"No body wants a Veggie pizza" well I do!!

[siddyv6]

Hey people, well i watched your pizza makin episode, It was good until someone said "No body wants a Veggie pizza", Well actually We do, Im a vegetrain and i personally felt offended so do not say these types of things in the future. And think about us veggies here, we may not have a big amount of them, But we're still their!!!!

p.s. more veggie recipes please!

[tokenuser]

Hey people, well i watched your pizza makin episode, It was good until someone said "No boy wants a Veggie pizza", Well actually We do, Im a vegetrain and i personally felt offended so do not say these types of things in the future. And think about us veggies here, we may not have a big amount of them, But we're still their!!!!

p.s. more veggie recipes please!Take the salmon off the salmon pizza. Add some mushrooms, tofu, or sliced roma tomato.

Run you tongue over your teeth. Feel the pointy ones? Those are canines. We have them because our human metabolism is designed to process animal protein. We also eat veggies. Thats because we also need fibre and other things provided by fruit and vegetables. Its all part of a balanced diet.

Remember - a vegan tastes the same as an omnivore ... like pork apparently (the native name for white man in the wild of Papua New Guinea translates to "long pig" ... and there is no mystery about how we got that name).

[tehboris]

I do find the history of human evolution fasinating. The od thing about having the evolutinary decendednts of 'killing teeth' is that it indicates that at some point hunting and killing was one of the evolutionary states reached, yet later on we changed to a mixture of plants and animals (though by this time it was moslty insects).

[ai25]

Hey people, well i watched your pizza making episode, It was good until someone said "No body wants a Veggie pizza", Well actually We do, I'm a vegetarian and i personally felt offended so do not say these types of things in the future. And think about us veggies here, we may not have a big amount of them, But we're still their!!!!

p.s. more veggie recipes please!

I agree more Veggie options would be nice :)

[tokenuser]

I do find the history of human evolution fasinating. The od thing about having the evolutinary decendednts of 'killing teeth' is that it indicates that at some point hunting and killing was one of the evolutionary states reached, yet later on we changed to a mixture of plants and animals (though by this time it was moslty insects).Not entirely true. Bugs did become part of the diet (and continue to be a favourite in the pre-K set ... but they also like glue, crayons, and dirt), but the development of thumbs lead to the use of tools, and those tools where used for hunting - animals, and each other. We are omnivorous. That is a good thing. I like steak AND potatoes.

[jestempies]

Some vegetarian food can be ok for a general-audience cooking show, but I'm against showing vegan recipes, since they don't use cheese, eggs, milk, butter, cream, and the list goes on. It just doesn't make sense for most people.

[fantastadon]

majority rules on this one, noones saying he wont do vegan stuff, but ...

mmmm cheese

lol, this show is awesome because the chef isn't a chef nazi hell bent on his incredibly obscure shit that ill never cook

[masherscf]

My wife heard that and also objected. She's not a vegetarian, but she's not a guy either.

[chefniall]

Haha guys good discussion here! I don't mind cooking for veggies but I guess the biggest problem with cooking it on the show is that from my experience 70% of the people are going to be pissed off and not watch the show! Its a shame because the 30% would massively love the veggie recipes. As I was saying to somebody the other day lets try it out as one of the tips first and see what people think!

Ah poor old veggies!

[crimson80]

I like meat, but my favorite pizza is pizza margarita with white sauce which is vegetarian.

[thelastknowngod]

i like a good meaty meal but my fav pizza is green peppers, black olives, and just a few pepperoni.

if you want to put something else on your pizza then go ahead.. not that difficult to drop something on top..

[chefniall]

i like a good meaty meal but my fav pizza is green peppers, black olives, and just a few pepperoni.

if you want to put something else on your pizza then go ahead.. not that difficult to drop something on top..

I suppose the one thing that I could see myself eating without any meat would be a nice goat's cheese pizza with some roasted peppers. Or even a Calzone stuffled full of nice veggies but I am sorry t say that I always feel like I am missing out if there is not meat!

N

[siddyv6]

I love veggie dishes but i also love my chicken! But its true, we were naturally veggies but now we're a MIXTURE! YAY!! or else i wouldn't have my chicken and chips! MMM....

[acarboni]

I'd love to see some vegetarian stuff, too - but I think most vegetarians are used to just 'mentally substituting' as we watch a cooking show.

Someone said earlier "just pull the salmon off and sub tofu, mushrooms, etc." - and that's exactly what I thought to myself. I dig on the experimentation aspect of cooking anyway, so I never follow anything I see exactly.

(I'd still love to see a veggie episode, N!)

[tokenuser]

I'd love to see some vegetarian stuff, too - but I think most vegetarians are used to just 'mentally substituting' as we watch a cooking show. That sorta works, sorta doesn't.

If you are a die hard vegie and have never eaten meat - or ate it a long time ago - swapping in vegie ingredients may or may not work. There is more to meat than being a protein. It brings different flavour and texture profiles to the dish and interacts with ingredients differently to how vegies do. For some dishes its not a problem, for others it is.

But, as you said, its all about experimenting.

I have a cookbook that I refer to often called Almost Vegetarian (http://www.bookfinder.com/dir/i/Almost_Vegetarian/1863960155/) (actually, and I am not ashamed to admit it, I have a shelf full of Australian Women's Weekly cookbooks, and add to my collection whenever I go home). It is basically vegetarian recipes, but there is a footnote on most that say something like "add diced bacon with the eggs", or "halve the artichokes and add some cooked chicken".

I can't ditch my (red) meat, but I have cut it right back in my diet.

[robertmontgomery]

Whoa whoa whoa. Let's be sure to keep things clear here. Having a meatless meal does not have to be some sacrificial experience and it does not make you part of some cult movement. Vegetarian meals can be great, vegan meals not so much. There is a huge difference.

[tokenuser]

I like vegans, but don't think I could eat a whole one.

[siddyv6]

I like vegans, but don't think I could eat a whole one.

xD Totally aggreee, I have to have my cheese and milk mmmm....

[robertmontgomery]

I like vegans, but don't think I could eat a whole one.



Probably need to brine one first, even still I bet the meat would be stringy.

[tokenuser]

Probably need to brine one first, even still I bet the meat would be stringy.I wonder if the grassfed vs cornfed debate applies to vegans?

[robertmontgomery]

The vegan stomach and metabolism are able to process corn without ill effect. I think the issue is more of free range vs keeping them locked up in little cages.

[tokenuser]

Ever sat in a room full of vegans? They don't process corn very well.

Free range vegans would probably be the way to go.

The next idea is a question of dry aging. If you have ever been down to a beach in California, you'll see they have been experimenting with this for a long time. Crispy skinned, dry aged vegan ... hmmmmmm

[gosu71]

Pizza should have meat on it.

You do know a 'proper' Italian pizza is just tomato, mozzarella and basil?

I love meat on my pizza's but alternatively there are so many combinations of veg that can be used to make an equally delicious 'veggie only' pizza.

[tokenuser]

You do know a 'proper' Italian pizza is just tomato, mozzarella and basil?Bzzzzt.

That is a specific type of pizza - the "Margherita Pizza" and was invented to celebrate the visit of Queen Margherita to Naples in the 1880s. Its colours were to celebrate the Italian flag (red, white, green). It became the classic Italian pizza, but is by no means the definition of being a 'proper' Pizza.

Pizza (and flatbreads) have been around for much much longer than that.

[ariastar]

Ah, the fortune of being able to sit around debating which food is better.

Saying "Nobody wants X" is a generalization. If you sit there offended by an offhanded comment, you need more hobbies. I swear people are too offended these days. I swear I know people offended by someone saying, "That's lame." Apparently using "lame" in that context is an insult to people with physical disabilities.

Unless the aim is a niche market, then vegetarian food will bring in a minority viewership. Don't get me wrong, I eat plenty of vegetarian meals simply because sometimes an all-meat pizza sounds good, and I'm a salad fiend, but the majority of people who watch cooking shows want meat. Pizza is one of those "meeeeeeaaaaat!" things, and making it vegetarian would draw attention to it being vegetarian. A nice eggplant parmesan is vegetarian, but as no one would feel like the meat is missing, might be a better veggie dish to try.

Vegan food. Nix two food groups, meat and dairy, and don't cook anything. There you go. It's not really cooking. :) It's amazing the things that vegans won't have, like sugar and most toothpaste.

[gosu71]

Bzzzzt.

That is a specific type of pizza - the "Margherita Pizza" and was invented to celebrate the visit of Queen Margherita to Naples in the 1880s. Its colours were to celebrate the Italian flag (red, white, green). It became the classic Italian pizza, but is by no means the definition of being a 'proper' Pizza.

Pizza (and flatbreads) have been around for much much longer than that.
You have never been to Italy then.

The world's finest pizza's and made with love, care and few ingredients. To see the dough hand made, shaped and finally baked is a sight to behold. Once tasted I would argue with anyone to say they know of where to get a better pizza.

[tokenuser]

You have never been to Italy then.
Really?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3079/2388857832_629a3b9bbe.jpg


The world's finest pizza's and made with love, care and few ingredients. To see the dough hand made, shaped and finally baked is a sight to behold. Once tasted I would argue with anyone to say they know of where to get a better pizza.

We've had the pizza discussion elsewhere ... but one of the best pizzas I ever had was in Pompei. No cheese involved at all.

The Margherita Pizza is a classic, but to call it 'proper' is to ignore centuries of Italian pizza making. The ruins of Pompei have examples of kitchens with ovens that are remarkably similar to woodfired ovens of today. And, the tomato that is so clearly associated with Italy didn't arrive in Europe until around 1500 (depending if Cortes or Columbus brought it back from the new world).

So, what makes a 'proper' Italian pizza?

[ronaldo]

I personally do not care to make traditional Italian pizza and I am Italian. When tomatoes are in season I love making mozzarella, basil, and tomato pizza. I like BBQ chicken pizza. I like it piled high with meat. I like it just with cheese. I like white sauce pizzas stuffed with spinach and shrooms. I like it with anchovies.

Quite frankly Niell suprised me with the smoked salmon. I never thought of that. It might be a "chick version" pizza but I have to try it next time I am making it.

There is no reason to get snobbish about pizza. The combinations are endless so why limit yourself to a version? It would be like saying that the only sandwich is ham and cheese and no other sandwich is right.

[magicmisles]

Hey people, well i watched your pizza makin episode, It was good until someone said "No body wants a Veggie pizza", Well actually We do, Im a vegetrain and i personally felt offended so do not say these types of things in the future. And think about us veggies here, we may not have a big amount of them, But we're still their!!!!

p.s. more veggie recipes please!

Let's take things literally and get offended by them. Why on earth would you be offended because someone said "nobody wants a veggie pizza"? People get offended by the weirdest things.

[computoman]

Anyone ever tried tofu or fake hamburger on pizza?

http://find.myrecipes.com/recipes/recipefinder.dyn?action=displayRecipe&recipe_id=457217

[tokenuser]

Anyone ever tried tofu or fake hamburger on pizza?

http://find.myrecipes.com/recipes/recipefinder.dyn?action=displayRecipe&recipe_id=457217Yes to fake hamburger. No to tofu.

Like most of the meat substitutes I have tried, the fake hamburger* on a pizza was disappointing. Didn't taste or feel like real meat. If you are going to be vegetarian, go vegetarian. There are so many good vegie alternatives that the fake meat route should be avoided.

* Hamburger is another name used in the US for minced/ground beef

[ronaldo]

Anyone ever tried tofu or fake hamburger on pizza?

http://find.myrecipes.com/recipes/recipefinder.dyn?action=displayRecipe&recipe_id=457217


I don't do fake foods. No low fat cheeses or any of it.

Tofu is a good and healthy protein but it requires a lot of work because it has practically no flavor of its own. That is just too much hassle for a pizza.