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jimski
03-07-2007, 04:06 PM
They're at it again. As is probably alluded to in a thread below, something big is on the horizon at Marvel this week, and at the risk of breaking the Revision3rules against profanity, the mother******* *********** at the ******* AP ************* ruined another ******* comic's ending for me.

Where were you on this one, Rich Johnston?

Of course, I called the spoiler ten months ago. But STILL.

You understand, the comic shop doesn't open until 11:00. They've spoiled something that it is not physically possible for me to have seen yet. Imagine Reuters spoiling the ending of Spider-Man 3 in a headline the day before it comes out, or saying who dies on Lost on a Tuesday morning. Effing RIDICULOUS. GRRRRRRRR.

fred
03-07-2007, 04:06 PM
poor Spider-Man

jaflanagan
03-07-2007, 04:08 PM
Reuters doesn't have to ruin Spider-Man. The trailer shows the whole plot, and about half the movie is up on NBC.com in HD.

conorkilpatrick
03-07-2007, 04:10 PM
Josh and I were both spoiled by a coworker.

And we were NOT HAPPY.

fred
03-07-2007, 04:10 PM
I was misdirecting

If I said poor ******* ******* I would've spoiled it myself

fred
03-07-2007, 04:11 PM
Josh and I were both spoiled by a coworker.

And we were NOT HAPPY.

I've been trying to be spoiled. I've been trying to get preview copies from my local shops. Marvel did not send out preview copies.

I spoiled it for 2 cbgs

whoops

deezer
03-07-2007, 04:21 PM
I can't believe that I'm actually asking this, but since I don't read Spiderman (and that seems to be who this is about) what's happening?

jerome
03-07-2007, 04:22 PM
I can't believe that I'm actually asking this, but since I don't read Spiderman (and that seems to be who this is about) what's happening?

I envy you.

fred
03-07-2007, 04:22 PM
it's not about Spider-man it's about someone else (http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/CapAmerica/DDream/Cap25.html)

even newsarama is in the spoiler business now (http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/CapAmerica/DDream/Cap25.html)

I AM OFF TO GET MY BOOKS

conorkilpatrick
03-07-2007, 04:23 PM
Any spoilers posted in this thread are going to be Xed out.

iSteve
03-07-2007, 04:24 PM
I can't believe that I'm actually asking this, but since I don't read Spiderman (and that seems to be who this is about) what's happening?

If you really must know (are you sure you want to?), then see the thread about spoiler for Capt. America #25. Hint - the spoiler is not about Spider-Man.

k33k3r
03-07-2007, 04:31 PM
That's rediculous and I can't believe they did that.
I know people have been waiting for this book but we want it to read it not to just see what the spoilers already told us.

BOO!!!

deezer
03-07-2007, 04:51 PM
ah... that. I didn't read it in the paper, but I went to the Marvel website and it had it front and center, which confuses me (aren't comic websites supposed to not like spoilers?)

jimski
03-07-2007, 04:52 PM
I mean... I did everything right. I saw thread titles that seemed to pertain to spoilers; I avoided those threads. People were discussing this week's books; I didn't view those discussions. Then, I get to work and go, "Hm hm hmm, I wonder what's going on in Darfur today? What shenanigans is that Hillary Clinton up to this tiiiiiiiMY EYES!!! AUGH, MY SPOILED, SPOILED EYES!!! I CAN NEVER UN-KNOW THAT!!"

I mean, goddammit.

(Of course, the elephant in the room is that all this only happened because the very publishers of the story put out a mother-humping press release about it.)

conorkilpatrick
03-07-2007, 04:53 PM
ah... that. I didn't read it in the paper, but I went to the Marvel website and it had it front and center, which confuses me (aren't comic websites supposed to not like spoilers?)

Not if Marvel is releasing all of this stuff to the mainstream press and giving interviews about it. They are promoting the hell out of it.

conorkilpatrick
03-07-2007, 05:00 PM
I mean... I did everything right. I saw thread titles that seemed to pertain to spoilers; I avoided those threads. People were discussing this week's books; I didn't view those discussions. Then, I get to work and go, "Hm hm hmm, I wonder what's going on in Darfur today? What shenanigans is that Hillary Clinton up to this tiiiiiiiMY EYES!!! AUGH, MY SPOILED, SPOILED EYES!!! I CAN NEVER UN-KNOW THAT!!"

I mean, goddammit.)

I walked into work and one of my coworkers (who is a fringe comic book reader) walked right up to my desk and said "So they ****** ******* *******, huh?" and I literally put my head down on my desk and screamed internally.

Twenty minutes later he did the same thing to Josh, leading to this IM exchange:

Josh says:
****ing **** and the ******* ******* thing
Conor says:
yeah, he walked right in and blurted it out
Conor says:
i was like "thanks", i haven't read anything yet
Josh says:
and then he did it to me
Conor says:
did you explain to him that that is a transgression that is punishable by death?

And then I heard Josh explain just that.

jerome
03-07-2007, 05:07 PM
Not if Marvel is releasing all of this stuff to the mainstream press and giving interviews about it. They are promoting the hell out of it.

The thing is, you know they could wait like a day or two, when most of the people who actually care have read it, and still get the same amount of publicity.

conorkilpatrick
03-07-2007, 05:08 PM
The thing is, you know they could wait like a day or two, when most of the people who actually care have read it, and still get the same amount of publicity.

That would be bad business sense.

k33k3r
03-07-2007, 05:13 PM
They are hoping to pull more people that quit reading comics or don't read them at all with the shock value of this. The "I need to go buy this and see what everyone is talking about idea" They are also hoping this will cause more people to go back and buy more CW stuff to find out why this happened.

I'm call shananagans on this one.
SHANANAGANS MARVEL SHANANAGANS!!!

kwok_talk
03-07-2007, 05:17 PM
I’m not sure if non-comic readers would go back to read CW because of this. If I was a non-reader, I’d find it cool to know, but wouldn’t necessarily go out and buy the issue or backstory as a result.

I guess the previous precedent would be Spiderman unmasking in CW #2. Did that necessarily increase the sales of the first issue? Someone whip out the financial data!

jgg0610
03-07-2007, 06:03 PM
I've managed to avoid spoilers so far. It sounds like this pertains to Captain America, which I don't normally read. I'm assuming I should this week?

fred
03-07-2007, 06:04 PM
everyone should read this issue regardless of whether you read it or not

jgg0610
03-07-2007, 06:05 PM
everyone should read this issue regardless of whether you read it or not
Thanks for the info. I'd been holding off and planning on reading it in trade, but I'll go ahead and pick up this issue.

fred
03-07-2007, 06:07 PM
glad to help. I think it's one of the best single issues I've ever read

mikegraham6
03-07-2007, 06:10 PM
glad to help. I think it's one of the best single issues I've ever read

so far its my POW! i threw it down in a holy shit moment, and that doesn't happen to often for me

fred
03-07-2007, 06:10 PM
picking will be simple for me this week
almost anti-climactic

mikegraham6
03-07-2007, 06:13 PM
picking will be simple for me this week
almost anti-climactic

regardless of the story, it was still a great book. the action was great, and anything with the winter soldier gets my vote, he's an amazing character

deezer
03-07-2007, 06:19 PM
haven't read it yet, but just thought this was interesting:
after hearing about the spoilers in newspapers, I looked through the three papers my parents get in the mornin' (New York Times, Boston Globe, and Wall Street Journal) and there was nothing pertaining to comics, which surprised me since all three covered Civil War when it first came out and (I'm pretty sure) covered the death of superman. Can't wait for the issue though (I'm getting my comics in a coupla hours)

jimski
03-07-2007, 06:34 PM
I'll say this for the press-releasin', spoilin' mother hubbards:

I got to my comics shop ten minutes after it opened today, and I literally could not get to the rack because there were so many dudes in the store. And I mean, that has never happened to me before. Not when Spidey unmasked, not when we all voted to kill Robin that time, never. It was a line of unwashed men.

Moreover-- and this also never happens at my shop-- both of the store's phone lines were ringing the entire time I was there, and every single time Mike the manager picked up the phone, he said, "Okay. I'll set one aside for you, but hurry.... Hello? Okay, I'll add it to your file. You don't already have Captain America on your pull list? Okay. This issue. Will do," and so on.

k33k3r
03-07-2007, 06:38 PM
As I said before. Marvel wanted to cause a mass chaos about this.
I expect most stores to be sold out of this issue.

ekval
03-07-2007, 06:41 PM
It was on the front page of MSN today too...avoiding it is nigh on impossible...

xyzzy
03-07-2007, 06:47 PM
I'll say this for the press-releasin', spoilin' mother hubbards:

I got to my comics shop ten minutes after it opened today, and I literally could not get to the rack because there were so many dudes in the store. And I mean, that has never happened to me before. Not when Spidey unmasked, not when we all voted to kill Robin that time, never. It was a line of unwashed men.

Moreover-- and this also never happens at my shop-- both of the store's phone lines were ringing the entire time I was there, and every single time Mike the manager picked up the phone, he said, "Okay. I'll set one aside for you, but hurry.... Hello? Okay, I'll add it to your file. You don't already have Captain America on your pull list? Okay. This issue. Will do," and so on.


This is really exactly the kind of publicity that I think pubishers should be going after to broaden the comic book audence. Why not hit up general distribution newspapers? Why not go on the Colbert Report? Don't just go to Newsarama.

I mean, yeah, it's annoying with all of the spoilers. And I think that it wouldn't kill them to wait until late Wednesday to break the story, but maybe then it wouldn't get as much press. I don't know.

mikegraham6
03-07-2007, 07:13 PM
you know, as much as we complain about the spoilers, this is great publicity for the industry in general. say you grew up with cap and saw this in the news, you'd go out and pick up the book, and what a great book to get people hooked on the medium, a friggin' brubaker cap book! one of the best books marvel puts out!

when i went into my LCS i had no idea what was gonig on with the issue, i didn't know it was on the news, i was just picking up my books. when i got in there, the owners were discussing how they are going to have to order a bunch more issues because demand was going to be huge, and they said something big happened and that it "was for real" (i just firgured the punisher took over for him). so i knew something big was going to happen but i didn't know what (i'd avoided the spoiler thread for the past week as well). i was going to read cap first anyway but i didn't have THAT big of an expectation for it before hand so when i got home dont think i had been this excited to read a book in a long time. what a good feeling.

fred
03-07-2007, 07:29 PM
You know what the test is though: HOW GOOD IS THE BOOK? The spoilers don't matter. I've already read it twice and I found it just as moving and profound the second time as I did the first. It's that good. Sometimes something is so special that you have to get it into people's hands. You have to get the word out to accomplish this.

horatio616
03-07-2007, 07:50 PM
Hmm, after the Foggy thing I'm kinda skeptical...

and the Superman thing...

and the Jason Todd thing...

and the Bucky thing...

This is just temporary. Don't believe the hype!

Maybe this is Earth 2 Cap.

jo-relrollins
03-07-2007, 08:23 PM
Okay,today i have been avoiding the threads,for once, but now i'm hott. You can't go anywhere without hearing about "it". I can honestly i understand the profoundness. I mean *** is one the most recognizable characters(along with SpiderMan,Wolverine,Batman,Fantastic Four, etc). So i undertand the press and stuff. But thi is getting more publicity then the whole "unmasking thing". Hopefully this one does a Jean Grey and sticks for awhile. (Granted i think the X event this summer might bring her back). Hopefully ppl see the greatness and the goodness behind comics.

luthor
03-07-2007, 09:15 PM
Just got home from work and someone on The Canadian Weather Network was talking about it. This is everywhere. I have to admit, I'm surprised.

fred
03-07-2007, 09:18 PM
Just got home from work and someone on The Canadian Weather Network was talking about it. This is everywhere. I have to admit, I'm surprised.

That's funny for 2 reasons.
The obvious one is that people are talking about it on the Canadian Weather Network.
The second is that there is a Canadian Weather Network. Today's forecast calls for snow followed by snow tomorrow. Friday we'll have snow and some more on Saturday.

xyzzy
03-07-2007, 09:23 PM
That's funny for 2 reasons.
The obvious one is that people are talking about it on the Canadian Weather Network.
The second is that there is a Canadian Weather Network. Today's forecast calls for snow followed by snow tomorrow. Friday we'll have snow and some more on Saturday.


The third reason that it's funny is that he watches the Canadian Weather Network.

fred
03-07-2007, 09:42 PM
hmmm, will there be snow or snow today?
am I going to need a jacket?
I wonder if it'll be windy

deezer
03-07-2007, 09:46 PM
so I just finished reading Cap a little while ago and... wow. It was REALLY good, like better than I'd expected good. I may have just added another monthly to my stack (and I was really liking my system as it is now... drat it all!) And, after all this, I really didn't mind the spoilers that much

conorkilpatrick
03-07-2007, 09:52 PM
There's a thread for talking about the content (http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4433) of Captain America #25, this one's for the press hype.

kwok_talk
03-07-2007, 09:54 PM
There's a thread for talking about the content (http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4433) of Captain America #25, this one's for the press hype.

And the Canadian Weather Channel

luthor
03-07-2007, 09:57 PM
Guys look at a map...I live in Southern Ontario, which is south of more then a few states. I drive up to go to Michigan.

As for watching the Weather Network...I have no excuse. I hang my head in shame....

fred
03-07-2007, 10:01 PM
it's the Great White North man, I make the same jokes about Michigan and the Dakotas

here in upstate NY, not much better - I watch nearly no weather reports

mikegraham6
03-07-2007, 10:05 PM
Guys look at a map...I live in Southern Ontario, which is south of more then a few states. I drive up to go to Michigan.

As for watching the Weather Network...I have no excuse. I hang my head in shame....

DUDE! you need to know just HOW many layers to wear to keep you warm, i watch the weather network (or i pop my head out the window):D

i do think its hilarious that they mentioned it on the weather network though, how did it come up?
"How cold is it today, Bill?"
"As cold as Captain America's body, Mary."

rice-a-roni
03-07-2007, 10:06 PM
Curse You Cnn.com

luthor
03-07-2007, 10:08 PM
it's the Great White North man, I make the same jokes about Michigan and the Dakotas

here in upstate NY, not much better - I watch nearly no weather reports

You're North of me dude...just saying:D

fred
03-07-2007, 10:10 PM
DUDE! you need to know just HOW many layers to wear to keep you warm, i watch the weather network (or i pop my head out the window):D

i do think its hilarious that they mentioned it on the weather network though, how did it come up?
"How cold is it today, Bill?"
"As cold as Captain America's body, Mary."

Dude, bad form. It's Captain America man.

mikegraham6
03-07-2007, 10:13 PM
Dude, bad form. It's Captain America man.

i apologise <hangs head in shame>:(

luthor
03-07-2007, 10:14 PM
DUDE! you need to know just HOW many layers to wear to keep you warm, i watch the weather network (or i pop my head out the window):D

i do think its hilarious that they mentioned it on the weather network though, how did it come up?
"How cold is it today, Bill?"
"As cold as Captain America's body, Mary."

They did the quarter hour introduction and then said the date, followed by "The day Captain America died" and then made a comment about it...then talked about an Alberta Clipper or something.

mikegraham6
03-07-2007, 10:20 PM
i find it funny how in any other media there would be a huge uproar about spoilers, no one ever ruins movies and if a tv show is leaked its an enormous deal, but for comics, even the weather network can ruin a book and since its only a comic book, no one bats an eye, it doesn't seem fair to us.....:(

labor_days
03-07-2007, 10:23 PM
i do think its hilarious that they mentioned it on the weather network though, how did it come up?
"How cold is it today, Bill?"
"As cold as Captain America's body, Mary."Too soon. Just...too soon.

xyzzy
03-07-2007, 10:25 PM
i apologise <hangs head in shame>:(

I laughed.

mikegraham6
03-07-2007, 10:47 PM
I laughed.

im glad someone did, i mean really guys, he WILL be back....:rolleyes:

k-dizzle
03-07-2007, 11:26 PM
When Superman was killed (by Doomsday) there was a TIME magazine article about it a few days before the issue was released. In five to ten years from now Marvel will Kill wolverine.

pv_2
03-08-2007, 12:11 AM
Just a quick thanks to Jimski for posting this thread - once I saw the title I went on media blackout and was able to maintain the element of surprise. Sorry it was ruined for some of the others, I understand your rage.

deezer
03-08-2007, 12:12 AM
so it wasn't in the paper this morning, but it had to happen eventually. I'm secretly convinced that the staff of the boston globe are a bunch of comic-book readers

http://www.boston.com/yourlife/articles/2007/03/07/a_hero_dies/

conorkilpatrick
03-08-2007, 12:17 AM
If I hadn't been spoiled already, surely my daily paper would have done it had I bought it on my way into work like I usually do (but didn't today for some reason):

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/story/503132p-424376c.html

This was on the page you saw immediately upon opening the paper.

jerome
03-08-2007, 01:12 AM
i find it funny how in any other media there would be a huge uproar about spoilers, no one ever ruins movies and if a tv show is leaked its an enormous deal, but for comics, even the weather network can ruin a book and since its only a comic book, no one bats an eye, it doesn't seem fair to us.....:(


This is probably because in other forms of media the creators don't want to give away the ending to their stories. JK Rowling doesn't go around pimping the end to Harry Potter and Damen Lindelof doesnt give away the ending to Lost (if he knows) for headlines. Marvel does because they feel they need the publicity. And they're probably right.

xyzzy
03-08-2007, 01:18 AM
This is probably because in other forms of media the creators don't want to give away the ending to their stories. JK Rowling doesn't go around pimping the end to Harry Potter and Damen Lindelof doesnt give away the ending to Lost (if he knows) for headlines. Marvel does because they feel they need the publicity. And they're probably right.

To be fair, this isn't the ending of a story, it's the beginning. And people from all sorts of media ruin the beginings (and middles) of their stories all the time.

jerome
03-08-2007, 01:24 AM
To be fair, this isn't the ending of a story, it's the beginning. And people from all sorts of media ruin the beginings (and middles) of their stories all the time.

Good point. While the cover says "Epilogue", it is part one of a story. Still, comic companies are much more likely to give any part of their story, beginning, middle, or end, for some ink. And that's because they need it more than other forms of media.

xyzzy
03-08-2007, 01:28 AM
Good point. While the cover says "Epilogue", it is part one of a story. Still, comic companies are much more likely to give any part of their story, beginning, middle, or end, for some ink. And that's because they need it more than other forms of media.

I'm not sure about that. I mean, sure, I notice more because I follow comics news. But I'm sure that if I was a movie buff, read Variety and all of the movie gossip rags, there would be lots of spoilers for upcoming pictures there, as well.

jo-relrollins
03-08-2007, 01:29 AM
If I hadn't been spoiled already, surely my daily paper would have done it had I bought it on my way into work like I usually do (but didn't today for some reason):

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/story/503132p-424376c.html

This was on the page you saw immediately upon opening the paper.

Is it just me or did they do an Obit. at the bottom of the webpage,thats crazy.

drwally
03-08-2007, 03:47 PM
Boy, this really IS the day to be the guy who can't get access to what comes out weekly, and be reading trades of stuff that's already been out for a year or more. I just read Batman and the Monstermen, not a spoiler anywhere, and it totally made me fell HIGH as a kite, kick ass old school.

AND even in far flung Tokyo, my best friend calls today, the guy who doesn't have a TV, or a radio, and only goes online at work, thinks the whole comics thing is strange (gays, straights, nonfanboys are all alike), and he says:

"Guess what! Captain America is DEAD! Did you hear??!" This guy will never read a comic in his life unless I buy him a copy of Uncle Scrooge, and pay him to read it (and he would absolutely love Uncle Scrooge).

Me: "Yeah. Whatever." I quoted him a few lines from Conor's P.O.W. article, and he thought Conor's take on all the media buzz and how The Return is inevitable was pretty funny.

iSteve
03-08-2007, 05:22 PM
I have to admit that I was surprised when I saw that even the New York Times covered Cap's death - not as a spoiler - they waited until today, Thursday.

iSteve
03-08-2007, 10:39 PM
Newsarama reports:

"And while it may seem as if everyone with an opinion on the matter has weighed in, and tonight on Comedy Central’s The Colbert Report, Stephen Colbert, the most patriotic man in America, perhaps the universe, will feature the death of Captain America in his “THE WØRD” segment. The Colbert Report airs at 11:30 pm, following The Daily Show on Comedy Central. “THE WØRD” is usually uploaded to the show’s website."

fred
03-08-2007, 10:54 PM
I was looking at the Colbert article when I clicked on one of the links to another story. This, I had to pass on. I didn't want to link to it because I didn't want to give this retard any more traffic.

THIS IS COPIED FROM A CRACKPOT AND NOT MY OPINION

Please to enjoy:

************BEGIN***************

Captain America, The Death Of A Republic
March 08, 2007 01:00 PM EST



Growing up in Southern New Jersey one of my favorite pastimes was reading Marvel Comics. Spiderman was the best but I read them all. The Fantastic Four, Daredevil, Sub Mariner, Dr. Strange, The Avengers, Iron Man, The X-Men and, of course, Captain America were the stuff of fantasy and pleasure. I dare to admit that my love of reading was born in the pages of Marvel Comics.
Now I read where Captain America has been killed by a “sniper’s bullet”.
My first thought was “How appropriate!” In a nation that has been hijacked by liberalism and is being slowly destroyed by democrat-ick socialism, it is probably importantly symbolic that with the destruction of the Christian Bible and the traditional holidays recognizing the blessings of God; with the elimination of a Constitution that requires strict interpretation and constructionist action to actually work the way the Founders intended; with the spreading of the liberal religions of Darwinism and Global Warming-ism and with the spreading of immorality through the acceptance of atheism and the homosexual agenda, that Captain America be struck down from a hidden threat on the steps of a court house.
The national court system has released child predators and is fighting for the “rights” of foreign enemies of America to address American courts to request protection for their murderous activities. It is the nation’s courts that have been writing law for the land for too long now. Millions of children are killed by the courts annually through abortion and the release of known sex offenders. Millions more are released after DUI convictions; being allowed to retain driver licenses and keys to their cars. Murderers are routinely given probation and lawyers fight to get the sentences of known and convicted killers overturned. The national court system is broken and there are no fixes in sight.
Captain America had been killed. The symbolism of this cannot escape anyone who holds any value for America.
In a short note I saw tucked into a corner of the back page of my local newspaper I read this: “State Supreme Court Justice Nicholas Figueroa’s ruling denied the Port Authority’s motion to vacate the verdict, which found the agency 68 percent liable and the Islamic extremists who carried out the attack 32 percent liable.”
Frankly, Judge Figueroa is a stupid crackpot.
The national justice system is full of crackpots like Judge Figueroa. This strange individual ruled to uphold a negligence lawsuit filed in the 1993 World Trade Center Bombing that “killed six people and injured 1000”. He found the Port Authority of New York 68 percent at fault for an attack 19 radical Islamic Muslim invaders who never worked for the Port Authority conducted.
The truth is that the radical Islamic community is 100 percent at fault and therefore 100 percent liable for the attack, the deaths and the injuries.
Any judge that sets himself up as Solomon and declares dividing the baby is the best course of action and then allows the division is a first-class abortionist that should be applying to the AMA for a change of venue.
Captain America is dead! Judge Figueroa, yeah, he’s alive! Go figure!

**************END********************************* *

I have not the words

xyzzy
03-08-2007, 10:57 PM
I have not the words

That person has an inherently flawed understanding of the law in general and the Constitution in specific.

kwok_talk
03-08-2007, 10:58 PM
Uh…yikes. Weird.

fred
03-08-2007, 10:59 PM
Each time that I've tried to craft some type of dissection on even the smallest section I've gotten flustered and annoyed. Have to keep reminding myself about arguing with fools.

xyzzy
03-08-2007, 11:03 PM
Each time that I've tried to craft some type of dissection on even the smallest section I've gotten flustered and annoyed. Have to keep reminding myself about arguing with fools.

I was going to, but there was just too much wrong with it, so I went with a broad stroke.

fred
03-08-2007, 11:05 PM
good idea. I'm doing the same because I have a busy night of having gay sex with al queda while I worship darwinism ahead of me.

mikegraham6
03-09-2007, 12:16 AM
I was looking at the Colbert article when I clicked on one of the links to another story. This, I had to pass on. I didn't want to link to it because I didn't want to give this retard any more traffic.

THIS IS COPIED FROM A CRACKPOT AND NOT MY OPINION

Please to enjoy:

************BEGIN***************

Captain America, The Death Of A Republic
March 08, 2007 01:00 PM EST



Growing up in Southern New Jersey one of my favorite pastimes was reading Marvel Comics. Spiderman was the best but I read them all. The Fantastic Four, Daredevil, Sub Mariner, Dr. Strange, The Avengers, Iron Man, The X-Men and, of course, Captain America were the stuff of fantasy and pleasure. I dare to admit that my love of reading was born in the pages of Marvel Comics.
Now I read where Captain America has been killed by a “sniper’s bullet”.
My first thought was “How appropriate!” In a nation that has been hijacked by liberalism and is being slowly destroyed by democrat-ick socialism, it is probably importantly symbolic that with the destruction of the Christian Bible and the traditional holidays recognizing the blessings of God; with the elimination of a Constitution that requires strict interpretation and constructionist action to actually work the way the Founders intended; with the spreading of the liberal religions of Darwinism and Global Warming-ism and with the spreading of immorality through the acceptance of atheism and the homosexual agenda, that Captain America be struck down from a hidden threat on the steps of a court house.
The national court system has released child predators and is fighting for the “rights” of foreign enemies of America to address American courts to request protection for their murderous activities. It is the nation’s courts that have been writing law for the land for too long now. Millions of children are killed by the courts annually through abortion and the release of known sex offenders. Millions more are released after DUI convictions; being allowed to retain driver licenses and keys to their cars. Murderers are routinely given probation and lawyers fight to get the sentences of known and convicted killers overturned. The national court system is broken and there are no fixes in sight.
Captain America had been killed. The symbolism of this cannot escape anyone who holds any value for America.
In a short note I saw tucked into a corner of the back page of my local newspaper I read this: “State Supreme Court Justice Nicholas Figueroa’s ruling denied the Port Authority’s motion to vacate the verdict, which found the agency 68 percent liable and the Islamic extremists who carried out the attack 32 percent liable.”
Frankly, Judge Figueroa is a stupid crackpot.
The national justice system is full of crackpots like Judge Figueroa. This strange individual ruled to uphold a negligence lawsuit filed in the 1993 World Trade Center Bombing that “killed six people and injured 1000”. He found the Port Authority of New York 68 percent at fault for an attack 19 radical Islamic Muslim invaders who never worked for the Port Authority conducted.
The truth is that the radical Islamic community is 100 percent at fault and therefore 100 percent liable for the attack, the deaths and the injuries.
Any judge that sets himself up as Solomon and declares dividing the baby is the best course of action and then allows the division is a first-class abortionist that should be applying to the AMA for a change of venue.
Captain America is dead! Judge Figueroa, yeah, he’s alive! Go figure!

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I have not the words

Its people like these that make me glad that I live in Canada, i dont know how you guys can deal with it...:rolleyes:

fred
03-09-2007, 12:20 AM
Its people like these that make me glad that I live in Canada, i dont know how you guys can deal with it...:rolleyes:

Usually I smoke crack with a welfare mother and the shame goes away

kwok_talk
03-09-2007, 12:27 AM
Usually I smoke crack with a welfare mother and the shame goes away

I spend my time with cat-killing murderer/rapists that hate comic book fanboys.

fred
03-09-2007, 12:34 AM
and we're back
thanks kwok

kwok_talk
03-09-2007, 03:08 AM
and we're back
thanks kwok

some people call it having nothing original to say so they just repeat old things. I call it the art of sampling (from the diddy school of music)

fred
03-09-2007, 03:38 AM
I enjoy coming full circle

k33k3r
03-09-2007, 03:04 PM
Usually I smoke crack with a welfare mother and the shame goes away

I'm a cutter. It makes me feel better....

That rant was um... wow.... nough said

fred
03-09-2007, 07:17 PM
so...much...pressure....under...my...skin

jimski
05-14-2007, 07:49 PM
J.K. Rowling is warning you muggles to keep your mouths shut. I wonder whether or not her pleas will fall on deaf ears, given the comics stuff I've had ruined for me in the last twelve months or so by the papers.

"We're a little under three months away, now, and the first distant rumblings of the weirdness that usually precedes a Harry Potter publication can be heard on the horizon," Rowling wrote on her Web site Monday.

"I want the readers who have, in many instances, grown up with Harry, to embark on the last adventure they will share with him without knowing where they are they going."

The author's comments came in response to an April 28 editorial by a leading Potter fan site, http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org, which noted that it had been receiving "spoiler" e-mails — and expected many more — alleging advance knowledge of the book's contents.

"If Harry dies, we don't want to know about it until J.K. Rowling decides to tell us," Leaky Cauldron webmaster Melissa Anelli wrote. "And if you decide to tell us before that, you'll incur the wrath of a staff of almost 200, most of whom have been waiting almost 10 years for these final revelations and can NEVER get back the moment you rob by spoiling them.

"That's some wrath right there. We own pitchforks, hot wax and feathers. And we're not afraid to use them."

On Monday, Rowling seconded the fan site's plea.

"Some, perhaps, will read this and take the view that all publicity is good publicity, that spoilers are part of hype, and that I am trying to protect sales rather than my readership," Rowling wrote on http://www.jkrowling.com. "However, spoilers won't stop people buying the book, they never have - all it will do is diminish their pleasure in the book."

comhcinc
05-14-2007, 07:54 PM
"And if you decide to tell us before that, you'll incur the wrath of a staff of almost 200, most of whom have been waiting almost 10 years for these final revelations and can NEVER get back the moment you rob by spoiling them.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA losers.

paper
05-14-2007, 11:20 PM
They're losers because they're fans of a book series and don't want to be spoiled?

comhcinc
05-15-2007, 12:56 AM
no. they are losers because they are adults who are obsessed with a children's book series to a point that making such melodramatic statements like that. i mean all you got to do is not open the email. how are is that?

alexg
05-15-2007, 01:45 AM
Since we are all posting on a forum about comic books, it seems sort of weird to call anyone losers.

kwok_talk
05-15-2007, 01:50 AM
Since we are all posting on a forum about comic books, it seems sort of weird to call anyone losers.

Haha. Even more so when I look at my post count.:D

fred
05-15-2007, 01:50 AM
I agree
(as long as we can still call the Magic people losers)

paper
05-15-2007, 02:16 AM
I see nothing wrong with running a website for a series of kids books. And to ask them not to open their email is kind of ridiculous. I'd imagine it's a legit job for many of them, so it's like asking you to avoid your work email.

Sorry, but it really gets me riled when people belittle children's and YA writing. And especially from a community of comics readers, who should understand what it means to be a fan of a much-criticized genre. Not every reader of Harry Potter is a broom-riding, spell chanting lunatic, just as not every comic reader wears a Captain America costume with a burrito in the waistband.

acomicbookgirl
05-15-2007, 02:25 AM
Haha. Even more so when I look at my post count.:D

Agree... :Looking at post count, after a coughing attack:

fred
05-15-2007, 02:33 AM
just as not every comic reader wears a Captain America costume with a burrito in the waistband.

although I'd like to state for the record that I do

alexg
05-15-2007, 02:49 AM
I carry a burrito with my costume, but I don't carry it in my waistband.

kahunablair
05-15-2007, 03:16 AM
I don't wear a costume, or any clothes at all for that matter, but I still carry a burrito at all times....
I just won't say where I keep it.

comhcinc
05-15-2007, 03:33 AM
Sorry, but it really gets me riled when people belittle children's and YA writing. And especially from a community of comics readers, who should understand what it means to be a fan of a much-criticized genre. Not every reader of Harry Potter is a broom-riding, spell chanting lunatic, just as not every comic reader wears a Captain America costume with a burrito in the waistband.

i wasn't belittling the writing i was belittling the broom-riding, spell chanting lunatic that wrote that press release. i have stated before that i have no problem with someone enjoying a book/tv/movie series from their childhood but when people make comments like"And if you decide to tell us before that, you'll incur the wrath of a staff of almost 200, most of whom have been waiting almost 10 years for these final revelations and can NEVER get back the moment you rob by spoiling them." you understand the critic's point of view. to me this is worst than the burrito because this is "a leading Harry Potter" site. Speaking of which.........

I see nothing wrong with running a website for a series of kids books. And to ask them not to open their email is kind of ridiculous. I'd imagine it's a legit job for many of them, so it's like asking you to avoid your work email. i agree there is nothing wrong with running such a website, through i am surpised that said site employs "almost 200" people. i work for a DoD contractor and that is about the number we have. Anyway if your site is all things harry potter you should realize that you are expected to knew things that the general public doesn't. just as the people at newsarama knows things about comic books that the rest of us don't. if you are going to make it your business then you should be prepared to make it your business.

jaflanagan
05-15-2007, 05:15 AM
I've read very few books more engaging and compulsively page turning than these "kids books."

But I think this is very much a glass house scenario, and geek heirarchy is about as hypocritical as you can get.

Except those trekkie weirdos.

paper
05-15-2007, 12:18 PM
I don't think the quote is at all flamboyant or suggestive of their being the crazy fans. I did some looking around on their site, and it looks like the 200 number is coming from their "community" of designers and news gatherers. So..in a way, it's sort of like what we do here on the forums. We bring up stories about comics, sometimes as if we were posting news on a website where we are all contributors. They don't have to know things in advance to comment on them. Does iFanboy need advance copies of comics to comment on them? No. And in fact, they avoid spoilers from what I have seen.

But the quote isn't really all that odd. If someone emailed me and told me everything that was going to happen in say, Countdown for the next year, I'd be pretty pissed too (and that's hardly a comparison because they have been reading the books for 10 years). Calling it 'wrath' is tongue in cheek, and I don't see anything in that quote that would lead me to believe it was more than that.

God forbid anybody be passionate about something that we don't share an interest in. All the fun they're having could really do some damage.

fred
05-15-2007, 12:26 PM
Except those trekkie weirdos.

and the magic assholes

paper
05-15-2007, 12:36 PM
Honestly, I don't know if I could like anybody who owns seasons of "Charmed" on DVD.

acomicbookgirl
05-15-2007, 01:44 PM
Honestly, I don't know if I could like anybody who owns seasons of "Charmed" on DVD.

I do. I have no issues with them..

paper
05-15-2007, 02:08 PM
And I have officially learned my lesson.

acomicbookgirl
05-15-2007, 02:13 PM
And I have officially learned my lesson.

How so? I have friends who have them. I have no qualms about it. I ocassionally watch reruns on tv.

jimski
05-15-2007, 03:53 PM
My wife used to watch Charmed. In fact, if there was ever a show on the WB that made you go, "My God, this show is still on?" my wife has it on the Tivo.

Yes, even Reba.

Seventh Heaven, she actually gave up on. I don't know what it takes for a show like that to jump the shark, a show that is born on water skis.

Anyway: I won't be able to say whether the Harry Potter books are good or not until I find out what the deal is with Snape. If he turns out to have been a genuine villain all along, Rowling is one of history's worst criminals.

cam-
05-15-2007, 04:00 PM
Except those trekkie weirdos.

HAH!

Man I was so afraid to check out this thread, but it's about Cap from way back, what a relief, nothing spoiled. That's what I get for not reading dates.