View Full Version : New RSS feeds confusion
mathwhiz
01-28-2011, 01:41 PM
I read the blog post about the changes in RSS feeds/formats and thought I would be fine. I was using the HD MP4 30 fps feeds. Since that format was staying I thought I was set. Then I get the video in my feeds about that my feed may be affected and when I check the webpage for the shows there is no link to the MP4-hd30 feed only links to MP4-High-Definition feeds, but these feeds contain 24 fps episodes. Also, the Tekzilla page doesn't even show a link to a HD RSS feed. Also, the old MP4-hd30 feeds don't match the MP4-High-Definition as to which episodes are in them.
HELP!!!! I'm so confused as to what feed I'm supposed to be using when I thought I didn't have to chance anything. Nothing matches each other or what they said.
Rich
Yeah there's no RSS feeds for the HD version of Tekzilla anymore. Also the new episodes are not showing up on the new Apple TV iTunes HD feeds such as AV talk and unboxing porn.
rylab
01-29-2011, 06:09 PM
The HD vs HD30 issue is a bit more confusing than the other encoding changes. Both existing MP4 "HD" feeds (/MP4-High-Definition and /MP4-hd30) will continue to exist, however both will now contain links to the SAME 720phd30 encode. If you subscribe to any old High-Definition feeds via iTunes, it should automatically switch to the MP4-hd30 feed. So you can now subscribe to the normal High-Definition feed when it's the only HD feed listed on the website, and you will still be getting the higher quality hd30 media.
There may have been delays in the hd30 MP4 files showing up in some of the old High-Definition feeds yesterday as we propagated several changes at different times. But they should all contain every episode in the best possible quality available as of yesterday evening. Hope this makes things more clear!
jdavie87
01-29-2011, 08:29 PM
But they should all contain every episode in the best possible quality available as of yesterday evening. Hope this makes things more clear!
Maybe I'm just using an incorrect link, but this feed (http://revision3.com/tekzilla/feed/quicktime-high-definition?subshow=false) does not have the latest episode. Is there an HD feed that has the latest episode of Tekzilla? I tried looking for one on the Tekzilla page, but there isn't an HD feed listed anymore.
iehova
01-30-2011, 02:53 AM
Is it just me or do the new 30fps shows not work with the old Apple TVs? I also can't get the new shows from iTunes to sync with my iPad. How exactly am I supposed to watch Rev3 HD shows when they won't sync to anything!
efrendal
01-30-2011, 06:40 AM
Maybe I'm just using an incorrect link, but this feed (http://revision3.com/tekzilla/feed/quicktime-high-definition?subshow=false) does not have the latest episode. Is there an HD feed that has the latest episode of Tekzilla? I tried looking for one on the Tekzilla page, but there isn't an HD feed listed anymore.
http://revision3.com/tekzilla/feed/mp4-hd30/?subshow=false
That seems to be working perfectly and it has the latest episode. Strange though that it isn't listed in the Tekzilla subscribe page.
Is it just me or do the new 30fps shows not work with the old Apple TVs? I also can't get the new shows from iTunes to sync with my iPad. How exactly am I supposed to watch Rev3 HD shows when they won't sync to anything!
http://revision3.com/blog/2011/01/19/change-to-revision3-show-formats-%E2%80%93-attention-xvid-wmv-and-appletv-users/
Basically they're saying "either use a lower quality feed or get a new settop box".
jdavie87
01-30-2011, 07:37 AM
http://revision3.com/tekzilla/feed/mp4-hd30/?subshow=false
That seems to be working perfectly and it has the latest episode. Strange though that it isn't listed in the Tekzilla subscribe page.
Awesome, thanks.
iehova
01-30-2011, 04:46 PM
http://revision3.com/tekzilla/feed/mp4-hd30/?subshow=false
That seems to be working perfectly and it has the latest episode. Strange though that it isn't listed in the Tekzilla subscribe page.
http://revision3.com/blog/2011/01/19/change-to-revision3-show-formats-%E2%80%93-attention-xvid-wmv-and-appletv-users/
Basically they're saying "either use a lower quality feed or get a new settop box".
i certainly understand Rev3 not wanting to support old hardware but I still can't get the new HD feed to sync to my iPad. Basically the HD feed is useless to me.
mathwhiz
01-31-2011, 03:19 PM
Still wondering when the switch will be complete. Just checked the Appjudgement feeds MP4-hd30 and MP4-High-Definition and both have the new episode but they are not the same file - so it looks like they are still doing two HD quality shows. Seems like they didn't switch last Monday like they said they would. If my MP4-hd30 feeds keep working I'll be happy, but based on the fact that they got the message that my feed will be changing - I got nervous.
The full length episodes of Tekzilla HD are still not showing up in the Apple TV gen2 iTunes feed.
shaulliv
02-02-2011, 05:01 PM
The newest full episodes of tekzilla are not showing in the Miro quicktime HD feed all I see are the dailys.
Same here still in the iTunes feed on my Gen 2 Apple TV
rylab
02-02-2011, 05:58 PM
Can you guys still having problems include the URL of the actual feeds you're subscribed to that are having problems? I'm seeing the latest HD episode in everything I've thought to check, but I'm probably missing something. We have a lot of feeds. Thanks!
It's only on the Apple TV gen2 iTunes feed within the actual menus so there's no url to enter. Also new Dan 3.0 episodes are not showing up in the HD feed for the newer apple TV.
reffle
02-02-2011, 11:00 PM
I'm having problems with most of my feeds it seems, including Diggnation:
http://revision3.com/diggnation/feed/quicktime-high-definition/
Totally Rad Show: http://revision3.com/trs/feed/mp4-hd30 or http://revision3.com/trs/feed/MP4-High-Definition
yaqson
02-02-2011, 11:28 PM
Destructoid doesn't work either.
http://revision3.com/destructoid/feed/MP4-High-Definition
jerkbot
02-03-2011, 01:33 PM
Why won't any of the HD videos sync to the iPad? Quicktime Large format does sync.
rylab
02-03-2011, 05:53 PM
The most reliable (original) highest quality HD 30fps feed is the "hd30" feed. It seems that some people are not properly getting redirected to the latest media from this feed as expected, when using legacy feeds such as Quicktime / MP4-High-Definition (the 24fps feed).
For example, here is the only current HD feed for Destructoid:
http://revision3.com/destructoid/feed/mp4-hd30
The latest HD media from here /should/ be showing up automatically in the older HD feeds. However, that doesn't seem to be the case in certain circumstances. I've just been able to reproduce the same inconsistency with Dan 3.0. We're still looking into it, and will ensure all legacy feeds do see the new media as reliably. But "mp4-hd30" is the feed to go to for the original current HD MP4 source.
I apologize personally if this transition didn't go smoothly for many of you. We're always listening to feedback about our formats, and adding back another / newer HD MP4 in place of the discontinued one could be a possibility :)
yaqson
02-03-2011, 06:31 PM
Another problem is that there are no MP4 HD feeds listed on the subscribe pages of the shows. The box with the RSS feeds only shows MP4 Large, Small and WMV Large.
Update: Not even today's Tekzilla Daily showed up on the Apple TV HD feed menus today. Dan 3.0's latest episode still hasn't showed up also and there's no download link on the Rev3 page to get it that way.
On a happier note all the Totally Rad Shows are showing up fine on the Apple TV gen2 HD feed. :)
sonictonic
02-04-2011, 01:31 AM
** EDIT: Looks like things are settling down now! All my feeds are working EXCEPT Dan 3.0 **
Thanks Rev3, for working on it. Hard to believe how much I/we viewers have come to rely on you for so much content. Without cable, it's this and TWiT and I'm good! :D
rylab
02-04-2011, 05:03 PM
Dan 3.0 and a few others were fixed a bit later yesterday, but yes all of the legacy feeds should be getting the best-choice existing media, without needing to change your subscriptions. Let me know if anyone is still having any problems!
Update: It looks like the Tekzilla feed on the Apple TV gen2 is fixed and showing the lastest episode. Good Job :)
Dan 3.0 is still not showing the latest episode. The last one put up is #78 Freeze. 79 and 80 are still not there.
rylab
02-04-2011, 10:22 PM
Slym, I am seeing all the correct Dan 3.0 episodes up to HAIR (the latest) in all the known feeds I can test. Can you provide the URL to whatever feed you're subscribed to which isn't seeing those latest two episodes? Also, make sure you're not looking at a cached version of the feed. Thanks.
There's no URL I can give you because I subscribe within the Apple TV menus and not through iTunes. The best way to see it is to use a Apple TV gen2 and look at Dan 3.0 in the podcast section. FREEZE is still latest episode.
sonictonic
02-05-2011, 02:23 AM
RE: Dan 3.0
FREEZE! is the latest episode in my iTunes as well, and I was sub'd to the HD version. ALL of the other HD Rev3 shows in my iTunes updated by themselves.
How come the new HD 30fps feeds are not posted on the shows' pages btw? Are they top secret? LOL
rylab
02-05-2011, 02:41 AM
Within iTunes, to get the URL of a podcast you're subscribed to via their interface, just right-click the Podcast name (e.g. "Dan 3.0 (HD MP4)") and choose "Copy podcast URL" -- then just hit paste in a reply here to let us know what URL you're subscribed through. I just tried in iTunes and that feed is working for me (http://revision3.com/dan30/feed/mp4-hd30) -- try looking at this feed manually and you'll see the latest episodes that way as well.
sonictonic
02-05-2011, 02:47 AM
Thanks Ry, I used the copy podcast url and got the new address! No new episodes though, it's still called HD MP4 in the title of the feed and I have a (!)...
Why would this one not work and all the others changed over just fine? Weeeeeeeird....
http://revision3.com/dan30/feed/mp4-hd30
rylab
02-07-2011, 08:24 PM
I was finally able to reproduce that issue w/ the Dan 3.0 HD feed. Very strange, looks like a caching issue on iTunes end... whatever it is though, we'll do whatever we can to fix it!
sonictonic
02-07-2011, 08:25 PM
Cool Ry, thanks. =)
Yeah! Thanks for working on this Ry.
Update: Still no new episodes of Dan 3.0. Just updating ya on the HD feed for the Apple TV gen2
rylab
02-10-2011, 09:18 PM
We are currently working with Apple to fix the DB 3.0 HD feed, they're not sure what's happening either. If you look at the feed directly, the new episodes are all there -- and the feed validates correctly as well. I would recommend subscribing using something other than iTunes for the time being!
Yeah, I've been watching through the youtube app instead. Thanks again for the update.
Can someone PLEASE address the iTunes sync issue?
It really makes no sense at all: if I subscribe to a Rev3 show from the iTunes Store on my Mac, the episodes won’t transfer to my iPad. It seems like this would be a huge issue, but when it comes up here it just gets ignored.
It it possible that I am the only person who watches the podcasts on my iPad? If this is simply not a priority, could someone just be candid about that?
jerkbot
02-11-2011, 07:06 PM
I assume you are subscribing to the HD feeds. I believe the issue is related to the h264 profile Revision 3 uses. They use 3.2 when the iPad only supports up to 3.1. That's why they will not sync through iTunes and if you download an HD episode directly on the iPad, it is removed next sync.
Oh, I understand the root cause of the issue.
What I do not understand is why Revision3 does not either fix it or explain why in the world they would not…
See?
The silence is deafening.
rylab
02-24-2011, 06:07 PM
Our encoding process isn't something anyone here wants to get into the details of, but I will just say, with content coming in from all over the country (or sometimes the world) it can get...complicated to cover all our bases. Change is not as fast as encoding a single episode on your own system a few different ways, when you provide it through as many channels at once as we do every day -- but everyone involved here is listening to all the feedback viewers provide.
I will be posting up a short survey with a few new H264 encode variations next week, we'd love some input on how the new potential encodes play back on all your favorite devices -- it'll be a new thread, but I will post the link to it here, too :)
It's FIXED. Dan 3.0 is now updating on the Apple TV gen2. Thanks for whatever you fixed rylab. :)
Now Apple needs to fix the YouTube subscriptions with the latest 4.3 update messing them up.