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vahnx
02-22-2007, 11:04 PM
There drinking 40s on Attack of the Show right now. I also heard on one episode they got most of their news from Digg.com.
Lots of the time they talk about the same stuff they talk about on Diggnation. It kinda angers me because I know someone at G4 must be stealing ideas.
magunwarrior
02-22-2007, 11:13 PM
Everything comes from a source bro, Digg.com is a source, such as CNN, Kotaku, Joystiq, ect.
masherscf
02-22-2007, 11:18 PM
imitation... the sincerest form of flattery...
ctrl-alt-tristan
02-23-2007, 02:58 AM
yeah its not like digg.com has some rule against using their stories i mean i think by now every single site on the internet has been posted on digg. I mean as we speak someone is probably posting this topic.
magunwarrior
02-23-2007, 03:16 AM
I'm in your topic, posting your responses.
darknessgp
02-23-2007, 04:03 PM
There drinking 40s on Attack of the Show right now. I also heard on one episode they got most of their news from Digg.com.
Lots of the time they talk about the same stuff they talk about on Diggnation. It kinda angers me because I know someone at G4 must be stealing ideas.
Although I disagree with the they are stealing ideas. Seeing how Digg.com is all about linking to stories. And AOTS has said that they get most of their content from Digg.com and then proceeded to claim Kevin as "one of their own" (which he is not, he was a TSS guy, not the utter shit that is AOTS)
AOTS is a poser. They tried to convince everyone that AOTS and TSS are the same thing, but they are vastly different. Right now it seems that AOTS is just trying to stay alive. They have soo much shit in there that really only attracts stupid people that think they are cool or teenage kids that it's really sad. But all of G4 is like that. Hell, they now show cops, which doesn't relate to tech or games at all. They are just trying to stay afloat. I just wish they would die and die hard so that maybe a new tech channel could come about, and would know what not to do with the channel.
masherscf
02-23-2007, 05:38 PM
And AOTS has said that they get most of their content from Digg.com and then proceeded to claim Kevin as "one of their own" (which he is not, he was a TSS guy, not the utter shit that is AOTS)
I think denying the association that Kevin Rose has with G4 and AOTS is probably unwarranted. Kevin Rose did work with those people for months before AOTS was launched and he probably was witness to the genesis of AOTS. It has often been remarked that TSS became AOTS long before the name was changed. If that is true, Kevin Rose had a front row seat. In any case, there are clearly genuine bonds between some of the production staff at AOTS and Kevin Rose. Kevin Rose has even described Kevin Periera as "his boy."
darknessgp
02-23-2007, 06:55 PM
I think denying the association that Kevin Rose has with G4 and AOTS is probably unwarranted. Kevin Rose did work with those people for months before AOTS was launched and he probably was witness to the genesis of AOTS. It has often been remarked that TSS became AOTS long before the name was changed. If that is true, Kevin Rose had a front row seat. In any case, there are clearly genuine bonds between some of the production staff at AOTS and Kevin Rose. Kevin Rose has even described Kevin Periera as "his boy."
NO. AOTS right after the merger and even a little bit after the name of the channel fully switched over to G4 was similar to TSS. However, it is now a shit fest of crap. Seriously, go back and watch TSS back with Leo and Pat, then watch one of the shows that Alex was on (after merger) and then watch a recent episode. The recent ones are no where close to what AOTS was. It may have started as a name change, but it is way way way far from that now. It doesn't really matter if Kevin has some connections with the staff. We don't know how much pull they have, plus Kevin himself said he loves doing Rev3 because he can do what he wants. He doesn't have someone deciding what they are going to do for them. So don't think that because Kevin P (I hate him btw) is in tight with KRose means shit about how the show is run. Plus, Kevin and Alex have said that they hate G4. Yea, they have friends that work there, but they still hate the network.
rhett803
02-23-2007, 08:03 PM
TSS was Pat and Leo. No insults to Kevin Rose or any of the other host, but what they hosted was just not truly TSS. AOTS when it first started wasn't that bad. It has slowly involved into crap, but the beginning wasn't too bad. And dont' forget that Kevin Rose was there in the beginning.
Kevin P. and all the others on it now, read their lines off of a teleprompter. It's a job. As far as jobs go, it's kinda a neat and cool one.
Why does tech tv shit always have to come up and be posted.
We Love, We Hate, Who Cares.
rayjay99
02-24-2007, 01:40 AM
Why does tech tv shit always have to come up and be posted.
We Love, We Hate, Who Cares.
Well i don't think it's just the tech tv fans that do it im a G4 forum's member and the G4 fan's do it too they are all over at the g4 forums. Neil tiles must of done a crap of no good now.
masherscf
02-24-2007, 02:22 AM
Yea, they have friends that work there, but they still hate the network.
Somewhere in you mindless rant, I got the impression you didn't read my post.
I'll keep my observations simple. Please read them carefully all and don't bother giving a reply. I'm not trying to argue with you, I'm trying to give a honest appraisal.
1. It is completely within reason that anyone from G4 or AOTS refer to Kevin Rose as "their own" because Kevin worked with them for months.
2. It has nothing to do with the pile of shit that G4 has become or how much AOTS is not TSS.
3. It has to do with familial bonds that some of the people there may feel toward Kevin because they shared office space. Nothing more.
noxdineen
02-25-2007, 12:44 AM
Threads like this make me happy we don't get G4 in Canada.
As for getting their news from Digg, so what? Digg is just an aggregator, not a content generator. It's lazy as hell to just pull content for another show from Digg, but beyond that there's nothing wrong with their technique for sourcing stories.
vahnx
02-25-2007, 01:30 AM
Threads like this make me happy we don't get G4 in Canada.
As for getting their news from Digg, so what? Digg is just an aggregator, not a content generator. It's lazy as hell to just pull content for another show from Digg, but beyond that there's nothing wrong with their technique for sourcing stories.
It's not just that they get most of their news from Digg.com. They had Dr. Tiki on their show before, they mentioned "K Rose" as one of there own, it just seems after an episode of Diggnation airs, everything they talked about on Diggnation is mentioned in the following week on AOTS...
I will watch CFH, then I leave AOTS running in the background and I turn to it when they talk about tech or games. But most of the time it's just garbage and they do sound like Diggnation wannabe's. I always thought this, but I brought it up when they started drinking 40's like TheBroken/Diggnation.
PS I also sniff lots of the G4 staff in this thread for some unknown strange magical force reason.
jokerthief
02-26-2007, 03:43 AM
This is for all you AOTS haters.
Patrick Norton on Attack Of The Show (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvuPrOHtp0c)
I don't mind AOTS, but this had me clenching my fist.
darknessgp
02-26-2007, 04:17 AM
This is for all you AOTS haters.
Patrick Norton on Attack Of The Show (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvuPrOHtp0c)
I don't mind AOTS, but this had me clenching my fist.
How is this against AOTS haters? I mean, who wouldn't be one of their video phone discussion guys? Seriously, Pat got paid for basically doing a 8 minute video conference. It's not like he was hosting the show, which I don't think any of the old TSS guys would ever do.
masherscf, Let me remind you of the first sentence I quoted of yours...
"I think denying the association that Kevin Rose has with G4 and AOTS is probably unwarranted." If you were refering to people that work at the company you wouldn't refer to it by name... i.e. You'd say "denying the association that Kevin Rose has with people at G4 and AOTS." But you said just the association he has with G4 and AOTS, and because of that I completely thought you were talking about how he feels towards the network, not the friends he has that work there.
jokerthief
02-26-2007, 05:05 AM
How is this against AOTS haters? I mean, who wouldn't be one of their video phone discussion guys? Seriously, Pat got paid for basically doing a 8 minute video conference. It's not like he was hosting the show, which I don't think any of the old TSS guys would ever do.
It was surreal and I wanted to share it. I think some ardent AOTS haters will be upset that the one time host comes back and is just a guest. I am by no means a AOTS hater, yet I found myself to be a little melancholy while watching it.
rayjay99
02-26-2007, 05:30 AM
It was surreal and I wanted to share it. I think some ardent AOTS haters will be upset that the one time host comes back and is just a guest. I am by no means a AOTS hater, yet I found myself to be a little melancholy while watching it.
well i have to say Three things. 1 The Loop is one of AOTS's sometimes very techie segments. 2 Patrick Looked like he was having fun and that vista thing was not the only time patrick appeared on the loop He was on when they were talking about the Zune i have to find the video though. and finally three i agree that AOTS is posing but from what i have been noticing lately the whole channel (G4 ) has started to Be Geek Posers Because they have been losing viewers. They have dropped shows like Formula D and the Beth O Version of Filter. I think G4 will die because They are at a crossroads. They want to keep there old fan's the gamers and techies while trying to get there new viewers the Jock's, Arm chair quarterbacks, Perverts, and Gangstas.
if you want to know what the gamers think about what's going on visit http://www.g4rewind.com
malvitz
02-26-2007, 11:31 AM
Doesn't anyone remember when it was leo and kate?
rayjay99
02-26-2007, 02:05 PM
Doesn't anyone remember when it was leo and kate?
No i don't because i was starting to watch techtv the moment g4 bought them out. but i have seen video's. all i have to say is leo needs to sue charles hershorn for stealing stuff from leo like The Screen savers and haking the name up. it feels to me like hershorn was being told buy anti file sharing studio's to trash Leo! I know that sounds conspiratorial but what the hell.
shadowbird712
02-26-2007, 02:30 PM
Doesn't anyone remember when it was leo and kate?
No, but I can remember when TechTV was still TechTV, and when they were still in the "basement" set...
darknessgp
02-26-2007, 03:38 PM
I kind of lol'd when I read the "Doesn't anyone remember when it was leo and kate?" Cause, A) I bet a lot of people started watching when it got taken by G4. and B) The first episode I remember was when they first aired on TechTV. Back when it was better than when Kev and Alex were on there, yea I said it, want to fight about it?
masherscf
02-26-2007, 03:47 PM
I kind of lol'd when I read the "Doesn't anyone remember when it was leo and kate?" Cause, A) I bet a lot of people started watching when it got taken by G4. and B) The first episode I remember was when they first aired on TechTV. Back when it was better than when Kev and Alex were on there, yea I said it, want to fight about it?
You'd be surprised how many TechTV old timers are lurking in the wood pile. However, TechTV wasn't picked-up by my cable system until well after Kate left. I do remember Jessica Corbin with great fondness.
dremmy
02-26-2007, 06:24 PM
*thinks it's starting to sound like a "Mine is bigger" contest*
wh33z3r
02-26-2007, 07:35 PM
AOTS was good back in the day. now it is crap.
darknessgp
02-26-2007, 11:26 PM
AOTS was good back in the day. now it is crap.
I have to agree, only somewhat differently. First it was was TSS, then after the merger they renamed it to AOTS, by this time the show lost a little bit of goodness, but was still very much like it was before the name change. Then for some reason they just started pulling out all the goodness and slamming in what they thought was pop culture stuff, i.e. sex and etc. That's when it turned to pure shit.
mikegraham6
03-22-2007, 06:11 PM
Threads like this make me happy we don't get G4 in Canada.
As for getting their news from Digg, so what? Digg is just an aggregator, not a content generator. It's lazy as hell to just pull content for another show from Digg, but beyond that there's nothing wrong with their technique for sourcing stories.
We do have G4 in Canada. It's called G4TechTV and it is on channel 250 on Rogers Digital. In fact the canadian channel still has Leo Laporte on Call For Help, and i believe Kevin Rose visited the show sometime last year. thats been my only exposure to Leo, i never saw him on the screen savers.
cowmanbob
03-24-2007, 07:23 PM
news needs to come from somewhere it is a good show.(not as good as diggnation of course) so you need to not think of it as ripping off diggnation but complimenting them in the mainstream broadcasting...