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tokenuser

10-18-2006, 02:53 AM

I really want to know what peters powers are. Can he fly or does he take other people's powers? The flying thing would make more sense because he said he could levitate a little bit in the first episode. And the painter draws him flying in one of the paintings.Only when his brother was around. Ditto seeing into the future - only after seeing the painter. He is sort of a Rogue style chracter - temporarily absorbing the powers of other mutuants he encounters ... kind of a meta power I guess.

Also, does anyone else find the powers sort of unbalanced? Not everyone can be Superman ... some heroes just get to swim underwater and talk to fish.

dego_lankar

10-18-2006, 09:10 AM

darksydeavenger

10-18-2006, 10:14 AM

jawapunkin

10-18-2006, 11:22 AM

I think Sylar is the chick that is helping Mohinder.
It would be bad ass to have a female baddy.

soundwave2-0

10-18-2006, 01:56 PM

Peter should be able to borrow powers from others that have superpowers. He can NOT absorb personaltes, memories and the like, form touching through skin to skin contact. sometimes rendering the person unconscious like Rogue. Rouge can steel skills from normal people.

Also, If Nathan can fly. Living together from childhood, maybe, some of Nathen's flight ability might of "rubbed off" on Peter.

i think token just used rogue as an example of someone whos power is taken from other ppl. i don't think he can do what rogue does exactly...just the borrowing part. the ppl he borrows from will prolly still have their powers too.

as far as nathan being around peter growing up and that maybe that power rubbed off on him....that is assuming they all had their powers from birth. it might have been dormant in them, but i think something triggered it so all of these ppl developed powers at the same time. my guess would be the eclipse in the pilot. hell...it's part of the logo for the show.

soundwave2-0

10-18-2006, 02:00 PM

Man, I'd be pissed as all hell if it turned out that my brother had the ability of flight and the only reason I could fly was because I was near him. Taking other peoples' powers is quite possibly one of the lamest skills I've ever seen.

imagine if you could harness that power though...actually control it. then when you are on a team like the x-men or what not...you would be th most powerful one there. fighting a super villian? not a problem...you have his power too.

i do think that they will all team up. hiro from the future knew peter and the scar prolly came from some battle. it had to be some time into the futre cause hiro spoke perfect english.

tokenuser

10-18-2006, 03:49 PM

i think token just used rogue as an example of someone whos power is taken from other ppl. i don't think he can do what rogue does exactly...just the borrowing part. the ppl he borrows from will prolly still have their powers too.Thats exactly what I meant ... and given that he was flying with his brother, and in "suspended time" with Hiro, I think it is fair to say that the people he borrows from maintain their powers as well.

abacusand13south

10-18-2006, 04:25 PM

Back to Niki the stripper and her ex husband stuff, I think he definately has something to do with it like someone else said he can possess peoples bodies or something, kinda like that one chick in Excalibur. Hes also being played in the show by Leonard Roberts from Buffy (damn you TV Guide with all the spolierly info) and I dont think they would use him unless there was big plans for the character.

muss

10-18-2006, 05:31 PM

May be the kid has powers as well.

I have been thinking along the same lines. There isn't any real evidence that he can do anything special, but my gut feeling is he will play a big role in the future.

slowmtnsilhouette

10-18-2006, 07:05 PM

I have been thinking along the same lines. There isn't any real evidence that he can do anything special, but my gut feeling is he will play a big role in the future.

he kinda reminds me of alex from the runaways...

bravestarr

10-18-2006, 07:09 PM

he kinda reminds me of alex from the runaways...

thought the same thing. if they did like an Our Gang style live-action rip of the Runaways he'd play Alex.

i think he's the little smart dude from My Wife and Kids too. poor little guy's being type casted.

slowmtnsilhouette

10-18-2006, 07:15 PM

i think he's the little smart dude from My Wife and Kids too. poor little guy's being type casted.

he is... that sucks.

josborne

10-18-2006, 09:50 PM

I thought they let a huge opportunity for a great comedic shot slip right on by when they had Claire just get up off the morgue table and sneak out without being seen. Wouldn't it have been great to have her wait until the Coroner was standing over top of her and yell, "Hey! Stop touching that! That's mine!"
Or, "Would you mind giving me a hand pushing all this back together?"

mikeydub

10-18-2006, 10:04 PM

I didn't like the first few episodes, but this newest one made me appreciate the show.

It might have been the time traveling samurai. I'm a sucker for shit like that.

josborne

10-18-2006, 10:08 PM

been there. seen that.

and she's not that hot in my book... definitely not on the list.

sorry, sms. Just a lame attempt at humor. And I agree with you, not the hottest actress around, but her acting has gotten better.
I wonder who decided which character would have which powers? 'Cause I can see arguments made for Claire to have the split personality, and for Niki to be the invincible one.

darknessgp

10-18-2006, 11:37 PM

sorry, sms. Just a lame attempt at humor. And I agree with you, not the hottest actress around, but her acting has gotten better.
I wonder who decided which character would have which powers? 'Cause I can see arguments made for Claire to have the split personality, and for Niki to be the invincible one.

I think they made the right choices. Niki's split personality has so far come out only from necesity. She needs to do this, but doesn't want to. So her other half takes over.

Claire being "invincible" (which she really isn't btw) makes sense for a teenager, as most tend to believe they can not be hurt. and I say she is not invincible, because she can be hurt and she can die. As it would appear if she is impaled or something blocking the healing it won't heal. i.e. the bone sticking from her side in episode 1 and the tree root in her head. She did technically die with the tree root, as otherwise her heart would still be beating as well as she would have brain activity. And if she had either one of those I would believe the coroner would not be performing an autopsy.

I really liked the part where future Hiro comes back. This makes me actually think that the writers have an actual overall story for the series rather than how some show's writers seem to only have a few episodes ahead of the current one. Atleast with this we know they have a plan for x number of episodes down the road.

slowmtnsilhouette

10-19-2006, 12:15 AM

josborne

10-19-2006, 09:25 AM

Claire being "invincible" (which she really isn't btw) makes sense for a teenager, as most tend to believe they can not be hurt.

Okay, so "invincible" wasn't really the term I was going for, that's just the first I came up with.
But, you're definately right about having an overall plan for the series. I'm just not sure they're going to be able to hook enough people in to get another season out of NBC. It's possible, but I don't know... I just have this feeling NBC will probably do something stupid like move it to Thursday nights to go heads-up with CSI or Sundays to go up against Desperate Housewives. I really pray they're not that dumb, but network TV never has seemed too bright to me.

And SMS, just wanted to make sure I wasn't pissing off one of the Dromettes. I've only been around a short while, but even I know you don't f@#$ with a Dromette...... :D

diela

10-19-2006, 01:52 PM

even I know you don't f@#$ with a Dromette...... :D

Damn skippy. Good call. :D

coldhammer

10-19-2006, 02:47 PM

I'm loving the show! But since when is blacking out and having a psychotic episode a super power. If thats true, then Roseanne Barr can be a super.She has all kind of peronalities. And what is with "Rag-Doll Physics Girl". Put her through a wood chipper and she will die. Unless someone took the time to put her back together. And "Proximity Boy", sucks to be him. Can only be super around other supers. He wil have to tether himself to someone during a fight I guess.
Sound critical? Yeah.
Just watching because of Hiro. I always love space-time continuum stories.
Oh, why does the artist only paint the bad stuff that happens in the future?

tokenuser

10-19-2006, 02:47 PM

I'm just not sure they're going to be able to hook enough people in to get another season out of NBC. It's possible, but I don't know... Heroes was originally signed on for a half season. Its initial numbers were good enough to get a full season signed.

NBC are pretty cluey here. As the owner of the SciFi channel, they have also been showing Heroes as a "repeat" on Friday nights. This is a win/win for all of us. I suspect that if the numbers eventually aren't good enough for NBC, it might stick around on SciFi. You can tell NBC are sinking some serious $$$ into SciFi lately with the shows it is producing just for that channel.

Markets are changing, and NBC know that shows like this appeal to the Tivo generation, and a particularly affluent crowd are the SciFi fans that will latch onto quality programs with epic story lines - then buy the box DVD set each Xmas.

cypher000

10-20-2006, 04:34 AM

Am I the only person who thinks that the strippers split personality probably killed her husband when he escaped from prison after being blamed for the murders she committed in the first place

xxxthundercatxxx

10-20-2006, 04:46 AM

Am I the only person who thinks that the strippers split personality probably killed her husband when he escaped from prison after being blamed for the murders she committed in the first place

Am I the only one that thinks this guy is Hiro from the future telling us of what's to come?

satori

10-20-2006, 07:31 AM

Am I the only one that thinks this guy is Hiro from the future telling us of what's to come?

Am I the only one that thinks this guy is Hiro from the future telling us of what's to come.... in bed?

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m231/satori3000/birches.jpg

seumas

10-20-2006, 07:42 AM

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darknessgp

10-20-2006, 04:04 PM

I don't know that he looked much like Hiro (though it was dark), but I'm putting my money on that as well, if only for the fact that it seems unlikely they're going to introduce yet more "heroes" so soon.

It is Hiro. I know because he says "My name is Hiro Nakamura" and that he is from the future. Not to mention he is, so far, the only person with the power to bend time/space continum

seumas

10-20-2006, 04:14 PM

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slowmtnsilhouette

10-20-2006, 06:09 PM

The "girl power, safe amateur alterna girl porn" thing is just a marketing thing and could not be farther from the turth. I'm thrilled that they packed up their shit and moved out of Portland. The company is not run by the woman. It's run by her ex-husband. He's known to proposition, manipulate, cheat and abuse the models. I was with a Suicide Girl for awhile and heard all the stories from her friends too many times to count. It's a brilliant business strategy though. Get people to buy into the "pro-girl amateur" thing, then attract total attention whores who don't mind that you're going to use the hell out of them for $200-$300 and then turn around and make thousands on your end. Hurrah!

SuicideGirls revolt: Close to 40 of the punk-rock-porn models walk off the site (http://www.bostonphoenix.com/boston/news_features/other_stories/documents/05016155.asp)

I have refused to be associated with them in any way through my site, advertisements or anything else. Just because someone is an attention whore and thinks that someone taking advantage of them makes them a "model" (and honest, what alternative chick doesn't claim she's a model?) doesn't justify someone mistreating them.

Give the Boston Pheonix article a read.

thats why im a wrecking girl... the co-owners are some of my best friends (both girls) and im also a high-up and help run it...

and i think its badass that hiro comes back all samurai style... hes my favorite hero...

abacusand13south

10-20-2006, 06:17 PM

I didn't hear him say anything when I watched it (maybe the sound on the feed faded for all I know), but he sure didn't look like Hiro to me. I wouldn't presume that only one person can have each power, either.

Still, Hiro is by far the most compelling character so far.

And man, is the chick with the ailing father completely hot, or what? I'd watch the show just for that. Albeit, with the sound off.

Yeah there is no question at all that its Hiro from the future because like previously stated he said he was Hiro from the future.

josborne

10-20-2006, 07:42 PM

And man, is the chick with the ailing father completely hot, or what? I'd watch the show just for that. Albeit, with the sound off.
I'm with you there, sound or no sound. She reminds me of Gina Torres from Firefly.

muled

10-20-2006, 08:29 PM

thats why im a wrecking girl... the co-owners are some of my best friends (both girls) and im also a high-up and help run it...

Does that mean there are pics of barely clothed slowmtn out on the web?
*drools*

darksydeavenger

10-24-2006, 03:16 AM

Saw the newest episode...holy crap. It was interesting. I'm definitely curious to see what you guys thought about it. Personally, I wish they could have tacked on episode six to the end of this one.

proglodyte

10-24-2006, 03:34 AM

Just finished tonights episode. WOW! I thought this show started out weak in the first couple episodes, but this one and the one last week were awesome. I loved the sonic boom when Nathan took off. I loved that more characters archs are coming together. Just great stuff. I know what you mean darksyde, I wish so many of my shows were 2 hours long every week. I am becoming every bit as addicted to this show as I am Lost and Battlestar Galactica.

psbp516

10-24-2006, 03:44 AM

paulsaves

10-24-2006, 03:58 AM

Nathan flying kicked ass. This episode actually cleared alot of stuff up. Finally they are starting to connect, and finally we are starting to see the extent of the
characters powers. This show is really getting a whole lot better. Can't wait till next week :)

Yeah, the flying was awesome. 15 minutes didn't even pass and I needed a new pair of underwear. I'm still trying to understand Peter's powers though, I may be a little slow, but can someone explain it to me?

psbp516

10-24-2006, 04:02 AM

Yeah, the flying was awesome. 15 minutes didn't even pass and I needed a new pair of underwear. I'm still trying to understand Peter's powers though, I may be a little slow, but can someone explain it to me?

He borrows other peoples powers, like rogue but it doesn't hurt them, he doesn't have to touch them, and it last longer. I think he will probably be the most important character when they are all brought together. Imagine if he had super-strength, speed and fighting skills (niki), time stopping abilities (hiro), could fly (nathan), could read people's minds (police officer), and could regenerate really fast (cheerleader). Wow he would kick ass.

bravestarr

10-24-2006, 06:07 AM

so i guess the gangsta pop isn't living inside Niki. oh well, i like my idea better.

that's an interesting notion of Peter being able to absorb more than one power at a time. could be a way of battling Sylar. unless he is Sylar from the future having figured out how to retain everyone’s powers. hmmmmm.

jonathanlondon

10-24-2006, 06:11 AM

The only thing that didn't work for me here was the cop in the convenience store.

satori

10-24-2006, 06:14 AM

I'm pretty sure we've already discussed tranference of powers, and Hiro confirmed that he is the key to everything. So is the dad good or evil?

bravestarr

10-24-2006, 06:16 AM

So is the dad good or evil?

he's evil, but he's still a dad. no matter my intentions i'd take a shot at a dude who tried to rape the girl i raised as my daughter (or anyone for that matter).

guano

10-24-2006, 06:21 AM

Bravestar, you and your crazy plot twist ideas. I heard that there was going to be a character who could phase, but I didn't guess it was going to be Nikki's ex. I can't wait to see the ensuing berserker vs. phaser battle.

Haha, Hiro doesn't want to use his powers for personal gain because it leads to the Dark Side. That was awesome when Hiro's friend went to Nikki's house.

kaine

10-24-2006, 06:27 AM

guano

10-24-2006, 06:39 AM

kaine

10-24-2006, 06:46 AM

I just must have a feeling that the Father is not evil but not necessary a great guy. If he was evil I would have expected him to kill the kid who he wiped clean or executing every hero he came in contact with rather then drawing his gun then putting it down allowing him to escape.

diela

10-24-2006, 01:40 PM

point5o

10-24-2006, 02:04 PM

Agreed. It reminded me way too much of the Buffy episode with a similar theme. He never should have picked up the gun in the first place. Not while out of uniform. You'd think the store owner would know he is a cop though... just from day to day living.

Sonic boom was cool. After the episode was over, hubby and I went back to watch it again. I'm now not sure what side Nathan Petrelli is going to be on... seems like the "heroes" are slowly but surely all meeting each other.

I had him pegged as the nemesis who ends up dropping the bomb in NY, like the politician on "Dead Zone" but I guess he could possibly end up being one of the good guys.

And Peter absorbing the power, and finishing the painting while NOT high... that's awesome. Maybe now the painter will realize that he can use his power without drugs. The drugs were probably meant as a plot device to get Peter to meet him.

Nathan is definitely a politician but not a villain. I never thought he was the one that is going to drop the bomb. There's not much background on Isaac, but I think he was an addict before he developed powers. So, he thinks he needs the drugs to use them.

tokenuser

10-24-2006, 02:10 PM

The only thing that didn't work for me here was the cop in the convenience store.Agreed. It reminded me way too much of the Buffy episode with a similar theme. He never should have picked up the gun in the first place. Not while out of uniform. You'd think the store owner would know he is a cop though... just from day to day living.I disagree on this one. His powers have just woken up, and he is being overloaded with other peoples thoughts. Thats enought to make your head explode - let alone just pass out. When he was one-on-one with his wife, it was OK - and when he was in public, it was OK as well, EXCEPT when everyones thoughts were being directed AT him. All superheroes need a vulnerability (it is on page one of the super heroes manual isn't it?).

Sonic boom was cool. After the episode was over, hubby and I went back to watch it again. I'm now not sure what side Nathan Petrelli is going to be on... seems like the "heroes" are slowly but surely all meeting each other.Nathan Petrelli - I got the feeling he is conflicted. He might end up being the corrupt politician by day, and the flying guy by night. Nice recovery on the $2M donation though - turning it around when being blackmailed and asking for $4M.

I had him pegged as the nemesis who ends up dropping the bomb in NY, like the politician on "Dead Zone" but I guess he could possibly end up being one of the good guys.The dates are too soon. He would have just been elected, and wouldn't have that sort of power as a virgin senator.

And Peter absorbing the power, and finishing the painting while NOT high... that's awesome. Maybe now the painter will realize that he can use his power without drugs. The drugs were probably meant as a plot device to get Peter to meet him.I guess time will tell if he can have multiple powerups in play at once. I am waiting to see if he has another gift as well ... I think we are scratching the surface on his character.

Overall, this is shaping up to be a great series. It really is like a rollercoaster - the first 2-3 episodes where being cranked up the top of the hill. The expectations were building, but nothing was really happening. Last week, we went over the top, and hit our first dip. This week we went through our first loop. I am really looking forward to the rest of the ride.

proglodyte

10-24-2006, 02:53 PM

Things about Claire's father that made me think he is not the villian were the fact that he let the cop go so easily after going to the trouble of capturing him. Sure he had the other guy "clean him out", but if he were truly evil why would he just let him go? Although, maybe they put some kind of evil post-hypnotic command in him. Who knows at this point?

Also the bit someone else mentioned before about him not shooting Nathan. Again, if he were evil what problem would he have with this? I think it's quite possible that he is abducting the heroes and helping them unlock their powers. Or perhaps he is looking for Cylus, knows Cylus has powers but not who he is, so he is having the black guy check the memories of everyone who has powers.

I wish I could go back and watch the previous episode where the dad is in Mohinder's cab. I can't remember what was said, but I don't recall anything overtly evil.

abacusand13south

10-24-2006, 03:14 PM

Nathan Petrelli - I got the feeling he is conflicted. He might end up being the corrupt politician by day, and the flying guy by night. Nice recovery on the $2M donation though - turning it around when being blackmailed and asking for $4M.

The dates are too soon. He would have just been elected, and wouldn't have that sort of power as a virgin senator.

What happens if he doesnt win the election though? Would losing the election push him over the edge? Maybe if he loses whoever the bad guys end up being ask him to join them.

tokenuser

10-24-2006, 03:39 PM

What happens if he doesnt win the election though? Would losing the election push him over the edge? Maybe if he loses whoever the bad guys end up being ask him to join them.He wins the election. It was shown in the scene when Hiro was a month in the future. I guess $4M really DOES guarantee a seat in Congress (or was that the Senate??).

diela

10-24-2006, 03:45 PM

What happens if he doesnt win the election though? Would losing the election push him over the edge? Maybe if he loses whoever the bad guys end up being ask him to join them.

I was thinking about that... now that the timeline has been interfered with, it's entirely possible he might lose. Maybe this is the kind of "rift" future-Hiro referred to when talking to Peter.

True enough about the Senator not having come into his political power just yet... he would still be Senator-elect at that point.

darksydeavenger

10-24-2006, 04:54 PM

Oh god...why can't this be a daily show? Why must we wait week to week for the sweet morsel that is Heroes. GRRRRRRRR....

bravestarr

10-24-2006, 05:52 PM

of course Claire’s dad is evil, just listen the music when he’s on screen.

and what was up with the dialogue between Hiro and Peter changing from last week to this week? is it some kind of time-rift consequence or just a simple goof?

why is the only Hispanic character a junkie?

this chapter was all about Hiro’s gleeful stare when Nathan walked into the diner and Peter & Isaac (or should i say e-sack) working in tandem.

tokenuser

10-24-2006, 06:09 PM

bravestarr

10-24-2006, 06:15 PM

Isaac is hispanic?? Strikes me as more New York Jewish than latino.

Isaac Mendez. he could still be jewish though, i guess.

abacusand13south

10-24-2006, 06:19 PM

Isaac is hispanic?? Strikes me as more New York Jewish than latino.

Its kind of hard to tell because have we actually gotten a good look at him? His last name is Mendez and if im not mistake that is a hispanic name (doesnt necassarily mean hes hispanic though) but I think he may be jewish as well.

4 minutes late, damn dial up.

bigyanks

10-24-2006, 06:27 PM

The one part had me laughing was with the cop and his after they have sex they stole that scene straight out of What Women want after mel gibson has sex with marisa tomei with both women saying " Oh my god it was like you were in my mind" or something like that. thought it was funny

tokenuser

10-24-2006, 06:39 PM

Isaac Mendez. he could still be jewish though, i guess.Ah ... I didn't pick up on his last name. I guess Isaac is still a Catholic name as well, it just one we normally associate with Jewish people.

satori

10-24-2006, 07:07 PM

Ah ... I didn't pick up on his last name. I guess Isaac is still a Catholic name as well, it just one we normally associate with Jewish people.

hey kids... if you're jewish your line is followed through the matrilineal line , where as names are passed through the patrileal line.... sooo, he could be both.

oh yeah... and that monkey guy is probably going to show up an play the "don't call people jewish" cop again.

tokenuser

10-24-2006, 07:18 PM

Jewish, Muslim, Catholic, Atheist, Agnostic, Mormon, Scientologist ... they are all just labels that describe someones prescribed religious (moral?) belief system in must the same way that Democrat, republican, Libertarian describe your political belief system.

Provided it doesn't get racist or personal, its not a violation of the internet better code of conduct manual.

slowmtnsilhouette

10-24-2006, 08:10 PM

i think isaac is some kind of hispanic. he does have a slight accent...

soundwave2-0

10-24-2006, 08:10 PM

hey kids... if you're jewish your line is followed through the matrilineal line , where as names are passed through the patrileal line.... sooo, he could be both.

oh yeah... and that monkey guy is probably going to show up an play the "don't call people jewish" cop again.

i wouldn't let my mom pick out jeans for me for a christmas present...let alone decide my religion.

darknessgp

10-24-2006, 08:54 PM

Anyone have any idea what the half RNA symbol is going to mean? I also wonder if the father is part of some good organization unlocking the powers of the heroes due to his side kick having the symbol on his neck and the fact that the symbol was on future hiros sword.

actually, it just resembles the RNA symbol.

Taken from wiki Heroes (TV Show)

"A frequently appearing symbol linked to the new heroes strongly resembles a stylized RNA molecule. This symbol has appeared numerous times and is frequently in some way related to a hero:

* In the swimming pool at a double homicide crime scene in which Matt Parkman was involved.
* As a recurring shape shown scrolling across a laptop screen in a genetic profiling program created by Chandra Suresh.
* On a drawing done by Peter Petrelli.
* Frequently painted by Isaac Mendez.
* On a post-it note on the map in Mohinder Suresh's apartment.
* Written on a geometry textbook owned by Claire Bennet.
* Written on pictures in Sylar's apartment.
* As a tattoo on the shoulder of Niki Sanders' alternate personality.
* Engraved on the hilt of Future Hiro's katana.
* Printed on the front of Chandra Suresh's book.
* Printed on the upper left corner of the 14th issue of '9th Wonders comic book, written by Isaac Mendez (The 13th issue that Micah was reading did not have the symbol).
* A necklace around Mr. Bennet's special assistant's neck."

A link to the picture of the symbol - http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5a/HeroesSymbol.jpg

satori

10-24-2006, 09:21 PM

i wouldn't let my mom pick out jeans for me for a christmas present...let alone decide my religion.

I think you're joking... you are joking right?

Jewish, Muslim, Catholic, Atheist, Agnostic, Mormon, Scientologist ... they are all just labels that describe someones prescribed religious (moral?) belief system in must the same way that Democrat, republican, Libertarian describe your political belief system.

Provided it doesn't get racist or personal, its not a violation of the internet better code of conduct manual.

ok, I know you're not joking... being jewish is not simply a religeon. While you can convert, the orthadox jews will not recognize you... it's not just a religeon, it's a race. It's the blood line that's carried through the mother, not the religion. The point here is that a person's name which is carried by the father could be O'Malley and you could still be jewish.

madripper1

10-24-2006, 10:31 PM

whats up with the painter? He doesn't have heroine so peter then becomes possessed and finishes the painting

tokenuser

10-24-2006, 10:38 PM

ok, I know you're not joking... being jewish is not simply a religeon. In the context in which I was referring to being Jewish, I was referring to the religious aspect. Like most religions, you can convert to being Jewish or marry into the faith, but that is fairly rare.

While I have a hard time calling Jews a seperate race, I know that they have a specific genetic makeup that traces back to the secular nature of the people that came from the Israel area 2000 years ago. Not being racist at all - its called the BRCA1 gene, and it an indicator of breast cancer in women.

I also have friends that refer to themselves as culturally Jewish (Jeff loves ham :) ) - meaning they recognise and embrace their heritage, but aren't practicing Jews.

slowmtnsilhouette

10-24-2006, 10:41 PM

whats up with the painter? He doesn't have heroine so peter then becomes possessed and finishes the painting

i thought that scene was really cool. isaac has a power that he can only tap into while he's high, but peters power is to use others' powers, so he can probably tap into it fairly easy.

who else thinks that nathan has used his powers before? judging by that sonic boom, i think he has..

bravestarr

10-24-2006, 10:51 PM

who else thinks that nathan has used his powers before? judging by that sonic boom, i think he has..

either that or he’s been watching Great American Hero reruns on Nick-at-Night. i mean come on, he was wearing pajamas, which is what the dude in GAH called his outfit. and that landing ...

tokenuser

10-24-2006, 10:58 PM

I still want to know when tey get their super hero names, and spandex costumes.

We got a peak at Hiro's superhero costume. I think someone has seen the Matrix too many times ...

slowmtnsilhouette

10-24-2006, 11:02 PM

I still want to know when tey get their super hero names, and spandex costumes.

We got a peak at Hiro's superhero costume. I think someone has seen the Matrix too many times ...

hiro is still my favorite character... and although i think that the samurai-esque costume seems a little tough for such a nice guy, it works...

diela

10-24-2006, 11:17 PM

We got a PEEK at Hiro's superhero costume. I think someone has seen the Matrix too many times ...

If anyone out of that bunch has seen the Matrix too many times, it would be Hiro, for sure.

Hope you don't mind the spelling correction there, bud. :D

If you were a betting person, how far into the future do you think future-Hiro came from? Season 4? Season 7?

tokenuser

10-24-2006, 11:23 PM

Hope you don't mind the spelling correction there, bud. :DNo worries.

If you were a betting person, how far into the future do you think future-Hiro came from? Season 4? Season 7?His English was good, and he had that "seasoned superhero" look. I am guessing 10 years in the future, but I think future Hiro will appear again before the end of the season. Definately waiting for Peter to get the scar.

The threads are coming together. This is going to be a killer DVD set to watch back to back.

bravestarr

10-24-2006, 11:30 PM

If you were a betting person, how far into the future do you think future-Hiro came from? Season 4? Season 7?

he's from a parallel future hoping to effect our timeline for the better.

guano

10-25-2006, 12:29 AM

he's from a parallel future hoping to effect our timeline for the better.

The point of his power is that he doesn't have to travel to a parallel universe in order to time travel. He has control over our own continuum.

bravestarr

10-25-2006, 12:32 AM

The point of his power is that he doesn't have to travel to a parallel universe in order to time travel. He has control over our own continuum.

yeah i know. it was a Cable/Bishop/Kitty Pryde joke (and a poor one i guess).

tokenuser

10-25-2006, 12:33 AM

The point of his power is that he doesn't have to travel to a parallel universe in order to time travel. He has control over our own continuum.I wonder if his power will be a Sam Becket thing ... only allowing him to travel within his own timeline? Like a piece of string of finite length, but scrunched up so that different points along the string can touch each other ...

muss

10-25-2006, 01:05 AM

darknessgp

10-25-2006, 01:11 AM

Anyone else check out this weeks graphic novel, it has me really confused by Nikki's husband. Is he bad or what? Maybe Claires father has him under some kind of mind control. Dunno but things are warming up.

You do know that Niki's Husband and the black guy with Claire's dad are not the same guys right? Nikki's husband has a phasing power, and the other black guy appears to have telepathic powers, advanced enough to erase memories.

On the side of future Hiro, I would really place him at a minimum of 3 years, max of 5. I say this because if it was 10 years than that's too long of a time for him and the others to realize what they need to change in the past. Also, Hiro tells Peter that it will change "everything"

slowmtnsilhouette

10-25-2006, 01:21 AM

bravestarr

10-25-2006, 01:24 AM

You do know that Niki's Husband and the black guy with Claire's dad are not the same guys right? Nikki's husband has a phasing power, and the other black guy appears to have telepathic powers, advanced enough to erase memories.

i think that was in reference to the fact that the "graphic novel" shows Niki's husband was actually framed for his crimes. there's a lot of stuff in those "graphic novels" (including Easter eggs) that doesn't make it to the show.

slowmtnsilhouette

10-25-2006, 01:25 AM

i think that was in reference to the fact that the "graphic novel" shows Niki's husband was actually framed for his crimes. there's a lot of stuff in those "graphic novels" (including Easter eggs) that doesn't make it to the show.

easter eggs? what easter eggs?

inthraller

10-25-2006, 01:30 AM

While I have a hard time calling Jews a seperate race, I know that they have a specific genetic makeup that traces back to the secular nature of the people that came from the Israel area 2000 years ago. .

Don't want to split hairs, but there is no difference between races on the genetic level. Most geneticist say that race is a social construct. If you were to take a group of people of varying race and compared their DNA, you most likely would find that people of different races would have very similar DNA. Just something to link about.

tokenuser

10-25-2006, 03:13 AM

Don't want to split hairs, but there is no difference between races on the genetic level. Most geneticist say that race is a social construct. If you were to take a group of people of varying race and compared their DNA, you most likely would find that people of different races would have very similar DNA. Just something to link about.I'll split hairs on this one. Check out the BRCA1 gene, and then tell me which race it is associated with. Here, let me do it for you ... link (http://www.genome.gov/10000507#q2). The genes are the same, it is the mutation of genes that is different in each racial group. There is a similar genetic issue with African American men and testicular cancer. Why African American men and not African men in general? Apparently something to do with the gene being beneficial when their forefathers were tranported as slaves for thier survival of the voyage, and now it is causing problems with an increased level of testicular cancer.

Nasty stuff - but it is my wife's research corpus (she is a Prof at a large, tier one, east coast university), so I have seen the data.

superdeformed

10-25-2006, 04:16 AM

It's getting better.

Nathan is edging closer to Hiro as my favorite character though.

jon

10-25-2006, 05:05 AM

I'll split hairs on this one. Check out the BRCA1 gene, and then tell me which race it is associated with. Here, let me do it for you ... link (http://www.genome.gov/10000507#q2). The genes are the same, it is the mutation of genes that is different in each racial group. There is a similar genetic issue with African American men and testicular cancer. Why African American men and not African men in general? Apparently something to do with the gene being beneficial when their forefathers were transported as slaves for their survival of the voyage, and now it is causing problems with an increased level of testicular cancer.

Is that research recent? If I haven't have heard of it I would have agreed with inthraller.

tokenuser

10-25-2006, 08:02 AM

Is that research recent? If I haven't have heard of it I would have agreed with inthraller.Fairly recent. Came out of the human genome project - the mapping of the human genetic map, so it is probably 4-5 years old. It was always suspected, but there was never proof. Women (and men - men can get breast cancer as well), with the mutated BRCA1 gene either ARE middle european Jews, or can trace their ancestry back there (whether they knew it or not).

kaine

10-25-2006, 08:31 AM

easter eggs? what easter eggs?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroes_%28TV_series%29 scroll down to Graphic novel. By secret they mean you click on the second page of the online graphic novel.

diela

10-25-2006, 12:37 PM

burntfire

10-25-2006, 02:27 PM

A new theory has been proposed on another board I go to, and it was interesting enough that I thought I'd share it here.

THIS IS SPECULATION. I hope no one minds talking speculation, especially since this seems kinda spoilery/accurate.

It's been proposed on the other board that the identity of Sylar is..... Peter Petrelli. From the future. He has somehow managed to figure out that if he consumes a portion of the person he borrows a power from, he can keep that power permanently... hence the brain eating. So he borrows Hiro's power to come back in time when everyone is still stumbling around in their newbie-ness, and don't know who he is. This is why future-Hiro risked coming back to the younger Peter Petrelli, not only hoping to save the world, but save Peter as well.

Plus, with Peter's family history of mental illness, maybe he DOES go mad later.

Thoughts... comments?

That is actually a really interesting concept. So far it makes sense. However, if he really did eat Hiro's brain it would have had to been after Hiro came back to warn him. So the future Hiro must has gone into the further future and seen Peter crazy, and decided to change things.

However, a thought just occured to me. If Syler is Peter, and young Peter was near Syler, would Peter have all the powers? Or would he get nothing because he's just leeching leeching?

I think this idea might have potential.

diela

10-25-2006, 02:54 PM

That is actually a really interesting concept. So far it makes sense. However, if he really did eat Hiro's brain it would have had to been after Hiro came back to warn him. So the future Hiro must has gone into the further future and seen Peter crazy, and decided to change things.

My thoughts were that Peter didn't manage to eat Hiro's brain, just borrow the power leech-style long enough to move back in time.

I know what you mean.... when I read about it, I immediately went "Aha!". It totally clicks for me.

tokenuser

10-25-2006, 02:57 PM

Thoughts... comments?Interesting theory and somewhat plausible if we speculate using the given information, but I don't buy it. It just doesn't sit right with me and the way Peter's character is developing. I think Peter will turn out to be the greatest of the Heroes heroes.

abacusand13south

10-25-2006, 03:27 PM

The Sylar=Future Peter is a pretty popular speculation with the IGN Comics crew and im still not sure what I think about it. Because while they are using time travel and there are no set rules of time travel so most shows just make up their own, having a future peter in the same time as current Peter should cause some sort of anamoly and start destroying the timestream if anyones read the first arc of Young Avengers then that is what im talking about.

I really like how shows like this go so far beyond just watching and to really thinking about what is going on or about to happen.

Does anyone else think Micah is uber powerful? He has a Franklin Richards vibe going and has a lot of potential.

bravestarr

10-25-2006, 03:54 PM

diela

10-25-2006, 04:18 PM

i made that prediction 6 pages back.

Depending on how you have your forum preferences set... I only had to go back one page.

I read your post at the time, but honestly, you said it in an off-hand way like a joke, and your punctuation/pronoun usage made it hard to understand exactly what you were saying.

Now that I get it, is there anything you want to add?

I personally like Peter's character, and would hate to see him turn into the evil guy myself, but so far it fits.

bravestarr

10-25-2006, 04:44 PM

Now that I get it, is there anything you want to add?

well I was saving this, but I took a screenshot of Sylar and adjusted the brightness to get a better look:

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r234/theeorizt/Heroes_Sylar.jpg

it does look like Peter, at least the actor. my thought was Isaac is the first victim, since Hiro walks in on him 4-5 weeks into the future dead, no brain, and a gun place exactly where Hiro would find it, pick it up and get framed. evil Peter knew Hiro would flash back to the present having absorbed Isaac’s powers, and the rest kind of plays out from there. at some point evil Peter goes into the past and meets up with the Professor’s dad to get more answers (as he planned to do), and from dad finds out where the remaining mutants are, etc, etc.

it’s just a theory though. probably turns out Sylar is just some other guy.

another thing i was throwing around was that the explosion isn’t a bomb but another mutant releasing it’s power to destroy New York, but i’ll keep that under wraps until i get more proof.

crap, I’m late for work.

soundwave2-0

10-25-2006, 04:55 PM

yeah i had the thought that the bomb was someone's power.

i have a feeling it is the lil boy, but not for sure. i kind of seeing him either having that power...or he built the bomb for some reason.

i have a feeling his powers are going to be like Forge's from the X-men. He is always tinkering around.

I am interested in seeing how the cheerleader is the key to saving the world.

soundwave2-0

10-25-2006, 04:56 PM

i also have a theory that peter will be hurt VERY badly, but he will have just been in contact with the cheerleader. i think he will heal from this most of the way, but his borrowed healing power will wear off before he can heal fully and leave him with the scar

slowmtnsilhouette

10-25-2006, 05:01 PM

A new theory has been proposed on another board I go to, and it was interesting enough that I thought I'd share it here.

THIS IS SPECULATION. I hope no one minds talking speculation, especially since this seems kinda spoilery/accurate.

It's been proposed on the other board that the identity of Sylar is..... Peter Petrelli. From the future. He has somehow managed to figure out that if he consumes a portion of the person he borrows a power from, he can keep that power permanently... hence the brain eating. So he borrows Hiro's power to come back in time when everyone is still stumbling around in their newbie-ness, and don't know who he is. This is why future-Hiro risked coming back to the younger Peter Petrelli, not only hoping to save the world, but save Peter as well.

Plus, with Peter's family history of mental illness, maybe he DOES go mad later.

Thoughts... comments?

this definitely makes sense to me, but i'd be very sad if this were the case. peter seems like such a good person with a good heart and i think it would be against his whole character to turn. then again, it would make for an awesome plot twist.
so, do the rest of you think the shadow figure in isaac's paintings is sylar? if so, why would sylar, if he actually is peter, come after himself?

funnelfish

10-25-2006, 05:08 PM

this definitely makes sense to me, but i'd be very sad if this were the case. peter seems like such a good person with a good heart and i think it would be against his whole character to turn. then again, it would make for an awesome plot twist.
so, do the rest of you think the shadow figure in isaac's paintings is sylar? if so, why would sylar, if he actually is peter, come after himself?

So Peter's power is absorbing other peoples powers right? What if he came into contact with Doppleganger Lady? She has an evil twin... what would stop Peter from getting an evil twin??? Oooo... me likey this idea.

slowmtnsilhouette

10-25-2006, 05:13 PM

So Peter's power is absorbing other peoples powers right? What if he came into contact with Doppleganger Lady? She has an evil twin... what would stop Peter from getting an evil twin??? Oooo... me likey this idea.

ooooh... that's an awesome theory! :: high fives funnelfish ::
only thing is, i dont think niki's alterego is evil. i think that she does what she needs to do to take care of niki and micah.... yeah, i know, i'm too nice sometimes...

jon

10-25-2006, 08:26 PM

i dont think niki's alterego is evil. i think that she does what she needs to do to take care of niki and micah.... yeah, i know, i'm too nice sometimes...

I concur. I just thought of her as a stronger, more confident version of herself.

kaine

10-25-2006, 10:24 PM

well I was saving this, but I took a screenshot of Sylar and adjusted the brightness to get a better look:

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r234/theeorizt/Heroes_Sylar.jpg

it does look like Peter, at least the actor. my thought was Isaac is the first victim, since Hiro walks in on him 4-5 weeks into the future dead, no brain, and a gun place exactly where Hiro would find it, pick it up and get framed. evil Peter knew Hiro would flash back to the present having absorbed Isaac’s powers, and the rest kind of plays out from there. at some point evil Peter goes into the past and meets up with the Professor’s dad to get more answers (as he planned to do), and from dad finds out where the remaining mutants are, etc, etc.

it’s just a theory though. probably turns out Sylar is just some other guy.

another thing i was throwing around was that the explosion isn’t a bomb but another mutant releasing it’s power to destroy New York, but i’ll keep that under wraps until i get more proof.

crap, I’m late for work.

Nope cant be. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000293/
IMDB list this guy as the character. Using photo shop I confirmed it by his eye shape, hooked nose, and ears.
http://img273.imageshack.us/img273/64/sdcc7.jpg

bravestarr

10-25-2006, 10:26 PM

Nope cant be. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000293/
IMDB list this guy as the character. Using photo shop I confirmed it by his eye shape and nose.

no fair, you cheated.

soundwave2-0

10-25-2006, 10:27 PM

Boromir!!!!!!!

kaine

10-25-2006, 10:28 PM

no fair, you cheated. lol not really. I though you might of been right until i looked at a picture of peter. His nose and face shape/eyes are nothing like the picture. Then I IMDBed. Yea Boromir is ebil.. oh noes the rings greed effect lives on.

bravestarr

10-25-2006, 10:31 PM

man, that's it i'm done watching this crap.

not really.

kaine

10-25-2006, 10:39 PM

I don't think the syler was the true first of these mutants. I mean if you think about the mr. Bennet's partner. He unlocked his powers early enough to be able to perform mind wipes without the help of the Mohinder's father, this is why i think Bennet is working for some organization (not evil not good) that has access to many of these mutants and some knowledge of mutants in the past and a way to detect them. This is why he was put in care of his adopted daughter. The organization might be around to either conceal their existence or reduce their collateral damage (or even help them[unlikely]).

diela

10-25-2006, 11:09 PM

Nope cant be. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000293/
IMDB list this guy as the character. Using photo shop I confirmed it by his eye shape, hooked nose, and ears.

Well crap.

Of course, I can't wait to post this on the other board, ha ha.

slowmtnsilhouette

10-25-2006, 11:11 PM

Well crap.

Of course, I can't wait to post this on the other board, ha ha.

hahaha. diela is a message board queen...

guano

10-26-2006, 03:17 AM

Damn you IMDB!! But yeah I knew it wasn't Peter. That just sounds too stupid to me.

proglodyte

10-26-2006, 03:34 AM

Oh yea, 'cause IMDB is always known to be accurate. Random people on the web never put up bullshit information in IMDB just to **** with people. :rolleyes:

But seriously, I can't believe anyone uses IMDB for information like this. Until I see his actual face on my screen I am not believing anything they say.

kaine

10-26-2006, 03:52 AM

Um the actors and the studio released the information. So It is accurate. Plus you can tell thats not peter. if you want more proof. Some one on SA posted an YouTube video of Mr. Bean that sounds similar to the sylar voice. http://youtube.com/watch?v=Lhp9kMJrpV0

superdeformed

10-26-2006, 04:34 AM

Boromir!!!!!!!

Damnit you beat me to it.

abacusand13south

10-26-2006, 03:39 PM

The guy in the show could obviously change and I think it was probably just a stuntman or something, and anyway if it was Peter from the future would it really need to be the same actor playing him?

muled

10-26-2006, 07:26 PM

http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,71984-0.html
Came across this on digg and thought someone else might find it kind of interesting. It talks about the guy who plays Hiro and how he use to work full time doing effects work for Industrial Light & Magic. Apparently he still does some work for them.

jon

10-26-2006, 11:39 PM

The guy in the show could obviously change and I think it was probably just a stuntman or something, and anyway if it was Peter from the future would it really need to be the same actor playing him?

That's true. We still don't know who he is within the show, so they can still have him be Peter from the future.

tokenuser

10-30-2006, 11:40 PM

Reminder for those that care ... :)

diela

10-30-2006, 11:42 PM

Reminder for those that care ... :)

Like those that care could forget!!

Not to mention my husband practically runs for the TV on mondays now. I haven't seen him this excited about TV since "Renegade" :p

tokenuser

10-30-2006, 11:44 PM

Like those that care could forget!!

Not to mention my husband practically runs for the TV on mondays now. I haven't seen him this excited about TV since "Renegade" :pMonday is a good night ... Prison Break, Heroes, CSI:Miami (provided they kill the new director/editor that thinks he is on MTV) ...

(It even gives me an hours break so I can make my wife some soup for while I am away ... I swear that without me, she would starve ;) ).

slowmtnsilhouette

10-30-2006, 11:47 PM

i was ridiculed by my family last night for my suddern outburst of excitement for tonights ep...

tokenuser

10-30-2006, 11:51 PM

i was ridiculed by my family last night for my suddern outburst of excitement for tonights ep...My wfe is "take it or leave it" with SciFi ... and is getting right into Heroes. Kinda makes me proud :D ... (she also like's Doctor Who - mainly because it was a show we both pretty much grew up with on TV in the 70's/80's).

=== SPOILER ===

Looks like Niki can talk to herself, and is getting in touch with her inner biatch ... and despite this episode being all about her, I loved Hiro's reaction when he found out he gets a sword :)

bigyanks

10-31-2006, 04:27 AM

Nooooooooooooooo tivo didnt record the last 2-5 mins last thing i saw was the girl going to issacs house. please tell me wha happen and next weeks episode or link to video?

bcool

10-31-2006, 04:29 AM

Nooooooooooooooo tivo didnt record the last 2-5 mins last thing i saw was the girl going to issacs house. please tell me wha happen and next weeks episode or link to video?

I hate that shit sooooo much. I've been torrenting lost for the missing 30 sec. every week. ****ing stupid dvr.

bigyanks

10-31-2006, 04:33 AM

i can set tivo do records an extra 5 min but i wish i dont have to do it to every episode.

tokenuser

10-31-2006, 04:43 AM

Nooooooooooooooo tivo didnt record the last 2-5 mins last thing i saw was the girl going to issacs house. please tell me wha happen and next weeks episode or link to video?Grab it off the NBC website tomorrow.

NBC actually get that there are people who will swap the video, so they are set up for it. Wish other networks would start to realise the 'nets not going away and embrace the technology.

bravestarr

10-31-2006, 06:05 AM

briangilmore

10-31-2006, 06:08 AM

secrets. strong enough for a man, ph balanced for a woman.

this was the best episode so far. very bad ass, especially the fight between Niki & DL (he’s got some moves).

who else thinks Claire Bear’s dad had her engineered?

and that two-timing whore, nice.

i think "that two-faced whore" might've been more fitting. This show really was getting crap out of the way at first wasn't it? Since the fourth episode, this stuff has been SOLID.

weebl

10-31-2006, 11:15 AM

I thought this episode lacked a WOOHOOO!!!-moment like when Nathan flew in the last episode...
All in all it was an ok episode but not the best.

psbp516

10-31-2006, 11:36 AM

I thought this episode lacked a WOOHOOO!!!-moment like when Nathan flew in the last episode...
All in all it was an ok episode but not the best.

I agree. It did seem like a filler episode, but a good filler episode. Nikkis husband was pretty cool. It would really suck to see one of them die, it will probably be the husband....

tokenuser

10-31-2006, 11:58 AM

I almost think that Niki's husband will turn out to be a good guy, and that Niki will be the villain ... and Micah will have a power that will out strip both of them.

kevmann16

10-31-2006, 12:38 PM

I thought this episode lacked a WOOHOOO!!!-moment like when Nathan flew in the last episode...
All in all it was an ok episode but not the best.

I thought the bit were DL had his hand in Nikki's chest was pretty awesome, every bit as good as Nathan flying.

Also I read a little back on this forum somebody missed the next weeks preview it online here http://www.heroes-forum.com/index.php?showtopic=1341 also the full epsiode can be downloaded in chunks on this site, so those that missed the last 30 seconds because of Tivo could pick it up on there. If the quailty of the preview is anything to go by though it won't be worth it, probably best to get it off the NBC site like someone else said

I always switch off before the preview, want to keep it all new for next monday.

diela

10-31-2006, 12:45 PM

psbp516

10-31-2006, 12:50 PM

Did I tell you people Mohinder's neighbor girl was actually one of the bad guys who was spying on him??? Ha!

Maybe I didn't tell you... too many forums to remember what I said where.

Let me put it this way... always be suspicious of a friendly neighbor in NYC.

Yep, you were right. The question is who is she working for?? Well Claire's dad..but who is he working for???

The one thing that annoyed me was in last weeks preview for this episode, it had the cop getting mad at someone and boiling up water (showing that he can do more than just read minds) but they didn't have it in this weeks episode. Hopefully they'll have it next week...

abacusand13south

10-31-2006, 03:34 PM

Did I tell you people Mohinder's neighbor girl was actually one of the bad guys who was spying on him??? Ha!

Maybe I didn't tell you... too many forums to remember what I said where.

Let me put it this way... always be suspicious of a friendly neighbor in NYC.

Ive also been saying that since she first appeared on the show. I would have really liked her to have actually been on Mohinders side though, so far shes a little bit to much like her character in brick.

abacusand13south

10-31-2006, 03:38 PM

The one thing that annoyed me was in last weeks preview for this episode, it had the cop getting mad at someone and boiling up water (showing that he can do more than just read minds) but they didn't have it in this weeks episode. Hopefully they'll have it next week...

The previews actually arnt for the next episode exclusively, they are for the upcoming episodes. For instance they have been showing Nathan and Isaac messing with the paintings since the first episode but we didnt actually see it in a show until the past two weeks.

proglodyte

10-31-2006, 05:14 PM

Yeah, my wife was saying that about Mohinder's neighbor since she first showed up. She was my least favorite character. In fact I think her acting is really bad, the worst in the show. But hopefully she will do something at least halfway interesting now.

bravestarr

10-31-2006, 05:16 PM

In fact I think her acting is really bad, the worst in the show.

i think the Keystone mind-reading cop is the worst. i get irritated every time he’s on. that’s what made this ep so good, he wasn’t in it.

dromeonyourchest

10-31-2006, 05:32 PM

Is the two face chick dead? And the way she died got me thinking. Is supermans innards, like his heart, hard as steal?

slowmtnsilhouette

10-31-2006, 07:40 PM

Is the two face chick dead? And the way she died got me thinking. Is supermans innards, like his heart, hard as steal?

it looked like she was, and with the narration about morals going out the window, it sure sounded like it. plus, in the preview, she wasnt in it. it was just DL and micah.

guano

10-31-2006, 09:37 PM

Man, the narrations at the beginning and end by Mohinder are just idiotic.

divadawg9234

10-31-2006, 09:40 PM

I hate it when shows go over time... my dvr stopped before it was over and now I have to go watch it on nbc.com

point5o

10-31-2006, 09:43 PM

Is the two face chick dead? And the way she died got me thinking. Is supermans innards, like his heart, hard as steal?

I don't think she is. Along with her super strength while she is "hulked out" , I think she has some form of healing factor. It probably doesn't work as fast as Claire's power, but it's there. She'll show up a couple of episodes down the line be pissed as hell at Shadowcat.

wallymartin

10-31-2006, 11:47 PM

Well I hope Niki isnt dead. If she can learn to control her alter-ego, she'll be the strongest character. Can't wait for next week.

divadawg9234

10-31-2006, 11:54 PM

Well I hope Niki isnt dead. If she can learn to control her alter-ego, she'll be the strongest character. Can't wait for next week.
hmm sounds familiar... that's ok, this show is totally predictable but I still love it :)

briangilmore

11-01-2006, 06:16 AM

... and Micah will have a power that will out strip both of them.

Nikki is so unbelievably hot, ever since that scene in Varsity Blues, oh man. so hot (no, not the "I don't want. Your life.", the whipped cream bikini).
Unless you're PRETTY sick, I don't think a little black kid can ever outstrip her. No matter how good a dancer.

I'd agree with you on the dad though.

:cool:

big-doze

11-01-2006, 11:31 AM

Save the cheerleader, save the world, *****es!

I just keep loving this show more and more! I'm glad that Mohinder's neighbor turned out to be evil, 'cause otherwise she was just a pain in the ass.

MVP of this episode has to go to the evil Mr. Bennet. Cooking up some fake parents to Claire, planting a mole to spy on Mohinder, and then siccing her on Isaac? This is a Hans Gruber level villainy, here, even taking the time to throw a few laughs at us ("There may have been an encounter with somebody who can stop time." "Really...? That's cool.").

Can't wait til the climactic battle between all the specials (given time to master their powers by Hiro, of course) and the team of Mr. Bennet, Voodoo Man and Evil Niki in the heart of New York as the countdown ticks away on the bomb (with wildcard Sylar there to mix things up, of course).

At least, that's how I think it'll go down...

klitzy

11-01-2006, 12:09 PM

Nikki is so unbelievably hot, ever since that scene in Varsity Blues, oh man. so hot (no, not the "I don't want. Your life.", the whipped cream bikini).
Unless you're PRETTY sick, I don't think a little black kid can ever outstrip her. No matter how good a dancer.

I'd agree with you on the dad though.

:cool:

Very true....Also the cheerleader, eh. Makes me drool all over myself.

*Drop*

*Drop*

*Klitzy runs to the sink to get a paper towel*

funnelfish

11-01-2006, 02:04 PM

Can someone please tell me how it ends? My Tivo stopped right as neighbor chick knocked on Isaac's door... ending please!

proglodyte

11-01-2006, 02:46 PM

Can someone please tell me how it ends? My Tivo stopped right as neighbor chick knocked on Isaac's door... ending please!

The neighbor chick just basically told Isaac that she was an admirer of his work and that was it with them. Then there was a last scene showing Nikki laying on the floor either dead or alive with a voiceover by Mohinder about something like chosing sides and making decisions to be good or evil.

dromeonyourchest

11-01-2006, 05:47 PM

I've always wondered why the Future Hiro just doesn't go back in time and slice the main villian in half with his sword or kill the Villains mother so she can't conceive her.

slowmtnsilhouette

11-01-2006, 06:04 PM

I've always wondered why the Future Hiro just doesn't go back in time and slice the main villian in half with his sword or kill the Villains mother so she can't conceive her.

well, when he went to peter he said going back that far was already very close to causing a rift...

proglodyte

11-01-2006, 06:18 PM

ll I've always wondered why the Future Hiro just doesn't go back in time and slice the main villian in half with his sword or kill the Villains mother so she can't conceive her.

It'll probably be explained as something about not wanting to upset the time stream too much.

bravestarr

11-01-2006, 06:21 PM

I've always wondered why the Future Hiro just doesn't go back in time and slice the main villian in half with his sword or kill the Villains mother so she can't conceive her.

cuz it’s not his style. Hiro’s an oldskool, pre-Punisher, heroes never kill people even their mortal enemy kind of cat.

bigyanks

11-06-2006, 09:50 PM

Heroes tonight. Someone knows there secrets but who. dum dum dummmmm. im guessing they kidnap isaac offer him some blow and make him reveal all the heroes.

blacksymbiote

11-07-2006, 05:01 AM

satori

11-07-2006, 05:15 AM

I love this show. Thank god for comics and superheroes! Superhero stuff is just starting to flood the market, and I love it! All these movies coming (just look at next year's line up) and now more and more hero shows on tv. Life is good.:D

It's true it's good... but like a big dark cloud on a sunny day I'm here to rain on your parade. The big comic boom of the mid 90s was amazing. It was so sad when I found when it was over and all these great comic book stores died. All these really good titles died out. I just think with a market saturation we could see a backlash of people sick of comics made into film.

proglodyte

11-07-2006, 05:18 AM

blacksymbiote

11-07-2006, 06:30 AM

It's true it's good... but like a big dark cloud on a sunny day I'm here to rain on your parade. The big comic boom of the mid 90s was amazing. It was so sad when I found when it was over and all these great comic book stores died. All these really good titles died out. I just think with a market saturation we could see a backlash of people sick of comics made into film.

Yeah, you're right, nothing lasts forever. That rainy day will be tears from heaven, but I know I'll enjoy it while it lasts. And when that's all said and done, it's Back to Comics!

guano

11-07-2006, 06:42 AM

Great episode. Didn't someone here predict that the explosion was caused by a mutant? Good call on that one. Micah is awesome.

So Peter and that guy he was caring for had some sort of psychic connection. Perhaps something's up with his girlfriend too.

tokenuser

11-07-2006, 10:33 AM

What?? No love for Hiro yet??

Finally Mind Reading Cop gets some decent screen time that actually helps the plot line.

I think we are only at the beginning of seeing what Micah can do :)

psbp516

11-07-2006, 12:33 PM

Fantastic episode tonight! And I know I never mentioned anything about him here, but it turned out I was so right about Mikah. And according to the preview for next week I may have been right about the cheerleaders dad.

Looks like we may have found a culprit for the New York explosion in that nuclear guy too.

Peter takes all the peoples powers and explodes (from the radiation guy) that's why he needs the cheerleader to contain himself (healing powers). That's just my theory though..

psbp516

11-07-2006, 12:42 PM

What?? No love for Hiro yet??

Finally Mind Reading Cop gets some decent screen time that actually helps the plot line.

I think we are only at the beginning of seeing what Micah can do :)

Does anyone else think the cop has telekinetic powers? In previews for future episodes it shows him getting mad and water boiling up. And remember when sylar was trying to steal the girl (possibly future Peter) and was throwing crap at him with telekinesis. Eh? See where I'm going here?

oh and I think that symbol that is on everyone is the measure of the power they have realized. Niki's was fully developed when she turned bad last episode. The cops was only partly developed because (as mentioned above) he hasn't fully realized is powers.

And I knew since day one that Micah had brainiac/forge powers. I really like that they are finally showing what everyone can actually do. But I don't want the show to get flooded with heroes. (it looks like well get atleast 2:waitress, more of the radiation guy, next episode.) Maybe we can have a couple more, but too many gets too complicated and confusing.

diela

11-07-2006, 12:46 PM

Finally Mind Reading Cop gets some decent screen time that actually helps the plot line.

Yeah, but WTF happened after he freaked everyone out in the convenience store???? I figured at the very least, FBI lady would have to bail him out of jail, or his partner would have to "rescue" him, or something. They dropped that incident and we never hear about it again, or are they planning some kind of "LOST"-esque flashback later? Good on him for decking his partner.

I knew Micah was a technocrat (to borrow a phrase from "Sky High") the minute I saw the "out of order" sign on the payphone... kid's not that stupid, heh. That's a geek talent if ever there was one... good thing he seems to be leaning towards good, not evil, or he'll be robbing ATMs when he's older.

I would have pounded Claire's punk brother into paste for being a snoop.

tokenuser

11-07-2006, 12:58 PM

I would have pounded Claire's punk brother into paste for being a snoop.Yeah - so much for the whole "Claires power is revealed" hype. It was revealed to her little brother - not the world :|

We have to get to a climax soon. NBC originally ordered a half season of Heroes, so we would be nearing that point now. The writers probably had a decent plot that could be wrapped at a half season point to give some closure.

I really liked Nathan's monlogue about being able to fly, but not being able to do anything else with it - he can't fight, doesn't have a gun ... whats he going to do ... fly around saving cats from trees :)

I guess the dilemma of being a superhero goes beyond picking the colour of the spandex in your suit. Perhaps they can talk to E.

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/5/5c/180px-Edna_Mode.jpg

madripper1

11-07-2006, 07:25 PM

I like how hiro when he stops time still gets amazed at the little things. he looked like a kid with a new toy when he saw the tire in mid flight. he makes the show.

tokenuser

11-07-2006, 08:17 PM

I like how hiro when he stops time still gets amazed at the little things. he looked like a kid with a new toy when he saw the tire in mid flight. he makes the show.I almost wondered if he pushed them away from the explosion, or teleported them.

Hiro is awesome, but noone will ever take him seriously as a hero if he keeps doing the dance he does after he stops time and uses his powers.

bravestarr

11-07-2006, 09:57 PM

I almost wondered if he pushed them away from the explosion, or teleported them.

Hiro is awesome, but noone will ever take him seriously as a hero if he keeps doing the dance he does after he stops time and uses his powers.

he pushed them, that’s why he was huffin and puffin afterwards (he even made a comment about not having super strength). given his stoic future ninja self i’m guessing he eventually gets over his child like wonderment.

what got me about this ep was Micah. from my understanding, when two mutants mate their offspring is supposed to exhibit the combined traits of the parents. that’s kind of the whole point behind evolution. don’t get me wrong, his technokinesis is cool, but shouldn’t he be a half phaser half hulking hybrid?

and what’s with the tattoo/birthmark thing? are the “branded” ones part of some Weapon X type deal?

best part was Jessica/Niki gearin up Frank Castle style at the end.

divadawg9234

11-07-2006, 10:04 PM

best part was Jessica/Niki gearin up Frank Castle style at the end.
I totally agree... I am totally into men, but if I weren't I'd be all about that girl... she's hot and bad@ss!

jon

11-07-2006, 10:58 PM

what got me about this ep was Micah. from my understanding, when two mutants mate their offspring is supposed to exhibit the combined traits of the parents. that’s kind of the whole point behind evolution. don’t get me wrong, his telekinesis is cool, but shouldn’t he be a half phaser half hulking hybrid?

Was it telekinesis? I just thought it was some sort of electronics type power since he was such a genius with them during the first couple of episodes.

bravestarr

11-07-2006, 10:59 PM

Was it telekinesis? I just thought it was some sort of electronics type power since he was such a genius with them during the first couple of episodes.

technokinesis. how'd you quote me wrong? hmmmm. i must have it.

madripper1

11-07-2006, 11:02 PM

if my name wasn't also nikki and my last name close to sanders I'd be all over her she is hot and a bad ass

divadawg9234

11-07-2006, 11:49 PM

do any of you think that, Niki's other personality being named, Jessica is a shout out to Sweet Valley High fans everywhere?

slowmtnsilhouette

11-07-2006, 11:51 PM

do any of you think that, Niki's other personality being named, Jessica is a shout out to Sweet Valley High fans everywhere?

hahahahahaha... oh man... i thought i was the only one that thought of that....

divadawg9234

11-07-2006, 11:55 PM

hahahahahaha... oh man... i thought i was the only one that thought of that....
tee hee... though I will miss being able to call her Ikin...

soundwave2-0

11-08-2006, 12:16 AM

the cheerleader is so much hotter.

bravestarr

11-08-2006, 12:32 AM

your all wrong. nathan's paraplegic wife is the hotness.

no jokes.

soundwave2-0

11-08-2006, 12:34 AM

pish posh....did u see how bad coupling was?

jawapunkin

11-08-2006, 12:39 AM

Ithink the nikki and jessica names are making fun of nick lache and jessica simpson Timing on the script writing would have not been that far off.

soundwave2-0

11-08-2006, 12:40 AM

Ithink the nikki and jessica names are making fun of nick lache and jessica simpson Timing on the script writing would have not been that far off.

interesting theory.

guano

11-08-2006, 01:00 AM

what got me about this ep was Micah. from my understanding, when two mutants mate their offspring is supposed to exhibit the combined traits of the parents. that’s kind of the whole point behind evolution. don’t get me wrong, his technokinesis is cool, but shouldn’t he be a half phaser half hulking hybrid?

Since when is that the case with mutant kids? Is that from X-Men? This isn't X-Men.

And no, that's not the point behind evolution. The offspring of 2 parents is not a perfect blend of characteristics. It's waaaaaaay more complicated. I'm sure even more so than real genetics with this "hero gene."

bravestarr

11-08-2006, 01:05 AM

Since when is that the case with mutant kids? Is that from X-Men? This isn't X-Men.

And no, that's not the point behind evolution. The offspring of 2 parents is not a perfect blend of characteristics. It's waaaaaaay more complicated. I'm sure even more so than real genetics with this "hero gene."

chillax holmes.

i didn't say perfect. i said the offspring exhibits traits from the combition of the 2 (which is why Micah is mocha). he has no resemblance powers-wise.

guano

11-08-2006, 01:16 AM

chillax holmes.

i didn't say perfect. i said the offspring exhibits traits from the combition of the 2 (which is why Micah is mocha). he has no resemblance powers-wise.

How do we know their special genes work that way? I haven't taken any genetics classes but I'm sure there are plenty of examples in human genetics in which a characteristic of the parents does not express itself in the offspring.

bravestarr

11-08-2006, 01:23 AM

How do we know their special genes work that way? I haven't taken any genetics classes but I'm sure there are plenty of examples in human genetics in which a characteristic of the parents does not express itself in the offspring.

i've taken a few. to break it down, it’s called Mendel’s Laws. the x-gene (for lack of a better word) could only be on or off if only 1 parent is a carrier. if both parents are carriers than then it could meld 50/50, or exhibit one more dominantly, or both could be dormant (off).

come to think of it, there is the remote chance that Micah spontaneously mutated his own genes from scratch like his rent’s did (unless of course, they were engineered). so in that case his ability’s could be explained.

i'm thinkin way too much about this damn show.

tokenuser

11-08-2006, 01:38 AM

I totally agree... I am totally into men, but if I weren't I'd be all about that girl... she's hot and bad@ss!I don't know what the do to her, but sultry Jessica is hotter than dough eyed Nikki.
I guess I have always had a thing for the bad girls.

psbp516

11-08-2006, 01:48 AM

i've taken a few. to break it down, it’s called Mendel’s Laws. the x-gene (for lack of a better word) could only be on or off if only 1 parent is a carrier. if both parents are carriers than then it could meld 50/50, or exhibit one more dominantly, or both could be dormant (off).

come to think of it, there is the remote chance that Micah spontaneously mutated his own genes from scratch like his rent’s did (unless of course, they were engineered). so in that case his ability’s could be explained.

i'm thinkin way too much about this damn show.

No, they all had the mutant gene from birth but their powers weren't fully activated until the eclipse.

*edit*
I just remembered that claire and hiro had their powers before-hand. That brings the question, what is the significance of the eclipse? But anyway, yeah your thinking too much of it. I don't its very probable that random people would start to be able to fly, read-minds, emit radioactive energy, exhibit super strength, etc. anyway...

bravestarr

11-08-2006, 01:52 AM

No, they all had the mutant gene from birth but their powers weren't fully activated until the eclipse.

activation time still doesn't change how they got the mutant gene at conception. just like the genes that tell your pubes to grow.

unless you implying that there was some global phenomena at the time of the eclipse that caused the genetic make-up of certain people to randomly change giving them extraordinary powers. that’s just absurd.

blacksymbiote

11-08-2006, 01:59 AM

I almost wondered if he pushed them away from the explosion, or teleported them.

Isn't his time stopping ability kinda related to his teleporting powers? For instance he could pause time, walk across the street, and unpause, but to other people it would look like he just teleported across the street. But obviously when he teleported to New York and into the future, that's something a little bit different. :P

and what’s with the tattoo/birthmark thing? are the “branded” ones part of some Weapon X type deal?

If you look carefully (unless it's a mistake in the making of the show) Jessica has the tattoo, but Niki doesn't. ;) Plus, that sign shows up in way more places, like on Claire's text book in her school locker, or made up of water pool toys in the pool of the murdered family in the second episode. The house where the cop first gets his powers. A friend of mine also thought the branch in the lizard's tank was that same shape, but I didn't see that one.

tokenuser

11-08-2006, 02:16 AM

If you look carefully (unless it's a mistake in the making of the show) Jessica has the tattoo, but Niki doesn't. ;) Plus, that sign shows up in way more places, like on Claire's text book in her school locker, or made up of water pool toys in the pool of the murdered family in the second episode. The house where the cop first gets his powers. A friend of mine also thought the branch in the lizard's tank was that same shape, but I didn't see that one.

With respect to the branding - I just rewatched last nights episode with my wife. Anyone else pick up on the fact that the cop and the nuclear guy both had similar brandings on their shoulders? Two parallel bars about 3/4" long.

Are these important?? I doubt they wouldn't have been shown if they weren't going to impact things somehow, but the question is are the "brands" or "scars" from surgery??

jon

11-08-2006, 02:45 AM

technokinesis. how'd you quote me wrong? hmmmm. i must have it.

I misunderstood what you said before. See it now. Sorry about that.

With respect to the branding - I just rewatched last nights episode with my wife. Anyone else pick up on the fact that the cop and the nuclear guy both had similar brandings on their shoulders? Two parallel bars about 3/4" long.

My best guess is that whoever is hunting them (pretty safe to say that it's Claire's dad) is branding them. I wouldn't be surprised if he is also tracking them somehow.

coldhammer

11-08-2006, 03:18 AM

With respect to the branding - I just rewatched last nights episode with my wife. Anyone else pick up on the fact that the cop and the nuclear guy both had similar brandings on their shoulders? Two parallel bars about 3/4" long.

Are these important?? I doubt they wouldn't have been shown if they weren't going to impact things somehow, but the question is are the "brands" or "scars" from surgery??

"brands" or "scars" = Power Level
Sylar = S.Y.L.A.R.

psbp516

11-08-2006, 03:33 AM

"brands" or "scars" = Power Level

Exactly....

muss

11-08-2006, 04:38 AM

We are seeing that symbol in a lot of places so I definitely feel it has some huge significance in the story line. My theory however is that it somehow knows which side you are on. The only people we have seen with the physical markings on their bodies are Jessica, Matt, and Pyro. Matt will definitely be one of the Heroes(unless he goes psycho now that he knows his best friend was cheating with his wife), Pyro he has done some bad things but his character does not seem like a bad guy, and he could be useful in the future fighting evil. Jessica has the other brand and she is about as evil as they come. It would not surprise me at all to see her join up with S.Y.L.A.R. and the bad guys leaving Micah torn between his parents one fighting for good the other evil. OOH and just in case we are keeping score I also called Micah's powers much earlier as well.

Double brand = Hero
Single Brand = Villain

diela

11-08-2006, 04:44 AM

If they were anything, they were all tattoos... it's either the number 11 or a pair of parallel lines. Brands will look like scar tissue... even colored brands are not that smooth.

Ever cooked bacon and seen it shrink and pucker in the pan? Human skin will do that when heat is applied, too.

And before y'all think I'm some kinda freaky deaky woman, don't forget I once worked in hospitals... :p

blacksymbiote

11-08-2006, 05:13 AM

Wait, the full brand or tattoo is an S shape, and at one end, there is a single bar sticking out of it, and on the other end there is two bars... the radiation guy and the cop may just have incomplete markings and only have that small section of the full S shape... like the power level theory, as they develop or gain control of their powers, the brand develops as well. I really don't think it's given to them by people "hunting" them. The bad guys are probably just obsessed with it because it's related to the powers.

psbp516

11-14-2006, 03:19 AM

djhyjak

11-14-2006, 03:30 AM

They got me this week. I didnt think they were gonna kill the waitress, i expected Hiro to stop time and save her.

psbp516

11-14-2006, 03:34 AM

They got me this week. I didnt think they were gonna kill the waitress, i expected Hiro to stop time and save her.

That was one of the best moments of the show. It was so freaking good when blood started dripping down her forehead. I love this show.

tokenuser

11-14-2006, 03:55 AM

bump, bump, bump

I really don't know what's going to happen next episode. I don't think that peter is sylar anymore. I want to know what happens to hiro. Hell I want to know what happens to everyone. ONE WEEK AWAY!!! it better be good.....Notice the photo of Hiro on the notice board in the Burnt Toast Cafe in the closing shot? I guess he went back in time .... question is ... how far?

paulsaves

11-14-2006, 04:06 AM

Notice the photo of Hiro on the notice board in the Burnt Toast Cafe in the closing shot? I guess he went back in time .... question is ... how far?

It was a week or more. The waitress told him her birthday was a few weeks ago or a week ago, something like that.

tokenuser

11-14-2006, 04:11 AM

It was a week or more. The waitress told him her birthday was a few weeks ago or a week ago, something like that.But what year? Future Hiro had pretty good English ... what if it wasn't learnt in the future, but learnt in the past??

Too much happened in this episode. Wonder how many more episodes until the "fall break".

paulsaves

11-14-2006, 04:14 AM

But what year? Future Hiro had pretty good English ... what if it wasn't learnt in the future, but learnt in the past??

Too much happened in this episode. Wonder how many more episodes until the "fall break".

Shit, I never thought of it that way. Yeah, a lot did happen in this episode. It's a goddamn mind f*ck.

darksydeavenger

11-14-2006, 05:03 AM

anyone know if they've put up the latest episode yet? Can't seem to find it through my usual channels...

bravestarr

11-14-2006, 06:09 AM

satori

11-14-2006, 07:11 AM

man, Sylar straight cockblocked Hiro. now i really hate him.

pretty sure now Nitro/Radioactive Man is the "bomb". they even named him Ted (as in Kaczynski).

so i take those scars are micochip tracking devices?

im diggin Mohinder's Freddy Kruger sister too, pretty interesting. can't wait for them to all team up properly.

I think the have fail safe devices on them just in case they get out of control... I think that's what starts the nuclear reaction. Also it's Hiro's own fault for going to the can instead of going into the kitchen and giving that girl some sausage.

kramertron

11-14-2006, 07:13 AM

im diggin Mohinder's Freddy Kruger sister too, pretty interesting. can't wait for them to all team up properly.

Anyone else think that Mohinder's sister was a boy at first? Hell, I thought it was young Mohinder. And I was wondering what the hell took so long for Hiro to get the idea that time travel might be able to work in two directions.

elker

11-14-2006, 03:02 PM

It was a week or more. The waitress told him her birthday was a few weeks ago or a week ago, something like that.

She said received the Japanese phrase book for her birthday 6 months ago, she only started reading it last week. Until I saw the photo of Hiro at her birthday, I thought they were going to send Hiro waaaay back in time. That would have explained where he got the samurai swords.

jonathanlondon

11-14-2006, 03:29 PM

darksydeavenger

11-14-2006, 03:33 PM

Man, I definitely didn't want the waitress to kick it. She was WAY more interesting than Ali Larter's character.

abacusand13south

11-14-2006, 03:35 PM

Good episode but it feels like they are stretching themselves a little thin with going episodes without showing characters but I guess thats OK now since lost. So Hiro went back 6 months to the girls Birthday party but did he give her the phrasebook and what made her start reading it a week before they showed up. So much happened this week that im still trying to wrap my head around it.

jonathanlondon

11-14-2006, 03:37 PM

funnelfish

11-14-2006, 05:32 PM

This episode rocked. And you know what helped? No more time spent on the Ali Larter storyline! That thing has been clogging the show. I like it but not for half the episode.

And that new actress with the memory powers is amazing. I was all over her. And then that bad stuff happened and I didn't like it at all. But of course, there goes our hero to save the day. And we got a lot of info on Horn Rimmed Glasses and Mohinder and our L.A. Felicity Cop. I'm so pumped for next week! Feel these biceps! FEEL 'EM! I'm pumped!! WHoooooooo!!!!

I am right there with you brosif! I hate the Nikki story! My roomate and I had a Shakespeare in Love moment in the episode, when the waitress was talking to Hiro at the counter. We both looked at each other and went... Sexy! I cannot wait to see Sean Bean's face next week. I have a sinking feeling that next week is the mid-season finale... which is totally unfair. This show is really starting to roll.

abacusand13south

11-14-2006, 06:07 PM

I am right there with you brosif! I hate the Nikki story! My roomate and I had a Shakespeare in Love moment in the episode, when the waitress was talking to Hiro at the counter. We both looked at each other and went... Sexy! I cannot wait to see Sean Bean's face next week. I have a sinking feeling that next week is the mid-season finale... which is totally unfair. This show is really starting to roll.

Damn you for saying that Sean Bean shit, I had no idea what you were talking about so I check his imdb to see who hes playing and you suck man.

point5o

11-14-2006, 06:27 PM

I am right there with you brosif! I hate the Nikki story! My roomate and I had a Shakespeare in Love moment in the episode, when the waitress was talking to Hiro at the counter. We both looked at each other and went... Sexy! I cannot wait to see Sean Bean's face next week. I have a sinking feeling that next week is the mid-season finale... which is totally unfair. This show is really starting to roll.

Thanks for deflating the tension for the big reveal, cock...beer?

funnelfish

11-14-2006, 06:39 PM

Damn you for saying that Sean Bean shit, I had no idea what you were talking about so I check his imdb to see who hes playing and you suck man.

Sorry... I thought people in this thread already knew... didn't someone reveal it earlier??

bigyanks

11-14-2006, 06:40 PM

Sorry... I thought people in this thread already knew... didn't someone reveal it earlier??

yeah they did.

darksydeavenger

11-14-2006, 06:51 PM

yeah they did.

Wow....Sean Bean as Sylar....very interesting indeed!

satori

11-14-2006, 08:03 PM

Sean Bean's best stuff was all the Sharpe shows that were on in the early 80s.... Also I like his work in Ronin. I always thought he would of made a great James Bond and then they went and made him a villain in Golden Eye.

blacksymbiote

11-15-2006, 04:17 AM

I just saw the episode, a friend brought a recorded copy over and I finally got to watch it. Luckily I avoided this forum until I saw it or it would have spoiled how amazing this episode was. I loved the waitress so much it was so horrible to watch her die. I'm also curious as to what Hiro's reasons were for not coming back to the Diner like he said he would. What happened to him to change his mind and abandon his friend? Or could he just not get back? What about that whole rift thing that was mentioned in the show before? Oh god I need it to be next week right now!

darknessgp

11-15-2006, 05:15 AM

Wow....Sean Bean as Sylar....very interesting indeed!

It should be noted that when that was originally brought up, someone also said it was a rumor as the imdb is the only place to list him and imdb has been known to be a sucker for taking rumors seriously before.

wallymartin

11-16-2006, 02:17 AM

I liked the episode too and seems that Peter is going to finally going to save the cheerleader next week. Can't wait for it.

slowmtnsilhouette

11-16-2006, 02:37 AM

i really liked this weeks ep and im dying for next week... this show is too addicting to me...

paulsaves

11-16-2006, 03:40 PM

i really liked this weeks ep and im dying for next week... this show is too addicting to me...

Yeah, next week better be bad ass. I can't wait for it.

And I'm wondering about Hiro's situation and if he's any different when he gets back.

diela

11-17-2006, 11:28 PM

Spoiler interview with Greg Grunberg (mind-reading cop) with Ausiello.

http://www.tvguide.com/detail/celebrity.aspx?tvobjectid=189999

Follow the link and it's the YouTube looking image with the big play button in the upper right corner.

diela

11-18-2006, 04:40 PM

Heroes recruits Cpt. Sulu to play Hiro's father....

http://www.eonline.com/news/article/index.jsp?uuid=fed133ee-2545-4600-8073-0a626192faf0

guybers

11-18-2006, 08:32 PM

Now don't get me wrong, I love the show...but is anyone else getting turned off by the acting? With a few exceptions (Hiro and the sleezier Petrelli), the acting seems to have taken a turn for the worse, which is counter-intuitive to how new actors typically develop. I love the path the story has taken, but I think they need new directors to drive the actors into giving better performances. They should hire the directors of HBO's 'The Wire', that would help get some more realistic performances....ehhh???

bigyanks

11-18-2006, 08:46 PM

Heroes recruits Cpt. Sulu to play Hiro's father....

http://www.eonline.com/news/article/index.jsp?uuid=fed133ee-2545-4600-8073-0a626192faf0

SULU hes so f*cking funny when i here him on howard stern!!

madripper1

11-20-2006, 05:56 PM

Christopher Eccleston from doctor who will be Sylar in heroes.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/17112006/364/eccleston-lands-role-heroes.html

diela

11-20-2006, 06:07 PM

Christopher Eccleston from doctor who will be Sylar in heroes.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/17112006/364/eccleston-lands-role-heroes.html

The article says it's *rumored* so it's not definite yet.

He played an excellent baddie in "Gone in 60 Seconds" and I certainly wouldn't mind seeing him on my screen regularily again.

slowmtnsilhouette

11-20-2006, 06:53 PM

im sooooooo excited its on tonight!!!!

:: runs off yelling ::

eaasness

11-20-2006, 07:04 PM

I was watching Scrubs on Comedy Central the other day and who do I see? Masi Oka aka Hiro. He played the bit part of a lab tech named Franklyn.

I had to rewind it and literally yelled for my roommate to come and watch it.

slowmtnsilhouette

11-20-2006, 07:07 PM

tokenuser

11-20-2006, 07:11 PM

my mom looked him up on imdb.... apparently, he's in A LOT of things... .... and don't forget that he is still one of the talents at ILM, creating digital special effects (apparently his thing is "water").

eaasness

11-20-2006, 07:50 PM

I can't wait for tonights episode. I have a feeling Hiro and the waitress are gonna hookup if you know what I mean. ;)

diela

11-21-2006, 12:30 AM

Well at least we now know where Hiro learned his english.

What bothers me about the storyline though is... the surroundings around Hiro's friend should have changed *more* as a result of Hiro's trip through time... I mean, if she had survived as a result, then the cops should all be gone now right? Not just one polaroid on the wall changing.

Unless the effects of his travel change slowly, and not instantaneously like in "Frequency"

slowmtnsilhouette

11-21-2006, 12:40 AM

Unless the effects of his travel change slowly, and not instantaneously like in "Frequency"

or like in the butterfly effect when he has to relearn his memory... that was crazy... gives me a headache just thinking about it....

blacksymbiote

11-21-2006, 01:47 AM

What if when he changes time, it creates an alternate timeline... and these are the rifts he mentioned before... so as far as his friend knows, or will ever know, Hiro disappeared forever and for good, because now he is in an alternate future that he created when he altered the events of the past?? I hope that's the case... it'll make my brain melt, and that warm squishy feeling is so nice.

bravestarr

11-21-2006, 05:17 AM

hahahaha

the geeks united and voted for Claire!

(50 mins later)

ahhhhhhhhh

i'm freakin goin nutz watchin this. it's freakin bananaz!!

slowmtnsilhouette

11-21-2006, 08:07 AM

tonights ep was crazy! i totally knew that peter was going to survive that way... man im good!

i really wish they covered more of hiro's story though... and im really getting tired of this jessica/nikki bit.... its gotten to the point where i wish it was just micah and his dad.

tokenuser

11-21-2006, 12:31 PM

What bothers me about the storyline though is... the surroundings around Hiro's friend should have changed *more* as a result of Hiro's trip through time... I mean, if she had survived as a result, then the cops should all be gone now right? Not just one polaroid on the wall changing.
Last week, the cops said to wait at the table - they will want to question them more ... and given the timeline, it is later that day ... and there are NO cops, and the other woman refers to Hiro as being tight with the waitress. Perhaps Hiro knows more about time trael than we think and he is lying low so as no to affect the timeline too much :)
Perhaps he should talk to his Dad ... Sulu used to travel in time as well.

psbp516

11-21-2006, 01:00 PM

Wow, did last nights episode blow. Nothing happened besides sylar getting captured by that one chick and the black mind eraser guy. We didn't learn why "save the cheerleader save the world" was important like we were lead to believe in the previews for the episode. And the battle between sylar and peter was lame: sylar threw lockers at peter then they both fell off the roof. The whole show was about claire and her school friends and the writers creating a completely unrealistic school drama, which led to nothing (although it still made me wet my pants when the ***** girl said "We use to be BFFS!") I now reclaim my statements that this show is lame and it has two episodes to redeem itself before I pretend that I am going to give it up forever.

psbp516

11-21-2006, 01:22 PM

I just finished reading the webcomic and it seems like the girl that captured sylar (eden?) has the same power as the girl in that one "comic for people who don't like comics" that they reviewed a couple of weeks ago. She can make people do what she wants with her voice. Which adds the question, why couldn't she make mohinder stay in america? Anyway that is pretty cool, even though the show still sucks.

funnelfish

11-21-2006, 01:40 PM

You mean Demo?

So I don't think that Sean Bean IS Sylar... you got some pretty good glimpses of his eyes last night and in the preview... doesn't look like Mr. Bean.

But damn that was a good episode. Good enough for me to step away from Zelda for an hour anyway.

kevmann16

11-21-2006, 03:37 PM

I captured this off last night episode it looks like its not sean bean?

http://static.flickr.com/122/302801003_a91c5a4f4b_o.jpg

it sort of looks a bit like Peter, simliar nose, ears and face shape

http://static.flickr.com/115/302804820_840a2abb79_o.png

Also I when thought that it was a future version of peter I thought how cool if he broke his watch during the fight he had with himself so future him or slyar has a broke watch, it would of stopped at 8.12pm however when I checked the broken watch on slyar in the last episode shows 5 to 12.

http://static.flickr.com/104/302808890_272c18a57f_o.png

Looking at the picture I doubt it is Peter but it doesnt look like sean bean or Christopher Eccleston

psbp516

11-21-2006, 03:41 PM

Sylar is not peter. End of story.

bigyanks

11-21-2006, 04:48 PM

Also I when thought that it was a future version of peter I thought how cool if he broke his watch during the fight he had with himself so future him or slyar has a broke watch, it would of stopped at 8.12pm however when I checked the broken watch on slyar in the last episode shows 5 to 12.

he broke his watch killing mohinders father

slowmtnsilhouette

11-21-2006, 04:51 PM

dammit! i totally forgot about the webcomic... now i have to catch up...

bravestarr

11-21-2006, 05:13 PM

see, the thing is you need to look at the big picture. the overall goal is to keep Nitro from blowing up NY, and Claire obviously is key in doing so, either directly or indirectly by serving as some kind of Hero catalyst. i think the promotion for the show is actually having a negative effect by promising all these huge ass revelations. i stopped expecting jaw dropping, wtf moments a few episodes back and it’s made the story an f-ton more enjoyable. now i’m gettin hyped up over simple dialogue more than power flexing. like Jessica’s “let’s go huntin” line, whom i still very much like as a character and don’t see why everyone’s hating on her.

the other cool thing about these last couple of eps was how they’re adding more depth to the supporting peeps, like Claire’s pop, Hiro’s homie and Claire’s “boyfriend”. and i’m loving how their using Hiro’s leap back to show what was crackin before the storyline started in ep1. nice.

oh, i still think someone's living inside Nikki. maybe not DL like i thought, but someone.

buxomia

11-21-2006, 06:28 PM

I'm only 20 min in but two things...

One...ali larter's story is going NOWHERE, I'm bored with it, just kill her off and give us more of the mind reader and radioactive dude

Two...is anyone else sick of Peter's flock of seagulls haircut?

jonathanlondon

11-21-2006, 06:47 PM

Wait. In the paintings, there's DEFINITELY one of Hiro and his friend under the Homecoming banner. In the episode last night there was no scene like that at all (and barely any Hiro). Maybe that'll happen next episode. We'll see.

Anyone think Mohinder has powers?

I think Peter has a secondary power called Getting a Flight to Odessa or Midland Texas from NYC that DOESN'T Take 12 Hours worth of Layovers. Does anything FLY to Odessa or Midland!?!