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watsonglenn
03-03-2007, 05:37 PM
I just finished the last issue of 'The Oath.'

It turned out very well. Strange faced a moral quandary and decided to use his magic to save his friend instead of the world.

But its more complicated than that. Niccademus was right. Strange had to let the human race find its own cures and solutions instead of being given them by magical means.

Magically curing disease might make Strange feel better and help a lot of people but what sort of unseen effects might this cure ultimately have on humanity? I am not talking about magical side effects like demons or mutations but rather the loss of humanity's independence. Humanity might become too dependent on Strange's magical cures and stop taking care of and improving itself.

In destroying the magical cure for all disease I think Niccademus did the right thing. In giving Strange the choice of losing his friend and saving the world or saving his friend and letting the world continue to suffer disease I also think he did the right thing. Niccademous was not making the descision by himself. He let Strange do it but at some cost.

Its interesting that Superman is currently facing this same moral dilemma in his comic.

the Question is an old one. How much help is too much. Capping a volcano is one thing but curing all disease or ending nuclear war is something Super-humans should hesitate to do even if they can.

Helping humanity is one thing, paternalistically babysitting them is another. To much help from superbeings might cripple humanity by making it unable to survive without superhuman help. Of course that has always been Luthor's problem with Superman. Superman makes normal humans look weak.

Maybe that was Captain America's mistake in Civil War. He wants everyone to be like him honest and brave like him. If that was the case we would not need the Registration Act. But Tony and the drunk reporter realize humans are not that way and never will be. People, just like like kids have to make their own mistakes and find their own solutions. They have to overcome obstacles or they become weak.

As for the rest of 'The Oath,' well the art by Marcos Martin was not to my taste. I like a more heroic style of art but I can see how this fit the story.

I also like the concept of the Night Nurse. Her romance with Strange might just work as a story. I hope its not forgotten now that Strange is in the Avengers.

kwok_talk
03-03-2007, 06:09 PM
Some great points. I'm not really into Strange, but it was a good mini-series.

acomicbookgirl
03-03-2007, 08:52 PM
Will there be a trade of this?

mikegraham6
03-03-2007, 08:53 PM
Will there be a trade of this?

thats what im interested in. i read the first issue and i thought it would read as a great trade. i hope there is one coming soon, i told my LCS to oder one for me as soon as they see it

iSteve
03-03-2007, 08:53 PM
Will there be a trade of this?

I'm sure there will be.

paper
03-03-2007, 09:05 PM
Trade's coming in June (http://www.amazon.com/Doctor-Strange-Oath-Brian-Vaughan/dp/0785122117/ref=sr_1_4/105-9664821-9125247?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1172955905&sr=1-4).

mikegraham6
03-03-2007, 09:14 PM
Trade's coming in June (http://www.amazon.com/Doctor-Strange-Oath-Brian-Vaughan/dp/0785122117/ref=sr_1_4/105-9664821-9125247?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1172955905&sr=1-4).

cheers Paper!

acomicbookgirl
03-03-2007, 09:14 PM
Trade's coming in June (http://www.amazon.com/Doctor-Strange-Oath-Brian-Vaughan/dp/0785122117/ref=sr_1_4/105-9664821-9125247?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1172955905&sr=1-4).

Thanks! I remember reading about this way back when and next thing you know everyone is talking about it. I highly doubt my LCS has all of the issues... Then again, the trade is probably gonna be cheaper..

paper
03-03-2007, 09:20 PM
cheers Paper!

No worries. I've been scouring Amazon for trades at work. Far too many on my list, but new BKV books are always top priority.

Sadly, I haven't been able to find a release date for The Escapists trade...

mikegraham6
03-03-2007, 09:28 PM
No worries. I've been scouring Amazon for trades at work. Far too many on my list, but new BKV books are always top priority.

Sadly, I haven't been able to find a release date for The Escapists trade...

Thats another one i told my LCS to look out for, i hear that book kicks ass. The story doesn't sound like my cup a tea but its BKV so i give him the benefit of the doubt

acomicbookgirl
03-03-2007, 09:34 PM
No worries. I've been scouring Amazon for trades at work. Far too many on my list, but new BKV books are always top priority.

Sadly, I haven't been able to find a release date for The Escapists trade...


I agree. I have this long list of trades I want and DVD's I want.

watsonglenn
03-03-2007, 10:46 PM
The only trade I really want right now is that expensive 'New Frontier' the boys talked about.

jimski
03-03-2007, 11:00 PM
I started searching for the Oath trade in Amazon right after #1 came out. I am all atwitter waiting for its release; it's one of the first times I've ever managed to successfully Wait for the Trade without cracking.

iSteve
03-03-2007, 11:09 PM
I started searching for the Oath trade in Amazon right after #1 came out. I am all atwitter waiting for its release; it's one of the first times I've ever managed to successfully Wait for the Trade without cracking.

It will be worth the wait, Jimski.

watsonglenn
03-03-2007, 11:22 PM
I started searching for the Oath trade in Amazon right after #1 came out. I am all atwitter waiting for its release; it's one of the first times I've ever managed to successfully Wait for the Trade without cracking.

Dang. I hope I did not ruin anything for you. Should I have put a spoilers in the thread title?

paper
03-03-2007, 11:37 PM
It will be worth the wait, Jimski.

I cracked. I bought #1 to see if I liked it. Then I bought 6...presumably because I'm weak.

I will still buy the trade.

watsonglenn
03-03-2007, 11:45 PM
I cracked. I bought #1 to see if I liked it. Then I bought 6...presumably because I'm weak.

I will still buy the trade.

You disgust me.

watsonglenn
03-03-2007, 11:47 PM
You disgust me.

I'm joking, you don't disgust me. I did not have the guts to just let the joke lie there.

paper
03-03-2007, 11:51 PM
No worries. I avoided mirrors the whole rest of the day. I couldn't stand to look at the man who ruined a mini-series for himself.

But c'mon. June? That's like....what, 19 months away? Ugh. I had to know what happened to Vincent Price the Super Hero.

jimski
03-03-2007, 11:56 PM
Dang. I hope I did not ruin anything for you. Should I have put a spoilers in the thread title?

Actually, my superpower is the ability to see a spoiler coming and mentally screen it out, either not reading it at all or pretending I didn't. I'm only 1/3rd kidding.

jaflanagan
03-04-2007, 12:01 AM
I'm joking, you don't disgust me. I did not have the guts to just let the joke lie there.

You need to learn the awesome power of the smiley. If not for the smiley, I'd have made a lot of people angry at me.

;)

Seriously.

;)

iSteve
03-04-2007, 12:05 AM
You need to learn the awesome power of the smiley. If not for the smiley, I'd have made a lot of people angry at me.

;)

Seriously.

;)

The internets is good for many things, but irony and sarcasm not not among the things most easily conveyed.:)

six-gun
03-04-2007, 12:35 AM
This was my personal POW, I loved it in every single way.

paper
03-04-2007, 12:38 AM
This was my personal POW, I loved it in every single way.

In a way that, say, a woman or well coiffed sheep could be loved?

Because if ever a Dr. Strange mini-series deserved it...

watsonglenn
03-04-2007, 02:00 AM
Actually, my superpower is the ability to see a spoiler coming and mentally screen it out, either not reading it at all or pretending I didn't. I'm only 1/3rd kidding.

Lets test that power. In the next issue Cap ---------------------------------

Hey it worked.

Is that funny without the smiley face?

paper
03-04-2007, 02:01 AM
That aint cool, man. That's a big spoiler. You should edit that out.