tired of geeke shows, don't get me wrong i love me some diggreel, diggnation, and tekzilla but have some variety. i know two or three shows(one of which i liked) where canceled, because they were not getting the amount of views they needed to be viable. but still try some thing different it doesn't hurt. nothing fancy at first but if it takes off, roll with it and spice it up.

Now that i think fo it there is one really good show on Rev3beta i forget what it is called but it is updated regularly. but you guys have done nothing(which i seen) to use it potential and make it an official show and bring in more viewers.

[darknessgp]

I'd really like to see a GOOD web cooking show and not necessarily a completely serious one. The internet had Starvin' with Louis (cheap-ass cooking) and Pro at Cooking. But both have just stopped doing it. Ctrl Alt Chicken was a decent show, and I wish it went longer so that it could find it's spot. Can any one suggest any other web cooking shows out there that are worth checking out?

I'd love to see Rev3 really do a cooking show and do it with a new cast. I definitely don't want to see "Cooking with X" where X is some existing Rev3 host. Not because I wouldn't enjoy it, but because I think for such a show to really work it needs to have someone that actually cares about doing it and not just have a random available host getting thrown on it.

[tokenuser]

I have mixed views on this.

One one hand, I would like to support Rev3 more, and a cooking show is something I might be interested in (I enjoy cooking, and am the primary cook in the house) if it were done right.

CAC was on the right track - even if their results often left a little to be desired. Pity Alex and Heather had other projects and moved on.

BUT, this is the internet.

With an appropriate feed aggregator (be it iTunes, Miro, or a generic RSS feed) does it really matter what the source was?

Leo Laporte could do a TWiC (This Week in Cooking ... TWiF is already taken), Zack Luye ("Bottles, Blends and Brews" and "Adagio TV") has experimented with some cooking shows concepts too, and there is a ton of other talent out there if you go hunting for it.

The days of a single source of information/entertainment are over.

Roll your own network :)

[mattthecomputergeek]

I know but i would like to see something that is consistent, done an a regular basis, recorded with a decent camera not with a cell phone or camera from the 80's. I would love to do this my self. I have the equipment to but i am broke and my mother is not always going to let me cook.(yes i live at home i'm only 20) and , it would be noise and somebody would always be in the way.

I just think that if rev 3 add shows it dose not always need to be technology related, yes some rev3 staff are from the days of techtv, and yes a lot of rev3 staff probably have back grounds in technology field. but still freshen up your line up of shows with something new and original

[darknessgp]

I know but i would like to see something that is consistent, done an a regular basis, recorded with a decent camera not with a cell phone or camera from the 80's. I would love to do this my self. I have the equipment to but i am broke and my mother is not always going to let me cook.(yes i live at home i'm only 20) and , it would be noise and somebody would always be in the way.

I just think that if rev 3 add shows it dose not always need to be technology related, yes some rev3 staff are from the days of techtv, and yes a lot of rev3 staff probably have back grounds in technology field. but still freshen up your line up of shows with something new and original

I agree with you to a point, the problem with a lot of shows on the net is that they are inconsistent and don't have proper equipment.

tokenuser, what other cooking shows are on the net? You mentioned that Leo could do one and Luye who experimented, but didn't mention any existing shows. The key thing for me is not that Rev3 picks up or starts a cooking show, but rather that a consistent good cooking show is available in some form. I'm tired of seeing some really good content get killed because they didn't have anyone backing them up.

[tokenuser]

tokenuser, what other cooking shows are on the net? You mentioned that Leo could do one and Luye who experimented, but didn't mention any existing shows.People might diss iTunes, but its a great source for finding new podcast (audio and video) on a whole range of subjects.

All podcasts on iTunes with "Cooking" in description (http://ax.search.itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZSearch.woa/wa/search?entity=podcast&media=podcast&page=1&restrict=true&startIndex=0&term=cooking)

[darknessgp]

People might diss iTunes, but its a great source for finding new podcast (audio and video) on a whole range of subjects.

All podcasts on iTunes with "Cooking" in description (http://ax.search.itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZSearch.woa/wa/search?entity=podcast&media=podcast&page=1&restrict=true&startIndex=0&term=cooking)

I have iTunes installed on a virtual machine solely for syncing my iPhone... I diss iTunes because it's a bloated POS... just sayin'. I'll have to check it out whenever I get home and able to access my virtual machine.

[computoman]

Even fast food places are getting too expensive and the quality is faltering. Except for special or random occasion, we do not eat out anymore. I can see the need to learn to cook. There are a zillion cooking shows out there.such as Foodtv, Createtv, and etc. There are also a ton of demos on youtube and the other diy broadcasts on the internet besides ITunes. I watch a lot of them. Of those, the only ones I watch are about basic techniques or doing it from scratch. There is a big trend in Europe to go back to slow cooking. It is beginning to catch on here. Cheese, mustard, and bread are about the only processed foods left we purchase. Even then, I will make them from scratch, once in a while. Cooking with your kids (and yourself) is a great way to teach them about chemistry and other sciences. Cooking is also good exercise, Homemade mayo rocks!

Even if there was not a cooking show, it would be nice if the "Ctrl+Alt+Chicken" forum was opened back up, so we could trade recipes and tricks in the kitchen. (hint hint...)

[tokenuser]

Even fast food places are getting too expensive and the quality is faltering. Except for special or random occasion, we do not eat out anymore. I can see the need to learn to cook. There are a zillion cooking shows out there.such as Foodtv, Createtv, and etc. There are also a ton of demos on youtube and the other diy broadcasts on the internet besides ITunes. I watch a lot of them. Of those, the only ones I watch are about basic techniques or doing it from scratch. There is a big trend in Europe to go back to slow cooking. It is beginning to catch on here. Cheese, mustard, and bread are about the only processed foods left we purchase. Even then, I will make them from scratch, once in a while. Cooking with your kids (and yourself) is a great way to teach them about chemistry and other sciences. Cooking is also good exercise, Homemade mayo rocks!Get yourself a bread machine - its "set and forget" and produces amazing bread thats hot and fresh when you want it (not when the bakers made it and the shops stocked it). Its also good for making pizza dough (though I do use a stand mixer for that and let the dough proof for 2hours instead) ... neither take long to put together, and beat the supermarket varieties hands down.

Back in Australia, the local mall ("The Glen" in Glen Waverly FWIW) had a food court downstairs. If I hadn't picked up some fresh pasta at the Myers food hall in town, or something else, I would walk through there on the way from the train to my townhouse. When you think "food court" in the US, you think takeout (Panda Express, Sbarros, Taco Bell, Great Steak Co, etc) and tables (they had one of those too - upstairs). This place was different (and not that uncommon). It was a fresh food court, and had a deli, a butcher, a chicken butcher, a green grocer who sourced his produce from the daily fruit/veg market supplied by farmers, a baker, and a seafood market. The butcher and chicken butcher had both fresh produce and prepared items such as stir fries, chicken cordon bleu/kiev, etc., which were always good to take home and cook. I could walk past a chinese grocer on the way home if I wanted to as well and needed something a little more exotic.

Point is, you didn't need to look hard to find fresh, good quality ingredients. It meant that you could cook with good quality food, and i wasn't a chore to find it. That was 14 years ago. I had hoped the US might have caught onto that concept by now :(

[computoman]

[quote]I had hoped the US might have caught onto that concept by now[/qoute}

It is not that the us did not catch up,, the rat race and superficial need for convenience foods pushed out that type of environment. I was a victim of that too. You should have been here many years ago. As a child, I spent time on my grandfather's farm (now a subdivision of homes). Talk about good eats. There were so many pecan trees. We ate pecans like candy. There were no fences around farms back then either unless they had cattle or the like. In fact, you were more than welcome to pick fruit for yourself for free along the highway. I became addicted to fresh peaches. It's not like that anymore. Barbed wire heaven.

I prefer the no-knead method of baking bread. I never could get our bread maker to work right. It is probably out of warranty now and too late to see if it is defective. The gas oven and a dutch oven to hold the bread dough works perfectly.Lot less cooking time also. Most fast food places and the commercial restaurants here have ingredients trucked in. There are places that do cook with fresh products. Not many family owned businesses anymore where I live. A lot of people are cooking themselves because the grocery store is always packed. I try to get north of town once in a while where there is a farmers market. I like to make enough for several meals so I am not married to the kitchen, One prep many meals.

[tokenuser]

Being mid winter - no local farmers market.
Being mid west - no Whole Foods (generally really good produce year round).

Not a big deal. I cook seasonally.

I am not big on kneading, but our bread machine does a good job, and for the pizza dough the dough hook on the stand mixer works well too. Both expensive to buy, but purchased on sale and have been great investments in the kitchen.

I miss living in Southern California. Plenty of restaurant choices that weren't chains/franchises. Not so much here. The non-chain places are all higher end ... which is nice, but not a nightly or even weekly event.

[computoman]

We do have whole food stores, plus the grocery stores are getting better at getting fresh produce and the like. I usually do not follow recipes directly, I get what is fresh. Traditional Italians do it that way. Makes for some interesting combinations. Most people have big freezers down here to offset the seasons and when beef was plentiful in Texas years ago.

"No-Knead" bread is exactly what it says no kneading. Surprised you have not heard of it. The method has been around for centuries. I use this method for making yeast based bread, focaccia, dinner rolls, pizza doughs, and etc.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/08/dining/081mrex.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13Ah9ES2yTU

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