Healthy/Unhealthy Dynamic

[kamakazininja]

I like how there was a healthy recipe thrown in with unhealthy one. As delicious as those pancakes looked, healthy recipes I could use on a day to day basis will be far more useful to me and I imagine other people who are new to cooking, which seems to be your target audience.
Anyway... I like the show, keep it up!

[rabidbadger]

Yeah, would be cool if the show did a regular (ie, whatever he wants to make) recipe and a healthy-ish alternative in each episode. I don't want it to turn into a preachy health show, though.

[masherscf]

I like how there was a healthy recipe thrown in with unhealthy one. As delicious as those pancakes looked, healthy recipes I could use on a day to day basis will be far more useful to me and I imagine other people who are new to cooking, which seems to be your target audience.
Anyway... I like the show, keep it up!

What did you find unhealthy about pancakes? If you make them with wholesome ingredients they're not bad. You can make them with wholegrains and fresh fruit if you want to skip the syrup.

Perhaps you object to the calories. But, all food has calories. Eating to much of anything can me unhealthy.

Eat real food, mostly plants, not too much.

[tokenuser]

Eat real food, mostly plants, not too much.I need to order a bacon tree, and start planting my steaks for summer.

[masherscf]

I need to order a bacon tree, and start planting my steaks for summer.

If the pigs are corn fed they count as plants.

[daikun]

What did you find unhealthy about pancakes?

The white chocolate, maybe?

[tokenuser]

If the pigs are corn fed they count as plants.After living in the south, I know that bacon is considered a vegetable, and there are more people who are "culturally" Jewish that practicing :)

[masherscf]

The white chocolate, maybe?

Such food prejudice... As long as the food is not toxic (like trans fats), enjoying it in moderation is not unhealthy. Just becuase you enjoy chocolate doesn't mean it's bad for you. Don't eat it for every meal. Enjoy it while you have it.

[magicmisles]

I need to order a bacon tree, and start planting my steaks for summer.

You and me both. :)

Seriously though, to the OP: Anything in excess is unhealthy everything in moderation is fine. The host even mentioned not eating the pancakes often for this reason. :)

[kamakazininja]

Tried to respond a while ago on my iphone... guess it didn't post >< I'll sum up what I said though.

I understand fully that the pancakes are a once and a while thing, and I thought it was a good recipe. But for people with little to no cooking experience our lives are already full of junk whether its delivered, frozen or at restaurant. I think the healthy recipes will be far more of a benefit to get people started and I was just happy that there was a good one thrown in and I just thought I would send out my support of it in hopes that we keep getting healthy recipes thrown in. I feel like I, as a male college student, really fit the target audience to a T and I know what I am lacking is good healthy recipes.

[masherscf]

Tried to respond a while ago on my iphone... guess it didn't post >< I'll sum up what I said though.

I understand fully that the pancakes are a once and a while thing, and I thought it was a good recipe. But for people with little to no cooking experience our lives are already full of junk whether its delivered, frozen or at restaurant. I think the healthy recipes will be far more of a benefit to get people started and I was just happy that there was a good one thrown in and I just thought I would send out my support of it in hopes that we keep getting healthy recipes thrown in. I feel like I, as a male college student, really fit the target audience to a T and I know what I am lacking is good healthy recipes.

Again, I point out that pancakes need not be unhealthy. If a person practices unhealthy eating habits, presenting healthy recipes is not going to change that.

Why do we need to pander to people who feel guilty about eating? Why take the joy out of an experience by constantly pointing out that it will kill you?

[murphy1d]

Again, I point out that pancakes need not be unhealthy. If a person practices unhealthy eating habits, presenting healthy recipes is not going to change that.

Why do we need to pander to people who feel guilty about eating? Why take the joy out of an experience by constantly pointing out that it will kill you?

So, in summary, please make some "traditionally labeled" healthy food without labeling it healthy.

Everyone ok with that? Alright, moving on....Again Great Show Niall (and cool spelling of Neal, or Neil...kind of a mashup. Or its the original spelling and everyone else got it wrong LOL).

[tokenuser]

If you made the pancakes as listed in the show notes, AND ate them all yourself the nutritional info is:

Calories 2,006.0
Total Fat 72.8 g
Saturated Fat 26.9 g
Polyunsaturated Fat 8.2 g
Monounsaturated Fat 23.4 g
Cholesterol 2,092.0 mg
Sodium 1,238.3 mg
Potassium 921.0 mg
Total Carbohydrate 222.9 g
Dietary Fiber 9.7 g
Sugars 19.6 g
Protein 97.5 g

Vitamin A 72.4 %
Vitamin B-12 81.0 %
Vitamin B-6 40.6 %
Vitamin C 16.5 %
Vitamin D 88.2 %
Vitamin E 32.5 %
Calcium 83.5 %
Copper 23.6 %
Folate 172.6 %
Iron 107.3 %
Magnesium 27.1 %
Manganese 101.3 %
Niacin 76.9 %
Pantothenic Acid 72.6 %
Phosphorus 124.3 %
Riboflavin 220.0 %
Selenium 335.5 %
Thiamin 153.2 %
Zinc 47.9 %

*Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet. Your daily values may be higher or lower depending on your calorie needs.

I didn't make the pancakes, so I am not sure how many people they actually served. I am guessing 2-3, so divide the numbers above accordingly.

Taking out the white chocolate (I would - I like chocolate, but not in pancakes) drops the calories to 1839.

Taking out the blueberries as well drops it to 1798 (notice the blueberries dont add much to the calories ... but they are just about all the Vitamin C, and 1/3 of the fibre.

Swapping milk (I used 2% in the original calc) for 1% drops the recipe to 1786. I wouldn't go lower than 1%, because you actually need a little fat in the recipe.

You could drop the white flour, and sub in whole wheat flour. That will boost the fibre and drop the calories a little.

The oil was used for cooking, and not as an ingredient ... so use a non stick pan and a cooking spray.

After all is said and done the entire batch would be about 1600 calories, divided by however many servings you have.

Lets call it 2 servings. So, original recipe would be near enough to 1000cal, and modified it would be 800cal. People eat their meals back to front in the US. We should be eating more *good quality* calories early in the day (this recipe is an example of good calories) boostin our metabolism, and eating fewer cals later in the day, so this is a great recipe from that perspective.

As a comparison, a Sausage McMuffin (/w Egg) is 450cal, a hashbrown is 150cal, a Chick-fil-a Chicken, Egg & Cheese on Sunflower Multigrain Bagel is 500cal, and Cheerios /w 1/2C skim milk is 150cal.

The thing is moderation. If you have a big day ahead, and might not get a chance for a good lunch, this is a perfect recipe. If you are going to be sitting on your ass all day ... it might not be what you want to eat every day.

[bb4034]

First of all I like this new show. It somewhat fills the very large gap CAC has left for all of us.

While I enjoy learning to cook, I appreciate even more how a cook will inform his audience on why he chooses certain ingredients over others, for example the free-range eggs. I believe this kind of instruction is what drives others to not only buy more healthy (and expensive) ingredients, but learn to appreciate and enjoy eating proper food. On the flip side, I can see justifying using "other" ingredients (white chocolate) for explaining aesthetics. It's nice seeing a mix a traditional to gourmet food. I'm sure how we call all guess on how to make it "healthier" per say, and I think that's where improvisation and uploading your own videos come in - with a good bit of explaining on why you did things your way and how you think you have better food in front of you. I personally do not like white chocolate because the flavonoid count is essentially 0 - but it's not really my place to judge how a cook does his own thing.

Another thing worth noting, calorie counting is a scam much like counting "carbohydrates." This is a method designed to push diet books off shelves. You need to listen to your OWN damn body and see how well you can metabolize certain foods. The best "general" advice one can give that fits every human is: avoid the artificial derivatives, and starting leaning in the natural direction. You don't see people walking around eating "moderate" amounts of arsenic. Simple quality over quantity. :)

[chefniall]

Guys as you say it is all about eating in moderation. There is not harm with eating something like pancakes as long as you only eat them once a week and are not stuffing your face with them every single day!