Episode 6 - "Sick"

[conorkilpatrick]

Episode #5 is here! Rejoice!

http://www.ifanboy.com/images/iFanboy_006_100x100.jpg

iFanboy returns to Jim Hanley's Universe in New York City to get the scoop from Ed Brubaker and Dan Slott! It's not all fun and games, though. Like a California wildfire a virus spread through iFanboy leaving death and destruction in its wake. Perhaps that's a bit over dramatic, but the sickness knocked out Josh, which left Ron & Conor to do the show in a haze of over-the-counter cold medicines and ancient, mysterious herbal remedies found only in the deepest, darkest corners of Chinatown.

Click here to discuss the show (http://www.ifanboy.com/archive/weblog/ifanboy_episode_9.html)!

[fred]

when watching the opening my immediate reaction was:

I don't watch movies like this - oh right that's what it is

[baxter]

Dan Slott is a great guy. I met him last year at Philly and he was one of the most entertaining people on the marvel panels. I hope he'll be back this year.

I really love Brubaker. I've been following his work since I came back into comics and found him on the various Batman books. Being a DC guy it kinda annoys me how much Mravel I have to buy thanks to him. I mean I was already on board with Daredevil, but captain America? Not exactly something thats on my list normally.

Any word on Brubaker's con schedule?

With Criminal Brubaker just put up that review sources can request copies of the first Criminal trade. I do some work for a local newspaper and I think I'm going to see if the editor would be game for it. I think he will. He loves Brubaker's Cap too. :D

[fred]

almost done with this now

nice job guys

[iSteve]

Just finished. Best show yet. Really dig these signing shows. Great interviews. Makes me appreciate Brubaker and Slott all the more.

[kwok_talk]

I was just thinking how iFanboy is really the only Rev3 show left (aside from Diggnation and Pixel Perfect) that actually puts out material on a consistent basis. That’s really indicative of how dedicated you guys are. Thanks!

[JAFlanagan]

I was just thinking how iFanboy is really the only Rev3 show left (aside from Diggnation and Pixel Perfect) that actually puts out material on a consistent basis. That’s really indicative of how dedicated you guys are. Thanks!

You should give us more time to blow it.

(thanks.)

[iSteve]

Good to see Gordon the Intern return this episode - even if he was dozing.

[labor_days]

I simply can't imagine where the iFanboys find the time to produce not one but two podcasts. And they posts on the boards and site proper as well.

Best comics podcast ever? I would not necessarily disagree.

[pv_2]

Excellent. Love the interview 'casts. Thanks!

[six-gun]

You guys were in the same room as Brubaker? Whoa, how was it, did he speak like a charecter in a noir novel? Was he blind and walked around with the aid of soundwaves. Or did he carry a big sheild and end the night in tears in the custody of two NYPD officers after being tackled by a well meaning group of bystanders?

[JAFlanagan]

We tried to bring him in on a bank job, but he wasn't interested.

[k-dizzle]

So Brubaker's a racist. Thats great. The Jap comment had in in tears, but then again I usually cry every wednesday.

[acomicbookgirl]

Loved the interview.. Brubaker is getting on my good writer list... :) Thanks guys!

[jimski]

Big fun! Thanks for having this idea, fellows.

Conor, did you have the Brubaker thread in mind when asking about X-Men, or was that discussion just a nice piece of serendipity?

[conorkilpatrick]

Big fun! Thanks for having this idea, fellows.

Conor, did you have the Brubaker thread in mind when asking about X-Men, or was that discussion just a nice piece of serendipity?

Serendipity!

[kwok_talk]

Great episode. Brubaker didn't look at all like I envisioned him to look like. (something like Locke from Lost or Ed Harris)

[six-gun]

So Brubaker's a racist. Thats great. The Jap comment had in in tears, but then again I usually cry every wednesday.


I thougt it was kind of funny, that he's so into writing Cap that he's like, oh yeah, Jap. I almost see him like Bucky in Winter Soldier: Winter Kills when he says pansy and Kate Bishop's all "pissy spoiled teen" and Bucky's all like "I'm not from around here"

[JAFlanagan]

I believe the "jap" comment was an ironic take on the vernacular of the time.

But then, maybe he's a HUGE biggot.

[labor_days]

Brubaker was not joking about those old Captain America covers. To wit~

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/168/399999148_24a43ca4cd_o.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/130/399999120_425b2c9881_o.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/141/399999079_9690712117_o.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/171/399999052_667453df37_o.jpg

Chalk it up to "different times", I suppose. Yeesh.

[JAFlanagan]

Chalk it up to "different times", I suppose. Yeesh.

Not so much...

http://www.iflipflop.com/uploaded_images/photoshop6-785848.jpg

[iSteve]

Not so much...

http://www.iflipflop.com/uploaded_images/photoshop6-785848.jpg

Yikes!!!!!!

[JAFlanagan]

Not a real screenshot, btw. But you get the point.

[fred]

I believe the "jap" comment was an ironic take on the vernacular of the time.

But then, maybe he's a HUGE biggot.

Now I expect this sort of behavior out of BKV, but Bru ......

[fred]

Bill O'Reilly eats babies

I can't find the screenshots though

[labor_days]

Scary thing is it would not be a stretch to imagine Fox News covering Kent State in such a way.

[drwally]

On use of the word "Jap":

Now I expect this sort of behavior out of BKV, but Bru ......

People tend to idealize WWII. You can't believe people then were saying "our lovely Japanese friends we have to kill by the dozens with flame throwers by the dozens, the ones that sneak attacked us, yes, those lovely people" back then. And Japanese were calling westerners far worse, there is even a book about how bad it got on both sides. I'll take a little period accurate terminology to 2007 PC revisionist history any day in depicting those time. And Martin Luther King, Jr. always used the word "negro" in all his speeches, and never was he insulting anybody -- quite the contrary.

Take a look at this for some real "Golden Age" propaganda doozies, when America really was a nation at war (with Superman no less):
http://www.superdickery.com/propaganda/1.html

[fred]

This is more offensive than a Liefeld cover:

http://www.superdickery.com/images/dick/97_4_0000058.jpg

[drwally]

This is more offensive than a Liefeld cover:

http://www.superdickery.com/images/dick/97_4_0000058.jpg

I see you made it to that link I posted... that's just the beginning, that site is full of stuff. Check out "Superman is a Dick" and "Everything is Better With Monkies" -- I love that none of the stuff has been "altered" in any way -- just the original covers as is. Oh, and "Seduction of the Innocent"...that one is pretty "ouch, What was DC thinking?"

[fred]

I clicked through some of them, not all obviously as I missed Superman is a Dick. One would think I'd immediately gravitate to that one.

[k-dizzle]

There has to be some of this racial nonsense coming from the Marvel camp from this time period as well. Can anyone dig up some covers and post them?

[fred]

from the period? It's only been since Wolverine #131 for Marvel

[jimski]

When I was a kid, our local UHF station was like the wild west; I swear it was just the owner's brother-in-law randomly putting tapes in. Anyway, for half an hour a day in the afternoon, they'd show Warner Brothers cartoons like somebody was picking them blindfolded. As a result, about once a week, when I was four or five, I saw a cartoon in which Bugs Bunny singlehandedly massacred the Japanese Navy by feeding them grenades.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcHqFFhr89k

There are approximately 90 seconds of this cartoon that are not offensive to every sensibility, but I think the parts most relevant to this discussion are at around the 2:00 mark and everything from 5:45 on. The ethnic slurs around 6:15 are pretty amazing.

So, that is definitely the Way It Was. And mind you, this was being shown on TV as late as the seventies.

[k-dizzle]

, I saw a cartoon in which Bugs Bunny singlehandedly massacred the Japanese Navy by feeding them grenades.



I have a bad feeling in a few years from now someone driving a Honda Civic with spinning rims, is going to want 'financial reparations' for this outrageous cartoon.