The Thread of Shame [Archive]

ekval

03-06-2007, 06:06 PM

Watchmen
Sandman (well, I have a couple of issues)
Preacher
Crisis

I want to read these, just haven't made it around to a couple and I am fairly sure that I'll detest at least one of them despite the praise on them.

I've read Superman comics Kwok, but rarely good ones.

fred

03-06-2007, 06:08 PM

invisibles and transmetropolitan, although i mean to... i'll get to them eventually

transmet is excellent

cam-

03-06-2007, 06:12 PM

I haven't read Any of Bru's Cap. Does that count as shameful (I'm canadian after all)?

mikegraham6

03-06-2007, 06:13 PM

I haven't read Any of Bru's Cap. Does that count as shameful (I'm canadian after all)?

alpha flight (no matter how awful) is mandatory reading up here :D

xyzzy

03-06-2007, 06:14 PM

cam-

03-06-2007, 06:17 PM

transmet is excellent

True, THe Invisible's is good too, though it runs out of steam near the end, the beginning is great however, It left me unsatisfied.

mikegraham6

03-06-2007, 06:17 PM

Well, I read several volumes of Sandman, Preacher, 100 Bullets, Transmetropolitan and others and lost interest or didn't care for them.

I don't feel ashamed about it though. I gave them a shot. Wasn't for me.

i think 100 bullets is overrated, i have the first 4 trades and then lost interest, i didn't like the writing style or the art, and the way the story was moving didn't interest me

cam-

03-06-2007, 06:20 PM

alpha flight (no matter how awful) is mandatory reading up here :D

We have to be careful talking about ALPHA FLIGHT in the thread of shame, people might get the wrong idea.

We should talk about it in the thread of awesomeness!!!

mikegraham6

03-06-2007, 06:21 PM

We have to be careful talking about ALPHA FLIGHT in the thread of shame, people might get the wrong idea.

We should talk about it in the thread of awesomeness!!!

good point, PUCK is the MAN!!!

kwok_talk

03-06-2007, 06:24 PM

I haven't read Any of Bru's Cap. Does that count as shameful (I'm canadian after all)?

I just read it, so I ducked that shame.

xyzzy

03-06-2007, 06:26 PM

i think 100 bullets is overrated, i have the first 4 trades and then lost interest, i didn't like the writing style or the art, and the way the story was moving didn't interest me

I really don't like the term "overrated." It implies that people who rate it highly are somehow being disingenuous. That it's only esteemed because of hype or reputation or some non-story related reason. I like to assume good faith. A lot of people like it. I didn't. That's all that needs to be said.

pv_2

03-06-2007, 06:27 PM

This topic has been on my mind, as I just finally started Y: The Last Man - and when I set out that day, it was to get Preacher Vol. 2, but made a game-time decision. I've since torn through Y vol. 1 and already bought vol. 2. And so here's my remaining list of Books I'm Always Saying I'll Get To (in some kinda order of most shameful):

Sleeper
From Hell
Preacher
Powers
Invincible

miguel_from_ithaca

03-06-2007, 06:28 PM

Maus
ten chars

mister-s

03-06-2007, 06:29 PM

Hmm...

THe whole of Dark Phoenix - I have read parts though.
Pretty much anything published between 2000 and 2005.

mikegraham6

03-06-2007, 06:29 PM

I really don't like the term "overrated." It implies that people who rate it highly are somehow being disingenuous. That it's only esteemed because of hype or reputation or some non-story related reason. I like to assume good faith. A lot of people like it. I didn't. That's all that needs to be said.

i agree with that, i dont mean any negativity when i use the term overrated, i just didn't enjoy the book and in my opinion it wasn't worth the praise it got, but people can enjoy whatever they want...

jgg0610

03-06-2007, 06:36 PM

The list is long and sad.

Alan Moore's Swamp Thing
Transmetropolitan
Sleeper
Dark Phoenix Saga
Grant Morrison's X-Men
Invisibles
Maus
From Hell
Sandman
Brubaker's Captain America

All are on my list of things to read, just haven't made it yet.

mikegraham6

03-06-2007, 07:06 PM

i have a copy of from hell that, as ron would say, fell of the truck and onto my computer. i searched all over my city for a copy and couldn't find it. i haven't read it yet, its pretty long and i dont like reading off my pc some i might just keep up the search.

acomicbookgirl

03-06-2007, 07:19 PM

God.. I'm sorry.. I know I should but I haven't gotten to them.. I know shame on me. :o

Invincible
Dark Knight Returns
Ronin
Lost Girls
Maus
Transmetropolitan
Swap Thing
Sleeper
Powers
Preacher
Strangers in Paradise

k-dizzle

03-06-2007, 10:53 PM

I cant belive so many people have not read Dark Knight returns. It is the best comic story I have ever read.

Maus
Powers
Sandman
The Golem

mikegraham6

03-06-2007, 11:22 PM

I cant belive so many people have not read Dark Knight returns. It is the best comic story I have ever read.

Maus
Powers
Sandman
The Golem

Powers is up there. i think its one of the best comics being published right now. the freedom bendis has with these characters is its strength, he can go in any direction, and in the past year, he has.

Big recommendations on this one...

will_lund

03-06-2007, 11:29 PM

Bendis' run on Daredevil
Swamp Thing
League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
Any Hellblazer that wasn't in Sandman
Kingdom Come
Maus
Stray Bullets

watsonglenn

03-06-2007, 11:30 PM

Here’s where you can shamefully confess what you have never read, despite the fact that you call yourself a comic fan.

For me:
-Watchmen
-Preacher
-Any Superman comic
-Infinite Crisis
-Dark Phoenix Saga

Good Lord!!! My next question to you has to be, "Can you read?"

I have never read

Bone
Transmet
The Invisibles
From Hell

xyzzy

03-06-2007, 11:41 PM

Powers is up there. i think its one of the best comics being published right now. the freedom bendis has with these characters is its strength, he can go in any direction, and in the past year, he has.

Big recommendations on this one...

This is really what I love about indy comics, in general. With Powers, when Bendis puts characters in jeopardy, there's real tension. With Marvel and DC, when a comic ends with a cliffhanger where the main character is in mortal danger, there's no real tension. We all know that he's going to escape or be resurected or whatever. But if Bendis (or whoever) wants to kill their own character in the interest of a good story, he can. And does.

This is also true, to a lesser extent for comics on the fringe of continuity (Runaways, Alias, Livewires, Manhunter) and out of continuity comics (DKR, Superman: Secret Identity, Red Son, etc.).

big-doze

03-06-2007, 11:41 PM

Got through one trade of Invisibles. Wasn't for me.

Watchmen

Preacher

Sleeper

100 Bullets

DKR

Powers

Transmet

I'm sure there's more. My head hangs.

cam-

03-06-2007, 11:48 PM

Stray Bullets

Oh man I forgot about Stray Bullets, it's amazing! ultra violent intertwining storylines! Grand.

kal

03-06-2007, 11:53 PM

Maus - have it, will read it
Transmetropolitan - have some trades, will read it... eventually
Bone - have it, will read it
Marvels - have it, will read it
The Dark Phoenix Saga - have it, will read it
From Hell - don't have it, will read it one day

I'd have to look at my trade collection to see what else I still have to read. There's lots.

Right, I'm slogging through Preacher (on the 7th trade). I think next on my to read trades list is Marvels and Bone.

I'm surprised at the amount of peopel that haven't read DKR or Watchmen. Not so surprised at the amount of people who haven't read Sandman, though...

mikegraham6

03-07-2007, 12:02 AM

This is really what I love about indy comics, in general. With Powers, when Bendis puts characters in jeopardy, there's real tension. With Marvel and DC, when a comic ends with a cliffhanger where the main character is in mortal danger, there's no real tension. We all know that he's going to escape or be resurected or whatever. But if Bendis (or whoever) wants to kill their own character in the interest of a good story, he can. And does.

This is also true, to a lesser extent for comics on the fringe of continuity (Runaways, Alias, Livewires, Manhunter) and out of continuity comics (DKR, Superman: Secret Identity, Red Son, etc.).

its that level of uncertainty that adds to the read. your never sure whats gonna happen. its a completely different style of comic reading since it doesn't have the security of the major companies titles. course on the other hand, the writer do have to work harder in order for the death to resonate with the reader. we have to care for this character that we might not now as well as say, Spider-man.

Oh, one more book i haven't read is Bone. but i have the one volume edition on my amazon wish list and i'll get to it eventually. that wish list just gets longer and longer with the more time i spend on this forum. Thanks guys, that just what i need... to spend MORE money on comics :rolleyes:

xyzzy

03-07-2007, 12:05 AM

its that level of uncertainty that adds to the read. your never sure whats gonna happen. its a completely different style of comic reading since it doesn't have the security of the major companies titles. course on the other hand, the writer do have to work harder in order for the death to resonate with the reader. we have to care for this character that we might not now as well as say, Spider-man.

I have as much, if not more history with the Powers characters (it was my first comic) than I do with Spider-man, so it's really all plusses for me.

Oh, one more book i haven't read is Bone. but i have the one volume edition on my amazon wish list and i'll get to it eventually. that wish list just gets longer and longer with the more time i spend on this forum. Thanks guys, that just what i need... to spend MORE money on comics :rolleyes:

Bone is fantastic.

Something that I've purchased but not yet read is Little Nemo: Adventures in Slumberland. I'm looking forward to sitting down with it soon, though. The art is wonderful.

mikegraham6

03-07-2007, 12:08 AM

One other book thats on my wish list (and im probably going to order this weekend)---- PROJECT X CHALLENGERS: CUP NOODLE! i cant wait! ive had it on there for a few weeks now and after listening to this weeks podcast im going to bit the bullet and order it (i'll probably get BONE along with it)

vanhel

03-07-2007, 12:12 AM

The Dark Phoenix Saga- Not in a hurry to get this.
Maus -Been eyeing this for awhile, will probably pick this up.
Grant Morrison's X-Men -May try to find it, not really a Marvel fan anymore, but I'll give it a shot.

fred

03-07-2007, 12:14 AM

the ones people have given me shit for:
Bone
The Authority
Grant Morrison's Animal Man

luthor

03-07-2007, 12:23 AM

Bone
Maus
Sandman(but I don't feel guilty about it!)
Any Daredevil runs(I don't like the character)
Preacher
I've also never read a single issue of Archie that didn't co-star the Punisher.

darron

03-07-2007, 01:18 AM

V for Vendetta
Batman: Year One; The Long Halloween; Dark Victory (shoot me now)
Maus
Bone (I'm starting the complete series next....see ya'll in a year!)
The Authority
Astro City (I want to sooo bad, but don't know where to start)
From Hell
Strange Girl (That's for you, Freddie boy)
Morrison's Animal Man
Moore's Swamp Thing (Are trades for the above two readily available?)

xyzzy

03-07-2007, 01:25 AM

Astro City (I want to sooo bad, but don't know where to start)

Honestly, you could start anywhere. There's no required continuity between volumes. For a big story, I would recommend the Confessions tpb (v.2). For one of the short story collections, I'd say it's a push between Life in the Big City and Family Album.

Morrison's Animal Man
Moore's Swamp Thing (Are trades for the above two readily available?)

Yes.

darron

03-07-2007, 01:27 AM

Honestly, you could start anywhere. There's no required continuity between volumes. For a big story, I would recommend the Confessions tpb (v.2). For one of the short story collections, I'd say it's a push between Life in the Big City and Family Album.

Awesome man, thanks for the info!

watsonglenn

03-07-2007, 01:33 AM

I don't see how so many of you have not read 'Dark Knight Returns.' I mean thats like being a dirver and never reading a stop sign.

I bought the hard bound version and never regretted it.

Its the best Superhero comic ever written, bar none.

Hell I am going to go read it again right now.

I'm inviting you guys to come over and read it.

We can braid each other's hair and read passages.

fred

03-07-2007, 01:49 AM

Batman: Year One; The Long Halloween; Dark Victory (shoot me now)
Strange Girl (That's for you, Freddie boy)

dude, you need them all and V and from hell probably

darron

03-07-2007, 02:57 AM

dude, you need them all and V and from hell probably

The main reason I haven't bought those bat-books is because I know DC will put them all out in Absolute Editions, so i don't wanna have to buy 'em twice, y'know? I know either Long Halloween or Dark Victory are coming out in an Absolute edition soon, so I'll get that one then.

As for V, soo enough, young padawn. And From Hell is just too effing long...maybe if I take a week off work I'll breeze through it. ;-)

And last but not lease, Strange Girl is in fact on the way, should be here in (probablly) 2 weeks.

Two I forgot to add to the list:

Alias (still can't find an even relatively cheap copy)
&
those old Dennis O'Neil Green Lantern/Green Arrow stoires. IE. - this (http://www.amazon.com/Green-Lantern-Arrow-Collection/dp/1563896397/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/103-1173790-9872643?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1173236088&sr=8-2)

mikegraham6

03-07-2007, 03:25 AM

those old Dennis O'Neil Green Lantern/Green Arrow stoires. IE. - this (http://www.amazon.com/Green-Lantern-Arrow-Collection/dp/1563896397/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/103-1173790-9872643?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1173236088&sr=8-2)

i really want to pick up this book as well, i noticed there are a couple of collections, does anyone know which one is better? which one has the speedy/heroin storyline?

acomicbookgirl

03-07-2007, 04:10 AM

the ones people have given me shit for:
Bone
The Authority
Grant Morrison's Animal Man

I forgot about those.. Also with Morrison's Invisibles...

mikegraham6

03-07-2007, 04:12 AM

I forgot about those.. Also with Morrison's Invisibles...

there are three morrison animal man trades, i have the last 2 and i think the only one that is really groundbreaking is the final of the three. it has a moment i've never seen in any other comic before it. besides that i dont think you really need to read the first 2, if your tight on cash i'd skip it in favor of the last, you'll get by just fine ;)

humphrey-lee

03-07-2007, 04:45 AM

Right now I would say the only truly "essential" stuff that I've missed out on has been:

Strangers in Paradise (though, I'm waiting on the series to end and the last pocketbook to come out so I can buy it all at once).
Queen and Country
Cerebus
Gaiman's contribution to Miracleman (I've more or less read Moore's via the internets. **** you McFarlane)
Charles Burn's Black Hole
Mark Waid's Flash run

And I'm sorely lacking in R. Crumb stuff and have really only read about half of Tomine's Optic Nerve books. And there's a couple of Joe Kubert's books like Yosel that I need to pick up too.

Other than that, I think I'm pretty damn well read.

mikegraham6

03-07-2007, 04:47 AM

Right now I would say the only truly "essential" stuff that I've missed out on has been:

ive got to check out waid's flash as well, it suppose to be better than johns, which was pretty damn good.
Humphrey,
im not a fan of your avatar, especially tonight....:(

GO SENS GO!

humphrey-lee

03-07-2007, 05:13 AM

Humphrey,
im not a fan of your avatar, especially tonight....:(

Moohoohaha

deezer

03-07-2007, 05:03 PM

Daredevil (except in 1 trade, The Devil Inside and Out)
Sandman
Preacher
Dark Phoenix Sage
Y: The Last Man
many, many others that I should have read, but didn't

I'm attributing all this to the fact that I'm a poor high school student who just recently started reading comics

luthor

03-07-2007, 07:46 PM

I also have to admit with some shame...

I really really didn't like Dark Knight Returns.

**LET THE SPAMMING BEGIN!**

pv_2

03-08-2007, 12:26 AM

I see Swamp Thing on many people's list - if this were a current book, I prolly would have been moved to embark on a Fred-inspired Strange-Girl-esque marketing campaign. It's that great.

jadedhalo

03-08-2007, 12:38 AM

Never read:

Watchman
The Dark Knight Returns
Batman: The Killing Joke
V for Vendetta
From Hell
Dark Phoenix Saga
Madman
Bone

I'll get around to reading them after I catch up on:

Reading, not finished:
Fables
Daredevil
Invincible
The Walking Dead
Strange Girl
Gotham Central
Strangers in Paradise
Alias
Runaways
Y: The Last Man
Preacher
Sleeper

*sigh*

mikegraham6

03-08-2007, 12:55 AM

jadedhalo

03-08-2007, 01:10 AM

yikes dude, just yikes... you need to catch up on that man, your missing out

I'm working on it.

fred

03-08-2007, 01:10 AM

I see Swamp Thing on many people's list - if this were a current book, I prolly would have been moved to embark on a Fred-inspired Strange-Girl-esque marketing campaign. It's that great.

dude I totally get checks from Rick Remender for that

pv_2

03-08-2007, 01:27 AM

dude I totally get checks from Rick Remender for that

Something tells me Alan Moore wouldn't be as generous...

humphrey-lee

03-08-2007, 07:47 AM

jadedhalo

03-08-2007, 07:58 AM

So, uh, basically you're saying that you've never read comics???
:D

Not since about 1992. I picked back up about 3 months ago so I got alot of catching up to do.

humphrey-lee

03-08-2007, 08:03 AM

Not since about 1992. I picked back up about 3 months ago so I got alot of catching up to do.

Heh. It happens. I quit for about four years, and when I got back into them, I didn't realize how many good books were actually going on when I quit in the first place. Now I'm at, uh 450 some TPB and Graphic Novels and still have a bit of "classic" runs to catch up on.

Good luck with all that.