It's official I do not understand guys

[decemberfall]

I'm guessing that since the majority of the population of this board are guys, you might try and help me figure things out...

I officially don't understand guys in the slightest.

Okay so here's an example.

I met a guy at work, he works in the same building as me, but not in the same department, actually our work never crosses paths for the most part. Well anyway, someone asked me one day if he had a myspace, so being the person I am, I just emailed him to see if he did, this act started us talking everyday for a few months now, at most we went a week without talking and he emailed me like freaked out that something had happened to me, just because we hadn't talked in that week. Well today I just ask him if we're eventually going to be more than friends, since we talk everyday at work and such, and he says no...

This crap happens to me all the time, i don't think i'm that unattractive or that I have a bad personality, but I don't get it... most of the guys I meet anymore just want to use me to cheat on their girlfriends, or just want to have sex with me, or just be friends... I can't get a guy interested at all in a relationship...

I just want someone to explain to me what's wrong...

[capo327]

You've gotta stop getting yourself into the friend zone, that's what's wrong.

[decemberfall]

You've gotta stop getting yourself into the friend zone, that's what's wrong.
i try not to get into the friend zone at all... this guy told me at first "we can start out as friends" which led me to believe it would go somewhere else...

[masherscf]

i try not to get into the friend zone at all... this guy told me at first "we can start out as friends" which led me to believe it would go somewhere else...

"Guys don't have female friends. Just chicks they haven't slept with yet. " - Anonymous proverb.


I don't have any helpful advice, I just think thats a funny saying. They should qualify the statement with the addendum "unless you''re married..then your just friends"

[starscream80]

I'm guessing that since the majority of the population of this board are guys, you might try and help me figure things out...

I officially don't understand guys in the slightest.

Okay so here's an example.

I met a guy at work, he works in the same building as me, but not in the same department, actually our work never crosses paths for the most part. Well anyway, someone asked me one day if he had a myspace, so being the person I am, I just emailed him to see if he did, this act started us talking everyday for a few months now, at most we went a week without talking and he emailed me like freaked out that something had happened to me, just because we hadn't talked in that week. Well today I just ask him if we're eventually going to be more than friends, since we talk everyday at work and such, and he says no...

This crap happens to me all the time, i don't think i'm that unattractive or that I have a bad personality, but I don't get it... most of the guys I meet anymore just want to use me to cheat on their girlfriends, or just want to have sex with me, or just be friends... I can't get a guy interested at all in a relationship...

I just want someone to explain to me what's wrong...
Maybe you were too forward or too blunt and freaked him out.

[rowlodge]

you are illogical...

or emotional?...forget it and move on.

like "maserchf" said...(married)

[darknessgp]

umm, I don't know what his problem is after seeing your profile pic for myspace and looking at your digg.com diggs I wouldn't mind taking a shot.

[decemberfall]

"Guys don't have female friends. Just chicks they haven't slept with yet. " - Anonymous proverb.


I don't have any helpful advice, I just think thats a funny saying. They should qualify the statement with the addendum "unless you''re married..then your just friends"
ha ha, yeah the guys in my office use that one... too bad i'm friends with them....

[decemberfall]

Maybe you were too forward or too blunt and freaked him out.
we've been talking for like 3 months, i just asked if there was a chance, i didn't say, "hey lets get married now" and in his response it was kinda strange cause he said he was enjoying being single, and I never mentioned being exclusive or anything, i just said go out sometime...

[decemberfall]

umm, I don't know what his problem is after seeing your profile pic for myspace and looking at your digg.com diggs I wouldn't mind taking a shot.
ha ha, those are the kind of responses I like... but I haven't had a guy actually ask me out in years, like probably 6 or more...

[magunwarrior]

Are you sure he's not gay?

[decemberfall]

oh yeah and did i add he asked me to lunch the week of my birthday, which i was swamped at work so he told me we could rain check it and everytime i mention it now it's blown off or ignored...

[decemberfall]

Are you sure he's not gay?
ha ha pretty sure...

[-mk-]

I'm no Dr. Phil, buuuut I highly suggest not trying to figure dating/relationships out...they've never been cracked and never will (by either gender), you just gotta roll with it. If the turd burglar doesn't want anything more after leading you on, don't waste your time.

Hell, I'm married and the wife and I find ourselves scratching our heads wondering what in the hell is going on frequently. We just pay more attention to the fun parts of it all and accept the BS as stuff that goes with the territory of being in a relationship.

I guess the bottom line is: If you enjoy hanging out with someone, and they enjoy it too, then you won't even need to suggest it "become more than it is," that part will just happen.

[magunwarrior]

I'm no Dr. Phil, buuuut I highly suggest not trying to figure dating/relationships out...they've never been cracked and never will (by either gender), you just gotta roll with it. If the turd burglar doesn't want anything more after leading you on, don't waste your time.

Hell, I'm married and the wife and I find ourselves scratching our heads wondering what in the hell is going on frequently. We just pay more attention to the fun parts of it all and accept the BS as stuff that goes with the territory of being in a relationship.

I guess the bottom line is: If you enjoy hanging out with someone, and they enjoy it too, then you won't even need to suggest it "become more than it is," that part will just happen.

Once again you have made me laugh at the word "turd burglar".

[kwok_talk]

ha ha, yeah the guys in my office use that one... too bad i'm friends with them....

rejection is never fun, so sorry about your news. your quote reminded me of some advice that someone once gave me about how "where" you're looking can be important. while i dont want to overly generalize or pretend that i fully know your situation, if you're looking for a relationship in pools of people (or places) that just want to hook up or dont care for relationships, then chances are you aren't going to find someone who will want the same type relationship that you want. i have no idea if that helps or is even relevant to your situation, but that's what came to mind. good luck!

[decemberfall]

I'm no Dr. Phil, buuuut I highly suggest not trying to figure dating/relationships out...they've never been cracked and never will (by either gender), you just gotta roll with it. If the turd burglar doesn't want anything more after leading you on, don't waste your time.

Hell, I'm married and the wife and I find ourselves scratching our heads wondering what in the hell is going on frequently. We just pay more attention to the fun parts of it all and accept the BS as stuff that goes with the territory of being in a relationship.

I guess the bottom line is: If you enjoy hanging out with someone, and they enjoy it too, then you won't even need to suggest it "become more than it is," that part will just happen.
Thanks for the advice, yeah i pretty much already decided that i'm letting things go with him, and if he starts emailing me wondering why i'm not talking to him, i'm gonna tell him i just don't feel like wasting my time...

[-mk-]

Once again you have made me laugh at the word "turd burglar".

Damn, I use that one a bit too liberally don't I? I need some new names to call people.

[decemberfall]

Once again you have made me laugh at the word "turd burglar".
i wasn't until you said it again...

[decemberfall]

rejection is never fun, so sorry about your news. your quote reminded me of some advice that someone once gave me about how "where" you're looking can be important. while i dont want to overly generalize or pretend that i fully know your situation, if you're looking for a relationship in pools of people (or places) that just want to hook up or dont care for relationships, then chances are you aren't going to find someone who will want the same type relationship that you want. i have no idea if that helps or is even relevant to your situation, but that's what came to mind. good luck!
he's actually about the only decient guy at work, but I guess he's not all he was cracked up to be either...

[ariastar]

I'm not a guy, just a girl who, for the first time, moved out of the just-friends realm on my birthday. Every other guy I've dated it was, "Okay, first time we're meeting, we either decide to date or we're not seeing each other again." I was the one afraid to move forward because I didn't want to risk ruining a friendship if it didn't work.

It's possible he's afraid of ruining the friendship you two have, or he's just comfortable being friends. If something more is meant to be, the attraction will end up strong enough that neither of you will be able to deny it.

There are a lot of guys who also end up just about always being the friend. So this isn't a problem women alone have. :)

I'm curious about something. Is this someone you do want to date, or are you just asking why you always end up being a platonic friend, but otherwise have no/little interest in dating?

[decemberfall]

I'm not a guy, just a girl who, for the first time, moved out of the just-friends realm on my birthday. Every other guy I've dated it was, "Okay, first time we're meeting, we either decide to date or we're not seeing each other again." I was the one afraid to move forward because I didn't want to risk ruining a friendship if it didn't work.

It's possible he's afraid of ruining the friendship you two have, or he's just comfortable being friends. If something more is meant to be, the attraction will end up strong enough that neither of you will be able to deny it.

There are a lot of guys who also end up just about always being the friend. So this isn't a problem women alone have. :)

I'm curious about something. Is this someone you do want to date, or are you just asking why you always end up being a platonic friend, but otherwise have no/little interest in dating?
I was to the point where I did want to go out with him, he's really funny and we get along really great, actually i get along with him better than any guy i've even realitively been attracted to. I know he's not the one or anything, cause there are things about him I don't like, but I just wanted to go out with him and have fun cause I enjoy talking to him and i'm really comfortable with him in person, which I normally aren't most guys.

But as a general rule this always happens... either that or suddenly they start dating "the one" just when I think i'm about to get my chance...

[klitzy]

...Wow just Wow....Where's Seumas when we need him?

*Klitzy has no idea why this situation needs Seumas*

[masherscf]

...Wow just Wow....Where's Seumas when we need him?

*Klitzy has no idea why this situation needs Seumas*

Seumas was a man! He'd put down this touchy-feelly woman-speak...

[samureye]

Why not confront him? If he emails about you not talking to him, confront him about it. you could try the jealousy thing, i can say from experience, a guy may like a girl but not be ready, but you'll see how ready he gets if you're with someone else.

[decemberfall]

Why not confront him? If he emails about you not talking to him, confront him about it. you could try the jealousy thing, i can say from experience, a guy may like a girl but not be ready, but you'll see how ready he gets if you're with someone else.
He already knows I like the electrician (I had posted about him when I was sick and he was in office) and he was like "who is this electrician person, I don't know him" he's also put up with me saying how cute Tom Brady is all playoffs (and kindly pointed out that he's dating Giselle)

i know if i confront him he'll just say something about wanting to be friends...

[ariastar]

I was to the point where I did want to go out with him, he's really funny and we get along really great, actually i get along with him better than any guy i've even realitively been attracted to. I know he's not the one or anything, cause there are things about him I don't like, but I just wanted to go out with him and have fun cause I enjoy talking to him and i'm really comfortable with him in person, which I normally aren't most guys.

But as a general rule this always happens... either that or suddenly they start dating "the one" just when I think i'm about to get my chance...

If he doesn't have potential to be "the one," then don't go out with him. You'd break up and lose a friend. But keep in mind, every guy will have something you don't like about him. But the positives have to be enough to overrule that.

Otherwise, I don't really have any advice. I may date around a lot, but only three times have I gone out with someone longer than a month. Two I was engaged to and the guy I'm dating right now. But I know the feeling of always being the friend in the end of nothing.

[decemberfall]

If he doesn't have potential to be "the one," then don't go out with him. You'd break up and lose a friend. But keep in mind, every guy will have something you don't like about him. But the positives have to be enough to overrule that.

Otherwise, I don't really have any advice. I may date around a lot, but only three times have I gone out with someone longer than a month. Two I was engaged to and the guy I'm dating right now. But I know the feeling of always being the friend in the end of nothing.
well pretty much i've lost a friend already, cause it's like uncomfortable cause it's kinda moved past that friend stage, you know what I mean, and it wasn't just cause I said something, it had started to get uncomfortable before. I guess i just don't have to worry about it anymore cause he's already said no...

I really don't date, okay so I don't date at all, i dated a guy on and off for like all of college, he asked me to move to Nashville with him after we graduated, which I wasn't ready to do and he pretty much hasn't talked to me since. Other than that i've only been on a couple of other dates ever... and really haven't been on a date in like 6 years or something...

i'm starting to really think i'm meant to be alone...

[xibalba]

Sometimes guys are too nervous to admit the way they feel about and deny it. Like me I had a girl I liked always denied when asked if I liked her, but by the time I got the nerve to tell her how I felt it was too late she already had someone but I told her anyways. I moved on we still talk every now and then. Other times guys just either want to be friends, sex, or just isn't interested at all.

Most Men = Morons

We're not too hard to figure out once you put your mind to it.

[starscream80]

i'm starting to really think i'm meant to be alone...

Don't doubt yourself!!! You seem like a very intelligent and attractive girl. Don't worry, the right guy will come in due time.

[ariastar]

well pretty much i've lost a friend already, cause it's like uncomfortable cause it's kinda moved past that friend stage, you know what I mean, and it wasn't just cause I said something, it had started to get uncomfortable before. I guess i just don't have to worry about it anymore cause he's already said no...

I really don't date, okay so I don't date at all, i dated a guy on and off for like all of college, he asked me to move to Nashville with him after we graduated, which I wasn't ready to do and he pretty much hasn't talked to me since. Other than that i've only been on a couple of other dates ever... and really haven't been on a date in like 6 years or something...

i'm starting to really think i'm meant to be alone...

Sweetie, bluearia2005 is me on AIM. Send me an IM.

[_sorrow_]

You've gotta stop getting yourself into the friend zone, that's what's wrong.

Yeah, this quote is from the first page of the thread and all, but i just came across the thread, and thought it was funny because i have the same damn problem -- but i'm a guy :cool:

I'd give you input, but obviously i'm probably not the best one for it -- and on top of that, i've been single for two years now :( Granted, a lot of people will say that two years is nothing... but its by far the longest i've been single since when i first ever kissed a girl..

*grumbles and starts to walk away* :rolleyes:

Good luck with your problem.. and one thing i will ask, is did you guys hang out in person? I didn't read most of the thread -- it looked quite large, and i'm on the way to bed -- but what i glanced at sounded like most (if not all?) of your dialog was via email, and i know for me, that would be really strange...

Well.. okay, a couple more questions actually, haha

Did you ask him completely out of the blue? And, had you two been building up on what felt like an intimate relationship, or was it more a friendship that could have been slightly on the intimate side, but not obviously there?

I think i had another one or two, but i have to go to bed. Again, good luck, and remember this:



Women are crazy, and men are assholes.

Most people don't like it, and rarely do we intend to fit in those roles.. but i don't know if i've ever met someone who can completely deny that they have ever filled their respective side of that equation.. ;)

EDIT: Aria, i'm impressed... first you post about that stalker dude who wanted to contra dance, and then you turn around and post you're instant messaging handle? I don't use IM clients anymore, but i definitely would PM my name to someone, not post it in a thread if i had any problems like the one you mentioned the other day... just a thought though. Then again, for all i know you have it posted in your user profile anyways... haha, sorry i get to rambling when i don't get enough sleep

[decemberfall]

Sweetie, bluearia2005 is me on AIM. Send me an IM.
Sorry I went to bed early... well not really early for me, i pretty much have to go to bed at 10 or I can't get up and go to work the next day, but hey for the first time in the year i've worked here, i was early 2 days in a row... i'm gonna make it a habit!

[decemberfall]

Yeah, this quote is from the first page of the thread and all, but i just came across the thread, and thought it was funny because i have the same damn problem -- but i'm a guy :cool:

I'd give you input, but obviously i'm probably not the best one for it -- and on top of that, i've been single for two years now :( Granted, a lot of people will say that two years is nothing... but its by far the longest i've been single since when i first ever kissed a girl..

*grumbles and starts to walk away* :rolleyes:

Good luck with your problem.. and one thing i will ask, is did you guys hang out in person? I didn't read most of the thread -- it looked quite large, and i'm on the way to bed -- but what i glanced at sounded like most (if not all?) of your dialog was via email, and i know for me, that would be really strange...

Well.. okay, a couple more questions actually, haha

Did you ask him completely out of the blue? And, had you two been building up on what felt like an intimate relationship, or was it more a friendship that could have been slightly on the intimate side, but not obviously there?

I think i had another one or two, but i have to go to bed. Again, good luck, and remember this:



Most people don't like it, and rarely do we intend to fit in those roles.. but i don't know if i've ever met someone who can completely deny that they have ever filled their respective side of that equation..

EDIT: Aria, i'm impressed... first you post about that stalker dude who wanted to contra dance, and then you turn around and post you're instant messaging handle? I don't use IM clients anymore, but i definitely would PM my name to someone, not post it in a thread if i had any problems like the one you mentioned the other day... just a thought though. Then again, for all i know you have it posted in your user profile anyways... haha, sorry i get to rambling when i don't get enough sleep


I've been single for 6 years... so yeah, I win! :)

I don't know if I would consider it hanging out, but everytime I was upstairs and he heard me talking he would come and see what I was doing and try to work his way into any conversation I was having, this included mocking me and making faces at me while I was on my cell phone... Once he started emailing me he would also call me occassionally to ask random computer questions or fix random problems, one was a security issue which I wasn't allowed to mess with, so I told him that another guy in the department would get with him on it, when the guy in the department called him to fix it, he told him to nevermind. Also he asked me to lunch the week of my birthday, which got postponed because we were so busy because of end of year stuff, then never happened and now it's ignored when mentioned. According to like half the people i know when anyone would ask him about me he'd quickly say "we're just friends" and his face would turn bright red.

I kinda just asked out of curiousity, cause to me it felt like it was leaving the friend area, and I kinda wanted to know if I was just wasting my time, cause it was just a couple weeks ago that I just didn't talk to him for a week to see what he would do, and that's when i got the email where he was freaked out wanting to know if I was alright cause he hadn't seen or heard from me in awhile, and pretty much if he hasn't heard from me all day he sends me an email, and these are not small emails, they are generally 2-3 paragraphs, that in itself is really strange for a guy...

Okay gotta get back to work...

[_sorrow_]

**lets out an exasperated scream** :mad:

Wtf, i just had this big freakin thing typed out... and suddenly the boards **** the bed and i lost it all, and don't have time to type it all out, so here is a probably poor paraphrasing of what i had said:

Okay, it sounds like your relationship was structured almost exclusively around your work lives, which is fine... but one thing to consider is that almost all work places have some maelstrom of potentially vicious social circles and vultures. Not to imply that you and this guy both subscribe and frequently take part in them... but they are there either way. So that is one thing that very easily could have effected anything about your relationships evolution.

Another thing is, maybe you made him feel like a deer in headlights: his intentions were to eventually take you out on this pseudo-lunch-date, and see if things went well, and eventually maybe move things on from there.... but then all of the sudden you asked him straight out what his intentions were! :eek: I know that i'd be rather take aback if a girl asked me that out of the blue (or even with some amount of build up to be honest!), but probably the first thing i would consider is something like "Oh hell. She is going to tell me we're too good of friends to be anything else..." So maybe thats the effect you had upon him?

I dunno, just some thoughts, and now i need to run out the door even faster than i had planned because of that freakin glitch on the board.. figures; 90% of the time i hit "preview post," i copy all the text in the post, in case something like that happens (i used to post on a very poorly run forum) -- but, obviously i didn't do that this time :rolleyes:

LOL, yeah, it happened again... :whew!: glad i copied that time. And i couldn't get FF to open Rev3 again so i had to find my Opera shortcuts... :cool:

[rhett803]

Guys are pretty simple. I can think of a few things.

Have you come and simply asked if he's free? It's possible he had many female friends and has decided to date or at least go for one of them, thus making him eliminate you as a choice.

Guys are pretty animalistic in instincts. Most of us wont shit where we eat. Meaning, we don't need to complicate our work lifes with needless crap that will come back on us later.

Maybe he's actually just not interested in a relationship of any type at the moment.

Trying to figure this out will simple waste your time. Everyone will have different thoughts/opinions. If you want to know something, go to the source. Just ask him if he's interested. If not you can still be friends.

[decemberfall]

**lets out an exasperated scream** :mad:

Wtf, i just had this big freakin thing typed out... and suddenly the boards **** the bed and i lost it all, and don't have time to type it all out, so here is a probably poor paraphrasing of what i had said:

Okay, it sounds like your relationship was structured almost exclusively around your work lives, which is fine... but one thing to consider is that almost all work places have some maelstrom of potentially vicious social circles and vultures. Not to imply that you and this guy both subscribe and frequently take part in them... but they are there either way. So that is one thing that very easily could have effected anything about your relationships evolution.

Another thing is, maybe you made him feel like a deer in headlights: his intentions were to eventually take you out on this pseudo-lunch-date, and see if things went well, and eventually maybe move things on from there.... but then all of the sudden you asked him straight out what his intentions were! :eek: I know that i'd be rather take aback if a girl asked me that out of the blue (or even with some amount of build up to be honest!), but probably the first thing i would consider is something like "Oh hell. She is going to tell me we're too good of friends to be anything else..." So maybe thats the effect you had upon him?

I dunno, just some thoughts, and now i need to run out the door even faster than i had planned because of that freakin glitch on the board.. figures; 90% of the time i hit "preview post," i copy all the text in the post, in case something like that happens (i used to post on a very poorly run forum) -- but, obviously i didn't do that this time :rolleyes:

LOL, yeah, it happened again... :whew!: glad i copied that time. And i couldn't get FF to open Rev3 again so i had to find my Opera shortcuts... :cool:

thanks for your response, sorry the board wouldn't handle it, it's weird I always use FF on the boards.

I see what you mean, i may find out more tomorrow, apparently the guy was going to play ball tonight with the guys from my office, i usually hear if anything is said about me at those, from one person or another.

Well the guy didn't talk to me all day today, so I dunno...

[decemberfall]

Guys are pretty simple. I can think of a few things.

Have you come and simply asked if he's free? It's possible he had many female friends and has decided to date or at least go for one of them, thus making him eliminate you as a choice.

Guys are pretty animalistic in instincts. Most of us wont shit where we eat. Meaning, we don't need to complicate our work lifes with needless crap that will come back on us later.

Maybe he's actually just not interested in a relationship of any type at the moment.

Trying to figure this out will simple waste your time. Everyone will have different thoughts/opinions. If you want to know something, go to the source. Just ask him if he's interested. If not you can still be friends.

I know he is free, he said so when we first started talking, he also said "he's having too much fun being single" that was one of two reasons why he said no, the other was "we work together" which our jobs never intersect, I didn't even meet him for the first 6 months he worked there.

Oh well, i've pretty much given up on it, just need to find someone else...

[ellerbestyle]

If he said he is having to much fun being single then he probably isn't lying. When guys say that its either two things, he had long relationship and it ended bad or he just hasn't found something he likes enough to not be single anymore. Now in this situation it sounds like the friends thing. Before I was married when I met a girl I either dated them from the beginning or we were always friends. I always felt weird about dating a girl I already knew. Its really hard to describe.

When you are in the situation next time, don't be scared to either hint around about going out with the person or asking them out yourself. Then you will be able to become friends if it all works out, but it usually never works the other way around.

[decemberfall]

If he said he is having to much fun being single then he probably isn't lying. When guys say that its either two things, he had long relationship and it ended bad or he just hasn't found something he likes enough to not be single anymore. Now in this situation it sounds like the friends thing. Before I was married when I met a girl I either dated them from the beginning or we were always friends. I always felt weird about dating a girl I already knew. Its really hard to describe.

When you are in the situation next time, don't be scared to either hint around about going out with the person or asking them out yourself. Then you will be able to become friends if it all works out, but it usually never works the other way around.
Okay and here is the thing, when I first started talking to this guy I wasn't interested in him, someone else actually said he was so cute and asked if he had a myspace, I had never spoken to him before, wasn't that impressed with him to tell you the truth, so just emailed him for my friend, I never even thought he would email me back, but he kept emailing me back and asking me questions. It wasn't until recently that I even thought of being anything else than friends, so when that happened I did ask him out... It wasn't like a few months ago I hunted this guy down just to date him, i wasn't interested until just recently.

From the jist i've gotten it's that he had a long relationship that ended badly, but he never talks about it. He did start out this "friendship" saying he "wanted to try the friend thing for awhile and see where it goes" that led me to believe it might go somewhere else, but apparently i was wrong, and i'm to the point where i'm tired of being single for awhile, not necessarily want to get married right now, just want to try not being single for awhile, so obviously it wouldn't work out...

[ellerbestyle]

Yep its the long relationship that is getting in the way. I have a buddy that got a divorce and he loves being single again. He has met a few girls that were relationship material, but after a few weeks to a month he will lose interest and move on.

If he is not worth waiting around for then don't kill yourself over it. You probably would be suprised at how many are interested in you, but are afraid to talk to you.

[decemberfall]

Yep its the long relationship that is getting in the way. I have a buddy that got a divorce and he loves being single again. He has met a few girls that were relationship material, but after a few weeks to a month he will lose interest and move on.

If he is not worth waiting around for then don't kill yourself over it. You probably would be suprised at how many are interested in you, but are afraid to talk to you.
i dunno, most of the guys i meet are already involved or married, the others have been pretty open about either liking me or not and almost all of them not... the only one i've met recently that does like me, i have no attraction to him, he's a nice guy, but like i don't understand his humor and such, it's a personality clash that wouldn't work out well.

i dunno, just frustrating...

[tokenuser]

i dunno, just frustrating...Women are just as confusing, if not more so. Are you relying just on guys you meet at work or do you have a wider social circle? I was fortunate - I met my wife through a girl I worked with. She worked for the same company in an office 4 miles from mine - we wouldn't have met otherwise.

Many relationships come via "friends of friends". You need to cast a wider net.

[decemberfall]

Women are just as confusing, if not more so. Are you relying just on guys you meet at work or do you have a wider social circle? I was fortunate - I met my wife through a girl I worked with. She worked for the same company in an office 4 miles from mine - we wouldn't have met otherwise.

Many relationships come via "friends of friends". You need to cast a wider net.
problem is i spend most of my time working, there aren't many women my age that work here, and i'm definately the only girl in the department, probably my best friend at work is 6 years younger than me, so we can't really hang out at bars and stuff, so yeah my social circle is a little small... The guys at work want me to try online dating, but i really don't know that kinda creeps me out a little...

[kwok_talk]

Many relationships come via "friends of friends". You need to cast a wider net.

I very much agree. One great benefit of that is that you almost have a "screening process" built in, since your friends will know you well and not recommend anyone who would completely be wrong for you. Friends of family and friends outside of work can expand the population of potentials. It can be a little blow to the pride at first asking for helping in getting set up, but the rewards can definitely outweigh that.

[tokenuser]

problem is i spend most of my time working, there aren't many women my age that work here, and i'm definately the only girl in the department, probably my best friend at work is 6 years younger than me, so we can't really hang out at bars and stuff, so yeah my social circle is a little small... The guys at work want me to try online dating, but i really don't know that kinda creeps me out a little...I understand the problem - its not that unusual.

Online dating might be an option. A very good friend of ours met her husband though an online site. We didn't know the struggle she went through to get there - we met them after they were dating.

Before going down that route, have you thought about taking a course at a local community college? Something hobby based you might be interested in rather than vocational. Something like digital photography that will have a mix of people in it. Or dancing ... not because of the guys you might meet there (my wife found the single guys to be a little creepy), but because of the girls you NEED to become friends with. Hopefully if you widen your social circle then you can meet soemone via the friend of a friend philosophy. This approach takes time - it is a farming strategy, and not a hunting strategy.

[decemberfall]

I understand the problem - its not that unusual.

Online dating might be an option. A very good friend of ours met her husband though an online site. We didn't know the struggle she went through to get there - we met them after they were dating.

Before going down that route, have you thought about taking a course at a local community college? Something hobby based you might be interested in rather than vocational. Something like digital photography that will have a mix of people in it. Or dancing ... not because of the guys you might meet there (my wife found the single guys to be a little creepy), but because of the girls you NEED to become friends with. Hopefully if you widen your social circle then you can meet soemone via the friend of a friend philosophy. This approach takes time - it is a farming strategy, and not a hunting strategy.
i would have been okay if all my friends from college hadn't immediately gotten married and moved off. I'd actually been considering going back to get my masters, or just going back to take some refresher courses on my major (like i'm in serious need of a good VB 2005 class, cause i learned VB6 and was very fond of it!) Problem with the community college is that we have 2 fairly large universities in the area, so the people that go to community college tend to be a little creepy (I actually worked there as a lab tech before I started the job i'm at now) and most of them are older and not wanting to go to regular college to attend classes. I think i'm just having trouble finding people with similar interests, especially since my interests are a little mixed for both sexes (example, i love cars and fashion design, etc.) and I have a little bit of social anxiety, okay a lot, unless i'm in certain situations, like I won't go out to a bar unless I know there are going to be several people there that I am comfortable with...

I dunno the more I talk the more I sound like a loser... ha ha

[decemberfall]

okay, i want a guy translation for the statment "i think you're a nice person to work with"

[magunwarrior]

Translation: He's not in to you.

[starscream80]

okay, i want a guy translation for the statment "i think you're a nice person to work with"

Not interest.

[masherscf]

okay, i want a guy translation for the statment "i think you're a nice person to work with"

Men aren't that complex. It probably means that he thinks you're a nice person to work with.

However, he's probably not interested or too much of a loser to say that he is interested. Either way, you should drop him...

[decemberfall]

Men aren't that complex. It probably means that he thinks you're a nice person to work with.

However, he's probably not interested or too much of a loser to say that he is interested. Either way, you should drop him...
well that came from the electrician last night, he was at work yesterday and wanted to talk to me and couldn't cause I was stuck on a 4 hour support call... so we were texting last night (he bought a text package finally so we could) we talked for like an hour and a half, and he finally asked me about this email someone had sent me that supposedly his mom had called around asking about me, and as I was telling him about it he said "that's really rude, I didn't give them permission to email you, you're a really nice person to work with"

oh yeah, did i mention he grew up German Baptist (for those of you that don't know it's very similiar to being amish)...

Our maintenance guy at work said he is really really shy, and during the texting i told him that in the email it said his mom knew about us texting and had heard about him talking about me at work (which I know he does cause when guys he works with come into work, they all know my name) and he didn't deny that, but said that the email sounds like something his mom would try and do...

[tokenuser]

well that came from the electrician last night, he was at work yesterday and wanted to talk to me and couldn't cause I was stuck on a 4 hour support call... so we were texting last night (he bought a text package finally so we could) we talked for like an hour and a half, and he finally asked me about this email someone had sent me that supposedly his mom had called around asking about me, and as I was telling him about it he said "that's really rude, I didn't give them permission to email you, you're a really nice person to work with"

oh yeah, did i mention he grew up German Baptist (for those of you that don't know it's very similiar to being amish)...

Our maintenance guy at work said he is really really shy, and during the texting i told him that in the email it said his mom knew about us texting and had heard about him talking about me at work (which I know he does cause when guys he works with come into work, they all know my name) and he didn't deny that, but said that the email sounds like something his mom would try and do...First up German Baptist is an anabaptist religion, more like Mennonite than Amish - extremely principled and ordered, but they don't shun technology. They CAN seem very insular to "outsiders" and overly protective of "their own". Depending on their schooling, like most anabaptists, they may well have strict rules on relationships - not so much as "thou shalt not ..." type thing, but social norms that you might find odd.

Given the guys background, and the fact he got a text package just so he can talk to you, and the fact he hs talked about you to other he works with, I would say he is probably being more reserved than anything else. the fact his mother is poking around means he has mentioned you to her as well - a good sign, unless it is "there is this freaky chick at the place I do work sometimes that wont leave me alone". Depending on what his current situation is with his faith/upbringing he might like you, but be uncomfortable in asking directly.

Suggest to him that you meet for coffee, or a movie. Something in a non-threatening, PUBLIC, non-work environment. See if he is interested in doing it after work one day rather than on a weekend (Fri/Sat night and weekends in general do seem more like a date ). Just keep it friendly, and see where it takes you. It might be nowhere, but unless you try you wont know.

[beta7]

you want my advice? a guy is like a dam jack in the box, you never know when and what they'll do

[decemberfall]

First up German Baptist is an anabaptist religion, more like Mennonite than Amish - extremely principled and ordered, but they don't shun technology. They CAN seem very insular to "outsiders" and overly protective of "their own". Depending on their schooling, like most anabaptists, they may well have strict rules on relationships - not so much as "thou shalt not ..." type thing, but social norms that you might find odd.

Given the guys background, and the fact he got a text package just so he can talk to you, and the fact he hs talked about you to other he works with, I would say he is probably being more reserved than anything else. the fact his mother is poking around means he has mentioned you to her as well - a good sign, unless it is "there is this freaky chick at the place I do work sometimes that wont leave me alone". Depending on what his current situation is with his faith/upbringing he might like you, but be uncomfortable in asking directly.

Suggest to him that you meet for coffee, or a movie. Something in a non-threatening, PUBLIC, non-work environment. See if he is interested in doing it after work one day rather than on a weekend (Fri/Sat night and weekends in general do seem more like a date ). Just keep it friendly, and see where it takes you. It might be nowhere, but unless you try you wont know.
Token I didn't mean any offense by it, I just was trying to lay it out in basic terms, I don't know much about the religion other than the few pieces i've found on the net and what little he has told me, I do know he told me last night that basically he doesn't follow everything, i know he goes to church, cause he told me about going to communion there (but according to the girl that sent me the email he hasn't officially joined the church), but unlike his parents, he does own a television, radio and computer... and he no longer lives with them.

I don't know if he got a text package just to talk to me, but he used to text me when he didn't have one and then told me one night after like 30 messages that he had to pay for them, I offered to pay for them and he wouldn't let me, i know that got back to his work because it was mentioned in the email that I was sent, and he's the only one that knew about it. The email said basically that his mom knew about me, knew we were talking and wanted to pass it along to me that he was German Baptist and wasn't allowed to date me, which he said is not true.

I'm not very good at asking people out, he did wait around for me one day after work to show me some work he'd done on a new room at work, he stayed around for an hour and a half and showed me how he organized the new van he bought and told me how he'd like to get a laptop and have a program made (he knows i'm a programmer) to keep track of all the supplies he has so he can properly bill them to the customers and restock.

I did call him one night just to talk and to see if he wanted to do something, he was at a friends house and he texted me back the next night to apologize for not being able to answer the call. But he has never answered the phone when I have called, he usually just texts me back.

[decemberfall]

you want my advice? a guy is like a dam jack in the box, you never know when and what they'll do
i think that's the best advice i've heard... but I think it's true of all people... I wish things were just always simple...

[virgilthechicken]

I don't get it, you like him, he likes you. You want to take things further, he doesn't. You shouldn't just throw away your friendship because of that. Friendship is rare, do you know what I'm sayin' to ya?

[decemberfall]

I don't get it, you like him, he likes you. You want to take things further, he doesn't. You shouldn't just throw away your friendship because of that. Friendship is rare, do you know what I'm sayin' to ya?
well if you're referring to the first guy, he doesn't want a friendship apparently because he stopped talking to me after i asked him if he wanted to go out sometime, i've tried talking to him twice, once he completely ignored me, and the other time he made a rude comment to me, i tried to make a joke out of it and he again didn't respond, so I've given up on him completely.

[masherscf]

...i've tried talking to him twice, once he completely ignored me, and the other time he made a rude comment to me, i tried to make a joke out of it and he again didn't respond...

Mighty sporting of him to act like a complete asshole to make you glad he said no... Most of the time, men wait until after they sleep with a woman to act like that.

[beta7]

i think that's the best advice i've heard... but I think it's true of all people... I wish things were just always simple...
that depends on how logical the person is lol sometimes it well actualy it all depends.... it can never be too simple cuz the more logical you are the easyer you make decisions but at the same time its difficult to make decisions based on emotion lol and its just all wack... but you know what... when you'll find the guy, 1. you wont know it 2. it will hit you before you know it. and 3. you'll like it :D

[decemberfall]

that depends on how logical the person is lol sometimes it well actualy it all depends.... it can never be too simple cuz the more logical you are the easyer you make decisions but at the same time its difficult to make decisions based on emotion lol and its just all wack... but you know what... when you'll find the guy, 1. you wont know it 2. it will hit you before you know it. and 3. you'll like it :D
yeah, ha ha, we have a guy from the company that supplies our main software application coming in house, i've already been told to stay away from him... yeah i realize that when i find the right guy things will be easier than this... I guess I just have to keep waiting...

[decemberfall]

Mighty sporting of him to act like a complete asshole to make you glad he said no... Most of the time, men wait until after they sleep with a woman to act like that.
yeah, made my life a heck of a lot easier... I don't have to worry about him at all, and one of his buddies saw me interacting with the electrician on Friday, so i'm sure it's gotten back to him already (i was teasing the electrician about seeing me being the highlight of his day and such...)

[beta7]

yeah, ha ha, we have a guy from the company that supplies our main software application coming in house, i've already been told to stay away from him... yeah i realize that when i find the right guy things will be easier than this... I guess I just have to keep waiting...
dont wait... but dont force it either... cuz if you keep waiting then your relying on him to come to you... why not let him come to you but you go to him aswell :P ( what im saying is get out there have fun go to a club or something and let him come to you... ) and as for forcing it... well its simple.. a guy cant be changed but he ill change if he loves ya.

[decemberfall]

dont wait... but dont force it either... cuz if you keep waiting then your relying on him to come to you... why not let him come to you but you go to him aswell :P ( what im saying is get out there have fun go to a club or something and let him come to you... ) and as for forcing it... well its simple.. a guy cant be changed but he ill change if he loves ya.
good advice, that's always a problem i have is trying to force it because i'm impatient... I haven't been on a date in so long and the guy i dated the longest no longer talks to me for unknown reasons, so yeah, I think i'll just give up again for awhile, I had before i met the first guy, i just said I wasn't going to try with anyone for awhile, then i met him and my mind got changed, but I think it's officially been changed back...

I don't try to change them, i don't want to change them, i just don't understand why no one is ever interested.

[tokenuser]

Token I didn't mean any offense by it, I just was trying to lay it out in basic terms, I don't know much about the religion other than the few pieces i've found on the net and what little he has told me, I do know he told me last night that basically he doesn't follow everything, i know he goes to church, cause he told me about going to communion there (but according to the girl that sent me the email he hasn't officially joined the church), but unlike his parents, he does own a television, radio and computer... and he no longer lives with them. No offense taken. I am not religious at all, but looked into the Anabaptist faiths for a contract we were working on for a fraternal insurance group - I didn't want to offend anyone in the room by my actions or what I said, ate or drank.

One thing I learnt about the Anabaptists is that they get baptised twice. Once as a baby for naming purposes, and "protection" but that does not admit you to the church, as they feel that being admitted to the church it a decision you can't make until you are an adult, at which time you are rebaptised. Until that time you attend church, but are not part of the church. Its a complex structure :)

I did call him one night just to talk and to see if he wanted to do something, he was at a friends house and he texted me back the next night to apologize for not being able to answer the call. But he has never answered the phone when I have called, he usually just texts me back.Ask him next time you are face to face. He could be hiding behind text messages to hide is shyness.

[decemberfall]

No offense taken. I am not religious at all, but looked into the Anabaptist faiths for a contract we were working on for a fraternal insurance group - I didn't want to offend anyone in the room by my actions or what I said, ate or drank.

One thing I learnt about the Anabaptists is that they get baptised twice. Once as a baby for naming purposes, and "protection" but that does not admit you to the church, as they feel that being admitted to the church it a decision you can't make until you are an adult, at which time you are rebaptised. Until that time you attend church, but are not part of the church. Its a complex structure :)

I understand, I didn't mean to offend anyone either, I was just basing it off what I knew, that double baptism does make since, I always wondered why churches didn't do that... and I'm thinking that since he's 24, owns a TV, radio and computer, it's not looking good for the church :)


Ask him next time you are face to face. He could be hiding behind text messages to hide is shyness.

That's precisely the problem, that's what I'm doing... i'm too nervous to ask him in person, I almost did once, the night he stayed after for an hour and a half, I actually thought he was going to ask me, but my boss stopped by to look at the room as well, so he got all nervous and was talking really fast, showing my boss all the gadgets and such. Then when he left the topic was changed.

[lefrenzy]

it could be diff-religion. Sometimes dating goes awry when she finds out I don't believe in God.

Don't beat yourself up too much.

Not every man out there wants a relationship, same with women. We want one, then we don't want one.

After a break-up, you think "relationships are evil" and you say **** it for a while. Eventually you change your mind.

The best advice I can give you is not to try so hard. Anytime you make a huge deal out of something, it breaks up. I know it's lame, but sometimes that's how it goes.

Crazy to think excitement ruins early relationships but it does.

I have gone for a "laissez-faire" approach. Stop going fishing. Let the fishes bump into you.

You're still young. Relax.

[decemberfall]

it could be diff-religion. Sometimes dating goes awry when she finds out I don't believe in God.

Don't beat yourself up too much.

Not every man out there wants a relationship, same with women. We want one, then we don't want one.

After a break-up, you think "relationships are evil" and you say **** it for a while. Eventually you change your mind.

The best advice I can give you is not to try so hard. Anytime you make a huge deal out of something, it breaks up. I know it's lame, but sometimes that's how it goes.

Crazy to think excitement ruins early relationships but it does.

I have gone for a "laissez-faire" approach. Stop going fishing. Let the fishes bump into you.

You're still young. Relax.
man you guys are so supportive, it's great!

Yeah the last guy that really liked me the problem was with relgion, he was openly athiest, and I believe in God, I ended the relationship after I found out because I didn't want it to go any further because that is a major difference to deal with, being different sects of Christian I don't think is that huge of a deal though...

we had a joke in college about fishing, just made me think of it and start laughing, but seriously I think that's what going to happen, too bad I don't go out much and I don't think many fish are going to bump into me at home... but I think i'll eventually get out there.

Thanks again everyone for everything!

[decemberfall]

okay, so I think the electrician is mad at me, I had to call him around 5 (it was like 5:08) cause of this project were working on, the construction guy needed to talk to him, so I call and say hey and tell him there is someone that wants to talk to him, and he says okay and i pass the phone over, well afterwards I send him a text to say sorry for bothering him and ask him when he's supposed to be in house cause it's supposed to be Tues or Wed. So I wait an hour, no response, so i send him another one, asking how his day went and hoping he had lots of indoor jobs so he could stay warm (it was high in the single digits today)... again no response... I can't win for losing.

Oh and the guy i originally posted about, i saw him in person for the first time today, and it happened to be while I was on the phone with the electrician, he was like hitting on this lady at work that is 14 years older than him, has 2 kids and is currently engaged, he was laughing and giggling at her, soooo glad I passed on that one!!!

[decemberfall]

just as an addition the electrician just told me he has a girlfriend and basically to stop texting him...

so i'm gonna go home and drown myself in the tub (not really, don't worry, i'm just sad)

[lefrenzy]

just as an addition the electrician just told me he has a girlfriend and basically to stop texting him...

so i'm gonna go home and drown myself in the tub (not really, don't worry, i'm just sad)

Don't Worry Be Happy (http://www.superlaugh.com/1/behappy.htm).

you're the crying pacman on the left

i'm the singing pacman on the right.

[decemberfall]

Don't Worry Be Happy (http://www.superlaugh.com/1/behappy.htm).

you're the crying pacman on the left

i'm the singing pacman on the right.
I'll look at it when I get home...

I just want to know why he didn't tell me like 8 months ago when I met him... he's never mentioned it this entire time.

[synack]

I officially don't understand guys in the slightest.



Einstien was once asked if there is anything he did not know. His reply was

(afaik) "What women really want". So I think we are all here in the same boat.

Try to understand yourself first then look into us. I suppose we like beer, food

sex and silence. Hope this helps.

synack.

[decemberfall]

I'll look at it when I get home...

I just want to know why he didn't tell me like 8 months ago when I met him... he's never mentioned it this entire time.
that didn't help a bit, i still just want to cry till I throw up...

[synack]

that didn't help a bit, i still just want to cry till I throw up...

Please don't throw-up, we are all here to help.

Brett.

omg! he has a name!

[decemberfall]

Einstien was once asked if there is anything he did not know. His reply was

(afaik) "What women really want". So I think we are all here in the same boat.

Try to understand yourself first then look into us. I suppose we like beer, food

sex and silence. Hope this helps.

synack.
i'm to the point where i don't think anything will help, i'm officially giving up, I will always be alone, my life sucks and I want to go drown in the bathtub (which I will not do... again just a reference to how devestatingly sad I am)

[synack]

your poor woman, how about a hug, in a pure no sarcastic manner. I love you

all. :)

* synack bounces round the phorum and tries to cheer-up decemberfall.

[synack]

*you*.... anybody got a dictionary handy :/

[synack]

*smile* with the matrix, er, I mean the website below.....

http://www.superlaugh.com/1/legend.htm

synack

[xibalba]

i'm to the point where i don't think anything will help, i'm officially giving up, I will always be alone, my life sucks and I want to go drown in the bathtub (which I will not do... again just a reference to how devestatingly sad I am)

Being alone sucks I am content knowing I will be always alone. You shouldn't let yourself turn into a miserable person, like me. It's difficult to get over stuff like that. Hope you start feel better sooner than later and things start to change for the better for ya.

[decemberfall]

Being alone sucks I am content knowing I will be always alone. You shouldn't let yourself turn into a miserable person, like me. It's difficult to get over stuff like that. Hope you start feel better sooner than later and things start to change for the better for ya.
Really guys thanks for trying, but it's no use, I haven't been on a date in over 6 years, this is the first guy i've met that I completely clicked with, we had a ton in common and I really really liked him, and he waits 8 months to tell me he's dating someone else... I'm devistated, and i'm done pretending it's alright, i'm tired of having my heart broken, i'm seriously not ever doing it again...

[kwok_talk]

Just give it some time and hopefully you can find merit in your current single status. A lot of us (married or not) have had our hearts broken before, and I'm not saying it's something we get over quickly (believe me, I speak from experience), but we can get over it in time, if you allow yourself to heal. As much as being single sometimes sucks, being in a relationship also has its cons too. Both equally have their good and bad points.

Please don't let your relationship status determine your self-worth.

[xibalba]

Really guys thanks for trying, but it's no use, I haven't been on a date in over 6 years, this is the first guy i've met that I completely clicked with, we had a ton in common and I really really liked him, and he waits 8 months to tell me he's dating someone else... I'm devistated, and i'm done pretending it's alright, i'm tired of having my heart broken, i'm seriously not ever doing it again...

I havn't seen anyone in 7 years got tried of being messed with and lied to. Genuine good people are very hard to find. What really hurts is afterwards they try to be friends with you and act like nothing happened or lead ya on making ya think something happened. Most people are asses and lie way to much thats why I avoid them in person and online. It just happened so in a few days or weeks ya may start feeling better.

[decemberfall]

i'm just done, i'm giving up, for a long while...

[xibalba]

You may be giving up for awhile on relationships but seems like ya have friends here on the forums that will try to help the best they can. Might not do much for ya right now, but its better than nothing.

[magunwarrior]

Don't be sad :(

[decemberfall]

Don't be sad :(
it's going to take time, lots and lots of time, I just hope he doesn't come back for any jobs anytime soon

[decemberfall]

it's going to take time, lots and lots of time, I just hope he doesn't come back for any jobs anytime soon
oh and i was going to say a lot of unhealthy foods, but i'm on a diet, so that's not allowed... it actually may help me exercise more because i'm really angry...

[decemberfall]

So today is not any better, and the guys at work are making it worse, they keep saying it's my fault cause I didn't ask the electrician out in November when I was talking to him all the time, and last night I deleted him from my phone contacts and deleted all the texts from him, and you can tell a big difference in the conversations from back in November and now. But still 25 of the 50 messages I've gotten from the guy are from this week. Doesn't matter I guess...

[magunwarrior]

Oh well...

[tokenuser]

From the sound of it, he has had a strong talking to by his mother, and has been seeing a church sanctioned girlfriend (ie a member of the congregation).

Do you really want to date a Momma's Boy?

The fact he didn't make it clear he was "dating" earlier is an issue as well.

Whether that it reality or an excuse, you have to move on.

Regards,
Dr Phil.

[decemberfall]

From the sound of it, he has had a strong talking to by his mother, and has been seeing a church sanctioned girlfriend (ie a member of the congregation).

Do you really want to date a Momma's Boy?

The fact he didn't make it clear he was "dating" earlier is an issue as well.

Whether that it reality or an excuse, you have to move on.

Regards,
Dr Phil.
according to him yesterday his mom knew about me all along and the email was a lie, heck I was even just talking to his dad yesterday... he also said his parents have no authority over him, and his girlfriend is not even from around here (she's from a different state). The whole thing make me really really depressed... i'm even eating mcdonalds chicken nuggets for lunch!

[masherscf]

i'm even eating mcdonalds chicken nuggets for lunch!

Right-on! Give those lil' nuggets what-for!

[tokenuser]

according to him yesterday his mom knew about me all along and the email was a lie, heck I was even just talking to his dad yesterday... he also said his parents have no authority over him, and his girlfriend is not even from around here (she's from a different state). The whole thing make me really really depressed... i'm even eating mcdonalds chicken nuggets for lunch!
mmmmmmmmm .... nuggets ....

[decemberfall]

point is, i'm breaking my diet... which i could be eating something worse, like fries...

[tokenuser]

point is, i'm breaking my diet... which i could be eating something worse, like fries...mmmmmmmmm .... fries ....

AVOID THE ICE CREAM ISLE AT THE SUPERMARKET

[decemberfall]

mmmmmmmmm .... fries ....

AVOID THE ICE CREAM ISLE AT THE SUPERMARKET
i'm allergic to milk, so hence i'm allergic to ice cream... It would more be the turnover isle at wal-mart... but still, i have to keep on my diet, I will show these guys when I loose 30 lbs...

[magunwarrior]

This topic is making me hungry!

[tokenuser]

i'm allergic to milk, so hence i'm allergic to ice cream... It would more be the turnover isle at wal-mart... but still, i have to keep on my diet, I will show these guys when I loose 30 lbs...So, I was right AVOID THE ICECREAM AISLE AT THE SUPERMARKET (btw - isle didn't look right ... just realised it starts with an A. ... even better, avoid Walmart entirely. Their foods not that great. Find a Super Target instead ...

[masherscf]

point is, i'm breaking my diet... which i could be eating something worse, like fries...

You're another one of these "If it's fried, it must be bad for you freaks". McDonald's food is bad because it's laden with trans-fats, not because it is fried.

Food fried in healthy oil at the proper temperature without overloading the fryer are no more unhealthy than most things. .... Thank you A.B.

BTW, what kind of a diet do you follow?

[magunwarrior]

I don't know about you guys but I'm on the South Bronx Paradise Diet.

[masherscf]

I don't know about you guys but I'm on the South Bronx Paradise Diet.

I guess it beats the WOW diet...

[xibalba]

I don't know about you guys but I'm on the South Bronx Paradise Diet.

Doesn't that involve a tape worm? :D

I think I will stick to low carb.

[magunwarrior]

Hey you gotta do what ya gotta do, if it means ingesting a bar everyday that infects me with tapeworm eggs and turns me into a horrible creature, I'll do it.

[decemberfall]

You're another one of these "If it's fried, it must be bad for you freaks". McDonald's food is bad because it's laden with trans-fats, not because it is fried.

Food fried in healthy oil at the proper temperature without overloading the fryer are no more unhealthy than most things. .... Thank you A.B.

BTW, what kind of a diet do you follow?
I'm just on the eat less, move more diet, and I gave up fries for fruits and veggies, it's not an extreme diet, it's a change in lifestyle diet.

[decemberfall]

So, I was right AVOID THE ICECREAM AISLE AT THE SUPERMARKET (btw - isle didn't look right ... just realised it starts with an A. ... even better, avoid Walmart entirely. Their foods not that great. Find a Super Target instead ...
yeah, i knew i misspelled it just didn't feel like editing it, we do not have any super targets around, unless I want to drive an hour or more, but we do have several super wal-marts...

[decemberfall]

I'm just on the eat less, move more diet, and I gave up fries for fruits and veggies, it's not an extreme diet, it's a change in lifestyle diet.
here's a typical weekday menu:

Breakfast half a can of fruit in it's own juice (usually Dole pineapple, tropical fruit or mandarin oranges)

lunch - eat out sandwich (usually a chicken sandwich of some kind) or dish with uncooked baby carrots

snack in the afternoon - other half of the can of fruit

dinner: dish and veggies (usually carrots, brussel sprouts, peas or corn)

desert - 100 calorie pack (which I will be cutting out of the diet within the next 2 weeks (when I run out of packets) or piece of fruit

and on top of that, i drink 3-4 bottles of diet lipton green tea a day and i'm up to riding 3 1/2 miles on my exersize bike a day, my goal is to up it a half mile every week.

I weighed in this morning and i'm down 3.2 lbs since Monday when I weighed in last. Which I just want to loose 20 of fat, so not that much, but it will just be better for me overall

[xibalba]

here's a typical weekday menu:

Breakfast half a can of fruit in it's own juice (usually Dole pineapple, tropical fruit or mandarin oranges)

lunch - eat out sandwich (usually a chicken sandwich of some kind) or dish with uncooked baby carrots

snack in the afternoon - other half of the can of fruit

dinner: dish and veggies (usually carrots, brussel sprouts, peas or corn)

desert - 100 calorie pack (which I will be cutting out of the diet within the next 2 weeks (when I run out of packets) or piece of fruit

and on top of that, i drink 3-4 bottles of diet lipton green tea a day and i'm up to riding 3 1/2 miles on my exersize bike a day, my goal is to up it a half mile every week.

I weighed in this morning and i'm down 3.2 lbs since Monday when I weighed in last. Which I just want to loose 20 of fat, so not that much, but it will just be better for me overall

That all working good? Changing what I eat and eating less of things didn't work for me.
So I am going the low carb route. Had to quit eating potatoes, bread or sugar some of my fav things.
Dropped like 7lbs in 2 weeks.

[decemberfall]

That all working good? Changing what I eat and eating less of things didn't work for me.
So I am going the low carb route. Had to quit eating potatoes, bread or sugar some of my fav things.
Dropped like 7lbs in 2 weeks.
yeah, its working well, i'm sleeping better (which for the first time since i've had this job i've been getting to work on time or early every day) I haven't been loosing a ton of weight, but I can tell a difference already.

[decemberfall]

okay i've discovered that the cure for a broken heart is buying a really huge ass TV, and I just heard a rumor that the owner of the company I work for, that his son might like me... but i'm not buying it until i hear it from him...

[magunwarrior]

Tech heals all wounds.

[decemberfall]

Tech heals all wounds.
a truer statment was never spoken...

[ArmpitOfDeath]

Tech heals all wounds.

Tech papers temporarily over all wounds.

Bummer.