'Transformers'

[horatio616]

I was over at the forums on comingsoon.net cracking up at the 80s babies crying about the changes they've made in order to make The Transformers. Me, I'm a big TF fan myself, having seen the animated TF movie at least 30 times, and owning about 8 variations of Optimus, but all this whining makes me laugh. Then again, I usually don't get up-in-arms when movie adaptations are made. I think it's just silly.

My girlfriend bet me that TF won't break 80 million the first weekend. I took the bet, telling her she's greatly underestimated the TFnation! I'd better win the bet, if not she gets to... dress me.

[kwok_talk]

I was over at the forums on comingsoon.net cracking up at the 80s babies crying about the changes they've made in order to make The Transformers. Me, I'm a big TF fan myself, having seen the animated TF movie at least 30 times, and owning about 8 variations of Optimus, but all this whining makes me laugh. Then again, I usually don't get up-in-arms when movie adaptations are made. I think it's just silly.

My girlfriend bet me that TF won't break 80 million the first weekend. I took the bet, telling her she's greatly underestimated the TFnation! I'd better win the bet, if not she gets to... dress me.

I’ve carried an opinion probably closer to the whiners you speak of. (Bumblebee isn’t a yellow VW bug? Xbox and ipod transformers?) I think I’m not really all that excited, but that might also be because there hasn’t been too much actual movie footage released it seems.

As for the bet, best of luck. What do you get if you win?

What kind of “dressing” will you potentially be getting? Will be hear about some dude wearing only an adult diaper getting tazered by the cops on the news?

[DarrOn]

R-Rated Transformers? (http://www.joblo.com/r-rated-transformers)

[horatio616]

Yeah, I'd read that the action was so "intense" that they got an "R". Good thing they've got Spielberg in their corner!

[horatio616]

I’ve carried an opinion probably closer to the whiners you speak of. (Bumblebee isn’t a yellow VW bug? Xbox and ipod transformers?) I think I’m not really all that excited, but that might also be because there hasn’t been too much actual movie footage released it seems.

As for the bet, best of luck. What do you get if you win?

What kind of “dressing” will you potentially be getting? Will be hear about some dude wearing only an adult diaper getting tazered by the cops on the news?

I'm not sure what I get yet. Maybe I'll get to dress her.

What she dresses me in I have to wear in public, so it probably won't be full drag. I'm going to guess and say it will involve this tight fitting pink My Little Pony tee she tried to get me to wear once.

[xyzzy]

I'm definitely a child of the 80s and I hold Transformers near and dear to my heart. But it doesn't bother me at all that they're switching things up for the movie. If it's good, I'll love it. If it's bad, I'll pretend like it never happened (like so much of the TF cartoons that have come and gone. Minicons? What the ****?).

On a related note, the recent line of TF Classic deluxe toys were pretty good. I mean, they aren't Masterpiece leve, obviously, but for the cost, well worth it, in my opinion. Can't wait for MP Megatron, even if he's going to have a stupid orange cap on the muzzle.

[horatio616]

I'm definitely a child of the 80s and I hold Transformers near and dear to my heart. But it doesn't bother me at all that they're switching things up for the movie. If it's good, I'll love it. If it's bad, I'll pretend like it never happened (like so much of the TF cartoons that have come and gone. Minicons? What the ****?).

On a related note, the recent line of TF Classic deluxe toys were pretty good. I mean, they aren't Masterpiece leve, obviously, but for the cost, well worth it, in my opinion. Can't wait for MP Megatron, even if he's going to have a stupid orange cap on the muzzle.

I managed to track down a Prowl and a Hot Rod, but no Prime. I had the original Megatron but treated him badly. Tossing him about and whatnot. I'd love a second chance. I swear I'll never hurt you again, Meg.

[JurassicAlien]

I'm looking forward to Transformers, because of the two possiblities.

A) It'll be the most expensive B-movie of all time, with things so bad you'll laugh so hard and want to watch it again and again, the kind of movie you making a drinking game out of.

or

B) It'll actually be AMAZING.

I'm hoping for one of the two, I don't want a "okay" film with no "So bad it's good quality"

[fred]

I'm pulling for option A

[DrWally]

As someone already versed in the Japanese classics as a younster that Transformers totally tried to rip off when it came out (with sucky animation) I was turned off instantly. Having said that, the current whiners should be locked in a jail cell and forced to watch the Transformers rip off:

Go-Bots. Now that is bottom of the barrel.

[xyzzy]

As someone already versed in the Japanese classics as a younster that Transformers totally tried to rip off when it came out (with sucky animation) I was turned off instantly. Having said that, the current whiners should be locked in a jail cell and forced to watch the Transformers rip off:

Go-Bots. Now that is bottom of the barrel.

I'd pay good money to see Optimus Prime beat the shit out of Leader One.

[comhcinc]

i don't really care one way or the other. i will tell you this though i never try to find out about a movie before it is released. it just spoils the fun for me.







the gobots rocked.

[DrWally]

I'd pay good money to see Optimus Prime beat the shit out of Leader One.

Barbarian heathen of the West...:p

[xyzzy]

Barbarian heathen of the West...:p

The only Japanese cartoons that I remember being on when I was a kid were Voltron (with the lions), which was okay, and Star Blazers, which was pretty damn cool. Oh, and Speed Racer, but that was crap.

[Luthor]

I think this movie is about 8 or 9 years too late. It should have been made around the time the Beast Wars(IMO, one of the best television shows of all time) cartoon ended. Since then the quality of the property has plummeted. One shitty cartoon followed by another, followed by another.

But then again, I'm a 30 year old man, so what do I know.

[DrWally]

the gobots rocked.

Except that they never opened their hands from fists poses, like the Transformers did -- hard to be threatening when you can't open a door

(And yes, that's a totally cheap gag I totally ripped off from somebody else)

[comhcinc]

Except that they never opened their hands from fists poses, like the Transformers did -- hard to be threatening when you can't open a door

(And yes, that's a totally cheap gag I totally ripped off from somebody else)

the gobots rocked because i was a poor child and my parents could not afford transformer toys.

kmart rocks too


oh and why do you need to open a door? you are a giant robot with lazer hands

[Jimski]

Normally, I would not get too upset; I hope I'm not inflaming too many passions when I suggest that a show that was born and died as a Hasbro toy line maybe didn't have a ton of artistic integrity to begin with.

(One rung up the nerd ladder, of course, someone is saying the same thing about the X-Men.)

In this case, though, there seem to have been so many changes made that you have to ask, "If you wanted to make a Transformers movie, why didn't you make a Transformers movie?" Presumably you're adapting an existing property in order to have a nostalgic built-in audience; why go out of your way to alienate that audience? It's not like there's anyone sitting in front of a word processor going, "I just feel really passionate about this new character arc for Wheeljack." Why not just leave it alone?

[DrWally]

The only Japanese cartoons that I remember being on when I was a kid were Voltron (with the lions), which was okay, and Star Blazers, which was pretty damn cool. Oh, and Speed Racer, but that was crap.

Spridle and Chim Chim? The original funny monkey character? X-Racer, the secret older brother who can't tell Speed who he really is because of all the Daddy Issues involved? Sparky? All I can say is this -- the original was gold, and all the other "updated" versions just "lost the plot." Those was crap.

Starblazers did rock. Don't forget G-Force, and oh god, don't get me started.... you'll have links to YouTube coming out your ears...Japanese catoons aleays had two things -- the ultra cool theme song at the beginning, and the "change into hero form" thing.

Luckily for me, by age 9 or so in about 1975, a new thing called "cable" was "test run" in my bay area town south of San Francisco, and I was entranced by the Sunday night 2 hours of programming for the Japanese American community, soon followed by the "second wave" of Japanese cartoons on all the local channels (Astro boy and Kimba first wave, Starblazers second wave, Sailor Moon the breaking of the damn and the floodwaters that followed.)

Go-Bots? Transformers? For once the Americans can accused of ripping off the Japanese, instead of the other way around...

[comhcinc]

http://jeannero.free.fr/dessins-animes/LesGobots.jpghey kids be sure to pick us up when you are at your local kmart. and don't forget the new rocklords line as well

[Mikegraham6]

only reason im seeing this movie is because the guy who voiced Optimus Prime is returning! AWESOME!

plus the trailer doesn't look that bad.....

[xyzzy]

Spridle and Chim Chim? The original funny monkey character? X-Racer, the secret older brother who can't tell Speed who he really is because of all the Daddy Issues involved? Sparky? All I can say is this -- the original was gold, and all the other "updated" versions just "lost the plot." Those was crap.

Starblazers did rock. Don't forget G-Force, and oh god, don't get me started.... you'll have links to YouTube coming out your ears...Japanese catoons aleays had two things -- the ultra cool theme song at the beginning, and the "change into hero form" thing.

Luckily for me, by age 9 or so in about 1975, a new thing called "cable" was "test run" in my bay area town south of San Francisco, and I was entranced by the Sunday night 2 hours of programming for the Japanese American community, soon followed by the "second wave" of Japanese cartoons on all the local channels (Astro boy and Kimba first wave, Starblazers second wave, Sailor Moon the breaking of the damn and the floodwaters that followed.)

Go-Bots? Transformers? For once the Americans can accused of ripping off the Japanese, instead of the other way around...

Oh, yeah. G-Force. I remember them with their little wings.

My understanding is that Transformers was actually a collection of toys cobbled together from a bunch of other lines.

I grew up in Hayward in the East Bay and I'm only a few years younger, so I'm sure I had access to the same stuff you did. I just didn't watch it, I guess.

[ConorKilpatrick]

only reason im seeing this movie is because the guy who voiced Optimus Prime is returning! AWESOME!

I would have categorically NOT seen the movie had Optimus's voice been anyone but Peter Cullen.

[Mikegraham6]

QUESTION: are starscream and soundwave in the flick (please say yes) and if so will they be voiced by the same people (please say yes again)

i just watched the 20th aniversary dvd the other day and while it was really lame at some points, it still has a hell of a lot of classic moments (the first and last 20 minutes are so damn good!) if this new movie is half as good as those 40 minutes then i'll be satisfied (i really don't have the high of expectations for it)

[xyzzy]

QUESTION: are starscream and soundwave in the flick (please say yes) and if so will they be voiced by the same people (please say yes again)

i just watched the 20th aniversary dvd the other day and while it was really lame at some points, it still has a hell of a lot of classic moments (the first and last 20 minutes are so damn good!) if this new movie is half as good as those 40 minutes then i'll be satisfied (i really don't have the high of expectations for it)

Starscream is in. Soundwave is out (due to the fact that they didn't want any size changing transformers in the movie). Different voices. But could you really tell with Soundwave, anyway?

[fred]

I'm primarily looking to see this movie so I can make fun of it.

[xyzzy]

Except that they never opened their hands from fists poses, like the Transformers did -- hard to be threatening when you can't open a door

(And yes, that's a totally cheap gag I totally ripped off from somebody else)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/chunkyrice/batman2026820d.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/chunkyrice/batman2026820e.jpg

[DrWally]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/chunkyrice/batman2026820d.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/chunkyrice/batman2026820e.jpg

See what I mean? Oh my goodness gracious, thank you so much for that...that is SOOO hilarious...

Do you remember Bob Wilkins, who tried surviving the demise of his wonderful Creature Features show (totally local Bay Area thing) with a daily show he did featuring Japanese stuff? There's the age test-- that few months difference in our ages makes all the difference. Speed Racer is really strange -- if people are just one year younger or even a few months, they don't get it, don't know it, whereas if you are exactly my age or a bit older, everyone loves it. OR maybe you're just an Evil Trial Lawyer, one never knows...

And yes, Transformers, like Go-Bots, were based on a line of toys, which were Americans copying a long time staple of Japanese animation -- the giant robot that changes into different forms. But done American style.

So, being exposed to so much Japanese stuff by the time Transformers came along by the time I was 14, and being the snotty little smart ass kid (unlike today when I am a big snotty smart ass adult), I just thought it's a marketing thing, they are ripping off Japanese stuff (giant robo presto change-o), and the animation is kind of... in comparison to... well, I found Transformers to be...we'll leave it at that. I think I watched maybe 5 minutes, rolled my eyes, and changed the channel.

And who am I to deny the love of something for purely nostaliga's sake? I have my own favorites, can't deny others their own... just don't expect a ton of kids these days to break down theatre doors to see Transformers... and Transformers is certainly going nowhere in Japan, so count that market out. TOTALLY straight to DVD.

Americans are getting much better at ripping off Anime. I just found out Puffy sings the theme song of Teen Titans. Wow, Puffy. Times have changed...

[CAM!]

Americans are getting much better at ripping off Anime. I just found out Puffy sings the theme song of Teen Titans. Wow, Puffy. Times have changed...

Ummm that's Puffy Amiyumi a J-pop band. Not Puff Daddy if that's what you were thinking.

[DrWally]

Ummm that's Puffy Amiyumi a J-pop band. Not Puff Daddy if that's what you were thinking.

Oh, CAM!, my dear friend, I live in Japan. The Puffy song is actually very different than their usual crap. It definitely shows signs of either Americans arranging the music so they sound like Shonen Knife (who never hit in Japan) or Japanese who arranged the music so they sound like Shonen Knife (who never hit in Japan).

I wouldn't know Puff Daddy if he pimp slapped me in the face...But Puffy sounds like Moring Musume, or a hundred other girl groups that are just tweeny bopper Onyanku Club clone spawns of a producer who cranks that crap out of the J-Pop factory machine, so he can finance his more interesting music that doesn't hit in Japan, like Shonen Knife or Pizzacato Five (also not known in Japan). The guy behind Pizzacato Five is a prime example.

A Japanese record producer have gone on record -- "Most J-pop crap I do for the domestic market is just crap I arrange so i can have money to do the really inventive music I enjoy."

Japanese anime songs stopped being good for me just prior to Gundam.

[CAM!]

Ah hah, that's what I get for not reading profiles.

My friend lives in Chiba, nifty. I think it's CHiba anyways.

[horatio616]

I think this movie is about 8 or 9 years too late. It should have been made around the time the Beast Wars(IMO, one of the best television shows of all time) cartoon ended. Since then the quality of the property has plummeted. One shitty cartoon followed by another, followed by another.

But then again, I'm a 30 year old man, so what do I know.

The Transformers are enjoying a resurgence, I think??

[DrWally]

Ah hah, that's what I get for not reading profiles.

My friend lives in Chiba, nifty. I think it's CHiba anyways.

Chiba is the county (or Prefecture) next door to Tokyo. Unless he's in the boondooks (Chiba is actually pretty big), he's probably in the "burbs" of Tokyo, right on edges of Tokyo where many live (Ichigaya, Funabashi, burb-a-bashi, etc.) I'm in Shinjuku right in the mean urban ugliness. If he's a honkey in the 12 million plus of Tokyo and connected sprawl, then that makes sense -- he can get cheap housing and commute to work in Tokyo pretty easily.

Horatio:
Tranformers? A resurgence? I saw an article that said that big movies from Hollywood now fall into basically two of three categories: remakes or comic book movies. Hollywood has recycled so much stuff in the remake category, they are probably getting pretty desperate...

But hey, if someone needs their transformer fix, who am I to get in the way of their pusher?

[The Screw on Aaron]

Check it out boys and girls The New Avengers and Transformers will be duking it out in a four-part mini series. http://comics.ign.com/articles/777/777126p1.html

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u220/Aaron33_photo/new-avengerstransformers-2007032904.jpg

I for one am really pumped about this, hopefully it will be really fun and not get to weird or complicated (I please:( ).

I really enjoyed the Transformers as a kid and not long ago started reading the original comics that were on sale in Forbidden Planet in London. I was surprised to find out that they were really quite good and it got me even more pumped about the film coming out.

[Mikegraham6]

i hate it when they do things like this........
why can't the two of them just be seperate????
and you know it will be bad. when are these things ever good?????

[ConorKilpatrick]

i hate it when they do things like this........
why can't the two of them just be seperate????
and you know it will be bad. when are these things ever good?????

I still have this one:

http://www.seibertron.com/images/comic/01/tmb/003.jpg

Take THAT, Megatron!

[Doctor Colossus]

Did anyone read the Transformers/ G.I.Joe crossover drawn by Jae Lee?
I can't find the trade anywhere since Dreamwave went under.

The artwork was amazing, and was a really fun reimagining of both series.
Giant Robots transforming into World War 2 era military vehicles was incredibly cool.

[AlexG]

Did anyone read the Transformers/ G.I.Joe crossover drawn by Jae Lee?
I can't find the trade anywhere since Dreamwave went under.

The artwork was amazing, and was a really fun reimagining of both series.
Giant Robots transforming into World War 2 era military vehicles was incredibly cool.

Hell yeah, got those issues when the came out way back when.

Good stuff. I've never seen a trade of that either. No luck tracking down issues on ebay?

[acomicbookgirl]

I still can't get over no Shockwave and Bumblebee as a Camaro and not a VWBug..

[AlexG]

I still can't get over no Shockwave and Bumblebee as a Camaro and not a VWBug..

That must have been a licensing deal with Chevy. Sort of renders the name "bumblebee" a bit meaningless.

Camaros always make me think of dude's with Porn mustaches.

[acomicbookgirl]

That must have been a licensing deal with Chevy. Sort of renders the name "bumblebee" a bit meaningless.

Camaros always make me think of dude's with Porn mustaches.

Apparently... Well, see my best friend gave me a Filipino take on it... See camaro in filipino means insect or somthing like that so technically they did exactly **** it up like that... ;) Grant it, I told him he wasn't the one who begged mommy for the cute litttle yellow bug at Toy's R Us years ago. I want the VW Bug and Shockwave... The only good thing going for the movie is the guy who did the voice of Optimus Prime is doing it for the movie.. Grant it, he's one only still around.. Oh well..

[kwok_talk]

I still haven't gotten around to seeing the old animated Transformers movie. From the sounds of the changes in the new movie, I think I'd rather see the old one first.

[Mikegraham6]

I still haven't gotten around to seeing the old animated Transformers movie. From the sounds of the changes in the new movie, I think I'd rather see the old one first.

if you like TF when you were a kid, you should check it out, its a classic. its has its fair share of cheesy moments ("you got the touch!") but it also has so great moments that still hold up today (mainly the beginning and the ending, the middle is pretty much a write off)

[ConorKilpatrick]

In 2000, I bought both the GI Joe and Transformers movies in a fit of nostalgia.

Seven years later I still have not made it through Transformers. It was a lot better in my memory. The beginning is good, yes, but it goes downhill and FAST, after that.

[Jimski]

It's hard to watch the beginning of the Transformers movie without cynicism. It's a complete massacre, and all one can think is, "Wow, they're junking all of the old toys and introducing must-have new ones... I mean, killing those beloved old characters."

[Mikegraham6]

In 2000, I bought both the GI Joe and Transformers movies in a fit of nostalgia.

Seven years later I still have not made it through Transformers. It was a lot better in my memory. The beginning is good, yes, but it goes downhill and FAST, after that.

so you think that the GI Joe flick holds up better? interesting, i never saw it as a kid, but i wastched it about 8 years back and felt it to be a lot cheesier. im not saying the TF movie is a masterpiece by any means but i can still watch it and enjoy some classic scenes.

It's hard to watch the beginning of the Transformers movie without cynicism. It's a complete massacre, and all one can think is, "Wow, they're junking all of the old toys and introducing must-have new ones... I mean, killing those beloved old characters."

now that i watch it, you can totally understand thats whats happening, but as a kid i couldn't believe what i was seeing. i remember thinking, since when did the decepticons lasers get so powerful and how did they improve their aim so much?

[Jimski]

now that i watch it, you can totally understand thats whats happening, but as a kid i couldn't believe what i was seeing. i remember thinking, since when did the decepticons lasers get so powerful and how did they improve their aim so much?

I mean, your favorite characters don't even get a parting line; some of them appear on the screen for the first time as laser fire is perforating their windshields. The entire original cast shows up to die, with maybe three exceptions. And grim deaths, too; the light in their eyes extinguished, smoke billowing from their heads... yeeeeg. Have fun at the matinee, kids!

[ConorKilpatrick]

so you think that the GI Joe flick holds up better? interesting, i never saw it as a kid, but i wastched it about 8 years back and felt it to be a lot cheesier. im not saying the TF movie is a masterpiece by any means but i can still watch it and enjoy some classic scenes.

I do. Even though I hated the whole "secret serpent society behind COBRA" thing and Cobra Commander turning into an actual snake and Falcon's shotgun firing lasers, I can watch GI Joe right now and enjoy it.

[Ekval]

This was one of those things I thought was going to be immensely lame. Honestly it probably will be, but after seeing the trailer I can't help but hope that it will be decent.

Surely it can't be worse than Ghost Rider? Right? Right?

[Mikegraham6]

I do. Even though I hated the whole "secret serpent society behind COBRA" thing and Cobra Commander turning into an actual snake and Falcon's shotgun firing lasers, I can watch GI Joe right now and enjoy it.

"I wassssssssssssssssss oncccccccccccccccccce a man!";)

[ConorKilpatrick]

"I wassssssssssssssssss oncccccccccccccccccce a man!";)

I hate you.

[Mikegraham6]

That's cold blooded Conor. Cold blooded.:D

[ConorKilpatrick]

That's cold blooded Conor. Cold blooded.:D

http://www.roadflares.org/matt/images/cobra_commander.jpg

He hatesssssss you too.

[fred]

he may indeed end up using the pimp stick on you

[Mikegraham6]

Cold-blooded.....like a snake??? *coyly raises pinky to mouth*;)

lame pun, i know

[horatio616]

I do. Even though I hated the whole "secret serpent society behind COBRA" thing and Cobra Commander turning into an actual snake and Falcon's shotgun firing lasers, I can watch GI Joe right now and enjoy it.

The GI Joe movie was God-awful even back then. "Cobra-La-La"?

You're in the minority there!

[Mikegraham6]

"Cobra-La-La"?
Oh ya! i forgot about that, that line was pretty bad, and they kept on saying it!:rolleyes:

[Jimski]

Did the GI Joe movie ever come out? In theaters, I mean? I never had this cultural touchstone.

[ConorKilpatrick]

You're in the minority there!

Really? You've done studies? Can I see your data?

[fred]

the poll feature is available

[ConorKilpatrick]

the poll feature is available

I may well be in the minority (not that I'd care), I'm just trying to keep a lid on the kind of message board posting you find most (awful) places - "this is my opinion and it is the opinion of everyone else" and posting "facts" without backing them up. We don't go for those things here.

[fred]

I was just saying - I honestly have no feeling either way on GI Joe in all of its various incarnations

I understand what you mean though

[horatio616]

Can I see your data?

Is that a metaphor for something else?

I thought it was pretty much understood that TF was the better film, like Deep Impact is understood to be better than Armageddon and Under Seige is better than Universal Soldier.

Little known fact: The Cobra-La battle cry was actually written by Pizzazz, lead singer of the Misfits and archenemy of Jem and the Holograms!

[fred]

that is truly truly truly outrageous

[masherscf]

that is truly truly truly outrageous

Jem?


567890

[fred]

Jem?


567890

indeed it is

[masherscf]

like Deep Impact is understood to be better than Armageddon

By what measure?

"Armageddon" cost 140 million and grossed $553,709,788 worldwide.

"Deep Impact" cost 75 million and grossed $349,464,664 worldwide.

I understand that many people think more money is better...

[ConorKilpatrick]

By what measure?

That is exactly my point.

I have no problem with someone thinking one movie is better than another, I do have a problem with people saying things that are not provable, like "everyone prefers movie X over movie Y", or it is "generally understood that movie X is a better movie". That's stuff for Newsarama.

[masherscf]

That is exactly my point.

I have no problem with someone thinking one movie is better than another, I do have a problem with people saying things that are not provable, like "everyone prefers movie X over movie Y", or it is "generally understood that movie X is a better movie". That's stuff for Newsarama.

Movies are like pop-music. There are different tastes.

[horatio616]

By what measure?

"Armageddon" cost 140 million and grossed $553,709,788 worldwide.

"Deep Impact" cost 75 million and grossed $349,464,664 worldwide.

I understand that many people think more money is better...

Well, that was tongue-in-cheek...

[Mikegraham6]

I agree that a lot of opinions about media is subjective. but there are definitely times where you can tell its bad (ie poor production, cliched script, studio enhanced singing voice)
i dont think you can't judge that something is bad just because there are a few people that like it, but i think goes:

small black area---enormous grey area---small white area

those in the black and white are pretty much understood to be bad/good
but again this is just my opinion:D

[masherscf]

I agree that a lot of opinions about media is subjective. but there are definitely times where you can tell its bad (ie poor production, cliched script, studio enhanced singing voice)
i dont think you can't judge that something is bad just because there are a few people that like it, but i think goes:

small black area---enormous grey area---small white area

those in the black and white are pretty much understood to be bad/good
but again this is just my opinion:D

I've often found that certain movies are universally damned while few others are universally hailed.

[Mikegraham6]

I've often found that certain movies are universally damned while few others are universally hailed.

you can say the same about music. theres some really bad music out there but its target audience seems to be pre-teens/early teenage girls:D

[DrWally]

That is exactly my point.

I have no problem with someone thinking one movie is better than another, I do have a problem with people saying things that are not provable, like "everyone prefers movie X over movie Y", or it is "generally understood that movie X is a better movie". That's stuff for Newsarama.

I find this whole discussion about G.I. Joe and Transformers highly amusing after just hearing the 14 year old listener to iFanboy on the podcast asking why everyone was so down on Wolverine: Origins.

aaaannnnd having just stirred the pot, I'll just exit stage left....

[Mikegraham6]

I find this whole discussion about G.I. Joe and Transformers highly amusing after just hearing the 14 year old listener to iFanboy on the podcast asking why everyone was so down on Wolverine: Origins.

aaaannnnd having just stirred the pot, I'll just exit stage left....

Thats pretty damn funny, kudos Wally, Kudos:D

[horatio616]

Isn't discussing the relative quality of the GI Joe and Transformers movies the fanboy equivalent of NSync vs. Backstreet Boys? Or better yet, Jem vs. She-Ra?

Future discussions:

Thundarr the Barbarian vs. Herculoids (advantage Thundarr)

Watership Down vs. The Hobbitt animated features (adv. Watership Down)

Live and Let Die vs. Casino Royale (push)

Cooler helmet: Baron Karza or Darth Vader (adv. Karza)

Kirk or Picard? (adv. Kirk)

Chick-o-stick vs. Butterfinger (adv. C.O.S.)

[DrWally]

:cool: Thats pretty damn funny, kudos Wally, Kudos:D

Thanks Mike, I'm glad I could be of service... we who respect the teachings of the more riddle producing school of Buddhsm (definitely not Zen) love a good conundrum that throws those preaching on their platfroms off into a tail spin. If ever I seem difficult to define, please keep that in mind.

If I ever get on a soapbox talking out my ass, feel free to do the same! :)

(If you can beat Fred or Conor to the punch -- those guys are pros at that);)

[DarrOn]

I can't believe there's not already a thread dedicated to this....but Transformers, people. What do you think? I'm gonna try and check it out tonight at eight, but who knows. I'm actually really looking forward to it. The trailers have done a good job of showing a little of the robots, but not too much. The action looks intense. It has a good cast. What can I say, this is a Michael Bay movie I can get behind (although, does his name really have to be half the size of the Transformers logo? And how come I never hear Spielberg's name...isn't he the E.P.?).

[Labor_Days]

I couldn't be any less interested in this movie. All the hype surrounding it baffles me, utterly. Is it all just nostalgia? Otherwise, I don't see why anyone would care about this movie.

[kwok_talk]

I would definitely say nostalgia and mega massive robots just destroying things. I’m not really holding any expectations about this just b/c I’m already not sure how I feel about them changing a lot of things from the original cartoon, whether old characters or introducing new ones. You know what, I should probably check out the animated movie one of these days.

[The Screw on Aaron]

I believe there is a thread (http://www.revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4660&highlight=Transformers%27) dedicated to this. it's good to get i back up again though.

[DarrOn]

Is it all just nostalgia?

Not for me. The show was before my time....in fact, all I've ever seen of Transformers, besides a handful of episodes I don't remember, is the Transformers: ANimated Movie. I liked it and all, but it wasn't one of the pillars of my youth, y'know?

So let's see...why am I interested in it? Because it's big-ass robots ****ing up Earth. Bad ass looking robots ****ing up Earth. I don't even care if Optimus Prime has those retarded looking lips. I seriously just wanna see shit blown up and demolished, and this looks to satisfy that craving.

[DarrOn]

I believe there is a thread (http://www.revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4660&highlight=Transformers%27) dedicated to this. it's good to get i back up again though.

Whoops. Look up the word Douchebag and you'll see me. My bad (I even posted in it too).

[ConorKilpatrick]

Stay far, far, far away from the animated movie.

I get more and more excited about this movie the more I see about it. Definitely look for a special edition podcast on this one.

[DarrOn]

Stay far, far, far away from the animated movie.

I get more and more excited about this movie the more I see about it. Definitely look for a special edition podcast on this one.

Really? Sweet. That thought never really occured to me. I'd love to hear your guy's thought on a Michael Bay flick.

[The Screw on Aaron]

Well I looked up Douchebag on Google and a…. found some things that I'd rather not talk about, but DarrOn not among them. Its okay man just change the name to Transformers the movie or something and you're set.

[Luthor]

I had a bad bad feeling until I saw the commercial with the Transformer noise...then things were alright.

Now that I know it's in there, I have no doubts about the movie.

[DarrOn]

Well I looked up Douchebag on Google and a…. found some things that I'd rather not talk about, but DarrOn not among them.

Thank Crist. I don't know if I would have been shocked, angry, stoked, or some confusing mash up of them all.

[fred]

it's a good thing you didn't tell him to look up asshole

[fred]

it's a good thing you didn't tell him to look up asshole

yeah so I just did that.

don't ever do that.

especially on google images with filtering turned off

I'm going to go lie on the floor and twitch if anyone needs me

[Jimski]

I still have this one:

http://www.seibertron.com/images/comic/01/tmb/003.jpg

Take THAT, Megatron!

That was my introduction to the black costume. To a large extent, my presence here today in fandom can be attributed to getting that one issue and saying, "Wha-- black-- alien--? I have to read more!"

Has anyone seen a clip in which the Transformers speak? Did that... did that enhance your expectations for the film?

[ConorKilpatrick]

Has anyone seen a clip in which the Transformers speak? Did that... did that enhance your expectations for the film?

Optimus speaking - increase.
Megatron speaking - decrease.

[Labor_Days]

I guess this is just not my kind of movie. Though how any sane person would be looking forward to a Michael Bay movie, nostalgia or not, is beyond me.

[masherscf]

Now THIS movie just plain sucks. (http://www.theasylum.cc/qttrailers/online_trailer-DO_NOT_ERASE.mov)

[Luthor]

Has anyone ever read any of the Uk Transformers comics?

They go in and out of the Marvel U all the time. There are characters that were created in the UK Transformers book that are still part of the regular Marvel U.

[Labor_Days]

There are characters that were created in the UK Transformers book that are still part of the regular Marvel U.
Such as?

(ignore this parenthetical sentence.)

[Luthor]

Death's Head (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death's_Head)

[JMF]

Now THIS movie just plain sucks. (http://www.theasylum.cc/qttrailers/online_trailer-DO_NOT_ERASE.mov)


The Transmorphers Hopefully less than meets the eye.

[Labor_Days]

Death's Head (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death's_Head)

Just that dude, who I've never seen in a mainstream Marvel book? Didn't get on the Marvel UK bandwagon, myself.

[Luthor]

Just that dude, who I've never seen in a mainstream Marvel book? Didn't get on the Marvel UK bandwagon, myself.

The current Death's Head played a role in Planet Hulk...but to be honest I thought there was more but I can't find any info on them.

[Labor_Days]

Wha, what? I read Planet Hulk and don't recall seeing anyone named Death's Head. Was he one of those wild robots tearing farmland up?

[Luthor]

Wha, what? I read Planet Hulk and don't recall seeing anyone named Death's Head. Was he one of those wild robots tearing farmland up?

They were the King's guys at the beginning of the saga:

http://images.comicbookresources.com/previews/marvelcomics/hulk/094/2.jpg

[Labor_Days]

They were the King's guys at the beginning of the saga:

http://images.comicbookresources.com/previews/marvelcomics/hulk/094/2.jpg
Oooh. I thought they were just random robot dudes the Hulk was smashing.

[kahunablair]

Wow...
I just got home from the movie...
It is exactly what a Transformers movie should be. Everyone that watched the cartoon should go see this movie right now!

[acomicbookgirl]

Wow...
I just got home from the movie...
It is exactly what a Transformers movie should be. Everyone that watched the cartoon should go see this movie right now!

I just got home from the movie and i'm so glad I went to see it tonight.. I was a bit hesitant since Bumblebee wasn't a bug and there was no Soundwave unless if you count that reject thing(watch the movie to know what i'm talking about.. ;) ) But after seeing the trailer and hearing Optimus Prime's voice I was feeling a little bit better.. I loved the movie. So much that it made me cry.. Then again , when it comes to movies I cry at any emotional moment... Kahuna is right, watch the this movie now! :)

[esophagus]

Wow...
I just got home from the movie...
It is exactly what a Transformers movie should be. Everyone that watched the cartoon should go see this movie right now!Damnit I wish I hadn't been to hungover for the premiere. Tomorrow.

[JurassicAlien]

Just got back from the film tonight and HOLY GOD is this a fun film. I went in thinking this was going to be either A) The most expensive cheese film ever made or B) An amazing action film that would be fun.

It ended up being both.

The film is simply fun and the cheese is laid on so thick you could have a heart attack while watching. It's all done very tongue in check, I believe the people making this film realized it's based on a cartoon show from the 80's that's based on toys, so it's all done very fun. And Bay goes to town with the cheese, in the last half hour alone there is SO much slow mo silent shots it's amazing and probably tacked on another ten minutes to the movie, but that didn't matter in the end.

The effects are amazing, possibly the best effects put to screen along with a few other films this year. And it didn't feel over done; you didn't feel like you were watching effects.

The only real problem I had with the film is there are ALOT of people and ALOT of time with the people before the robots show up (after the first ten minutes that is). I realize there have to be people and scenes with character building, but I want to see the robots and it took a while to get to all the robots, but when it does...oh the roof blows off the house! The acting was okay but it didn't matter, as long as the robots were in game then it didn't matter how good the acting was.

There are talks of a sequel and I don't know if there needs to be one, it's nice to have this fun film and leave it at that. I think we can all learn from Pirates that sometimes when sequels are done to fun films and made into trilogies then it gets all bogged down and super serious and drawn out and they just SUCK!

I recommend just going into this film, minds off and eyes open, you'll laugh at things you weren't meant to, clap out of nowhere and your eyes will fall out of your head. People shouldn't take this seriously, this is Transformers, not Batman Begins, go in expecting fun, crap dialogue, spot on action scenes and cars turning into shit and you'll get it.

"Make it rain!"

[kwok_talk]

I was a bit hesitant since Bumblebee wasn't a bug and there was no Soundwave unless if you count that reject thing(watch the movie to know what i'm talking about..

I think this is why Soundwave wasn't in the movie.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=9TYzRanykbQ

[masherscf]

I think this is why Soundwave wasn't in the movie.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=9TYzRanykbQ


Stupid iPods!


Honestly, transforming into a "ghetto blaster" isn't the lamest thing ever...

[davegraham]

It stays true to the source material. In that there are robots that fight robots and the plot revolves around this thing that could destroy the world. There was story enough to support the concept. It wasn't high minded sci-fi. It didn't have to be.

The humans get more screen time than the robots, but if it were the other way around it would be a lot sillier. A lot sillier than a live action movie about toys.


It is wide open for a sequel and one will be made.

The robots are a little shallow. They don't do much more than fight each other and exposition. I kind of feel Hugo Weaving was wasted, because Megatron probably gets the least amount of screen time.

At the end there is a line from the cartoon movie that made me cheer and I never cheer when I go to the movies.

If you show up to watch a movie about robots destroying each other you will like this a lot (I was very please with it), but if you're looking for some intellegent sci-fi you better pass on this.

[masherscf]

"Transformers" sounds a lot like "Transvestites" or "Transgenders"... The "More than meets the eye" tagline works as well.

[DarrOn]

Worlds most expensive car and toy commercial?

Sure.


One bad-ass flick?

Oh yea.


Seriously.....the movie was tits. Hell, the best line in the flick (don't worry, no spoilers), after a bunch of meteors land on Earth, some kids running with a camcorder yells out, "This is like 10 times more bad-ass than Armageddon!" He wasn't wrong. Bay knows how to make a sick action flick, that's for damn sure. Shia Labouf was fantastic, as was Josh Duhmel (sp?). Really, the whole cast was fine, parents and all. Sequel already announced (well, it's 'in talks')...and after the lines I saw for the midnight screening, they'd be crazy not to go for the gold twice. And I'd completely fine with that. Don't wanna get TOO into it....I don't wanna spoil anything.

[horatio616]

Wow, my optimism for this flick was guarded, but you guys really have my nerd nipples tweaked. Can't wait to see it.

[Ekval]

Wow, my optimism for this flick was guarded, but you guys really have my nerd nipples tweaked. Can't wait to see it.

I was gonna say that I was pretty stoked too, but how can I compete with nerd-nipples...

On a side note we reviewed the Transformers game for the 360 on our podcast this past week...we didn't play too far in, but honestly, it was a blast as well...driving over a hill super fast, transforming in mid-air and bashing the crap out of another robot is something that...well...can get your nerd nipples tweaked...

[Jimski]

On a side note we reviewed the Transformers game for the 360 on our podcast this past week...we didn't play too far in, but honestly, it was a blast as well...driving over a hill super fast, transforming in mid-air and bashing the crap out of another robot is something that...well...can get your nerd nipples tweaked...

I would have trampled a grandma to get my hands on a Transformers video game when I was 9 or 10.

People are saying, "Dude, I'm so excited; this movie is gonna rawk!" and while I'm smiling politely I'm thinking, "How could that be possible? Honestly?" But there is no denying it: Rotten Tomatoes is currently giving the film a 60% "fresh" rating, and their "cream of the crop" critics like it even more than that. Entertainment Weekly gives it a B-. You might make a believer out of me yet.

[kahunablair]

Well now that I actually got some sleep I figured I'd add some actual comments to my geekgasm from the previous page.
-Optimus Prime. He was handled damn near perfectly. Every line out of his mouth was the old profound, life lesson type lines that he was known for. I was waiting for him to say "Wax on, Wax off"
-Megatron. The best part about him was the fact that the entire movie was a build up to just how evil this mo fo is, and when he finally appears, it's all paid off. It could have went the way of the aliens in Signs but thankfully it didn't.
-Shia Lebouf. This kid is damn good. I remember watching Even Stevens with my brothers and sister and telling them that this kid was way to good for a crappy show on Disney. He doesn't dissapoint.1
-Bumblebee. They actually made Bumblebee kick ass. He's made into much more of a warrior, and the transition into the Camaro instead of the Beetle makes sense in the film. Plus seeing the Camaro parked next to the old school yellow beetle had me grinning from ear to ear.
-Autobots. The rest of the Autobots kept their cliched character types from the cartoon. It really did up the cheese factor, but in an extremely fun way.
-Decepticons. They don't say much. They don't need to. Just bad asses all around.

The one thing that really shocked me was how funny the movie was. Everything from the radio in Bumblebee, to Sam's parents. They all had me laughing out loud.

[horatio616]

I just gotta know. Does Optimus say "Autobots transform and roll out"? If not that sucks.

[kahunablair]

I just gotta know. Does Optimus say "Autobots transform and roll out"? If not that sucks.

Yes, yes he does. And it brought a tear to my eye.

[horatio616]

I think we should put a stop to Steve Jobs before Apple puts out a phone that destroys the world. Avoid the lessons learned from Transformers and Terminator at your peril.

[ConorKilpatrick]

We didn't learn that lesson in Terminator 2?

[horatio616]

We didn't learn that lesson in Terminator 2?

People didn't listen after TIII either. The end is nigh. One of these days your PDA is going to transform into a knife and stab you in the throat. Don't say I didn't warn you!

[ConorKilpatrick]

I have noticd my cell phone eyeing me suspiciously lately...

[Mikegraham6]

so conor is it decided yet if we are going to be getting a special edition podcast about this flick???:D

[ConorKilpatrick]

Yep .

I get more and more excited about this movie the more I see about it. Definitely look for a special edition podcast on this one.

[kahunablair]

I have noticd my cell phone eyeing me suspiciously lately...

I have but one word for you Conor, that will make sense while watching the movie.

Nokia

[Mikegraham6]

Yep .

sorry dude, i hate it when im too busy to catch up, but thanks for answering

[MastaP]

Didn't see this up yet, decided to put it out there

just to start, has Michael Bay raped your childhood, yay or nay?

[Humphrey Lee]

I don't know if he's raped my childhood yet or not. Won't watch the movie for another 12 hours. And honestly, I barely remember my childhood as is, nor do most people who claim its been "raped" if they truly sat there and thought about it.

Actually, if anything is "raping my childhood" it's doing stuff like I'm going to be doing after the movie tomorrow... drinking a fifth of rum as we grill several pounds of dead cow. God bless America.

[Reckers]

Michael Bay: nay, surprisingly. While some of the first half of the movie dragged on a bit, it was quite a fun movie. Two things bugged me though: Optimus Prime had a mouth and a favourite Autobot of mine gets shafted.

Other than that though, it was pretty good. Great CGI, great action sequences and Peter Cullen as Optimus Prime!

[The Dude Abides]

One day I'll watch this movie. Today is not that day.
Maybe Live Free or Die Hard, today.

[Decarabas]

Actually... no... it had it's moments, wasn't the best film.. but wasn't unwatchable, it did entertain me.. only thing that bugged me was the complete lack of a Stan Bush song, and the voice talent with a few of the transformers, most notably Starscream and Jazz... i know the original Jazz died... but couldn't they have gotten a sound-a-like?.. also Hugo Weaving did the voice of Megatron... So now he's been a robot, an elf, an Agent Smith, a V, a penguin AND a cross-dresser! Australian Actors rock =)

- Dec

edit; found out the original voice of Starcream also died.... now I'm sad =(

[acomicbookgirl]

Before watching the movie and finding out that there was no Soundwave and Bumblebee was a Camaro and if you asked me this question, I would've said that he did.. After watching the movie, he somewhat validated it. Loved the movie. I think this movie and Die Hard were the best movies i've seen so far for the year..

[Luthor]

I never thought I would have such a hard time trying to get people to see a movie in my life. My girlfriend made other plans to see it and my friends have no interest. I may have to see it by myself. *sigh*

[acomicbookgirl]

edit; found out the original voice of Starcream also died.... now I'm sad =(

I'm sorry. I think they all died except the voice of Optimus Prime.. I was sad when I found out about it.

[Labor_Days]

has Michael Bay raped your childhood, yay or nay?Nay. Because I never was into the Transformers as a kid and am baffled why any rationale adult would want to see a Michael Bay movie based on children's toys.

I am terribly vexed by this recent phenomena.

[kahunablair]

Nay. Because I never was into the Transformers as a kid and am baffled why any rationale adult would want to see a Michael Bay movie based on children's toys.

I am terribly vexed by this recent phenomena.

You don't ever want to see a completely over the top action movie? Because that's all that most of us want to see some times.

[Labor_Days]

This made me lol at the nostalgia circle jerk for 80's toys this week...

http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2007/20070704.jpg

[Labor_Days]

You don't ever want to see a completely over the top action movie? Because that's all that most of us want to see some times.
Sure, I like action movies. But I do not like Michael Bay movies. That dude is one of the worst things to ever happen to filmmaking.

[Luthor]

This made me lol at the nostalgia circle jerk for 80's toys this week...

http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2007/20070704.jpg

I'd pay to see that....but it would have to be a horror movie, those toys were ****ing disturbing.

[kahunablair]

Sure, I like action movies. But I do not like Michael Bay movies. That dude is one of the worst things to ever happen to filmmaking.

I guess I'm at a disadvantage (or advantage, depending how you look at it) when it comes to Bay. I am not a fan of action flicks at all, so I've only seen Armageddon and The Island.
Armageddon is one of my guilty pleasures. The Island was an ok movie, that dropped the ball on a great concept. So I guess I don't have as much hatred for the guy as some do.

[Labor_Days]

Armageddon and The Island aren't enough? What does Bay have to do, drown kittens and rape goats in his next movie?

[kahunablair]

Well as far as I know, he's going 50/50 for me. So I don't think I'd goes as extreme as drowning kittens. Maybe petting them to hard, or forgetting to feed them once.

[The Dude Abides]

he made bad boys 2, in which the bad boys literally invade cuba and drive over a shanty town in a hummer.

[horatio616]

What a fun movie! I can't believe this actually got made! It really polished my nerd-knob. Thanks Michael Bay!

[Labor_Days]

Scarlett Johansson bouncing around for two hours was the only redeeming quality of The Island.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1004/716219481_b87c8a4b2b_o.jpg
Foxy.


I'm writing a blunt letter to Michael Bay.

Dear, Michael Bay

Your movies suck. Please, stop making them.

Sincerely, Labor_Days

Hope Bay has time to stop counting your money long enough to respond. :rolleyes:

[fred]

jesus man. you're not exactly a fan of his? Did you ever see the SNL car pool sketch with Alec Baldwin? It's kind of reminding me of that.

Bobby McFerrin raped my grandmother.

[horatio616]

Nay. Because I never was into the Transformers as a kid and am baffled why any rationale adult would want to see a Michael Bay movie based on children's toys.

I am terribly vexed by this recent phenomena.

Are you a culture snob? You're hanging in the wrong place.

[Luthor]

Bobby McFerrin raped my grandmother.
Don't worry, be happy.

[fred]

she can't be happy

[Labor_Days]

Seriously, when did Bad Boys, Pearl Harbor, The Rock or Armageddon stop being utterly terrible and flatout laughable films?

This Transformers movie seems nothing more than another vapid money making ploy capitalizing on misplaced nostalgia. Who looks at a toy Semi-truck and thinks, "Hmm, there is a real chance to tell a compelling story here using multi-million dollar effects.". Seriously.

I'm not a culture snob (dude, wtf?) but I do have some standards when it comes to crass money grabs. Nah, think I'll pass on that sort of mainstream Gigaplex dreck Bay cooks up.

[Mikegraham6]

that was the most fun i had in a movie theatre in years (honestly.. since Snakes on a Plane- it was a blast) but this was by no means a perfect movie. I probably wouldn't have liked it if it weren't transformers, but damn, everytime optimus prime was on screen (let alone spoke) i got goose bumps :D

[Mikegraham6]

Seriously, when did Bad Boys, Pearl Harbor, The Rock or Armageddon stop being utterly terrible and flatout laughable films?

This Transformers movie seems nothing more than another vapid money making ploy capitalizing on misplaced nostalgia. Who looks at a toy Semi-truck and thinks, "Hmm, there is a real chance to tell a compelling story here using multi-million dollar effects.". Seriously.

I'm not a culture snob (dude, wtf?) but I do have some standards when it comes to crass money grabs. Nah, think I'll pass on that sort of mainstream Gigaplex dreck Bay cooks up.

but transformers was ALWAYS a money grab. it was just a half hour long commercial for the toys. (anyone notice that this movie was produced in association with Hasbro?;))

[Mikegraham6]

the biggest problem i had with this flick was that i found the robot fights to be hard to follow. Since they weren't blocky like the old cartoon, the numerous parts were distracting and i found it hard to decypher whether it was an arm, chest or head.

PS Shia Leboeuf is awesome! i have to see Disturbia now

[kahunablair]

but transformers was ALWAYS a money grab. it was just a half hour long commercial for the toys. (anyone notice that this movie was produced in association with Hasbro?;))

I actually laughed pretty loudly when I saw that on the screen. Apparently I was the only one that found it funny, because I had pretty much the entire theatre turn and look at me when I did.

[horatio616]

Seriously, when did Bad Boys, Pearl Harbor, The Rock or Armageddon stop being utterly terrible and flatout laughable films?

This Transformers movie seems nothing more than another vapid money making ploy capitalizing on misplaced nostalgia. Who looks at a toy Semi-truck and thinks, "Hmm, there is a real chance to tell a compelling story here using multi-million dollar effects.". Seriously.

I'm not a culture snob (dude, wtf?) but I do have some standards when it comes to crass money grabs. Nah, think I'll pass on that sort of mainstream Gigaplex dreck Bay cooks up.

So what you're trying to tell us is that you don't like Michael Bay...

Pearl Harbor and Armaggeddon blew. I enjoyed The Rock and the first Bad Boys. The Island started out as a good movie but fell apart at the end. There are a lot worse directors out there. Transformers was very good!

[Labor_Days]

but transformers was ALWAYS a money grab. it was just a half hour long commercial for the toys.Wasn't into the toys or cartoons much but that only makes this movie seem that much more vapid.

[Luthor]

she can't be happy

How can you not enjoy the enchanting mouth noises?

[Mikegraham6]

Wasn't into the toys or cartoons much but that only makes this movie seem that much more vapid.

like i said before, if it wasn't for the nostalgia factor i probably wouldn't have liked it either (but i did love it:D)

[fred]

How can you not enjoy the enchanting mouth noises?

I always prefered to Walk The Dinosaur.

[kahunablair]

Wasn't into the toys or cartoons much but that only makes this movie seem that much more vapid.

Ok, so you were in the minority. This movie isn't made for you. Enough said.

[Labor_Days]

So what you're trying to tell us is that you don't like Michael Bay...Yes that and having a laugh at people lining up to see a movie based on action figures out of nostalgia. It's by turns baffling and humorous.

In all honesty, I'd see Transformers if Scarlett Johansson was in it. Because I'm a hypocrite.

Ok, so you were in the minority. This movie isn't made for you. Enough said.I admitted as much in the Transformers thread proper. But it does amuse me so.

[Mikegraham6]

i think this is a genius move by the movie studio because you get the action buff, the kids, and the 25-30 yr olds who grew up with the transformers. Nostalgia, got to love it

Bring on He-Man, Thundercats, GI Joe and MASK!!!

[Luthor]

I always prefered to Walk The Dinosaur.
Boom boom acka-lacka-lacka boom

[horatio616]

Yes that and having a laugh at people lining up to see a movie based on action figures out of nostalgia. It's by turns baffling and humorous.


All of comics is based on nostalgia. Hell, everything DC is putting out right now is based on nostalgia. That's no different than Transformers.

Optimus Prime would kick Hal Jordan in the ass.

[Labor_Days]

I might be interested in a G.I. Joe movie. That was my cartoon/action figures of choice as a kid. But not if Michael Bay's name is attached to it. I have a snobbish reputation to maintain. :D

[fred]

Boom boom acka-lacka-lacka boom

open the door, get on the floor

[Luthor]

open the door, get on the floor
What ever happened to Was, Not Was?

[Labor_Days]

All of comics is based on nostalgia. Hell, everything DC is putting out right now is based on nostalgia. That's no different than Transformers.

Optimus Prime would kick Hal Jordan in the ass.Maybe so. But I didn't grow up reading DC either and it's all new to me. And I am a big advocate of dropping poor books, (despite reading them as a kid) such as all X-books not named Astonishing or Factor, all Spidey books without hearts in the title, Punisher books not written by Ennis, etc.

I'm not one to ignore quality in favor of nostalgia.

[horatio616]

Maybe so. But I didn't grow up reading DC either and it's all new to me. And I am a big advocate of dropping poor books, (despite reading them as a kid) such as all X-books not named Astonishing or Factor, all Spidey books without hearts in the title, Punisher books not written by Ennis, etc.

I'm not one to ignore quality in favor of nostalgia.

Ah, but that's where your argument fails. Transformers is a good movie.

[Decarabas]

Am i the only one that wanted a Stan Bush rendition of "You got the touch" when Optimus first appeared? or even "Dare" at any stage... Any one else? Anyone?!?

Bah weep granna weep ninni bong! Dammit!! Bah weep granna weep ninni bong!

- Dec

[Labor_Days]

Transformers is a good movie.That is a logical error. Michael Bay directed the film.

[Mikegraham6]

Am i the only one that wanted a Stan Bush rendition of "You got the touch" when Optimus first appeared? or even "Dare" at any stage... Any one else? Anyone?!?

Bah weep granna weep ninni bong! Dammit!! Bah weep granna weep ninni bong!

- Dec
I said that EXACT thing to my buddy before the start of the movie.
I told him if i heard the transformers theme from the 80s movie in the opening i would have stood up and applauded:D

We listened to You've got the touch, Dare, Dare to be stupid, on the ride to the theatre and the Transformers theme on the way home

[Luthor]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf_qfX9cKsQ

[fred]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=wNRsIFKLDBk

[Decarabas]

Whoooo! Now that's a song!... is it sad i freaked and thought my phone rang.. it's been my ringtone for the better part of year.. heh

- Dec

[fred]

As I listened to it, it reminded me of this:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6a8MApruSMA

[Mikegraham6]

can you re-open the general discussion thread if we promise to be good:D

[fred]

normally, I'd put this in general discussion but I don't think I'm suppossed to today

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u116/fredhosley/Fredtimus_prime.gif

[Mikegraham6]

i have a pic similar to this but on my home pc, i'll post it when i get home if i remember
my friends and i all had transformers pics with our heads as our facebook profile pics a while back, people thought we were in a cult or something

[acomicbookgirl]

I wish I could have one of those with either Bublebee or Soundwave..

[Mikegraham6]

mine was Hot Rod and my girlfriend's pic was Arcee

[acomicbookgirl]

Oh how cute. :)

[fred]

I wish I could have one of those with either Bublebee or Soundwave..

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u116/fredhosley/soundwave.gif

[acomicbookgirl]

Awwww.. Fred.. :o

[Jimski]

That is a logical error. Michael Bay directed the film.

Don't tell me; tell Roger Ebert (3 stars) or the critics over at Rotten Tomatoes. I want to be a snob as much as anyone, but in the end I must defer to the people who have actually seen the movie they're talking about.

In the meantime, I can't wait for the next beloved icon to take the screen by storm. (http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/07/04)

[kahunablair]

In the meantime, I can't wait for the next beloved icon to take the screen by storm. (http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/07/04)


That is awesome. They need to make that into a wallpaper right now!

[Labor_Days]

Don't tell me; tell Roger Ebert (3 stars) or the critics over at Rotten Tomatoes. I want to be a snob as much as anyone, but in the end I must defer to the people who have actually seen the movie they're talking about.Pssh. I feel quite comfortable making wild generalizations about films I have not seen. Sides, the reviews are not really that great. To wit, link (http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/transformers). Never forget people also liked PoTC and Titanic...

In the meantime, I can't wait for the next beloved icon to take the screen by storm. (http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/07/04)I already posted that joke. Come on Jimski, you're slipping.

[ConorKilpatrick]

Never forget people also liked PoTC and Titanic..

Both good-to-great movies.

[fred]

what's PoTC?

[ConorKilpatrick]

what's PoTC?

I assumed it was Pirates of the Caribbean.

[fred]

ah - saw the first one. Wasn't really my thing

[Labor_Days]

Both good-to-great movies.I beg to differ, sir.

[ConorKilpatrick]

I beg to differ, sir.

I'm shocked.

[paper]

I beg to differ, sir.

I've come out of seclusion just to say that you're wrong. Leave PotC out of this. It's a magnificent popcorn movie with some really smart writing. At least the first one.

Now behave yourselves.

[Labor_Days]

I've come out of seclusion just to say that you're wrong. Leave PotC out of this. It's a magnificent popcorn movie with some really smart writing. At least the first one.

Now behave yourselves.Worst self-imposed exile ever. Stop lurking Paper and get your ass back in cyberspace.

I'm shocked.You dudes liked that incomprehensible mess of a film, PoTC? And the schmaltzy Titanic?

I enjoy a good popcorn flick every now and then but movies based on theme park rides? Well, I don't really know where to go with that.

[Mikegraham6]

Worst self-imposed exile ever. Stop lurking Paper and get your ass back in cyberspace.

You dudes liked that incomprehensible mess of a film, PoTC? And the schmaltzy Titanic?

I enjoy a good popcorn flick every now and then but movies based on theme park rides? Well, I don't really know where to go with that.

come on now, lets leave The Haunted Mansion out of this:D
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t268/mikegraham6/Haunted_Mansion.jpg

[ConorKilpatrick]

You dudes liked that incomprehensible mess of a film, PoTC? And the schmaltzy Titanic?

I did, yes.

I enjoy a good popcorn flick every now and then but movies based on theme park rides? Well, I don't really know where to go with that.

The source material is irrelevant to the quality of the final product. Talk about being judgmental.

[Labor_Days]

he source material is irrelevant to the quality of the final product. Talk about being judgmental.
Sorry, but context is important to me. Art, films, books and media don't exist in a vacuum. I see summer movies based on toys, theme park rides and old television shows full of whiz-bang effects, wall-to-wall tv coverage and happy meal marketing and my bullshit-detector goes off.

[DarrOn]

I enjoy a good popcorn flick every now and then.

Dude...seriously, I was starting to believe you didn't like...well, anything. I'm glad you at least like SOMEthing.

[Mikegraham6]

Dude...seriously, I was starting to believe you didn't like...well, anything. I'm glad you at least like SOMEthing.
Hey now,
lets not confuse him with Humphrey j/k:D

[ConorKilpatrick]

Sorry, but context is important to me. Art, films, books and media don't exist in a vacuum. I see summer movies based on toys, theme park rides and old television shows full of whiz-bang effects, wall-to-wall tv coverage and happy meal marketing and my bullshit-detector goes off.

The source material of a movie like Pirates of the Carribean is irrelevant to the movie itself. Unless Gore Verbinski puts up a camera and films the ride for two hours. Otherwise it doesn't matter what the inspiration is, only what the final product is.

[Labor_Days]

The source material of a movie like Pirates of the Carribean is irrelevant to the movie itself. Unless Gore Verbinski puts up a camera and films the ride for two hours. Otherwise it doesn't matter what the inspiration is, only what the final product is.I've never seen a piece of art that existed or could be judged fairly without context. The fact the screenwriter took his cues from a theme park ride is part of the pastiche of the film, no?

Admittedly, my indie/punk roots may be showing w/r/t these sort of marketing driven blockbusters.

(I'm bringing this thread down. Enjoy the movie guys, it's just not my sort of thing.)

[ConorKilpatrick]

'Transformers' preview takes in $8.8M

By DAVID GERMAIN, AP Movie Writer Wed Jul 4, 7:30 AM ET

LOS ANGELES - Giant robots transformed into big bucks for Hollywood. The sci-fi adventure "Transformers" took in $8.8 million from Monday night screenings in advance of its official Tuesday release, providing a healthy lead-in for what studios hope will be a strong Fourth of July week at theaters.

"It certainly looks like a great way to start," said Marvin Levy, spokesman for DreamWorks, which released "Transformers" along with fellow Viacom Inc. unit Paramount. "It's a case when you have robots like this, they act like magnets to draw audiences into theaters."

Directed by Michael Bay and based on the Hasbro toys that debuted in the 1980s, "Transformers" chronicles a war between two factions of giant shape-shifting robots that bring their battle to Earth. The human cast costarring alongside the computer-generated robots includes Shia LaBeouf, Tyrese Gibson, Jon Voight, Josh Duhamel and John Turturro.

"Transformers" played in screenings starting at 8 p.m. Monday at 3,050 theaters, about three-fourths the number of cinemas that the movie officially debuted in Tuesday.

Monday's "Transformers" total was the third-best recorded by a movie in similar preview screenings, behind May's "Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End" with $13.2 million and 1996's "Independence Day" with $11.1 million, according to box-office tracker Media By Numbers.

[horatio616]

Hey now,
lets not confuse him with Humphrey j/k:D

I thought that was Paper. Wait, have we ever seen Labor and Paper in the same room? Hmm...

[Labor_Days]

Uh...well...I swear Paper and I are...<runs>

[esophagus]

Seriously, when did Bad Boys, Pearl Harbor, The Rock or Armageddon stop being utterly terrible and flatout laughable films?

This Transformers movie seems nothing more than another vapid money making ploy capitalizing on misplaced nostalgia. Who looks at a toy Semi-truck and thinks, "Hmm, there is a real chance to tell a compelling story here using multi-million dollar effects.". Seriously.

I'm not a culture snob (dude, wtf?) but I do have some standards when it comes to crass money grabs. Nah, think I'll pass on that sort of mainstream Gigaplex dreck Bay cooks up.This movie, just like everything Bay does, and everything Transformers related, is there solely for the purpose to make money. I'm going to see this because I loved the Transformers and think making them CGI is the coolest thing since sliced bread. It's going to be a trerrible movie, Bay made it, but I'm going to see it just for the characters. Just like Bay wanted me too. Who cares if you hate his movies, a lot of people do. Theres no need to be pissy just because you weren't into the Transformers as a kid. You have slipped between the Micheal Bay money-making cracks. Enjoy your solitude.

[esophagus]

Sorry, but context is important to me. Art, films, books and media don't exist in a vacuum. I see summer movies based on toys, theme park rides and old television shows full of whiz-bang effects, wall-to-wall tv coverage and happy meal marketing and my bullshit-detector goes off.I agree completely. A good movie will generally have to have context to it, and a really great story to back it. And if you are going to make a movie based on a theme park ride, you're going to have to do damn good to make up for it. But were a money hungry society, blockbusters and heavy marketing is part of what our country is. We need to live with that, and find our own good shit. I watch silent movies, old black and whites, and mass amounts of indie films. Anything that has a story to make up for a small budget.

Ignore the irony of this interview being from MTV. I remembered reading it when I wrote this. http://www.mtv.com/shared/movies/interviews/m/moore_alan_060315/

[Labor_Days]

This movie, just like everything Bay does, and everything Transformers related, is there solely for the purpose to make money. I'm going to see this because I loved the Transformers and think making them CGI is the coolest thing since sliced bread. It's going to be a trerrible movie, Bay made it, but I'm going to see it just for the characters. Just like Bay wanted me too. Who cares if you hate his movies, a lot of people do. Theres no need to be pissy just because you weren't into the Transformers as a kid. You have slipped between the Micheal Bay money-making cracks. Enjoy your solitude.Cool. Let me know if one of the robots is a Hummer.

http://www.celluloid-dreams.de/content/images/kritiken-filmbilder/bad-boys-2/bad-boys-2-1.jpg

[fred]

Cool. Let me know if one of the robots is a Hummer.

http://www.celluloid-dreams.de/content/images/kritiken-filmbilder/bad-boys-2/bad-boys-2-1.jpg

OK, so I'm going to guess that you aren't into Michael Bay or the Transformers. I think this because this is your 24th anti-Transformers or anti-Bay post in this thread.

Seriously, we get it. You're not into it. That's fine. This is America and you don't have to be. It's time to let the people who are excited about this be excited about it.

[esophagus]

Cool. Let me know if one of the robots is a Hummer.

http://www.celluloid-dreams.de/content/images/kritiken-filmbilder/bad-boys-2/bad-boys-2-1.jpg
I've secretly been hoping one of them is biodiesel actually. =p We all know that's not going to happen though. Maybe when the transformers get beaten up to bad they have doubles which they can harvest for parts.

[ConorKilpatrick]

I agree completely. A good movie will generally have to have context to it, and a really great story to back it. And if you are going to make a movie based on a theme park ride, you're going to have to do damn good to make up for it. But were a money hungry society, blockbusters and heavy marketing is part of what our country is. We need to live with that, and find our own good shit. I watch silent movies, old black and whites, and mass amounts of indie films. Anything that has a story to make up for a small budget.

Wow, you must be a lot of fun at parties.

[horatio616]

Wow, you must be a lot of fun at parties.

What he's referring to are those really old stag films. I've been to a couple of his parties and they get uncomfortable really quickly. ;)

[Labor_Days]

OK, so I'm going to guess that you aren't into Michael Bay or the Transformers. I think this because this is your 24th anti-Transformers or anti-Bay post in this thread.

Seriously, we get it. You're not into it. That's fine. This is America and you don't have to be. It's time to let the people who are excited about this be excited about it.
C'mon dude, I'm joking about a kid's movie here. That Bad Boys pic is brilliantly bad/hilarious. I'll probably end up paying to see Transformers anyways. :rolleyes:


edit: Why are people so defensive about Transformers? It's not like anyone here put up the money to make this movie. Jeez, you'd think I insulted someone's mother.

[esophagus]

C'mon dude, I'm joking about a kid's movie here. That Bad Boys pic is brilliantly bad/hilarious. I'll probably end up paying to see Transformers anyways. :rolleyes:


edit: Why are people so defensive about Transformers? It's not like anyone here put up the money to make this movie. Jeez, you'd think I insulted someone's mother.Ironhide is my mom. Don't ask how it works.

[Labor_Days]

Ironhide is my mom. Don't ask how it works.
Tailpipe most likely.

[horatio616]

C'mon dude, I'm joking about a kid's movie here. That Bad Boys pic is brilliantly bad/hilarious. I'll probably end up paying to see Transformers anyways. :rolleyes:


edit: Why are people so defensive about Transformers? It's not like anyone here put up the money to make this movie. Jeez, you'd think I insulted someone's mother.

Optimus is my surrogate father.

[fred]

C'mon dude, I'm joking about a kid's movie here. That Bad Boys pic is brilliantly bad/hilarious. I'll probably end up paying to see Transformers anyways. :rolleyes:


edit: Why are people so defensive about Transformers? It's not like anyone here put up the money to make this movie. Jeez, you'd think I insulted someone's mother.

My irritation has nothing to do with Transformers. I haven't even decided if I'm going to see it yet. It's that you keep saying the same 3 or 4 negative things over and over and you haven't even seen the movie.

[horatio616]

The unreleased sequel to Transformers The Movie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq1_6D9QS9Y

[horatio616]

Transformer's dominates box-office:

http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/va/20070704/118358775900.html


"Transformers," a special-effects movie extravaganza based on popular toys, earned $27.5 million during its first full day of release and appears on track to dominate the weekend box office.

The previous record for a Tuesday was set last month, when "Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest" earned $15.7 million, according to Viacom Inc.-owned Paramount.

[esophagus]

Bam. Johnny Depp owned by Shia le Beouf (sp?). Speaking of which, everyone mentions Disturbia when thinking of him, am I the only one who thinks of Even Stevens / the only one who's heard of Even Stevens?

[DarrOn]

Hey now,
lets not confuse him with Humphrey j/k:D

I was just kidding with the man. I'm sure he likes stuff. And the occasional thing. ;-)


edit: Why are people so defensive about Transformers? It's not like anyone here put up the money to make this movie. Jeez, you'd think I insulted someone's mother.

I was 'defensive' for the same reasons Fred posted. But also, you have to understand, you're on a comic-book forum. Transformers, while not based off a comic, lends quite well the medium and it's fans. What, did you expect a forum full of people who read about superheroes flying around, destroying shit, and saving the world wouldn't like a movie about giant robots flying around, destroying shit, and saving the world?

[JAFlanagan]

Bam. Johnny Depp owned by Shia le Beouf (sp?). Speaking of which, everyone mentions Disturbia when thinking of him, am I the only one who thinks of Even Stevens / the only one who's heard of Even Stevens?

I have. A story:

A long time ago, my wife (then girlfriend) woke up early and was flipping around on the TV. She ended up watching Even Stevens for some reason, and later told me that it wasn't a good show, but the kid on it, who she didn't know was really good.

A year or so later, we were watching Project Greenlight Season 2, and they cast Shia LaBeouf in the movie, and she said, that was the kid! And it was true. He's a damn fine actor, who doesn't seem to have gotten the good role he deserves yet. Of course, he might not be so much of a good actor as he is like Vince Vaughan, who doesn't so much act like anyone else, as just be himself, which is very charismatic.

[Six Gun]

I haven't been into this thread, but. Yes or no,with no iquivocation; should I spend $13 and 2 1/2 hours tommorow to see this?

[JAFlanagan]

Cool. Let me know if one of the robots is a Hummer.


Ratchet is a "ambulance" hummer.

[Labor_Days]

I hear what you guys are saying and thus I am injecting positivity into the thread.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1326/720801373_8436135f44_o.jpg

Feel that tingle? That's Michael Bay's hand in your pocket!*


Ratchet is a "ambulance" hummer.
But are there "bad boys" involved?




*(I've already said this movie doesn't interest me more than once and wished you guys who are interested a good time at the movies. It's just message boarding, have fun with it.)

[acomicbookgirl]

I haven't been into this thread, but. Yes or no,with no iquivocation; should I spend $13 and 2 1/2 hours tommorow to see this?

If you loved the cartoon, YES! :)

[JurassicAlien]

Have we become to critical of films? I mean it doesn't seem like fun films can be just that "fun". Now I know movie going public disagrees because films like Transformers or Live Free and Die Hard are indeed making money. BUT I hear ALOT of people complain about the "meaing" or "point" of movies like Pirates or Transformers or any film where something blows up. People seem to enjoy quoting text books or teachers lectures from film school (I'm currently in film school but enjoyed the hell out of Transformers, but my favorite movie of the year has been Hot Fuzz). And even with Hot Fuzz, I heard a few reviews that went like "I enjoyed it, until the last half hour, when it became an action movie, it got ruined." Really?


I just feel like there are differnt kinds of films out there, some films can be fun for the sake of fun withouth having depth or purpose or following the "Rules of film school" as I have heard other people (not in this forum) tell me. I heard one reivew say "Live free or Die hard is bad because no one could survive what this man goes through" By that logic we should stop at half of part one.

I wonder if some will dislike the Simpsons movie because "It's a crazy Cartoon lacking meaning or realism"

I'm not sure if it's always been this way, but fun films should just be fun (And fun films doesn't mean let the crap go. Batman begins was both fun and really good. X3 tried to be fun and good, wasn't either. So I'm saying Fun doesn't equal safty word for crap).

Sorry for the rant/tanget just putting it out there I guess, I realize it's all over the place.

[Jimski]

A year or so later, we were watching Project Greenlight Season 2, and they cast Shia LaBeouf in the movie, and she said, that was the kid!

Project Greenlight and SNL are the only things I've ever seen him in. (He was such a spaz behind the scenes of that movie.) It's weird: I've seen every episode of Project Greenlight, but I've never watched a single one of the actual movies. One of them has been sitting in my house for two years. Is it just one of those things? Once you've seen how they made the sausage, it's not appetizing anymore?

[JAFlanagan]

Project Greenlight and SNL are the only things I've ever seen him in. (He was such a spaz behind the scenes of that movie.) It's weird: I've seen every episode of Project Greenlight, but I've never watched a single one of the actual movies. One of them has been sitting in my house for two years. Is it just one of those things? Once you've seen how they made the sausage, it's not appetizing anymore?

Feast was awesome. Go watch it today. With friends if possible.

Don't bother with the other 2.

[esophagus]

I have. A story:

A long time ago, my wife (then girlfriend) woke up early and was flipping around on the TV. She ended up watching Even Stevens for some reason, and later told me that it wasn't a good show, but the kid on it, who she didn't know was really good.

A year or so later, we were watching Project Greenlight Season 2, and they cast Shia LaBeouf in the movie, and she said, that was the kid! And it was true. He's a damn fine actor, who doesn't seem to have gotten the good role he deserves yet. Of course, he might not be so much of a good actor as he is like Vince Vaughan, who doesn't so much act like anyone else, as just be himself, which is very charismatic.It's true, he's nothing but himself. But he has so much character, he can play absolutely any role given to him, and make it shine. Even Stevens was awful, but not quite as bad as Even Stevens: The Movie, but I always thought he was funny.

[esophagus]

A sidenote: His "sister" from Even Stevens got a record deal a couple years back. Lets just say he should have been the only one to catch a break.

[Labor_Days]

SPOILERS

Um, I just saw the movie.

Yup, it was a pretty silly "special effects extravaganza". At least they somewhat acknowledged they were making a silly popcorn movie and turned the movie into a comedy for about an hour in the middle. Which was more entertaining than the robots beating each other up, oddly enough. Mostly because of LaBoeuf. That kid is hella charismatic.

Shia LaBoeuf's performance is like a cross between Anthony Michael Hall in Sixteen Candles and Lloyd Dobler of Say Anything. By the time Berlin started playing on his radio, I was totally rooting for him to get the girl. The scene where LaBoeuf's mother was asking him about masturbation was about as clever as the recent Nightwing Annual (http://farm1.static.flickr.com/228/465628754_d61b54342e_o.png) though.

Then Bumblebee pissed on John Turturro. The movie sorta got worse after that...

BUT Megatron was pretty cool. And that scene with the robot destroying the fighter jets was also very cool. Lots of slo-mo and bullet time at the end of the movie. It was like the Matrix only with better acting (har har).


p.s. The little robot that was hacking the computers turned into a boombox. May have been Soundwave.

[acomicbookgirl]

SPOILERS


p.s. The little robot that was hacking the computers turned into a boombox. May have been Soundwave.

Not exactly.. That was a reject..

[esophagus]

Are you sure it wasn't soundwave? I thought I read somewhere it was supposed to be his small role in the movie.

Nevermind figured it out. Blackout was originally supposed to be Soundwave, but that fell through. Then they Made Soundbyte. He was Soundwave through the filming but in the end they thought it was just belittling to the original character, and changed his name. Thank you Wikipedia.

[fred]

It almost sounds like you spoke too soon earlier and that you didn't think it was the worst movie ever.

Who would've thought that actually seeing it would inform your opinion?

[Ekval]

I thought it was great...an awesome summer flick. As Jurassic said earlier, not every movie has to be the most intellectually redeeming thing of all time. Not that those films suck either, nor that every action flick is very good, but this one...it was great even though I could have done without any long speeches by Optimus.

[Labor_Days]

It almost sounds like you spoke too soon earlier and that you didn't think it was the worst movie ever.
Think you missed the part where I mentioned Bumblebee pissed on a dude. Was going to mention the "jive talking" pop-locking robot but thought it would be in poor taste.

Who would've thought that actually seeing it would inform your opinion?Well, I guess I should give that new Thor ongoing a shot too. :rolleyes:

[ConorKilpatrick]

SPOILERSThe scene where LaBoeuf's mother was asking him about masturbation was about as clever as the recent Nightwing Annual (http://farm1.static.flickr.com/228/465628754_d61b54342e_o.png) though.

You're right - that scene was pretty funny. :)

[Labor_Days]

You're right - that scene was pretty funny. :)Best damn comic of 2007. High five, dude.

[kwok_talk]

In case you want even more opinions thrown in the mix, Totally Rad Show has a very polarized response to the movie on their most recent episode.

[JurassicAlien]

Not exactly.. That was a reject..

It wasn't Soundwave or a Soundwave wanna be, Soundwave (it's been said in MANY intrerviews) is going to be a big character in the next one.

[acomicbookgirl]

It wasn't Soundwave or a Soundwave wanna be, Soundwave (it's been said in MANY intrerviews) is going to be a big character in the next one.


I'll believe it when I see it..

[acomicbookgirl]

Well, I guess I should give that new Thor ongoing a shot too. :rolleyes:

Go for it! No one is stopping you.. Not everyone here should like the same exact thing.. Just because a couple of people aren't buying it, doesn't mean that you have to follow along with them.. :D

[Labor_Days]

I made a lot of snap judgments about Thor earlier this week. But I had REASONS! Damnit all to hell, I had reasons...

[acomicbookgirl]

Its cool. I just think you shouldn't be so adamant about something that you haven't even seen.. Don't be so judgemental.

[JAFlanagan]

OK, we all get it. Labor Days will never do it again. He understands the error of his ways, and we understand that he's not trying to be a jerk.

Let's leave that alone now.

[Humphrey Lee]

I saw it yesterday and eh, shit blew up I guess. It was a Michael Bay film, which means yeah, stuff happened and shit blew up. Which is fine, but I already saw shit blow up much better in Die Hard last week. It was a good way to keep my streak up (11 weeks in a row now at the theater for a new movie) but eh, I'll probably never watch it again.

[ConorKilpatrick]

From PvPonline.com

http://www.pvponline.com/images/3164.gif

[kahunablair]

F'in A Conor! Thanks for posting that.

[ConorKilpatrick]

MORE THAN MEETS THE EYE
Thursday, July 5 2007

Paramount's Transformers continued to dominate the 4th of July box office, earning $28.69 million on the Wednesday holiday, bringing its total since Monday to $64.89 million.