View Full Version : Fred's This Week in Comics for 3/7/2007
This was a good week for comics. My POW, as if there were any real choice, was Captain America #25. It was excellent in a way that few books ever are.
Let’s get into it:
Marvel
Marvel had the book of the week. They were also the publisher of the week with an average grade of slightly higher than a B.
Captain America #25 - I'll let you guys in on a little secret: I'm a real person. I get happy and sad. I have good days and bad. Many of my reviews and comments are loud and blustery and most of it's for my desired effect: that it be amusing in some way.
Sometimes I even read something and become profoundly affected by it. Captain America #25 is one of those books. It's also a book that I'll probably always remember in the way that many of you remember issues that touched, inspired, or amused you. This was the first superhero comic that ever made me cry. I wept bitterly and openly throughout the entire issue. It was amazing.
Ed Brubaker has proven once again that he should be, nay I say must be, the man to write the most important stories that Marvel has to tell. The way in which he told this story was astonishingly good. He used multiple viewpoints and narrative styles to tell the story. It began in flashbacks, and also used them throughout, to tell the story of who Captain America was. He talked about what he stood for, fought for, and meant to us. He also talked about what he meant to Falcon, Bucky, and Sharon Carter. He tore my heart out and he did it so well that, if he were here, I'd thank him for it.
His death at the hands of the Red Skull would've been enough. The use of Sharon Carter to kill him was heart-wrenching. I've never felt worse for a character than when they finally gave her the word and she remembered it. It was classic Red Skull. It was perfectly ****ed up and sadistic. I don't even know what else to say. These reviews generally run more than 2000 words and I'm almost certain I could do that on Cap alone today. I'm going to leave it here, knowing that we'll probably be talking about this for weeks around here.
Epting's art was fantastic.
A+ and Pick of the Week
Civil War The Initiative - I had mixed feelings on this. I enjoyed it. It set some things up for the future. I liked the Omega Flight setup. The art was a little touchy in spots. B-
The Mighty Avengers #1 - Wow. This was really great. I had low expectations going in. I was really only buying it because it was Bendis and Cho doing the Avengers. I didn't actually care about the team. I was REALLY wrong about the team. They are awesome and fascinating.
The story was really fun. It combined the team-picking issue that every team book has with the beginning of a huge protracted battle against the Mole Man. I always love a good team-picking book (when it lasts less than 6 issues - looking at you Meltzer). I do not traditionally love a big fight book. I don't give a shit about the Mole Man. I don't know what it is. I just prefer interaction more. BUT, it works here. I liked it a lot.
The art and coloring were awesome. I love Frank Cho. I know that he's being replaced for 4 issues or so by Angel Medina later this year. I already miss him and he hasn't gone yet. I'm glad that he will be the regular artist of sorts. B+
Fantastic Four #543 - There is a lot to talk about on this one. This issue has 3 stories. I'll be grading on the first one.
The first story marks the debut of Dwayne McDuffie and Mike McKone. It was a good story that announced that Reed and Sue were taking a break and would be replaced for a time by Black Panther and Storm. I enjoyed it. I have one nitpick though. Luke Cage is bald. I refuse to believe that McKone doesn't know that. It was lazy and stupid. Who's this Luke Cage guy? Dunno, give him a fade. B
The second story celebrated the 45th Anniversary of the FF. It was written by Stan Lee. It was OK. It was a bit more hammy and hokey than I'd care for but overall it was good. The art didn't work for me.
The third story was done by Paul Pope. It was nearly unreadable. It reminded me in plot and look of some bullshit Johnny Quest or Richie Rich cartoon from the '80s. **** that shit.
Dark Tower #2 - This was good. I like the story. I may actually go back and read the novels. I think that it's being really well done. Also, I think I'm adding the insult slumgullion to my vocabulary. That just kicks ass. The art in the book is fantastic. The pencils are great. The coloring is phenomenonal. I can't remember seeing better coloring ever. A
Ultimate Spider-Man #106 - Every time that I start to think that I've seen all the Ultimized versions of characters that will actually excite me Bendis whips out another. Enter Ultimate Jessica Jones. This was really good. In a slower week this would be much closer to the top. I like the prospects of the team up with Daredevil and also the new Kitty twist. Kitty Pryde has transferred to Peter's school. Much trouble and crying will ensue I'm sure. A-
Punisher MAX #45 - Each arc from Ennis to this point has been great. This is no exception. You can jump in at the beginning of any arc. This one began at #43 (I believe). B
The Incredible Hulk #104 - Who's easier to feel sorry for than Bruce Banner? The writers of the Hulk have done some really ****ed up things to him. Anyway in #104, the Hulk is happy and he's found somewhere to belong. He has a wife and a child on the way. These people have conditioned me so well that even before they show the explosion I expect something terrible to happen to him. It ended on a cliffhanger but I expect he'll have a few more reasons to be pissed when he comes back to Earth for World War Hulk in a few months. Expect destruction. This was really good. B+
Bullet Points #5 - Hot damn it's over. Those words make me so happy. JMS should feel like he's personally removing food from the mouths of handicapped children every time he cashes one of the checks he got for this book. The ending was as bad as could be expected. At the end, Galactus showed up and Earth made some Independence Day style defense of itself and was ultimately saved. It sucked hot feces through a straw. F
NewUniversal #4 - This was to be a make or break issue. I was ready to drop it. I actually liked this one though. I think I'm in for at least one more. Ellis has been intrigued enough for that at least. The art is fairly good too. B-
Criminal #5 - Ed Brubaker does it again. This issue was the conclusion to the initial arc, Coward. It was a great story. The second arc begins in May and I can't wait. Sean Phillips' art was cool as usual. A-
DC
DC had a rough week with an average in between C- and C.
SHAZAM & The Monster Society of Evil #2 - In many ways, this was very good. I'm really enjoying this story. The art is great. The character of Billy Batson is one that I really want to root for. I'm still shocked that I even care. Shazam has never been a favorite of mine.
My problem: Attorney General Sivana. The actions and words of this character are obvious, ham-handed political comments on the present time. My problem is that Smith is making political statements. It isn't what Smith is saying as I'd have the same problem if his commentary swung the other way.
Why is it a problem?
1. Tone shift - This is a fun book. It's not serious. The tone is light. It's very much a popcorn feel-good kind of book. The comments of the AG, and by extension the commentary of Smith, are shrill and not fun.
2. The Timelessness Thing - He's dated the book. One of the initial appeals of it was that it felt timeless. Smith is re-telling the origin of Billy Batson as Captain Marvel. He has set it in the present with his comments.
This mini has been great so far. I honestly would've probably given this issue a B+, but I have to take a full letter grade for the Sivana character. C+
JLA #6 - Whoohoo the Red Tornado is a ****ing robot again. Who cares? I mean other than Brad Meltzer, who's clearly in love with him, who cares? I'm so sick of the goddamn Red Tornado that I'll buy #7 but if he's too prominent in it I'll drop it. This book isn't good enough to keep me this irritated. D
Scalped #3 - This was good. It's developing into the story it will be. I like it more than I don't. The art however isn't very good. C-
Detective Comics #829 - First the review, then the entertaining part. OK, so Dini didn't do this issue and the issue is to be continued next month. Is he done with the book? I don't know and I haven't heard. Frankly I have far too many books today to look that or 'who is Stuart Moore and why does his name sound familiar' up. This was passable. I didn't hate it and I didn't love it. The art; I wasn't so into it.
Now for the cover: I kept looking at it and trying to convince myself that I was too good to make these jokes but well here we are:
2 Alternate Captions:
http://www.dccomics.com/media/covers/6923_400x600.jpg
1. This issue is called: Batman and the Boy Bukkake
2. I've seen this movie before but the version I saw had less young boys in it.
In the end, eh C+
I've gotta split this so it's continued below
Viper Comics
Viper earns the shit-bag publisher of the week honors with an F average. Way to go guys, I'm sure you'll change my mind in 5 months when the next one comes out.
Dead@17 #3 - I am so ready to say **** this Josh Howard asshole. Who cares? This book could be so good and has shown flashes of going that way but damn it this is the first issue to come out since October if I remember right. I couldn't even remember the main character's first name. On top of that, half the pages in the book were single panels or had no dialogue. Some were both. So after having five months to put together one issue he gives us half an issue. One more try and I'm out. F
K-Dizzle
03-08-2007, 03:31 AM
This issue is called: Batman and the Boy Bukkake ...........Ah the linguistics of internet porn.
Mikegraham6
03-08-2007, 03:34 AM
Fred, great review of Cap, it goes to show you really love the character and while i didn't have as strong a reaction as you, it was good to know that the story had such a immense impact on you. I was a very well written review and it really got across how much it meant to you.
it goes to explain your somber nature today and hopefully your period of mourning wont last too long, i miss the snarky, quick wit. the board's not the same with out man!
but i digress....
today's about Cap and all that i have left to say is:
Good Bless Captain America and may he rest in peace.....:(
This issue is called: Batman and the Boy Bukkake ...........Ah the linguistics of internet porn.
I showed it to my wife first to make sure that it wasn't just my own perversion, vast as it may be, and her reaction was something along the lines of what I was thinking so I went ahhh go for it.
and yes I do like alliteration
Labor_Days
03-08-2007, 03:37 AM
Fred, I basically agree with everything you have to say re: Cap #25, MA #1 & Punisher #45.
Obviously, I haven't read all my books yet but Cap #25 is going to be awfully hard to beat. Brubaker gets Captain America in a way I don't think anyone else really has of late. Actually have been re-reading his entire run on Cap and just can't believe the quality of this book.
So many amazing panels in Cap #25 alone;
-Bucky jumping off the roof
-Falcon descending onto Bucky
-The transition from WWII flashbacks to the reporter covering Cap's trial
-The final reveal as to who pulled the trigger
-The last page of the book
Masterful.
Fred, great review of Cap, it goes to show you really love the character and while i didn't have as strong a reaction as you, it was good to know that the story had such a immense impact on you. I was a very well written review and it really got across how much it meant to you.
it goes to explain your somber nature today and hopefully your period of mourning wont last too long, i miss the snarky, quick wit. the board's not the same with out man!
but i digress....
today's about Cap and all that i have left to say is:
Good Bless Captain America and may he rest in peace.....:(
thanks Mike. I appreciate it. Tomorrow, Sweathog Appreciation Week will return and I'm sure I'll be more like myself.
So many amazing panels in Cap #25 alone;
-Bucky jumping off the roof
-Falcon descending onto Bucky
-The transition from WWII flashbacks to the reporter covering Cap's trial
-The final reveal as to who pulled the trigger
-The last page of the book
Masterful.
Thanks. And you're so right about these panels. I actually got goose bumps and the hair on my arms stood up as I read the list.
Another one, and then I've got to start thinking about happy things again, is the one where Bucky talks about how Cap always treated him like an equal and that he knew he'd never be the man that he was.
Mikegraham6
03-08-2007, 03:49 AM
I just got to say what a great week in comics this has turned out to be, i was just checking out the reviews here on the board and the ones that just got posted on IGN and there are so many good books that came out.... and ive only had the chance to read 3 out of the 13 i bought! i can't wait to get home tonight and dive right into the other ones that i didn;t have quite the same anticipation for (of course im going to read Cap, Initiative and Mighty first!)
It was an awesome week for comics. Even though the checkout killed me: $159.70 American
Mikegraham6
03-08-2007, 03:53 AM
It was an awesome week for comics. Even though the checkout killed me: $159.70 American
YIKES!!! you must have gotten some trades??? mine was over $60 CND and thats way above average for just singles...
Jo-RelRollins
03-08-2007, 03:57 AM
Just wanna say I loved the ending to Mighty and the scene where Ares is confronted by Ms. Marvel and Iron Man.
17 monthlies
The Frank Miller Daredevil Omnibus Volume 1
The New Avengers Volume 5 Premier HC
The Ms. Marvel Volume 2 Premier HC
yikes indeed
Just wanna say I loved the ending to Mighty and the scene where Ares is confronted by Ms. Marvel and Iron Man.
that scene between Ares and MM and IM was great. I didn't really have much previous experience with Ares and I was like **** this Ares guy who cares? After that scene, I was like: I like this Ares guy. Who is he?
MastaP
03-08-2007, 04:01 AM
17 monthlies
The Frank Miller Daredevil Omnibus Volume 1
The New Avengers Volume 5 Premier HC
The Ms. Marvel Volume 2 Premier HC
yikes indeed
Gotta stay away from premier hc's man they're evil. Even though weighting another 4-6 for the paperback is a ***** too
Mikegraham6
03-08-2007, 04:02 AM
that scene between Ares and MM and IM was great. I didn't really have much previous experience with Ares and I was like **** this Ares guy who cares? After that scene, I was like: I like this Ares guy. Who is he?
Ares was the best part of Mighty, second best? Ms Marvel finally saying what we are all thinking about the Sentry... although after hearing what tony said i have a feeling Bendis has big plans for the character in this book
Ares was the best part of Mighty, second best? Ms Marvel finally saying what we are all thinking about the Sentry... although after hearing what tony said i have a feeling Bendis has big plans for the character in this book
I have always, always, always disliked the Sentry. He's low-rent crazy Superman, and I'm not that into Superman. But in this it seems like Bendis is going to play more off of that crazy and growing into what he could be side of him that I think may be the interesting part about him. I'm now excited to see what he does with him.
Gotta stay away from premier hc's man they're evil. Even though weighting another 4-6 for the paperback is a ***** too
I'm a sucker for a hardcover. I have such a pretty collection
Jo-RelRollins
03-08-2007, 04:17 AM
I have always, always, always disliked the Sentry. He's low-rent crazy Superman, and I'm not that into Superman. But in this it seems like Bendis is going to play more off of that crazy and growing into what he could be side of him that I think may be the interesting part about him. I'm now excited to see what he does with him.
Is it odd but i think the guy in the books "whats-his-name" , needs to think away the Sentry. When he was reintroduced as a psycho during the first New Avengers arc( i liked him, BECAUSE HE WAS CRAZY), this omnipotent Sentry,i'm not a fan of.
Like Erwin would say- "Thats whack Yo."
jerome
03-08-2007, 04:18 AM
Fantastic Four #543 - There is a lot to talk about on this one. This issue has 3 stories. I'll be grading on the first one.
The first story marks the debut of Dwayne McDuffie and Mike McKone. It was a good story that announced that Reed and Sue were taking a break and would be replaced for a time by Black Panther and Storm. I enjoyed it. I have one nitpick though. Luke Cage is bald. I refuse to believe that McKone doesn't know that. It was lazy and stupid. Who's this Luke Cage guy? Dunno, give him a fade. B
The second story celebrated the 45th Anniversary of the FF. It was written by Stan Lee. It was OK. It was a bit more hammy and hokey than I'd care for but overall it was good. The art didn't work for me.
The third story was done by Paul Pope. It was nearly unreadable. It reminded me in plot and look of some bullshit Johnny Quest or Richie Rich cartoon from the '80s. **** that shit. [/I]
The only reason i bought this week's Fantastic Four was because i recently finished reading the Omnibus and i've been in that kind of mood. It was great though. Paul Pope's story was the best one in it. That guy's art is great.
MastaP
03-08-2007, 04:20 AM
The only reason i bought this week's Fantastic Four was because i recently finished reading the Omnibus and i've been in that kind of mood. It was great though. Paul Pope's story was the best one in it. That guy's art is great.
Loved the art, story not so much, weakest of the three. I really liked the art in the stan lee story, even inking it's allways good to see mike allred
jerome
03-08-2007, 04:22 AM
I thought the weakest was the in continuity story, but maybe that's because i don't like the modern FF
Is it odd but i think the guy in the books "whats-his-name" , needs to think away the Sentry. When he was reintroduced as a psycho during the first New Avengers arc( i liked him, BECAUSE HE WAS CRAZY), this omnipotent Sentry,i'm not a fan of.
Like Erwin would say- "Thats whack Yo."
Bob Reynolds is his name I believe
and crazy works for me
the void does not work for me
he needs to be crazy without the void
Jo-RelRollins
03-08-2007, 04:28 AM
I think most ppl liked the in continuity story because it took us back to the old FF. Sue and Reed have kinks in their marriage and are leaving to fix those. They show their problems. Marvel's getting back to what they do best, kicking their heores when they're down. Spidey was always struggling to pay bills, XMen were always the outcasts and being treated wrong. And The Fantastic Four were always trying to find a healthy medium betweenfamily life and super heroics. It took us back to what made the FF great. And they also showed former FF members that had come and gone. I liked it.
I thought the weakest was the in continuity story, but maybe that's because i don't like the modern FF
Here's the thing about FF 543 for me:
First off, I expected my comments about Paul Pope's story to be controversial because I know he has a lot of fans. I do believe what I wrote though. It just wasn't there for me.
Second, the in continuity story worked for me, in this instance. Granted, it was very 'on the surface', but it was a transitition story and I believe that it did what it had to. If McDuffie doesn't get deeper in the upcoming issues then only love for Storm and BP will keep me on the title.
I do love those crazy kids
They show their problems. Marvel's getting back to what they do best, kicking their heores when they're down. Spidey was always struggling to pay bills, XMen were always the outcasts and being treated wrong. And The Fantastic Four were always trying to find a healthy medium betweenfamily life and super heroics. It took us back to what made the FF great. And they also showed former FF members that had come and gone. I liked it.
that's also quite true and it's one of the things I'm most excited about in the post-CW landscape.
jerome
03-08-2007, 04:36 AM
Here's the thing about FF 543 for me:
First off, I expected my comments about Paul Pope's story to be controversial because I know he has a lot of fans. I do believe what I wrote though. It just wasn't there for me.
Second, the in continuity story worked for me, in this instance. Granted, it was very 'on the surface', but it was a transitition story and I believe that it did what it had to. If McDuffie doesn't get deeper in the upcoming issues then only love for Storm and BP will keep me on the title.
yeah, I'll probably pick up the next issue, i hope i enjoy it as much as this issue because i'd love it if the FF one of Marvel's better books.
Jimski
03-08-2007, 04:55 AM
Ugh, the Sentry is still in my life. Oh well.
I happened to be rereading the Avengers Disassembled storyline the other night, and initially Hawkeye and the Falcon are blaming Ultron for the disaster. Falcon says to Tony, "We don't really know how to kill Ultron. For all we know, he's living somewhere in your armor right now." It would be really interesting if they chose this moment two years later to pay off that throwaway line.
I thought the thought balloons were used perfectly; that inner monologue (not exposition crammed into a little cloud, but actual inner monologue) seemed spot-on to me. So, if nothing else, you all have insight into the way I think now.
I am seeing a lot of people really connecting with Cap #25 in a very genuine, heartfelt way. I loved it, but if I had it to do over I probably wouldn't read it in a crowded McDonald's.
I happened to be rereading the Avengers Disassembled storyline the other night, and initially Hawkeye and the Falcon are blaming Ultron for the disaster. Falcon says to Tony, "We don't really know how to kill Ultron. For all we know, he's living somewhere in your armor right now." It would be really interesting if they chose this moment two years later to pay off that throwaway line.
You see this, this right here, is the bane of my comics reading experience. That's the whole reason I don't drop some books when I get frustrated with them - the seemingly inconsequential dangling thing that returns later.
Jo-RelRollins
03-08-2007, 07:06 AM
I have two things:
1. Jimski did u embarass urself in a mcdonalds over Cap? aw.
2. Is it just me or in Mighty was Tony never in the suit? It shaped changed into the female ultron as a total suit, so i don't think he was there.
2. Is it just me or in Mighty was Tony never in the suit? It shaped changed into the female ultron as a total suit, so i don't think he was there.
That's interesting. I never thought of that
This is from an interview with Joe Q at CBR about Cap's death. (http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=9914) This is a question about the whole Cap's alive on the raft thing found in the Initiative:
One thing that's been going around today was discussion of a sequence in "Civil War: The Initiative" where there was some talk that Cap was still alive. Can you address that for our readers? I have not read the actual panels that were published, but the truth of the matter is it's a discussion between Ms. Marvel and Spider-Woman or something like that - and I'm about to SPOIL "THE INITIATIVE" STORY for everybody right here, right now, so stop reading if you don't want to know - but what Ms. Marvel is trying to do is she's trying to trap Spider-Woman. She's actually giving her mis-information, none of that is true, but it is an element of the story that eventually gets revealed later on in the story. SPOILER OVER
Great interview with Jeph Loeb about Fallen Son: Death of Captain America at Newsarama (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=104117)
and one more
Marvel's statement on the Death of Steve Rogers:
"Captain America will continue to be published despite the very real death of Steve Rogers.
Next week, Civil War: The Confession features the final moments of his life.
In April & May, Fallen Son: Death of Captain America will follow the Marvel Universe’s reaction to this tragedy.
Also in May, Captain America #26 is where the aftermath of his death must be faced, beginning with the autopsy of his body.
Comments from Ms. Marvel in this week’s Civil War: The Initiative, which seemed to indicate that Captain America is still alive, and being held prisoner by the Pro-Registration forces may not have been exactly what they seemed on the surface, and events related to those comments will play out in upcoming issues of New Avengers.
So, yes, Captain America, Steve Rogers, is dead."
kwok_talk
03-08-2007, 01:44 PM
Man…this is one of those weeks that makes me wish I went to the LCS weekly.
Ed Brubaker at CBR (http://www.ifanboy.com/archive/weblog/quesada_on_the.html)
it's short and well worth reading. I think he's kind of hinting that Bucky will be taking over the Cap mantle.
Jimski
03-08-2007, 03:42 PM
1. Jimski did u embarass urself in a mcdonalds over Cap? aw.
Actually, I think the reason I wasn't as moved the first time I read it was because I was trying to finish it while some kid behind me kept going, "I WAN-NA HAPPY MEAL!!! I WAN-NA ICE CWEAM!!"
Such a fluke; I have never eaten McDonald's during a workday in my entire career, and I picked yesterday.
k33k3r
03-08-2007, 04:00 PM
Actually, I think the reason I wasn't as moved the first time I read it was because I was trying to finish it while some kid behind me kept going, "I WAN-NA HAPPY MEAL!!! I WAN-NA ICE CWEAM!!"
Such a fluke; I have never eaten McDonald's during a workday in my entire career, and I picked yesterday.
I can only imagine the things that were going through your head during the kids rant.
kwok_talk
03-08-2007, 04:09 PM
I can only imagine the things that were going through your head during the kids rant.
“What would Captain America do in this situation? …Not kill these kids..sigh”
ConorKilpatrick
03-08-2007, 04:14 PM
Eh, those kids will be dead of heart disease in 20-30 years anyway.
iSteve
03-08-2007, 04:15 PM
Somewhat off topic - One of the things that stood out for me this week was how many comics cost more than the usual $2.99:
Captain America #25 $3.99
Civil War Initiative $4.99
Fantastic Four #543 $3.99
Mighty Avengers #1 $3.99
Shazam The Monster Society Of Evil #2 $5.99
Captain America I can understand - the others not so much. Still don't get why Shazam has to cost $6.
ConorKilpatrick
03-08-2007, 04:24 PM
Still don't get why Shazam has to cost $6.
Does that book have ads? I don't think it does...
It's also big and thick and on nice paper and it's Jeff Smith! :)
iSteve
03-08-2007, 04:29 PM
Still, $6 is a lot for a single issue. Granted - it's done well. I'm just worried about price creep of comics in general.
DrWally
03-08-2007, 04:33 PM
Does that book have ads? I don't think it does...
It's also big and thick and on nice paper and it's Jeff Smith! :)
No, Jeff Smith's Shazam doesn't have ads, it is blissfully free of ads, and the paper stock is indeed very fine. So, it really is a fair deal. As somebody who used to read comics going Waaaaaay back to 1968 up to 1990, I am pretty shocked at how often books these days fall apart, as in the center page falling off the staple. The quality of art is definitely far above that of bygone days, but when pages fall out? That's just bad, really bad. That used to NEVER, EVER happen.
Mikegraham6
03-08-2007, 04:46 PM
Great interview with Jeph Loeb about Fallen Son: Death of Captain America at Newsarama (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=104117)
isn't there an actual issue of fallen son that stars cap? thats the whole reason i thought he wasn't going to be the one who died
ConorKilpatrick
03-08-2007, 05:07 PM
isn't there an actual issue of fallen son that stars cap? thats the whole reason i thought he wasn't going to be the one who died
Keep in mind - Captain America does not necessarily equal Steve Rogers anymore.
iSteve
03-08-2007, 05:08 PM
isn't there an actual issue of fallen son that stars cap? thats the whole reason i thought he wasn't going to be the one who died
It's the third Fallen Son book. Here's what Jeph Loeb said about it...
NRAMA: Captain America – Bargaining.
Hmmm, so talk about this one as much as you can. Who is doing the bargaining here? The next guy who assumes the mantle of Captain America? Or will you be following Steve Rogers in the after-life maybe trying to make a deal to reverse his fate..?
JL: Without giving too much away, there are lots of people in the Marvel Universe (and I'm betting out there in the readership) who are already trying to figure out who should be the next Captain America. Some folks would argue that it was Steve Rogers who was killed, not Cap and that Cap should and must live on. Then there's the opposition who believe that Steve Rogers was Cap. We'll see in Fallen Son #1 that Tony Stark has Cap's shield. What he wants to do with it with surprise some people, anger others, and hopefully fall right into line with what came out of Civil War.
kwok_talk
03-08-2007, 05:16 PM
isn't there an actual issue of fallen son that stars cap? thats the whole reason i thought he wasn't going to be the one who died
Opening page: Steve Rogers in coffin.
Pages 2-40: Black
The black pages will be illustrated by Rob Liefeld.
Eh, those kids will be dead of heart disease in 20-30 years anyway.
and now Conor with
The Good News
Opening page: Steve Rogers in coffin.
Pages 2-40: Black
The black pages will be illustrated by Rob Liefeld.
that's my favorite Liefeld book ever
GOOD NEWS FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO CAN'T GET A COPY OF CAP #25
Marvel held back copies and according to my CBG, they will arrive in stores one week from Wednesday. So save yourself $100 and hold off
Mikegraham6
03-08-2007, 05:58 PM
Anyone read 52 yet?? damn that book has gotten good. week after week it been consistently great, either action packed or full of character development. this issue was full of action and it focused on my favorite storyline, black adam. you can see how they are shaping up the upocoming World War III in this past few issues and it all seems to be finally coming together.
iSteve
03-08-2007, 06:10 PM
Anyone read 52 yet?? damn that book has gotten good. week after week it been consistently great, either action packed or full of character development. this issue was full of action and it focused on my favorite storyline, black adam. you can see how they are shaping up the upocoming World War III in this past few issues and it all seems to be finally coming together.
Agreed. 52 was great this week. It takes good writing to actually make you feel sorry for Black Adam. With this issue, I'm actually beginning to look forward to WWIII. Anxious to see what happens with Black Adam against everybody.
Scott B
03-08-2007, 07:02 PM
Cap was hands down the pick of the week for me as well. I was actually a little pissed, because Marvel let it out Wednesday morning about Cap being killed. I was mainly pissed, not because of his death, but that I didn't have a chance to read it for myself before it happened. He's been my favorite superhero forever and I am wearing black today and a Cap pin in rememberance.
Anyhoo, Fred had read the issue and posted on the board how great it was, and that the leak should not stop me from picking it up. If not for Fred I would have just waited for the second printing and called it a night, but three comic stores later I found a copy and this is the best comic I have read since the Avengers Disassembled final issue. The last page my jaw dropped, but none of my friends or family read comics, so no one really understood. I had a feeling when Brubaker started this, that he was going down as one of the best writers on this book, and I think this will open up a FANTASTIC storyline.
Thank again Fred. That's two I owe you!
iSteve
03-08-2007, 09:24 PM
Fred, where's your reviews of Hulk Power Pack #1 and Marvel Zombies/Army of Darkness #1? I'm sure their absence in your review was just an oversight.
I'm still waiting to review Ghost Rider Trail of Tears 2 - that's coming.
And for you Steve, I'll do MZ/AoD #1
Hulk Power Pack - NEVER
iSteve
03-08-2007, 09:32 PM
I'm still waiting to review Ghost Rider Trail of Tears 2 - that's coming.
And for you Steve, I'll do MZ/AoD #1
Hulk Power Pack - NEVER
I guess that leaves Hulk Power Pack to me then.;)
go for it dude
nobody will fight you for it
This was really good. I've enjoyed it. I wish that the ongoing book were about this story rather than what it is. This is a story about the Civil War era Ghost Rider. Crain's art is awesome. I love it. This book deserves an A-.
Mikegraham6
03-08-2007, 10:36 PM
After reading Justice League of America today, my question to you guys is:
why didn't Meltzer just write a six issue Red Tornado mini series, that seems to be were he was going with this book. Its not bad (it had a few holy shit moments) but it doesn't feel like a justice league book.
at one point I actually described it as a Red Tornado circle jerk
I'm not sure why he didn't just write a Red Tornado book. No wait, I do know. Nobody would buy a Red Tornado book. So they thought they'd let him do it anyway but as a wolf in sheep's clothing.
Oddly, I don't hate it. I just don't particularly like it. I'm a bit hesitant to drop it though because I dropped 52 early and now everyone says it's great. Dilemmas
I just read Marvel Zombies vs Army of Darkness #1 at the request of iSteve and boy am I glad I did. Thanks Steve. It was really cool. It was funny and cool and I wasn't lost. It's been a while since I've seen the movies and I didn't expect that I remembered much of them. It turns out that I didn't have to. I think that this may have actually started stronger than the original Marvel Zombies. I have high hopes for the rest of the series. The art was on the better side of passable. A
Mikegraham6
03-08-2007, 10:47 PM
I just read Marvel Zombies vs Army of Darkness #1 at the request of iSteve and boy am I glad I did. Thanks Steve. It was really cool. It was funny and cool and I wasn't lost. It's been a while since I've seen the movies and I didn't expect that I remembered much of them. It turns out that I didn't have to. I think that this may have actually started stronger than the original Marvel Zombies. I have high hopes for the rest of the series. The art was on the better side of passable. A
What i really enjoyed about this book is the time frame its put in. it takes place before the original MARVEL ZOMBIES book. so you get to see how the whole mess began, who got infected first and how it spread. it was this aspect that i enjoyed the most. of course throwing ash into the mix can never hurt (even though at some moments he crossed the line between being campy to being outright cheesy)
Mikegraham6
03-08-2007, 10:49 PM
at one point I actually described it as a Red Tornado circle jerk
I'm not sure why he didn't just write a Red Tornado book. No wait, I do know. Nobody would buy a Red Tornado book. So they thought they'd let him do it anyway but as a wolf in sheep's clothing.
Oddly, I don't hate it. I just don't particularly like it. I'm a bit hesitant to drop it though because I dropped 52 early and now everyone says it's great. Dilemmas
I think if it was titled Red Tornado, you'd still have a lot of people who'd buy it only for the Meltzer name and the fact that Identity Crisis was so strong. But your right, the numbers wouldn't have been nearly as high without the words Justice League of America on the cover.
the timeperiod thing was cool. Also, the scene with Daredevil and Thunderball was hilarious.
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u116/fredhosley/MarvelZombiesvsArmyofDarkness01-pag.jpg
I think if it was titled Red Tornado, you'd still have a lot of people who'd buy it only for the Meltzer name and the fact that Identity Crisis was so strong. But your right, the numbers wouldn't have been nearly as high without the words Justice League of America on the cover.
that's the thing though - it's a HUGE book from a sales standpoint.
In December, when it last came out, they released #4 and #5
They sold 136,700 and 132,500 copies respectively and came in at #1 and #2 for the month.
Mikegraham6
03-08-2007, 10:58 PM
the timeperiod thing was cool. Also, the scene with Daredevil and Thunderball was hilarious.
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u116/fredhosley/MarvelZombiesvsArmyofDarkness01-pag.jpg
that whole scene at the beginning was the best part of the book, it was a great take on the whole "heroes misunderstanding" thing that we've seen a million times before.
I guess that leaves Hulk Power Pack to me then.;)
did you really read Hulk Power Pack?
iSteve
03-09-2007, 12:33 AM
did you really read Hulk Power Pack?
Sarcasm just really isn't easily conveyed by posts, is it?:rolleyes: No, Hulk Power Pack isn't on my reading list this week. But I did really enjoy your review of MZ/AOD though. With your positive word, how can I not read it now.
Sarcasm just really isn't easily conveyed by posts, is it?:rolleyes: No, Hulk Power Pack isn't on my reading list this week. But I did really enjoy your review of MZ/AOD though. With your positive word, how can I not read it now.
I had a feeling. You don't seem like a Hulk Power Pack guy to me.
MZAoD was much better than I expected
iSteve
03-09-2007, 12:46 AM
The truth of the matter is that I actually have both MZ/AOD and Hulk Power Pack. Why HPP you ask? Because my pull/subscription list includes all Marvel and DC #1 issues. The downside is that sometimes I get a dud like HPP, but the upside is that I'm guaranteed books that are likely to go quickly, like CA 25. I'll pass along HPP to one of the kids in the neighborhood.
Mikegraham6
03-09-2007, 12:58 AM
fred, i gotta ask your opinion on the whole "planet Hulk" storyline. I read some really good reviews of this book in the beginning (roughly parts 1 through 4 of the first arc) but they've progressively gotten more and more negative, to the point were they hate the newer issues. now this storyline is really long right? like 12 issues and it all leads up to world war hulk. nayway im interested in knowing what you think of this whole story so far, should i pick up the 12 issue trade when it comes out? read it before WWhulk? you seemed to have liked the newest one....
K-Dizzle
03-09-2007, 01:14 AM
Marvel
They were also the publisher of the week with an average grade of slightly higher than a B.
I just re read your reviews and noticed this. now you are rating the publishers? Damn thats funny. Funny enough to warrent the sticky thread treatment some would say.
fred, i gotta ask your opinion on the whole "planet Hulk" storyline. I read some really good reviews of this book in the beginning (roughly parts 1 through 4 of the first arc) but they've progressively gotten more and more negative, to the point were they hate the newer issues. now this storyline is really long right? like 12 issues and it all leads up to world war hulk. nayway im interested in knowing what you think of this whole story so far, should i pick up the 12 issue trade when it comes out? read it before WWhulk? you seemed to have liked the newest one....
I've enjoyed Planet Hulk. I think it's been great. I don't know that it's necessary to enjoy WWH but I'd be willing to bet it would help. At the end of the last issue there was something really huge that happened that I think will make it easier. OK, I'll come out with it. I thought, prior to this issue, that he might be coming back with some of his new friends who were entirely new characters. But the last issue ended with a huge explosion so I don't know if they're all dead now or what will happen.
Short answer: yes, read it. It's good.
that was easy right?
I just re read your reviews and noticed this. now you are rating the publishers? Damn thats funny. Funny enough to warrent the sticky thread treatment some would say.
thank you sir. I started it last week or the one before. I can't remember which. Individual grading was a suggesstion from one of the people here and I just extrapolated it out to publisher.
Mikegraham6
03-09-2007, 02:38 AM
I've enjoyed Planet Hulk. I think it's been great. I don't know that it's necessary to enjoy WWH but I'd be willing to bet it would help. At the end of the last issue there was something really huge that happened that I think will make it easier. OK, I'll come out with it. I thought, prior to this issue, that he might be coming back with some of his new friends who were entirely new characters. But the last issue ended with a huge explosion so I don't know if they're all dead now or what will happen.
Short answer: yes, read it. It's good.
that was easy right?
Thanks, hopefully Marvel will release a 12 issue trade before the WWHulk thing. It would be good marketing on their part, but for some reason I don't see it happening in time... they seem to be in a rush when it comes to their company wide crossovers these days....
JGG0610
03-09-2007, 02:45 AM
Overall a really strong week. I didn't expect a lot from Mighty Avengers and I was very pleasantly surprised. The Initiative was one I debated about picking up and it turned out to be okay as well. The first issue of Cap I've read in about 20 years and what an issue to come back on. I must accelerate my plans to pick up those Cap trades.
Was I the only one lost by New Universal this week?
Lastly, Fred one small nitpick. This was not Duffie and McKone's debut on FF. That took place last issue in 542 whenever that was.
thanks for pointing that out. I did not realize that
acomicbookgirl
03-09-2007, 03:27 AM
Man…this is one of those weeks that makes me wish I went to the LCS weekly.
I so agree with you.. :o
Mikegraham6
03-09-2007, 03:37 AM
I so agree with you.. :o
They don't come around often but when they do, weeks like this make worth putting up with the weeks that only have Wolverine: Origins and New Excaliber. ;)
Origins: Worst..... book...... ever
paper
03-09-2007, 01:05 PM
Thanks, hopefully Marvel will release a 12 issue trade before the WWHulk thing. It would be good marketing on their part, but for some reason I don't see it happening in time... they seem to be in a rush when it comes to their company wide crossovers these days....
Planet Hulk collected (http://www.amazon.com/Incredible-Hulk-Planet-Greg-Pak/dp/0785122451/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-9664821-9125247?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1173448844&sr=8-1). It comes out in June, but you can always stockpile the WWH books until then. It's only a month/month and 1/2 late.
k33k3r
03-09-2007, 01:40 PM
Origins: Worst..... book...... ever
I have finally decided to drop this book. I was on the fence about as of recently and now after seeing that this arc is spread out of like 4 or 5 more books I'm done.
kwok_talk
03-09-2007, 01:46 PM
I read the AOD vs. Zombies issue today and I thought it was good dumb fun and I’m looking forward to the rest of the series. Seeing Ash’s interactions with the Marvel heroes has been pretty funny so far.
Mikegraham6
03-09-2007, 04:28 PM
i read uncanny last night. im really on the fence about this one, i dont hate like some people seem to, but im not enjoying it as much as i should (it is a x-book after all). this story is really getting drawn out, it would have worked out a lot better had it been a six issue arc, i mean they spent this issue recruiting yet another shi'ar character who i dont know or care about. the x-team is already huge and filled with b-list x-men, we dont need another useless ally. all i have to say is that brubaker better be building to one helluva battle in the last few issues, cause that would probably be the only that would save it.
Jo-RelRollins
03-09-2007, 04:42 PM
I'm like u,i was excited when they added brubaker and did this major change. But its becoming so lengthy. He states that he plans a huge payoff. He says not everyone will return and that numerous changes will happen to the Shiar Empire. So i'm trying real hard to be patient.
iSteve
03-09-2007, 05:12 PM
Some of the books I read this week:
Captain America #25 – I loved the juxtaposition of Cap’s origin with the current storyline. It allowed tribute to be paid to the hero even as his death was being set up. It was great to see Bucky working with both Nick Fury and also the Falcon. When he and the Falcon went after the shooter, it was reminiscent of Cap and the Falcon’s partnership over the years. I was relieved that it was the Red Skull (Cap’s historic arch-enemy) behind the assassination rather than some CW tie-in. As sad as Cap’s death was, I thought it was absolutely tragic that Sharon Carter had been psychologically manipulated into shooting Cap. And then to pour salt into the wound, she was forced to remember her complicity. It seems that the Red Skull wasn’t interested in just killing Cap, but in destroying those who loved him.
Civil War: Initiative #1 – I didn’t expect to like this title, but I was pleasantly surprised. Enjoyed the debut of Omega Flight. The only thing I really didn’t appreciate was the whole exchange between Ms. Marvel and Spider-Woman. The confusion over whether Cap was really dead was unnecessary. Even though Quesada tried to clear up the confusion by saying that Ms. Marvel was being disingenuous and trying to garner Spider-Woman’s trust – yeah, by lying to her. This shouldn’t have been included – especially in an issue released the same week as Cap’s death. Marvel stepped on their own story.
The Mighty Avengers #1 – Even though in my mind, the MA will never be the “real” Avengers, I found myself cheering them on despite my inclination. I think Ms. Marvel will make a great team leader, if Stark doesn’t continually subvert her authority (which I’m sure he’ll try to do). Interesting to have a big throw-down in a recruitment issue. If only the Justice League of America could have been written so concisely and adeptly. Bendis knows what he’s doing, and Cho’s art is phenomenal. Though I now despise Tony Stark as a character and want to show my feelings by boycotting MA, there is no way I won’t buy this title.
Shazam and the Monster Society of Evil #2 – I’m enjoyed this re-imaging of Capt. Marvel. It was great to see the introduction of Mary Marvel and Tawney the Talking Tiger. Fred nailed this issue when he said that Jeff Smith should have preserved the timeless quality of the story by dropping the contemporary references. It distracted from the story. What’s up with all the talking alligators and crocs? Both here and in 52!
Justice Society of America #6 – This continues to be a huge disappointment. It’s not that it’s bad – it’s just not as good as it should be. This Red Tornado storyline has been drawn out much, much too long. And what’s will Solomon Grundy eating the arm?
Jonah Hex # 17 – If Captain America #25 had not come out this week, this would have been my POW. Hex is one of the best titles being published. Loved the character of Tallulah Black. They nailed her dialect. She’s one tough woman – basically a female Hex. I hope they will bring her back in a future story. The gunfight sequences were drawn extremely well.
Uncle Sam and the Freedom Fighters #8 – I have a soft spot for Uncle Sam and the Freedom Fighters. I suppose it goes back to my fascination with many of the Golden Age characters from the 1940s. I bought all eight issues of this title. While I enjoyed it as a fun read, I can honestly say it could have and should have been better. The main problem was the villain. He didn’t feel appropriate to the story. It was nice, however, to see a new team of Freedom Fighters come together.
Detective Comics #829 – I thought that Moore and Clarke did an admirable in this fill-in issue. I like storylines that reveal more about Bruce Wayne. This story highlighted his diplomatic connections and skills.
The Fantastic Four #543 – I thought that this was a great transition issue. Loved seeing the family dynamics of the FF on display – Thing, Johnny and the kids hanging out; Reed and Sue in an intimate conversation – they are all trying to figure out how the pieces of their lives, broken by the CW, fit together again. I enjoyed the good humored second story, drawn in a Kirby-esque style. I even found myself laughing at Stan the Man’s appearance. The third story had no place in this issue, in my opinion.
52 Week Forty-Four – One of the best story arcs in 52 has been that of Black Adam and his family. It’s been interesting to see the transformation of Black Adam from quasi-bad guy to hero of-a-sorts. Inspired by the love of Isis and their new sense of family with her brother, Osiris, Black Adam was evolving into a champion. All that comes to an end in this issue with the deaths of both Osiris and Isis. This is the deconstruction of a hero, setting Black Adam on a path of vengeance. The story was well done, as was the mini-narrative of Rene’s embracing her destiny as the new Question.
Labor_Days
03-09-2007, 05:17 PM
What’s up with all the talking alligators and crocs? Both here and in 52!Talking crocs & alligators are the new zombies and bugs.
Mikegraham6
03-09-2007, 05:21 PM
the scene in the initiative was really confusing to me, especially considering that i read it first, before CAP 25. i just figured that marvel had made one of its patented continuity snafus. i just thought that maybe the marvel u had thought cap had died after the new york battle, but of course it made even LESS sense after i read CAP 25. what a stupid mistake on marvel's part. if it hadn't been for the Sasquatch scene, i would have been really pissed about buying this book, but now im really excited for omega flight! i think Canada's premier super team is going to be done justice (they haven't been written to well in the past 5 years and they were taken out like little b*tches)
JGG0610
03-09-2007, 05:25 PM
I enjoyed the Iniative overall, but I found the Omega Flight introduction to be the weak link. I've never really read them in their own book but it just didn't click for me. Oeming's writing this, right?
kwok_talk
03-09-2007, 06:11 PM
I'm glad you guys mentioned the reasoning behind the "cap is alive" thing in the initiative. I just read it this morning and was totally confused. The Omega Flight art was really nice, but I didn't know anything previously about Omega Flight being killed (?). Is this Xorn related to the Xmen one (well, not Magneto, at least)?
Nice reviews Steve
and you should know that crocs are all the rage
funny, only tangentially related story, I went on a field trip with my daughter this morning and in the middle of an animal show this little asshole in her class jumped up and yelled: 'Steve Irwin got eaten by a sting ray and then he died'. This comment - totally out of context.
same kid teabagged three of his classmates during the presentation
nice kid
I'm glad you guys mentioned the reasoning behind the "cap is alive" thing in the initiative. I just read it this morning and was totally confused. The Omega Flight art was really nice, but I didn't know anything previously about Omega Flight being killed (?). Is this Xorn related to the Xmen one (well, not Magneto, at least)?
I'm going to butcher this, so help me out here guys, the guy in OF was a guy who absorbed the mutant powers that were lost on M-Day. He couldn't control all of the powers at once and killed a bunch of people, Alpha Flight included. This all happened in the pages of New Avengers.
kwok_talk
03-09-2007, 07:23 PM
Fred – I think this was last week’s releases, but thx for the good word on Nextwave. I didn’t know much about it and flipped the last issue. It looked hilarious and I plan on picking up the first trade this weekend.
Like the new avatar
Fred – I think this was last week’s releases, but thx for the good word on Nextwave. I didn’t know much about it and flipped the last issue. It looked hilarious and I plan on picking up the first trade this weekend.
Like the new avatar
Yes, NextWave was last week or maybe the one before but it was really good. I miss it already. There's one premier out now and a second coming in the next few(I think it's already been solicited).
tks on the avatar, back to basics - for today anyway
kwok_talk
03-09-2007, 07:30 PM
I'm like u,i was excited when they added brubaker and did this major change. But its becoming so lengthy. He states that he plans a huge payoff. He says not everyone will return and that numerous changes will happen to the Shiar Empire. So i'm trying real hard to be patient.
I just don’t find Vulcan to be an interesting character at all. Not in Deadly Genesis, and definitely not here. On a side note, doesn't the symbol on his costume look a lot like the spiderman symbol?
The payoff better be some cash to reimburse readers for this meandering storyline. On a good note, I like Tan’s art.
I'm such a fan of Brubaker that I've been buying Uncanny every month and haven't read a single word of his run yet. I trust him that much. I don't particularly like the Shiiar or 12 part storylines so I'm waiting. I will either prove to be a rube or a genius. again
Dynamite to ship The Boys #7 and The Boys Vol 1 TPB in June (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=104456)
Shazam to become a movie? (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=104494)
ConorKilpatrick
03-09-2007, 07:55 PM
Shazam to become a movie? (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=104494)
Shouldn't that be its own thread?
kwok_talk
03-09-2007, 07:55 PM
Nice reviews Steve
and you should know that crocs are all the rage
funny, only tangentially related story, I went on a field trip with my daughter this morning and in the middle of an animal show this little asshole in her class jumped up and yelled: 'Steve Irwin got eaten by a sting ray and then he died'. This comment - totally out of context.
same kid teabagged three of his classmates during the presentation
nice kid
How old was this kid? Sadly, with today’s kids, I’m sure he was like 4. Did you hear about those 6th graders caught having sex in shop class? Geez, maybe I’m becoming an old fogey, but some kids need a major whuppin
Mikegraham6
03-09-2007, 08:00 PM
I'm such a fan of Brubaker that I've been buying Uncanny every month and haven't read a single word of his run yet. I trust him that much. I don't particularly like the Shiiar or 12 part storylines so I'm waiting. I will either prove to be a rube or a genius. again
you know what fred, i think you've got the right idea, i think this book will read a lot better together or in trade.
good news about the boys, i really want to pick that trade, it sounds interesting
Shouldn't that be its own thread?
I put it here because I didn't expect it to generate much talk but here it is:
Shazam thread (http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4573)
How old was this kid? Sadly, with today’s kids, I’m sure he was like 4. Did you hear about those 6th graders caught having sex in shop class? Geez, maybe I’m becoming an old fogey, but some kids need a major whuppin
He was EXACTLY 4. Way to go Kwok. If you're getting old than I am too. That shit was crazy.
you know what fred, i think you've got the right idea, i think this book will read a lot better together or in trade.
good news about the boys, i really want to pick that trade, it sounds interesting
I'm excited too. I've missed it. I've heard reports that they've used all of this to get ahead so maybe it will double-ship or at least stay consistently on time. Can't hate that
Labor_Days
03-09-2007, 09:44 PM
Obviously, I haven't read all my books yet but Cap #25 is going to be awfully hard to beat. Perhaps I was too hasty. See: This week's Phonogram & Strangers In Paradise. What a week for comics.
There's a new Joe Fridays (http://www.newsarama.com/NewJoeFridays/NewJoeFridays_38.html) and he answers questions about the Bendis/Maleev SpiderWoman, the death of Cap, Ultimates 2 #13, Joss Whedon's contribution to Civil War, etc
iSteve
03-09-2007, 11:42 PM
There's a new Joe Fridays (http://www.newsarama.com/NewJoeFridays/NewJoeFridays_38.html) and he answers questions about the Bendis/Maleev SpiderWoman, the death of Cap, Ultimates 2 #13, Joss Whedon's contribution to Civil War, etc
I'm reading it now.
Mikegraham6
03-09-2007, 11:51 PM
has everyone given up on the Wildstorm relaunch? i only hear talk of tranquility, but i picked up midnighter and authority this week. Midnighter isn't an exceptional book but it is fun (and its written by garth ennis) i think the next issue is written by BKV. He's an entertaining character but a total batman ripoff. B-
The Authority's art is amazing. its definitely the best part of the book. the story isn't bad either. i enjoy the idea of placing these uber-heroes (facists?) entering into our dimension. the scene where they discuss their own Authority comics was the best part of the book. I also enjoyed the scene where they discuss whether they should "invade" our world and fix it in their image (apparently with no superheroes, we would be a big pushover) its still slow moving so those who can deal with that kind of pace should look into picking it up in trade. B+
so i can understand people's bitterness toward the whole Worldstorm event, i myself dropped gen 13 and might be getting rid of deathblow after next issue, but i recommend these two, they aren't half bad.
I gave all the relaunches a try but dropped each of them after the first issue. Wetworks #1 was probably one of the 10 worst comic books I've ever read. I'd rather eat a bag full of nails than read it again.
Mikegraham6
03-10-2007, 12:17 AM
I gave all the relaunches a try but dropped each of them after the first issue. Wetworks #1 was probably one of the 10 worst comic books I've ever read. I'd rather eat a bag full of nails than read it again.
i agree, that was one of the worst books i'd read in the past 5 years... utterly horrible ---puking smiley--
you could use this: http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u116/fredhosley/puking.png or this: http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u116/fredhosley/emot-barf.gif
iSteve
03-10-2007, 12:30 AM
you could use this: http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u116/fredhosley/puking.png or this: http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u116/fredhosley/emot-barf.gif
Well... that's different...
JGG0610
03-10-2007, 02:58 AM
I tried Authority but the story was just too confusing and the delays didn't help. Deathblow was ok but not great. I'm still reading Gen 13. I'm enjoying it.
I tried Authority but the story was just too confusing and the delays didn't help. Deathblow was ok but not great. I'm still reading Gen 13. I'm enjoying it.
Their books all have hilariously bad titles.
Deathblow - I can imagine this has something to do with necrophelia?
Stormwatch PHD - Baywatch Medical School? Why PHD? Was STD too silly?
Wetworks - The jokes are too cheap and sleazy even for me
acomicbookgirl
03-10-2007, 04:52 AM
I'm such a fan of Brubaker that I've been buying Uncanny every month and haven't read a single word of his run yet. I trust him that much. I don't particularly like the Shiiar or 12 part storylines so I'm waiting. I will either prove to be a rube or a genius. again
Um.. I didn't like it at first but it grew on me. My LCS had all five issues of Criminal. So far i'm liking that too.. :)
acomicbookgirl
03-10-2007, 04:53 AM
you could use this: http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u116/fredhosley/puking.png or this: http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u116/fredhosley/emot-barf.gif
where did you get those? :confused:
acomicbookgirl
03-10-2007, 05:03 AM
Still reading my stuff.. The art of Civil War The Initiative: Awful! Awful!:eek:
K-Dizzle
03-10-2007, 05:27 AM
I tried Authority but the story was just too confusing and the delays didn't help. Deathblow was ok but not great. I'm still reading Gen 13. I'm enjoying it.
I read every issue of Gen 13 and loved it because of j scott campbell. I know a lot of you dont like his style, but mother **** yall anyway. I dont know about art but I know what I like.
K-Dizzle
03-10-2007, 05:56 AM
Still reading my stuff.. The art of Civil War The Initiative: Awful! Awful!:eek: What was so bad about it? was it the 3-D cone titties on Jesica Drew? Or the nipples on every page? haw about the crotch shot? what a shitty book.
acomicbookgirl
03-10-2007, 06:14 AM
:rolleyes:
I tried Authority but the story was just too confusing and the delays didn't help. Deathblow was ok but not great. I'm still reading Gen 13. I'm enjoying it.
I had never actually read the Authority the first time around. Yes, I know I'm an idiot or whatever. So I gave this one a shot and it was wicked confusing and the team wasn't even in it if I remember correctly. Then they announced delays and I was out.
Um.. I didn't like it at first but it grew on me. My LCS had all five issues of Criminal. So far i'm liking that too.. :)
Criminal is really very good. Issue #6 will begin arc #2. It's going to ship in May as Sean Phillips is off drawing the new Marvel Zombies one-shot. The interesting thing about it too is that all of the arcs will live in the same world with shared characters but the main characters of each arc will change. That's how I understand it anyway.
where did you get those? :confused:
the constantly barfing one is an emoticon from the SomethingAwful forums
the green one is from some German or Danish(I can't remember) site that I found through Google Image Search
Still reading my stuff.. The art of Civil War The Initiative: Awful! Awful!:eek:
Perfect example: Moonstone - You could lose an eye to hair that sharp and you can see her liver
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u116/fredhosley/moonstone.gif
AlexG
03-10-2007, 05:08 PM
What the hell is going on with Detective. Not just talking about about the absence of Dini, which whatever, but the story overall? This issue felt like it bordered on a "hentai" fan batman fan book. "oh Robin...you've spilled bomb juice all over your costume...here let's get you out of those wet clothes..."
FF 543 with the exception of the stan lee irony loaded bit, continues to be totally lost. This is unfortunate because FF is a superhero family and it would be fun to see how a family deals with the war, instead we get Thing arguing with a kid for 5 pages. Is anyone else tired of extended talking head sequences in their comics? Sue/Reed convo went on for two pages, comics are NOT movies...that might work on tv, but to me, too much talking head in a comic feels like a waste of money.
Jonah Hex 17--now here is some friggin sequential art. The gunfights were wildly kinetic despite being static images. Deeply deeply impressive.
Uncanny X-men--I think I'm about the only person in the world who actually likes the X-books right now. yeah, I LIKE the current Uncanny arc. I like seeing Brubaker cut loose and do wild space opera sci fi. Granted this arc is long and it's hard to pick up late in the game, but frankly I think Brubaker has a rare talent in that he is able to write great individual issues that read well alone as well as in trade. I'm finding this series more and more rewarding as it goes on. The art pops on the page and it's fun. I know no one else seems to like it and they are allowed, just as I'm allowed to like it.
Current obsession: All the books by Doug TenNapel. T
his guy is blowing my mind. Looking for something totally weird and strangely familiar? Earthboy Jacobus. More weird? Gear.
Just my random thoughts after a night of late night reading...
Mikegraham6
03-10-2007, 08:09 PM
Criminal is really very good. Issue #6 will begin arc #2. It's going to ship in May as Sean Phillips is off drawing the new Marvel Zombies one-shot. The interesting thing about it too is that all of the arcs will live in the same world with shared characters but the main characters of each arc will change. That's how I understand it anyway.
after reading criminal this week, im convinced that Brubaker not only owned this week but the past 5 years. daredevil, criminal, cap, sleeper, gotham central, and yes even uncanny. after this week i think he just catapulted himself to being my favorite writer.
as good as cap was, we can't forget criminal, f*ck, what an ending! awesome! (uncanny wasn't too bad either)
Mikegraham6
03-10-2007, 08:14 PM
why is there 5 stars next to this thread now? is fred THAT popular :p?
K-Dizzle
03-10-2007, 08:32 PM
why is there 5 stars next to this thread now? is fred THAT popular :p? Fred is cooler than Jesus because he actually exists.
Fred is cooler than Jesus because he actually exists.
I saw the ossuary and tomb of Jesus on TV last weekend so the debate now isn't whether he exists but if he did all that other stuff.
iSteve
03-11-2007, 01:57 AM
So why does this thread rate a five star over all the other threads - popularity aside?
So why does this thread rate a five star over all the other threads - popularity aside?
it has to do with my sexiness quotient
actually, it's a user assigned rating. I've been trying to figure out how to do it. If the person who did it would be kind enough to let us know how they did it, that would rock.
I've noticed that some threads have a menu item labeled Rate This Thread. How or why it appears in one place or another I don't know. This following text is from the FAQ:
How do I rate a thread? You may find a small menu on thread pages which allows you to 'rate this thread' with a number between 1-5.
Casting a vote for threads you view is entirely optional, but if you think that the thread is superb, you might rate it as a 5-star thread, or if you think that it's unspeakably dismal, you might choose to rate the thread with a single star.
Once enough votes have been cast for the thread rating, you may see a set of stars appear with the title of the thread in the thread listings. These stars reflect the average vote cast, and can allow you to quickly see which threads are worth reading if you are on a very busy forum with a lot of threads.
after reading criminal this week, im convinced that Brubaker not only owned this week but the past 5 years. daredevil, criminal, cap, sleeper, gotham central, and yes even uncanny. after this week i think he just catapulted himself to being my favorite writer.
as good as cap was, we can't forget criminal, f*ck, what an ending! awesome! (uncanny wasn't too bad either)
Of the newest wave of 'big writers', he's by far my favorite. I think that he has the best chance of anyone writing right now to be the next Moore, Miller, or Lee. We already argued that...... here (http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3672)
kwok_talk
03-11-2007, 01:59 PM
Yes, NextWave was last week or maybe the one before but it was really good. I miss it already. There's one premier out now and a second coming in the next few(I think it's already been solicited).
tks on the avatar, back to basics - for today anyway
I picked up the first trade this weekend and completely loved it! I can't wait to read the 2nd trade when it comes out. Man, I'm sad that they only had 12 issues.
I picked up the first trade this weekend and completely loved it! I can't wait to read the 2nd trade when it comes out. Man, I'm sad that they only had 12 issues.
It really is very funny. I'm trying to remember this and I can't. Was this in the first trade? Dirk Anger makes the giant pistol chair with the barrel bent back to the seat so that he can sit down and shoot himself. That was awesome.
kwok_talk
03-11-2007, 02:06 PM
It really is very funny. I'm trying to remember this and I can't. Was this in the first trade? Dirk Anger makes the giant pistol chair with the barrel bent back to the seat so that he can sit down and shoot himself. That was awesome.
Yes it was! haha. Took me a second to figure out what it was, before realizing he was playing russian roulette with himself. I busted out laughing with Fin Fang Foom and his underpants
That was great. You think Fin Fang Foom was cool (and he was)? Wait until you see Kirby's Devil Dinosaur in issue #12.
kwok_talk
03-11-2007, 02:09 PM
That was great. You think Fin Fang Foom was cool (and he was)? Wait until you see Kirby's Devil Dinosaur in issue #12.
Oh yeah, I liked that! (I read #12 before reading anything else) It was a great way to bring back all of these B-list super heroes (it took me forever to remember Captain Marvel)
The HATE inventions/killing machines are the best ever.
There's one point around #9 where they attack them with rocket-firing Steven Hawkings robots
think that's the same issue with the MODOK Elvises
kwok_talk
03-11-2007, 02:13 PM
The HATE inventions/killing machines are the best ever.
There's one point around #9 where they attack them with rocket-firing Steven Hawkings robots
think that's the same issue with the MODOK Elvises
Awesome! I loved the little MODOK baby in #12. and how the t rex took it out with asingle bullet
I'm rather annoyed with the whole NextWave situation.
In a nutshell:
It sells well enough to not go away
It does not sell well enough to keep Immonen on it
Ellis won't do it without Immonen
Immonen is doing USM coming up
Even if trade sales are huge, Immonen won't come off of USM for NextWave
I love the book and even I realize that this would be the worst decision ever
They say it will continue at some point in minis but when?
When Immonen leaves USM? I think that may be a while. That's a book that's kind of used to having stability.
Awesome! I loved the little MODOK baby in #12. and how the t rex took it out with asingle bullet
He was conceived next to a rack of WoW servers
kwok_talk
03-12-2007, 03:25 AM
He was conceived next to a rack of WoW servers
I tried not to imagine that.
K-Dizzle
03-12-2007, 03:53 AM
Who else is excited about this? I think it looks pretty cool. I saw it in the Dabel Brothers preview a few months ago and it was the only thing that looked good. http://www.marvel.com/catalog/?book_id=6084
HALF DEAD
The Story: London. Now. Terrorism is rife, but after today, your life may never be the same again. A ballerina, Romany, gets on a train in the London Underground, a strange gas attack turns her into a half-dead vampire. During the contaiment and cleanup of this attack, she's captured by a government agency formed to battle the vampire threat, PASA (the Bureau of ParaHuman and Supernatural Affairs). Romany's a remarkable subject, and after some training she is paired with her handler, Ian, also one of a very few survivors of a vampire attack. Ian turns her into a force to be reckoned with... The cogs of an evil machine are turning within the winding streets of London; disaster looms on the horizon; they can strike anywhere at any time. What is PASA willing to do to stop them?
124 PGS./Rated T+ …$10.99
that looks kind of cool. I may pick that up
I didn't know where to put this but I thought it was funny
Want to buy the massage table that Evangelical minister Ted Haggard had sex with a gay prostitute on? Ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/Ted-Haggard-Massage-Table_W0QQitemZ290092184603QQcategoryZ36454QQssPag eNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
EDIT: It's going for $1175 with 6.5 days left
kwok_talk
03-12-2007, 02:50 PM
I didn't know where to put this but I thought it was funny
Want to buy the massage table that Evangelical minister Ted Haggard had sex with a gay prostitute on? Ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/Ted-Haggard-Massage-Table_W0QQitemZ290092184603QQcategoryZ36454QQssPag eNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
EDIT: It's going for $1175 with 6.5 days left
Weird. You really think its gay prostitute selling it?
Weird. You really think its gay prostitute selling it?
Suppossedly. I heard it on the news this morning. All the proceeds are going to charity.
this dynamite exclusive mz/AOD variant is pretty bad ass
http://www.newsarama.com/dynamitenew/Mvl_AoD/MZvsAOD1DEexc.jpg
acomicbookgirl
03-13-2007, 03:31 AM
I just finished reading 52 week 44.. I'm sad.. :(
Jimski
03-13-2007, 03:45 AM
this dynamite exclusive mz/AOD variant is pretty bad ass
Maybe it's just my aversion to zombies, but every time I see one of these covers I think of the Powers That Be saying, "Bwah, we can't have the A-list characters in a Max book, see? We don't need little kids picking up a book with Spidey on the cover and seeing buttsex, see? Bwah!" and I think, "Well, what the f*** am I looking at here, jerky? I do believe I can see Spidey feasting on some entrails, there!"
You'll never take me alive copper. I'll fill ya fulla lead. Love that guy.
Anyway, the hypocrisy is kind of crazy. I think that they need to just admit to themselves that we are their market.