'Watchmen' (Pre-Release Hype) [Archive] - Page 3

conorkilpatrick

11-13-2008, 03:24 AM

It sounds like, after reading some recent interviews this week; the majority of the story is part of the book except for the ending. Now I dont know what the ending is (or just saying that so I dont be a dick and spoil anything to this forum) but Synder is publically saying the ending is drastically different.

That's interesting because everything I've read said the ending is the same as in the book.

racemccloud

11-13-2008, 03:25 AM

That's interesting because everything I've read said the ending is the same as in the book.

Really? Because I read a big ol' spoiler in this very thread that leaked a big change to the ending. ("Big" being a subjective term, of course.)

thenextchampion

11-13-2008, 03:26 AM

Really? Because I read a big ol' spoiler in this very thread that leaked a big change to the ending. ("Big" being a subjective term, of course.)

That's also surprising cause Newsarama just had an interview with Synder about the big ending change.....Guess conor doesnt have reliable sources. ;)

conorkilpatrick

11-13-2008, 03:26 AM

Really? Because I read a big ol' spoiler in this very thread that leaked a big change to the ending. ("Big" being a subjective term, of course.)

If you're talking about the missing "thing", that's not the ending of Watchmen. The ending is what happens after that. The final confrontation.

conorkilpatrick

11-13-2008, 03:28 AM

Man, people are making a big story out of this missing "thing", huh? Kinda silly.

racemccloud

11-13-2008, 03:30 AM

If you're talking about the missing "thing", that's not the ending of Watchmen. The ending is what happens after that. The final confrontation.

Sure. I actually prefer what they are (reportedly) going with in place of the "thing". I think the "replacement thing" works better in the overall context of the story.

thenextchampion

11-13-2008, 03:37 AM

Man, people are making a big story out of this missing "thing", huh? Kinda silly.

Well I'm not really getting upset over the alleged 'change'. But I'm sure Alan Moore will catch wind of it and put a curse on Synder and others. Again, as long as it makes Viedt's plot to make the world a better place the still purpose of his crime; then it doesnt matter what or who destroies NYC.

conorkilpatrick

11-13-2008, 03:44 AM

Again, as long as it makes Viedt's plot to make the world a better place the still purpose of his crime; then it doesnt matter what or who destroies NYC.

Agreed .

racemccloud

11-13-2008, 03:46 AM

Again, as long as it makes Viedt's plot to make the world a better place the still purpose of his crime; then it doesnt matter what or who destroies NYC.

Third-ed.

thenextchampion

11-13-2008, 03:54 AM

Also, as long as I dont hear Viedt saying:

'Well I guess your gonna have to spank me cause I've been a bad boy!'

Then I will think the film is perfect.

briangilmore

11-13-2008, 08:06 PM

Agreed .
Yeah, I'm totally in that same camp. Snyder has expressed that the "Themes" in the book are going to be the same (as to his understanding) and that his ending will not ruin any of that. He's stayed almost painfully faithful to the book. He's added action scenes (like the first few minutes of the movie, where you know who gets [blanked]), but they're just stuff to appease his action-movie love and to appeal to new audiences. Also, it's a superhero movie, people expect action.

I'm guessing it'll be an explosion of some kind, but overall, I couldn't care less if there's no [spoiler deleted]. The story seems to be intact. I'm more optimistic about this movie than I used to be.

cam-

11-13-2008, 08:58 PM

I think the problem I have with the lack of [SPOILER REMOVED], and this may only be because I watched the Mindscape of Alan Moore last night*, is that it really is such a dynamic image, so colourful and creative, and just downright horrifying. I'll reserve judgement till I actually see the movie, obviously, but without a [NO SPOILERS] it will certainly be missing something that was visually arresting.

*See the general movie thread - CAM!

esophagus

11-13-2008, 09:04 PM

Seriously guys, no spoilers. The movie hasn't even been released.

racemccloud

11-14-2008, 01:58 AM

Not for nothing, but the new trailer is fan-freaking-tastic.

thenextchampion

11-14-2008, 04:13 AM

Not for nothing, but the new trailer is fan-freaking-tastic.

Agreed. Every trailer I see makes me loves this more and more. Could this honestly be better than Dark Knight?

cammyknoxville

11-14-2008, 05:20 AM

Seeing a snippet of the acting makes me a little more confident. But then again, until I see the final product, I'm not sold.

esophagus

11-14-2008, 07:53 AM

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n243/esophaguss/watchmen.jpg

Loved the new trailer.

briangilmore

11-14-2008, 01:37 PM

Agreed. Every trailer I see makes me loves this more and more. Could this honestly be better than Dark Knight?
No way in hell. They will be apples and oranges. Dark Knight brings Batman into a realistic world - our world, to a certain degree. Watchmen exists in its own universe. It'll be ok, but I'm still worried about the dialogue delivery. The one scene I've seen with Rorschach has me questioning his dialogue/delivery a lot.

cam-

11-14-2008, 02:51 PM

Seriously guys, no spoilers. The movie hasn't even been released.

Not really a spoiler if it's not even going to be in the movie. The books been out for years. Just saying...

gobo

11-14-2008, 02:57 PM

It's absolutely a spoiler. If you're expecting something from the comic to be in the movie and it's confirmed not to be, then it's spoiling.

I don't personally give a crap, but it's definitely spoiling.

cam-

11-14-2008, 03:15 PM

Hmm, I suppose from that perspective it is, but if it's confirmed from multiple sources does it not fall under the "Pre-release hype" banner? Seems like at that point if you're worried about spoilers you should be avoiding the thread to begin with.

I mean, I haven't seen the movie either, maybe it's all lies and it IS in there.

Anyways I'll leave it at that. Hey, at least I can admit when I'm wrong.

cammyknoxville

11-16-2008, 06:37 PM

Interesting article in the Los Angeles Times about the studio war currently going on over the film.

Can be found here. (http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/movies/la-ca-watchmen16-2008nov16,0,5337353.story)

racemccloud

11-16-2008, 07:00 PM

racemccloud

11-18-2008, 05:52 AM

So I'm reading "Watchmen" again... second time. The first time I read it, I was a little "meh" on it. I thought it was good, but didn't live up to the hype. So now I'm 5 chapters in on read #2.

Oh, I see. It's goddamn brilliant.

It's not necessarily my chosen style of storytelling, but the craft behind the art and (especially) the writing... it is indeed brilliant.

This time around, the hype doesn't live up to the book.

So my suggestion to those of you reading "Watchmen" for the first time through in preparation for the film?

Take your time with it. Don't rush it. Read every word, look at every panel.

Then do it again.

Totally worth it.

(Although leaving out "The Black Freighter" is the right call. And it's not "unfilmable". That's silly.)

esophagus

11-18-2008, 06:05 AM

Then do it again.This is key. My adivce on what you should make sure you do the first time you read Watchmen? Make sure you already read it a few years prior.

Always better the second time around. And third. And fourth.

racemccloud

11-18-2008, 06:07 AM

My adivce on what you should make sure you do the first time you read Watchmen? Make sure you already read it a few years prior.

See, now you sound like Dr. Manhattan.

cammyknoxville

12-25-2008, 12:08 PM

Judge Says Fox Owns Rights to a Warner Movie (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/25/business/media/25fox.html?ei=5124&en=5ccf7428af49e8f5&ex=1387861200&adxnnl=1&partner=digg&exprod=digg&adxnnlx=1230210179-rVmJGqh3DcR4SR0uNOmm/Q)

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-

thenextchampion

12-25-2008, 05:17 PM

gungadin

12-25-2008, 09:10 PM

So what.....this means it's never gonna get released?

Fox is claiming rights. They know it's a cash cow, they're going to try to take the movie or at least stop it from getting released. It's not new news, but Fox is basically just being a dick... again...

conorkilpatrick

12-25-2008, 09:15 PM

Fox is claiming rights. They know it's a cash cow, they're going to try to take the movie or at least stop it from getting released.

I don't think they are actually trying to stop it from being released, they want a piece of the action. If it doesn't get released they won't get any money.

It's not new news, but Fox is basically just being a dick... again...

The judge says they legally own rights to the movie so they're not being dicks, they are acting within their legal rights.

gungadin

12-25-2008, 10:23 PM

The judge says they legally own rights to the movie so they're not being dicks, they are acting within their legal rights.

I call them dicks for not acting sooner. They waited until it was shot and in post before making their move. Lame times.

the-comedian

12-26-2008, 07:35 AM

I knew I'd find a Watchmen thread on this site somewhere. I just heard the news today about the judge's ruling. I don't think the court case should really affect us, the audience, in any way. The movie's still planned to be released on the same date and everything.

cammyknoxville

12-26-2008, 07:52 PM

If anything it's a unpleasant reminder why I boycott anything FOX.

thenextchampion

12-27-2008, 05:23 AM

I call them dicks for not acting sooner. They waited until it was shot and in post before making their move. Lame times.

Yeah it is a dickish move. I mean I know this lawsuit has been ongoing but considering FOX is doing this so close to release date...it's just childish. They could've done this so much earlier but when FOX realise comic book films are 'in' right now, they had to get the rights sooner then later.

Dicks.

thenextchampion

12-30-2008, 03:48 AM

DAMMMMMMMMMNNNNNNNIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081230/ap_en_mo/film_watchmen_suit

(headline)
Fox says it will try to stop 'Watchmen'

voodoomama

12-30-2008, 04:10 AM

http://perezhilton.com/2008-12-29-its-war-watchmen-production-obstacles-may-be-prolonged-fox-to-squash-film

leave me alone yes I read this site but i really hope the who knows if it will see its release date bs is just hype

cammyknoxville

12-31-2008, 05:49 AM

I wonder how FOX will feel when a boycott is encouraged by the fans. I'd love to see every single fan boycott the upcoming Wolverine film, but I know that'd be unrealistic.

But think how cool it would be if we did. THAT would send a message.

gobo

12-31-2008, 12:38 PM

If anything we should boycott WB for being a bunch of total morons and fucking this up for us.

gobo

01-02-2009, 03:58 AM

Watchmen (Of course FOX could change all of that if they delay it....lousy bastards)

WB's fault entirely.

scoobydiesel

01-02-2009, 07:41 AM

I got the issuse's in good condish for my birthday from my friends...it was an awesome gift i was very shocked.

gabeja

01-02-2009, 04:43 PM

I got the issuse's in good condish for my birthday from my friends...it was an awesome gift i was very shocked.

I got issues three and 7 for xmas. It made me happy.

If fox does delay this movie, lets try to boycott wolverines opening day. Comon, we can do it!

conorkilpatrick

01-02-2009, 05:03 PM

I got issues three and 7 for xmas. It made me happy.

If fox does delay this movie, lets try to boycott wolverines opening day. Comon, we can do it!

Why on earth would we want to do that?

gobo

01-02-2009, 07:11 PM

Why on earth would we want to do that?

Because people are foolishly blaming Fox for not letting WB make a boatload of money with Fox's intellectual property.

gabeja

01-02-2009, 07:27 PM

Because people are foolishly blaming Fox for not letting WB make a boatload of money with Fox's intellectual property.

I don't know who is in the right, and I don't particularly care. I just want this fucking movie to come out on time, and someone said that that might help. I am sorry.

sarahg42

01-02-2009, 08:28 PM

Because people are foolishly blaming Fox for not letting WB make a boatload of money with Fox's intellectual property.

To be fair, FOX dropped the ball (as usual)... and didn't give a stink about this property till they saw it would make money. *shrugs*

conorkilpatrick

01-02-2009, 08:37 PM

To be fair, FOX dropped the ball (as usual)... and didn't give a stink about this property till they saw it would make money. *shrugs*

That's how business works, though. It doesn't change the fact that, apparently according to one judge, they have some legal claim to the film. And also this litigation has been going on for a long time. It's not like Fox just chose to sue last month.

sarahg42

01-02-2009, 08:47 PM

That's how business works, though. It doesn't change the fact that, apparently according to one judge, they have some legal claim to the film. And also this litigation has been going on for a long time. It's not like Fox just chose to sue last month.

True enough. But they did wait to sue until after the film had been in production --- for some time. I'm just sayin they are easy to get annoyed with. I mean, if they have legal rights to the film, they should receive some compensation... but talk about being late to the game. Ah Fox, so easy to hate.

conorkilpatrick

01-02-2009, 08:48 PM

True enough. But they did wait to sue until after the film had been in production --- for some time. I'm just sayin they are easy to get annoyed with. I mean, if they have legal rights to the film, they should receive some compensation... but talk about being late to the game. Ah Fox, so easy to hate.

We'll have to disagree. The wheels of business turn slowly, especially in legal matters.

sarahg42

01-02-2009, 08:50 PM

We'll have to disagree. The wheels of business turn slowly, especially in legal matters.

Meh, it depends on who is manning the wheel. *shrugs* And how could you disagree with Fox being easy to hate? :p

scoobydiesel

01-02-2009, 08:52 PM

I just want to see the movie...I really hope they have their battle behind the scene's and just give us the film to enjoy. and let it make money so when they are done with whatever battles they have...people can get some cash.

gobo

01-02-2009, 09:17 PM

True enough. But they did wait to sue until after the film had been in production --- for some time. I'm just sayin they are easy to get annoyed with. I mean, if they have legal rights to the film, they should receive some compensation... but talk about being late to the game. Ah Fox, so easy to hate.

Actually Fox told them about this BEFORE the movie started production. There was just an article recently about it where it came out that WB pressed on anyway even though they had been warned.

sarahg42

01-02-2009, 09:19 PM

Actually Fox told them about this BEFORE the movie started production. There was just an article recently about it where it came out that WB pressed on anyway even though they had been warned.

Somehow I missed that piece of news. Link to the article? (Still doesn't make Fox any less easy to hate :p LOL)

gobo

01-02-2009, 10:06 PM

But as EW subsequently reported, Fox’s lawyers did contact Warner Bros. prior to Watchmen's production with the goal of resolving the matter and allowing Warner Bros. to roll film with a clear conscience -- albeit one purchased, no doubt, at great expense.

http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2008/12/judge-in-watchm.html?cnn=yes

gabeja

01-02-2009, 10:15 PM

Basically, my viewpoint is I want to see this movie. It seems that fox is trying to prevent me from seeing this. Therefor, fox=bad

conorkilpatrick

01-02-2009, 10:19 PM

Basically, my viewpoint is I want to see this movie. It seems that fox is trying to prevent me from seeing this. Therefor, fox=bad

It's a tad more complex of an issue than that. This is about copyrights.

gabeja

01-02-2009, 10:21 PM

It's a tad more complex of an issue than that. This is about copyrights.

I'm sure it is, for all I know, fox has every right to be doing what they are doing, I just don't really care. it seems that they are trying to delay the movie.

gobo

01-02-2009, 11:10 PM

It's WB's fault for not settling it before they started. If you want to be mad at anyone, be mad at the WB for being totally incompetent.

sarahg42

01-03-2009, 12:18 AM

http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2008/12/judge-in-watchm.html?cnn=yes

Thanks! Hrm, don't know how I missed that article. It does make a difference if they have been dealing with this from the get go... (however it still does not make Fox any less evil :D )

sarahg42

01-03-2009, 12:20 AM

It's WB's fault for not settling it before they started. If you want to be mad at anyone, be mad at the WB for being totally incompetent.

True enough. Though I am sure at this point there is a laundry list of people to blame. LOL

Hopefully they will settle it before the release date.

mikegraham6

01-07-2009, 12:43 PM

Has anyone seen the Japanese Watchmen trailer? It is sooooo much better then then second American one!
This has been a rollercoaster ride for me. With every thing i see/hear about this movie, ive gone from angry to slightly interested to angry again and now back to slightly interest.
There seems to be more original scenes in this trailer then i would have thought (more Nixon, Castro, extended Kennedy sequence). Maybe it won't be an EXACT adaptation afterall. i'd prefer this because an exact adaption that doesn't contain everything would just disappoint me anyhow.

what do you guys think? still a trainwreck waiting to happen?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgOY0p67bvw

cam-

01-07-2009, 02:58 PM

what do you guys think? still a trainwreck waiting to happen?

I don't know the more I see of it the more I think Zack done right by it.

I think I might fall in love with the Silk Spectre, that could be a problem.

And out of costume Night Owl looks great, so there's that...

sarahg42

01-07-2009, 05:04 PM

I don't know the more I see of it the more I think Zack done right by it.

I think I might fall in love with the Silk Spectre, that could be a problem.

And out of costume Night Owl looks great, so there's that...

It's funny. The Silk Spectre is the one character I think he may have gotten a bit wrong. Of course I will wait and see... but something seems off about her to me in all the trailers/previews/etc.

racemccloud

01-07-2009, 07:45 PM

For those who care about such things, "Tales of the Black Freighter", the direct-to-DVD adaptation of the comic-within-a-comic from "Watchmen", has been rated "R" by the MPAA for "violent and grisly images".

gabeja

01-08-2009, 03:58 AM

That's great stuff, maybe conor will see the movie version of the pirate story....

cammyknoxville

01-08-2009, 05:18 AM

Video of the Minutemen (http://www.firstshowing.net/2009/01/06/watchmen-video-journal-the-minutemen/)

Soooo good!!

thenextchampion

01-08-2009, 06:15 AM

Video of the Minutemen (http://www.firstshowing.net/2009/01/06/watchmen-video-journal-the-minutemen/)

Soooo good!!

Wow, they are really going into detail with this film. This is just for a photo for character to have lying in their rooms and just look at what the detail is. The costumes, the set peice, I bet even the hairstyles are all referencing the actual photo. Again this isnt even for a scene for the film technically, it's just for a photo.....This film is gonna be great at a technical level I can say that much.

conorkilpatrick

01-09-2009, 07:32 PM

Attorneys: 'Watchmen' settlement talks productive (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090109/ap_en_ot/watchmen_movie_lawsuit;_ylt=AmAKmiRnbP01InzuXIYSC. pxFb8C)

LOS ANGELES – Moviegoers may get to watch the "Watchmen" after all.

Attorneys for rival studios fighting over the release of the superhero flick told a federal judge on Friday that they're having fruitful settlement talks.

Attorneys for 20th Century Fox and Warner Bros. asked the judge to delay a hearing Friday so those discussions can continue over the weekend.

U.S. District Judge Gary Allen Feess agreed to continue the hearing but says a trial over whether to block the film's March release is still set for Jan. 20.

Lou Karasik, who is representing Fox, told Feess that the delay would be "very, very helpful" to settlement discussions he deemed "productive."

Friday's revelation surprised Feess, who noted that Warner Bros. had been seeking to move up the Jan. 20 trial to next week, citing the film's marketing campaign and its March 6 release date.

More in link.

conorkilpatrick

01-15-2009, 11:59 PM

Watchmen Foes Eyeing a Settlement (http://news.yahoo.com/s/eonline/20090115/en_movies_eo/79232;_ylt=AphjryhLWz2I2P2rfGlz8GZxFb8C)

Los Angeles (E! Online) – All we can ask for is that, at the end of all this, we get to see Watchmen sometime this year.

Lawyers for Warner Bros., which made the highly anticipated film, and 20th Century Fox—which has a major problem with that—filed court documents Wednesday indicating the two sides are close to resolving their differences without going to trial.

According to a joint settlement notice filed in Los Angeles Superior Court, "the parties are continuing to address a few remaining settlement issues" but are confident that a trial (otherwise scheduled to begin Tuesday) won't be necessary to determine whether Warner Bros. has the right to release Watchmen despite the fact that Fox held the film-distribution rights for nearly 10 years before producer Larry Gordon brought it to the other studio.

The warring factions also requested that a hearing be held in chambers tomorrow to hammer out a few sticking points.

More in link.

esophagus

01-17-2009, 04:20 AM

WB, Fox make deal for 'Watchmen' (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117998665.html?categoryid=13&cs=1)

Warner Bros. gets the right to open its superhero pic on March 6 as planned, and Fox's logo will not be on the film, sources said.

Fox, on the other hand, will emerge with an upfront cash payment that sources pegged between $5 million and $10 million, covering reimbursement of $1.4 million the studio invested in development fees, and also millions of dollars in legal fees incurred during the case.

More importantly, Fox will get a gross participation in "Watchmen" that scales between 5% and 8.5%, depending on the film’s worldwide revenues. Fox also participates as a gross player in any sequels and spinoffs, sources said.

A joint statement said, "Warner Bros. and Twentieth Century Fox have resolved their dispute regarding the rights to the upcoming motion picture "Watchmen" in a confidential settlement. Warner Bros. acknowledges that Fox acted in good faith in bringing its claims, which were asserted prior to the start of principal photography.

MORE IN LINK.

gabeja

01-17-2009, 07:21 AM

That article provided both great news, and terrible news. Sequals??? Spinoffs???/ What the fuck guys???

conorkilpatrick

01-17-2009, 08:26 AM

That article provided both great news, and terrible news. Sequals??? Spinoffs???/ What the fuck guys???

That's standard. They want to protect themselves, contractually, against anything that could possibly happen.

esophagus

01-17-2009, 08:26 AM

That article provided both great news, and terrible news. Sequals??? Spinoffs???/ What the fuck guys???
It doesn't say that sequels will be made, or are even planning to be made, it just says that if there were any that WB would have to let Fox in on it.

I think the most crucial part is this:Warner Bros. acknowledges that Fox acted in good faith in bringing its claims, which were asserted prior to the start of principal photography.

Edit: What Conor said.

cenquist

01-26-2009, 01:31 AM

Ted Phillips Reports on Dr. Manhattan (http://storiesinmedium.blogspot.com/2009/01/ted-philips-reports-on-dr-manhattan.html) not sure if this is a scene from the movie or just footage for the web.

cenquist

02-05-2009, 12:34 PM

The Keene Act (http://tinyurl.com/8waqaz), what the government wants YOU to do about it.

racemccloud

02-06-2009, 06:44 AM

The Keene Act (http://tinyurl.com/8waqaz), what the government wants YOU to do about it.

You know, I'm really impressed with the Warner's ad campaign for "Watchmen". It's very immersive, much like the "Dark Knight" ad campaign was until Heath Ledger's death (at which point the ad campaign for "Dark Knight" became noticeably muted, for the sake of tactfulness. An appropriate measure given the circumstances.)

Still, thumbs up to Warner's for the "Watchmen" machine they've set in motion.

racemccloud

02-06-2009, 06:45 AM

That article provided both great news, and terrible news. Sequals??? Spinoffs???/ What the fuck guys???

I would imagine that there is language regarding sequels and spin-offs in the paperwork for just about every studio production.

sugarsickness

02-06-2009, 03:47 PM

though isnt going to be or there is currently set to be a prequel videogame? ><

racemccloud

02-06-2009, 09:14 PM

though isnt going to be or there is currently set to be a prequel videogame? ><

Yes, there is. I don't think that "counts", though, as far as a continuation of the "Watchmen" story is concerned. I would imagine that's more of a "we'd like to make a game that the fans will like (and buy), but it's impossible to turn 'Watchmen' into a satisfying gaming experience so let's make a prequel game". You know? A "prequel" video game doesn't have the same impact that a spin-off, sequel or prequel film would.

kndoubleu

02-06-2009, 09:25 PM

make the video game about pirates.

thenextchampion

02-07-2009, 12:15 AM

sugarsickness

02-07-2009, 01:26 AM

At my work today (Borders) we have advance copies of 'The Art of the Watchmen Film' or something along those lines. You know the set designs, sketches, some screen shots. Well I flipped threw it during my break and I have to say:

This film looks AMAZING!
Fuck! I used to work at a Borders (South California)... definitely loved being able to look through the books early. That's how I enjoyed Gibbons' Watchmen retrospective book first, on my break at work :P

Another expensive watchmen book I'll have to buy

thenextchampion

02-11-2009, 03:28 AM

Alright I bought the film companion book that I mentioned earlier. I read the whole thing and there is only one sentence that can describe my feelings for the film now.....excuse me if it's a bit childish......*clears throat*

HOLY SHIT! THIS FILM IS GONNA BE FUCKING HOT!!!!!!

I think that expresses my thoughts clearly enough.

esophagus

02-16-2009, 10:46 PM

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Tales of the Black Freighter trailer. I recommend watching the HD version.

tomanderson

02-17-2009, 03:15 PM

Love the Black Freighter trailer. I'm pumped for this film man, only 2 weeks away!

sugarsickness

02-17-2009, 09:16 PM

trailer seems cool. Can't wait.

Should I order midnight tickets now? I don't even know how to do that!

optimus187prime

02-17-2009, 10:50 PM

So who is catching this in IMAX? I know I am King of Prussia here I come.

conorkilpatrick

02-19-2009, 02:22 AM

Watchmen to Run 3 Hours and 25 Minutes on DVD (http://www.movieweb.com/news/NEj0Ookrd3eKmj)

While his latest film extravaganza won't even hit theaters for a few more weeks, director Zack Snyder has already revealed what to expect on the DVD. Collider spoke with Watchmen director Zack Snyder today at the press junket for the film, where he revealed that there will be some extended goodies in store on the DVD.

While the theatrical release of Watchmen is about 2 hours 36 minutes, Zack just told me the DVD/Blu-ray will have two versions to appease the fans that wanted more.

There will be a director's cut on the DVD that will be 3 hours 10 minutes and another cut with Tales of the Black Freighter that will be 3 hours 25 minutes!

thenextchampion

02-19-2009, 02:25 AM

conorkilpatrick

02-19-2009, 02:34 AM

In short: The longer, more deluxe DVD will be too expensive for you!!!!

Why ?

thenextchampion

02-19-2009, 03:31 AM

Why ?

I'm talking about myself....usually something like this sounds mighty expensive.

Especially if you have a bad paying job like me. (Working at a book store has it's pro's....but a lot of cons as well)

sugarsickness

02-19-2009, 05:40 AM

esophagus

02-19-2009, 05:50 AM

that sounds beautiful to me.

Although Tales of the Black Freighter is only 15 minutes? :(I doubt it. In Watchmen (the book) you don't get to read the full Black Freighter comic you just get random snippets that relate to the story as it goes on. I'm guessing it is just spliced in. The full story will be on the separate DVD.

That is my guess anyways.

sugarsickness

02-19-2009, 06:12 AM

I doubt it. In Watchmen (the book) you don't get to read the full Black Freighter comic you just get random snippets that relate to the story as it goes on. I'm guessing it is just spliced in. The full story will be on the separate DVD.

That is my guess anyways.
I would say that sounds about right, I forgot about the Freighter getting it's own DVD release.

conorkilpatrick

02-19-2009, 06:15 AM

On the DVD, the full Black Freighter material is 26 minutes long. The Under the Hood material is 38 minutes.

esophagus

02-19-2009, 06:53 AM

sugarsickness

02-19-2009, 07:01 AM

Part of me almost wants to hold out so my first experience with the movie is with the full 3 and a half hours, but I couldn't handle not being a part of the discussions it will no doubt start when it is first released.

I feel exactly the same way, which means I'll see it in theaters and then buy both the Watchmen DVD and the Black Freighter DVD and cry because I'm broke.

I just can't believe we are only, what, three weeks away? Two? Holy moly.

optimus187prime

02-19-2009, 03:07 PM

I have been reading two issues of Watchmen a day leading up the the release of the film and man 'o' man is it getting me hyped. Everytime I hear "The Beginning is the End is the Beginning" I get the chills. This is shocking considering how much I didnt care for the book the first time around. Well I guess I might be a convert, now I just need the scratch to get the Absolute version.

racemccloud

02-23-2009, 04:50 AM

There's a clip on AICN of Night Owl and Silk Spectre in the prison riot scene... it's hella cool. Check it out here. (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/40200)

thenextchampion

02-23-2009, 05:23 AM

racemccloud

02-25-2009, 05:08 AM

Does this make me a bad person?

I'm forcing my sister to watch yet another comic film. I forced her to watch X-3, I forced her to watch The Dark Knight....now I gotta force her to watch Watchmen with me. She tells me I have to watch Dreamgirls and Twilight in order to be forgiven.

Dreamgirls, yes. Twilight, no.

But then again, I'm a theatre geek. The Twilight books are romance novels for 'tween girls. i refuse. I refuse, I say!

tad

02-25-2009, 05:17 AM

A WB Studio exec has already been quoted to the effect that they're re-examining all their superhero properties in the wake of the huge box office grosses for The Dark Knight. He said they'd be looking for "darker" treatments.

So let's say the Watchmen movie, based on a classic work of superhero deconstruction, is a huge success. Will all superhero movies suddenly need to take a darker, grittier turn? Iron Man was a great, fun movie. There was already talk of including the character's alcoholism in a future movie.

Will we be able to have fun and the hero flicks anymore?

racemccloud

02-25-2009, 05:33 AM

Hollywood trends towards whatever it is the perceive made "the big hit" BECOME "the big hit". In this case, that means "dark and gritty" for Warners. You almost can't blame them, what with the big pile o' green that "The Dark Knight" raked in.

But I don't think this is going to ruin comic book movies. Another executive can just point to the big pile o' green that the lighter-toned "Iron Man" raked in, proving in one summer that there is room for both the dark and the light in comic book/superhero flicks. As long as the story is well told and the picture is well made, the "tone" is secondary.

And remember, the comics industry is guilty of following the carrot, too. Remember the 90's? When antiheroes and shoulderpads were popping up all over the place because of the smash successes of "X-Force" and "Lobo"?

So unless you think the "Watchmen" graphic novel ruined comics, I don't think you can make the case for the "Watchmen" movie ruining comic book movies. But as with all prognostications, I suppose we'll just have to wait and see.

tad

02-25-2009, 07:12 AM

Well, I overstated to create conversation but I was definitely thinking of the 90s in comics. Not the pouches and Image revolution but the grim and grittiness that pervaded comics after The Dark Knight Returns and Watchmen.

I suppose there are those who think that those comics did "ruin" the industry by robbing of its innocence. There was certainly a copycat over reaction. But it led to more complex storytelling.

What "lessons" will Hollywood take away? I'm thinking the surface ones.

kndoubleu

02-26-2009, 10:44 PM

Bendis is comparing the relative silence since the first Watchmen screenings to the relative silence after the first The Spirit screenings. Agree/disagree?

thenextchampion

02-27-2009, 02:48 AM

Bendis is comparing the relative silence since the first Watchmen screenings to the relative silence after the first The Spirit screenings. Agree/disagree?

How does he mean silence? Like, no one is really talking anything good about the film silence....or this is so bad we're gonna ease up on advertisements silence?

Cause I have seen some early reviews (there's a great one on newsarama....but for spoilers I wont post the link) and they said it's a great film. Well it's flawed but still pretty damn good. Plus apparently the reviews in the U.K. have been mostly positive as well.

racemccloud

02-27-2009, 03:32 AM

I agree. Every advance screening review I've heard/read has been overwhelmingly positive. I mean, "The Spirit" looked like an absolute mess from the second trailer on. (I actually liked the noir-ish teaser.)

voi666

02-27-2009, 08:07 AM

first review is in (they really don't like it) -> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/film-reviews/film-review-watchmen-1003945726.story

esophagus

02-27-2009, 03:14 PM

first review is in (they really don't like it) -> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/film-reviews/film-review-watchmen-1003945726.storyThats not the first review.

racemccloud

02-27-2009, 03:33 PM

What COULD be interesting is, pre-buzz about how faithful Snyder has remained to the original book has geeks everywhere salivating.

However, what works in one medium doesn't always work in another.

Could it be that a straight, faithful translation of "Watchmen" isn't going to work on the big screen?

The one thing that stood out to me in the "Hollywood Reporter" review was the criticism of Rorshach's VO. For example, maybe that narration, though very cool on the printed page, become overbearing as a VO.

This could get interesting...

hank41

02-27-2009, 04:23 PM

just got my IMAX tickets for friday

thenextchampion

02-27-2009, 04:53 PM

Well newsarama's review said that everyone was great in the film....except for the guy who did Ozymadias.

Apparently he doesnt know how to emote, so it's tough to make him a believable character. They also said it's gonna take us awhile to get use to Dr. Manhattan...he isnt bad, but his mono voice is something to get used to.

Other then that they said the acting was great. Plus they said that even if some of the scenes from the book are taken out, this is about as close to a faithful adaptation your gonna get. So it's interesting to see these two sides of the critics about the film.

sugarsickness

02-27-2009, 09:19 PM

first review is in (they really don't like it) -> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/film-reviews/film-review-watchmen-1003945726.story

"The thing is, these aren't so much superheroes as ordinary human beings with, let us say, comic-book martial arts prowess."

The reason the few negative reviews I've read don't diminish my excitement for the film.

I will be picking up my midnight IMAX tickets in about thirty minutes.

racemccloud

02-28-2009, 02:37 AM

"The thing is, these aren't so much superheroes as ordinary human beings with, let us say, comic-book martial arts prowess."

You know, that always bugged me a little bit about the graphic novel, too.

the-mangaman

02-28-2009, 06:42 AM

Not me! ^^ I like it. I hope it doesn't disappoint because i DON'T want to have my head in my hands like Ron back at the X-3 podcast.

the-solitary

02-28-2009, 04:09 PM

Managed to get a ticket for the local cinema just before midnight this thursday (Opens on friday in the UK), and I can't wait to get there - been looking forward to this for so long!

The only thing that disconcerts me however is that I intially planned to see this at the local Imax, after having seen the trailer when I saw Dark Knight. I logged on a few nights ago to book tickets but could see no sign of Watchmen. Thinking they simply hadn't updtaed their site I called the box office only to be told that they had cancelled plans to show Watchmen as the distributor was asking for far too much money, compared to previous films. Has anyone else heard of this?

six-gun

02-28-2009, 05:55 PM

Will we be able to have fun and the hero flicks anymore?

Have we had that many? Since the resurgence of the Superhero movie with X-Men and Spider-Man, the good ones have been fairly dark really, Iron Man is really an exception because it's not.

miyamotofreak

03-01-2009, 04:27 AM

I went to the Watchmen panel which showed quite a bit of footage. You can look up my post history for how much I didn't want this to happen. But I REALLY liked what I saw. Visually, it's a tour de force. A bit too much action for my liking BUT it's really good action.
EDIT: The audio work was amazing as well. Snyder gets a ton of shit for the "visionary director" nonsense but that man is good. I want his DKR and I want it now.

cam-

03-03-2009, 08:42 PM

Just bought my IMAX tickets for Saturday night, it's not opening day, but it's close!

(IMAX was sold out for friday)

thenextchampion

03-03-2009, 08:52 PM

I got my tickets for Friday at 10:30pm

So expect some very bizarre rantings at around 2-3am in the morning....cause once it ends I have to talk about it afterwords.

sugarsickness

03-04-2009, 01:33 AM

So is it gonna be crowded? I mean, I kind of assume it will be. I've got opening night tickets, any thoughts on when I should be at the theater? :<

deadspace

03-04-2009, 02:01 AM

Dave Gibbons is doing a signing at my local borders in a couple of weeks. Taking down my absolute! :D

sugarsickness

03-04-2009, 02:25 AM

Dave Gibbons is doing a signing at my local borders in a couple of weeks. Taking down my absolute! :D

That wouldnt happen to be a southern california borders would it? :<

deadspace

03-04-2009, 04:10 AM

That wouldnt happen to be a southern california borders would it? :<

close. a scottish borders :D

sugarsickness

03-04-2009, 04:12 AM

close. a scottish borders :D

It's ok, I asked knowing the answer already.

Gibbons why won't you let me show you how much I love you!

mrlogical

03-05-2009, 12:18 PM

Slate chimes in with a discussion of Watchmen the comic, and how it was a failure because comics suck: http://www.slate.com/id/2212884

Basically the article's contention is that Watchmen inspired too much "darkness", angsty heroes and brutal deaths, but that the lesson that comics should have learned from Watchmen was that non-hero characters are the most interesting, citing the kid at the newsstand and Rorschach's therapist as examples. Was the kid at the newsstand really interesting? Like, at all? Certainly the point is well taken that Watchmen may have inspired too many comics about bitter, violent people, but a)I don't think it's true about Watchmen that it was good because of the random background characters and b)I don't think it's accurate to say that there aren't good comics out there about non-heroic normal people.

thenextchampion

03-06-2009, 01:53 AM

This is the point where I am getting nervous on watching this film.

It happened with Iron Man, then Dark Knight, now it's happening here. I really am hoping this is at least a good film, cause I am going to be so disappointed if it isnt. I've been surprised before on this nervousness, like Spider-Man totally blew my expectations out the door when it first came out. I certainly hope this could be the case here....But after reading some recent 'meh' reviews on the internet (IGN posted a meh review and on rottentomatoes.com the rating is 63% for all critics right now) I am nervous about this.

Anyone else feeling the same? Last minute or last day jitters?

deadspace

03-06-2009, 02:03 AM

It's weird but I'm not bothered if the film turns out to be 'meh'. Obviously I'm hoping it's great but if it's not... *shrug*

Can't believe how crazy the merch has gone though. You can get watchmen everything.

thenextchampion

03-06-2009, 02:50 AM

I know this is a stupid question, but is the Rorschach mask possible in any stretch of the imagination?

It sounds simple enough, put any type of liquid between two peices of fabric and you got a free flowing form to shape. I think where it becomes unbelievable is that Kovac's faces make new expressions. I'm sorry but I dont know how a butterfly shape expressives his opinion....unless he is stretching his face out.

But I would love to see if something like that is possible.

paper

03-06-2009, 02:53 AM

I feel like you wouldn't be able to breathe in such a mask. The cloth needs to be porous enough to allow air flow, but it also needs to retain the liquid/gel between layers.

gobo

03-06-2009, 02:55 AM

Who cares if it's possible in real life?

thenextchampion

03-06-2009, 03:00 AM

Who cares if it's possible in real life?

I'm sorry I just thought it was curious we havent seen anything like that. It doesnt sound too impossible to conceive or to make. Although paper is right, there doesnt look to be much room for breathing or for seeing.

I'm just shocked I havent seen video on youtube or at least a picture of someone making the mask. That's all.