The General Movie Thread [Archive] - Page 8

horatio616

11-05-2007, 02:36 PM

Hmm, yeah. I enjoyed 28 Weeks Later.

That opening sequence with the dad and mom in the country house was intense. I was rather surprised by how often the film had me clutching the arm chair.

It was great experience in the theater, and usually I wouldn't say that. The entire audience was stunned to silence through the whole thing. I like going to movies where when the credits roll, the audience sits quietly murmuring.

Yes, the opening sequence was chilling. The score was fantastic as well.

mikegraham6

11-05-2007, 02:56 PM

Hmm, yeah. I enjoyed 28 Weeks Later.

That opening sequence with the dad and mom in the country house was intense. I was rather surprised by how often the film had me clutching the arm chair.

that was by far the best part of the movie, but ya, i admit that im in the minority when it comes to hating that movie. I saw it in theatres and i was glad i did but it wasn't a movie i needed to see twice

six-gun

11-05-2007, 03:46 PM

superfriend82

11-05-2007, 03:57 PM

Oh My God I Was Rewachinh Tranesfomers On Dvd And Magen Fox Is So H-o-t!!!!

six-gun

11-05-2007, 03:58 PM

Oh My God I Was Rewachinh Tranesfomers On Dvd And Magen Fox Is So H-o-t!!!!

she is a babe

esophagus

11-05-2007, 07:24 PM

I took my girls to see Bee Movie and I was surprised that at no point did I want to pinch off my jugular and let the darkness take me. It was witty and the animation and voice-acting was top-notch. Not a bad experience.I was boycotting it because it looked Tacky and was so over-advertised, but I may just have to go see it now.

superfriend82

11-06-2007, 12:32 AM

I was Dan in real life this weekend. It was a ok fam comdey.

esophagus

11-06-2007, 12:35 AM

I was Dan in real life this weekend.That's fun. I was Esophagus on the internet.

On my way out the door to go see Pierrepoint: The Last Hangman (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0462477/).

superfriend82

11-06-2007, 12:43 AM

That's fun. I was Esophagus on the internet.

Um..........What?!

horatio616

11-06-2007, 01:05 AM

That's fun. I was Esophagus on the internet.

On my way out the door to go see Pierrepoint: The Last Hangman (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0462477/).

Har! High five on that one...

six-gun

11-06-2007, 01:23 AM

Um..........What?!

think about it

kahunablair

11-06-2007, 01:34 AM

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/071101/dewey_l.jpg

Entertainment Weekly has the title track of Walk Hard on their site.

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20155516_20155530_20156000,00.html

I cannot wait for this movie!

itsbecca

11-06-2007, 02:33 AM

That's fun. I was Esophagus on the internet.

On my way out the door to go see Pierrepoint: The Last Hangman (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0462477/).

I just. Have so much trouble. He was wormtail.

esophagus

11-06-2007, 03:26 AM

I just. Have so much trouble. He was wormtail.I think I missed something.

Anyways, Pierrepoint was awesome. For those who don't know the story Albert Pierrepoint hung an estimated 600 people in his career as an executioner. This included both a group of Nazi war criminals, and one of his best friends. He was considered to be the best and fastest executioner in Britain. Eventually he gave up, and became an advocate against capital punishment. The movie was a memoir of his career. It was really quite moving, and brilliantly done.

paper

11-06-2007, 11:39 AM

Wormtail is a character in Harry Potter. The lead actor in Pierrepoint played him in the movies.

I saw the trailer for this recently. Looks good.

six-gun

11-06-2007, 11:54 AM

We talked a lot about the strike over in the TV thread but I actually have an English teacher with an optioned screenplay that may benefit from the strike.

paper

11-06-2007, 12:13 PM

The hope is that a lot of writers will. ;)

six-gun

11-06-2007, 03:09 PM

a lot of his talks have been with the British film industry but he may move on to LA

esophagus

11-06-2007, 06:41 PM

Wormtail is a character in Harry Potter. The lead actor in Pierrepoint played him in the movies.

I saw the trailer for this recently. Looks good.Oooh. Well I'm glad he got himself out of that mess. He really shines in this film. The fact that I didn't realize Wormtail existed, let alone was played by him, tells me it was a fairly small role. Pierrepoint was great.

esophagus

11-06-2007, 06:42 PM

The hope is that a lot of writers will. ;)
Anyone that got greenlighted right before this, as many movies did, are going to get lucky. That's not what you meant, but yeah.

gungadin

11-06-2007, 07:17 PM

But think about the probable drop in quality that'll result from this strike with everything being all rushed...

esophagus

11-09-2007, 06:45 AM

I just finished watching Factory Girl. Stunning. I'm the biggest Warhol fan alive. I've read biography after biography, and love all of his art. You can't have Andy without having the Factory, and you can't have the Factory without Edie. With that, I found all of these portrayals to be dead on. The writing was fantastic, but can't even compare to the acting. I was blown away by all of the performances. I mean come on. If I told you I had a movie with Mena Suvari, Jimmy Fallon, and Hayden Christensen, would you get excited? No. But this blew it out of the park anyways. Guy Pearce was an amazing Warhol. He looked perfect, and he had the quiet eccentric demeanour. Sienne Miller has certainly been in her share of good films lately, but I don't think she's ever been the shining star quite as much as she is here. A++++

One question though, does anyone know who Billy "The Musician" was supposed to be? I just kind of assumed Bob Dylan based off of looks and demeanour, but I have no idea.

mikegraham6

11-09-2007, 02:56 PM

Speaking of Bob Dylan, i just saw the trailer for the Bob Dylan biopic and it looks friggin' AWESOME!!

labor_days

11-09-2007, 03:32 PM

I adored Miller in Factory Girl. Christensen, not so much.

Mike, Don't Look Back will blow your mind. Saw it last week and it's very good.

mikegraham6

11-09-2007, 03:34 PM

It's out?!?!?!?.......To the Movieplex!!

labor_days

11-09-2007, 03:48 PM

Ooops, a bit scatterbrain this morning. I meant to say I'm Not There up above. Bale and Blanchet give incredible performances.

Don't Look Back is the superb Dylan documentary.

cam-

11-09-2007, 04:10 PM

I just watched "The Number 23"

Why god, whyyyyyyy.

My wife rented it, and as it began I literally said, "Schumacher? oh god no"

She owes me.

mikegraham6

11-09-2007, 05:52 PM

I just watched "The Number 23"

Why god, whyyyyyyy.

My wife rented it, and as it began I literally said, "Schumacher? oh god no"

She owes me.

that's one of the worst movies i've ever seen.... EVER

the concept seemed interesting, but it wasn't. I figured, even though it was Joel Schumacher, i'd give it chance. I will NEVER, no matter how cool it looks, see a Schumacher film again. Jim carrey also sucked all kinda ass in it, that wasn't acting.

esophagus

11-09-2007, 06:15 PM

Jim carrey also sucked all kinda ass in it, that wasn't acting.Really? I thought it was a bad movie, but Carrey was what kept the TV on for me. He wasn't amazing by any means, but I thought he did pretty good.

esophagus

11-09-2007, 06:16 PM

I adored Miller in Factory Girl. Christensen, not so much. His faux-voice annoyed the hell out of me. But, he definitely had Star Wars beat. I think it was more his character that annoyed me in Factory Girl, more than it was his acting.

six-gun

11-09-2007, 06:19 PM

Going to try American Gangster again

esophagus

11-09-2007, 06:20 PM

Going to try American Gangster againMe too, a little bit later.

cam-

11-09-2007, 06:21 PM

Really? I thought it was a bad movie, but Carrey was what kept the TV on for me. He wasn't amazing by any means, but I thought he did pretty good.

I don't know I felt his natural ability for comedy made his performance feel so forced, like he was trying to play it straight but having a real hard time.

As if he was going to turn to the camera at any moment and break the fourth wall.

It just felt off to me.

six-gun

11-09-2007, 06:23 PM

I adored Miller in Factory Girl. Christensen, not so much.

Mike, Don't Look Back will blow your mind. Saw it last week and it's very good.

Not near me :(

esophagus

11-10-2007, 04:47 AM

Just got back from American Gangster, and I'm completely in love. It was this masterpiece of an epic, that showed us the development of both Lucas and Ritchie. It was fantastically well done, and extremely accurate. The best part? The acting was completely on par with the fantastic writing. I can't think of a single portrayal I would have changed. There was one scene in particular, of Thanksgiving, that I really enjoyed. Good jusxtaposition of the characters. Wow. I'd write more, but I can't think of anything negative. Oh, there was one thing. A minor detail.

SLIGHT SLIGHT SPOILER... Not really if you know the Frank Lucas story out of the movie

They kind of made it look like the drugs only came in through coffins at the end there, where in reality they came that way for most of the time he distributed.

labor_days

11-10-2007, 05:00 AM

They kind of made it look like the drugs only came in through coffins at the end there, where in reality they came that way for most of the time he distributed.
Um, what? It didn't seem ike that at all. That was the reveal as to how Lucas was bringing the drugs in.

esophagus

11-10-2007, 05:02 AM

Um, what? It didn't seem ike that at all. That was the reveal as to how Lucas was bringing the drugs in.I know. I just thought that the way they placed it with the "Ill figure out what to do" at the end of the war made it feel like it was someting new. I knew it wasn't though, so it didn't bug me. It was just the only thing I could think of to point out.

six-gun

11-10-2007, 05:09 AM

sounds great

labor_days

11-10-2007, 02:22 PM

I know. I just thought that the way they placed it with the "Ill figure out what to do" at the end of the war made it feel like it was someting new. I knew it wasn't though, so it didn't bug me. It was just the only thing I could think of to point out.

Lucas said that because the war was ending and US troops were pulling out.

Cousin: "Frank, the war is over. No more US planes are flying."
Lucas: 'I'll figure something out."

Btw, I expect all of you to go out and see No Country For Old Men this weekend. Spectacular.

paper

11-10-2007, 05:54 PM

I don't think No Country For Old Men goes wide until the 21st.

esophagus

11-10-2007, 06:55 PM

Lucas said that because the war was ending and US troops were pulling out.

Cousin: "Frank, the war is over. No more US planes are flying."
Lucas: 'I'll figure something out."I understood that. But this isn't worth arguing.

labor_days

11-10-2007, 07:17 PM

I understood that. But this isn't worth arguing.

Wasn't arguing dude. I was trying to help clear up your confusion. As the film did not suggest what you said earlier.

esophagus

11-10-2007, 07:19 PM

Wasn't arguing dude. I was trying to help clear up your confusion. As the film did not suggest what you said earlier.There's no confusion to be cleared. I knew the whole Lucas story, so I knew what was going on. I'm just saying that I tohught the fact that they never showed how it came in until he said he didn't know what he'd do next kind of made it come off like it was something new. I know they didn't try and do it that way, and I'm sure a lot of people caught on, I'm just saying. That's the way it felt to me.

fred

11-10-2007, 07:20 PM

I'm thinking of seeing Wristcutters: A Love Story with Patrick Fugit tonight. Has anyone seen it? The concept seems odd enough to be cool.

esophagus

11-10-2007, 07:22 PM

I'm thinking of seeing Wristcutters: A Love Story with Patrick Fugit tonight. Has anyone seen it? The concept seems odd enough to be cool.
I've been looking for it. It looks really good.

fred

11-10-2007, 07:26 PM

love Fugit. he was awesome in almost famous and saved

esophagus

11-11-2007, 03:50 AM

So... The Hawk Is Dying... What can I say about this? It was such a weird experience. It's like the only way I could have gotten through it would be too tape my eyes open, and I actually felt like I should be taping them. The acting was fantastic, as is the case in most movies with Paul Giammati. There were a lot of nobodies in it, the commentary actual says that they hired most actors locally before filming. The acting was, however, the only reason it was worth watching. There is no other reason to watch two hours of a man failing as a hawk trainer.

superfriend82

11-11-2007, 03:56 AM

i saw american gangster tonight it was good. i give it a 7 or so.

fred

11-11-2007, 04:07 AM

I've been looking for it. It looks really good.

it indeed was very good.

esophagus

11-11-2007, 04:08 AM

it indeed was very good.Yes! It was definitley one that could go either way. I'm excited now.

fred

11-11-2007, 05:38 AM

I'm kind of at a loss to describe it at the moment. It was very well written and the performances kicked ass.

It has a lot of different little odd elements to it. It's like a funny character growth love story inspried in part by Dante's Inferno.

But you should see it anyway, I've done it no justice with that description.

It was very good.

paper

11-11-2007, 01:25 PM

Ok. For anyone who's seen 28 Weeks Later, show of hands:

Was anybody disappointed when the zombie element was reintroduced about 45 minutes in? I felt the human story was so much more interesting. I might have loved this if the opening sequence was the only zombie element.

Though...SPOILER...........This rooftop-kill everybody-no exceptions-thing going on right now is an interesting place to go.

paper

11-11-2007, 01:33 PM

Ok, I'm going back and forth on this movie like nothing else. Every time I think it's totally ****ed up and lost me, it goes in a different direction. I guess I'm on board.

fred

11-11-2007, 02:56 PM

I didn't really care for it. I liked the first one, and I ultimately felt that the second one was unnecessary and not very well done. You can see my exact thoughts on it if you go back about 1200-1300 posts in the thread.

fred

11-11-2007, 03:01 PM

it just really rubbed me the wrong way.

Few Things:

1. There was no reason for it in the first place. It was a really shallow justification for a sequel.
2. The ending left an opening for a third unneccesary movie.
3. There weren't any infected people until at least 40 minutes into the 90 minute movie. The beginning was all set up.
4. The plot points involving the "lone American soldier" and "altruistic doctor" fighting to save the "people immune to the disease" was just really weak. I wasn't into it.
5. The kids finding the mother alive was retarded. This is a larger problem in that it's the linchpin for the whole plot more or less.

6. Back to the ending, how could that happen? There are 2 unlikely ways:A. The 12 year old boy was a carrier but not infected. He would be sent to a refugee camp in France. He would have to SHARE HIS BODILY FLUIDS with someone in order for them to contract it. A sequel based on someone diddling a kid, great idea.B. The Infected ran from London all the way through the English countryside into the Chunnel under the ocean to Calais in France. Approximate distance of this trip: 105 miles. It would take them a minimum of 3 days to travel that provided they didn't stop to kill anyone along the way. You're telling me the French authorities couldn't get their side of the Chunnel sealed off in 3 days?
Really, I could keep going on this but I think I've made my point. I'm glad you liked it. It wasn't my thing at all. And I did so love the first one.

Ok. I found it. The discussion starts around post #375 but this is my closing argument if you will.

paper

11-11-2007, 03:25 PM

I gave it a 3. I liked the conceit at the opening of the film. The "protagonist" wussing out, leaving his wife to die and then having to live with that. I was really enjoying the film up to the point where the kids run off to their old house. I kept adjusting my expectations. Ok, we have the mom now. Well, maybe this could be interesting seeing how dad deals with that. But then that all gets chucked out the window when he gets infected. I absolutely hated it for a while when the zombie outbreak was taking place. I agree with every other review that says the containment thing was idiotic.

I didn't mind the soldier or the doctor. Immunity idea and the epilogue were all pretty stupid.

esophagus

11-11-2007, 05:25 PM

I never saw it. The first one was amazing, and a sequel seemed to risky for me to ruin it.

itsbecca

11-11-2007, 06:21 PM

I loved the sequel. It was everything I was hoping for from Day of the Dead, that is what happens later? Living with the threat. But DotD fell pretty flat with the stilted zombie learning curve thing. The opening scene was amazing. I think most people agree with that. I can understand why people were annoyed with the narrative between the beggining and then the new outbreak, but I wasn't. I didn't want to 28 Days Later again, what would be the point in that? I was interested in what was happening after and the adjustment. The mixture of trepidation and hope, the false sense of security in the children who had hadn't seen the virus firsthand, the guilt of the father and his need for redemption through giving the best to his children - so strong that it even carried through his infection. I also thought the absolute desperation of the occupation army to not let reinfection happen read very well (similar ****ed tone as the mansion twist in 28 days). It also carried the beautiful look and beautiful score that I enjoyed so much in the first film.

I also agree the paris end was weird. I just cut it out of my memory honestly.

labor_days

11-11-2007, 06:50 PM

Pretty sure Shoot 'Em Up is one of the worst movies I ever seen.

fred

11-11-2007, 06:50 PM

labor_days

11-11-2007, 06:53 PM

re: 28 days later

eh, it's not for me. I'm a child of the '80s though, so I tend to look dimly upon sequels. Back then, if you did any box office at all you were guaranteed a sequel. Weekend at Bernie's, Mannequin, Police Academy, Halloween, the list goes on and on.

You bad mouthin' Short Circuit 2, Fred?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/31/Short_circuit_two_ver2.jpg

itsbecca

11-11-2007, 06:57 PM

Pretty sure Shoot 'Em Up is one of the worst movies I ever seen.

From the descriptions I've heard it sounds like a Crank already accomplished the goal of this film, but with an actual plot. Plus I got to see Jason Statham's bum. Win win.

itsbecca

11-11-2007, 06:58 PM

paper

11-11-2007, 06:58 PM

Weekend at Bernie's II is the most fun a person can have while still wearing their clothes. And if you do decide to go commando...

Well I know what movie I'll be watching on my deathbed.

fred

11-11-2007, 06:59 PM

You bad mouthin' Short Circuit 2, Fred?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/31/Short_circuit_two_ver2.jpg

that's my word

fred

11-11-2007, 06:59 PM

But 80's horror... is so horrible.

I'm with you on that

paper

11-11-2007, 07:07 PM

This decade hasn't been much kinder to the genre.

fred

11-11-2007, 07:11 PM

You're right there too. Saw, The Ring, and the like have done their damage.

itsbecca

11-11-2007, 07:33 PM

This decade hasn't been much kinder to the genre.

I'd beg to differ. There's been plenty of bad, but I've still been horrified on multiple occasions. The only film from the 80's I think of that has any replay value is aliens.

paper

11-11-2007, 08:48 PM

I can't think of anything legitimately scary recently. I'm not saying there's nothing good or even great, but there's a whole lot of terrible.

paper

11-11-2007, 08:49 PM

The only film from the 80's I think of that has any replay value is aliens.

Strictly in terms of horror you mean. Not all 80s movies. Right?

labor_days

11-11-2007, 08:57 PM

Re-watching Mutual Appreciation (http://www.mutualappreciation.com/) now.

Man, is this film ever brilliant. The mistake was mine in not giving the film a higher standing on my EOY lists.

http://img28.picoodle.com/img/img28/5/11/11/f_20060911mutm_ff94169.jpg

So wonderful. Every once in awhile you just gotta watch something that reminds you why the cinema is.

itsbecca

11-11-2007, 09:53 PM

Strictly in terms of horror you mean. Not all 80s movies. Right?

I did mean just for horror. I'm not a huge fan of 80's film trends overall, but there's definitley some gems, so I couldn't say something quite so flippant.

fred

11-11-2007, 09:57 PM

re: Mutual Appreciation

I'm intrigued by the high praise in the link. I've added it to my queue at #6.

paper

11-11-2007, 10:01 PM

I'll see your 6 and raise you a 4!

fred

11-11-2007, 10:06 PM

There's logjam at the top. There are some things that I really want to see that keep getting bumped.

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u116/fredhosley/scr.gif

Fabulous! The Story of Queer Cinema has been in that same relative position for three months. Smokin' Aces and Casion Royale have had the same problem.

labor_days

11-11-2007, 10:06 PM

re: Mutual Appreciation

I'm intrigued by the high praise in the link. I've added it to my queue at #6.

It got pretty good reviews (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/mutual_appreciation/).

I love how personal and real it feels. I am not yet so old that I can't remember what it was like to be in that time of your life were your just trying to find a way to make it work.

labor_days

11-11-2007, 10:08 PM

Kiss Kiss Bang Bang is terrific.

fred

11-11-2007, 10:10 PM

Kiss Kiss Bang Bang is terrific.

It also is no stranger to the top 10 in my queue.

labor_days

11-13-2007, 12:28 AM

Second time watching Sunshine. My girl's mind is being blown by imagining the man-on-man action between Evans and Murphy. I'd be lying if I said, I wasn't feeling a bit turned on too...

http://img28.picoodle.com/img/img28/5/11/12/labor_days/f_vlcsnap4105m_193bfeb.jpg

http://img30.picoodle.com/img/img30/5/11/12/labor_days/f_vlcsnap4459m_44dfe74.jpg

Oh yeah. Good movie too.

paper

11-13-2007, 12:30 AM

Can I ask how you're watching this now? It's not on DVD yet is it? I missed it in theaters.

labor_days

11-13-2007, 12:36 AM

I've had the DVD screener for months. Girlfriend has never seen it. I saw it in the movieplex.

itsbecca

11-13-2007, 12:38 AM

My girl's mind is being blown by imagining the man-on-man action between Evans and Murphy. I'd be lying if I said, I wasn't feeling a bit turned on too...

...Wha wha WHAAAAA?!

hoooohhoohoooo. hehehehehe haaaah.

lantern4life

11-13-2007, 05:28 PM

Sunshine was a wonderful experience

labor_days

11-16-2007, 05:34 PM

Not sure if I really want to see Southland Tales or not. But it seems that may be the case tonight.

Yay, me?

six-gun

11-16-2007, 06:22 PM

Going to see Beowulf tonight, I'm excited

kahunablair

11-16-2007, 06:42 PM

Not sure if I really want to see Southland Tales or not. But it seems that may be the case tonight.

Yay, me?

I'm in the same boat. I just saw a review that gave it ZERO stars. I was so looking forward to it too.

luthor

11-16-2007, 06:53 PM

I want to see it, simply because just about every type of pop culture I geek out for is represented in it in someway, unfortunately it's not playing here. Which is just stupid.

Beowulf has the new trailer for Cloverfield playing in front of it. Might be worth seeing just for that.

labor_days

11-16-2007, 07:42 PM

I'm in the same boat. I just saw a review that gave it ZERO stars. I was so looking forward to it too.

I really didn't like Donnie Darko all that much. But my friends are pushing me to see this. The trailer looked awful and the reviews don't encourage me either.

Utter a prayer for me tonight Kahuna. For I will be fighting the urge to gouge out my eyes with my slurpee straw.

Gotta learn to tell people "no" sometimes. :-(

cam-

11-16-2007, 07:45 PM

No you don't. :)

labor_days

11-16-2007, 08:16 PM

Do not think the irony was lost on me when one of the filmspotting critics remarked that the Transformers cartoon was less "cartoony" than the Michael Bay movie of the same title.

/snort

kahunablair

11-16-2007, 08:25 PM

I really didn't like Donnie Darko all that much. But my friends are pushing me to see this. The trailer looked awful and the reviews don't encourage me either.
Utter a prayer for me tonight Kahuna. For I will be fighting the urge to gouge out my eyes with my slurpee straw.
Gotta learn to tell people "no" sometimes. :-(

I eagerly await your critique, my good man. The concept is so bizarre that I had high hopes, but I haven't heard one good thing about it.

As far as Donny Darko goes, I wasn't a fan the first time I saw it. It felt to disjointed and bizarre. The second time I watched it though, I loved it.

esophagus

11-16-2007, 09:14 PM

Do not think the irony was lost on me when one of the filmspotting critics remarked that the Transformers cartoon was less "cartoony" than the Michael Bay movie of the same title.

/snortHeh. I enjoyed that too. I hadn't ever thought of it in such terms, but yeah. They're right.

esophagus

11-16-2007, 09:16 PM

six-gun

11-17-2007, 03:42 AM

Beowulf sucked, hard

The Cloverfieldtrailer? very swank :D

itsbecca

11-17-2007, 05:31 AM

Beowulf sucked, hard

I freakin knew it!!! I'm being coerced into going tomorrow and I'm not looking forward to it. It just is not something I'm interested in at all. The original story doesn't interest me (kind of the superman factor going for it), I do have a bit more leniency for movies, because they're less of an investment and I can go for a rawr rawr kill the beast sort of thing. But I'm completley turned off by the animation choice. Why animate something you can do better in real life? They're different mediums and they should be used for their best, not just to say "Look what we can do". That's not filmmaking that's bragging. Blech.

six-gun

11-17-2007, 02:08 PM

Actually, my biggest gripe with the movie is that Gaimen changed the story so much that the larger than life Superman aspect of Beowulf is gone and replaced with an odd sense of vulnerability that just doesn't fit the epic

there's a reason that Beowulf has lasted so long, it's because it's brilliant. Neil Gaimen just isn't a good enough writer to change it so drastically (I don't know of any that are)

paper

11-17-2007, 02:14 PM

But does epic confidence translate well to film? You need some vulnerability to give the audience a character they can relate to. It also increases the drama. Haven't seen the film yet, but it's just something to think about.

How does it compare to something like 300?

labor_days

11-17-2007, 02:16 PM

You don't want to see Southland Tales.

Real talk.

labor_days

11-17-2007, 04:04 PM

horatio616

11-17-2007, 04:12 PM

Watching Superbad on the laptop now.

Eh, even less funny than the first time I saw it. Since they were doing their damnedest to be crass; why didn't the filmmakers just give up the ghost and admit that Seth was gay?

Would that have been so bad? Certainly would have preferred that to this limp "I love my best friend.." copout or more female degradation.

Menstrual blood, really? Come on.

But isn't that the point though? To show that it's okay for guys to love each other in a brotherly sort of way without fear of being labelled 'gay'? Or am I giving the movie too much credit?

Southland Tales sounds like an interesting idea with really pretentious execution. I don't think I'll be watching it.

labor_days

11-17-2007, 04:15 PM

Or am I giving the movie too much credit?

Too much credit. The film didn't go out of it's way to make Seth's preoccupations subtle. So why not just go all in?

The movie had no problem with being vulgar.

Southland Tales sounds like an interesting idea with really pretentious execution.

More pretentious they you can imagine. It's a horrible mess of ideas. None of them work.

The Filmspotting critics gave it a somewhat middling review. They lied. It's atrocious.

senoj1

11-17-2007, 05:04 PM

I have faith in Richard Kelly so i still will try to see it even though the heavy negativity. Superbad is what you thought high school was supposed to be. I liked it because of how outrageous it was and it was entertaining.

paper

11-17-2007, 05:55 PM

Too much credit. The film didn't go out of it's way to make Seth's preoccupations subtle. So why not just go all in?

The movie had no problem with being vulgar.

So...homosexuality is vulgar? Be careful with your phrasing.

You've never encountered that kind of male relationship? There's nothing sexual about it. It's dependency. Seth has a confidence problem, and as an outcast, Evan is the only one who really paid any attention to him. And now he's leaving for college.

Like it or not, the comedy in Superbad is the type of humor you find in high school. It felt authentic.

labor_days

11-17-2007, 06:26 PM

So...homosexuality is vulgar? Be careful with your phrasing.

You've never encountered that kind of male relationship? There's nothing sexual about it. It's dependency. Seth has a confidence problem, and as an outcast, Evan is the only one who really paid any attention to him. And now he's leaving for college.

No, no.

Not Seth's relationship with the other kid (I forget his name), but his preoccupation with sex and maleness, specifically. The movie goes out of it's way to make Seth's preoccupation with "dicks" pretty clear.

"I need to see the penis going into the vagina. Ever seen a vag by itself? Not for me."

I don't think that's too subtle a subtext of where Seth's headspace is at. Add to that what feels like a copout of admitting his attraction to dudes- after talking about women in the most base of ways for 2 hours, using menstruation as a punchline and a plot that centers on getting girls drunk enough for sex.

If you're going to be as crass as possible about those things; why wuss out at the end? Because it might be too much for the 16-22 year old audience your cultivating? That's not to say being gay is crass. Only that if you don't have a problem making jokes at the expense of women- why is admitting Seth likes dudes so wrong?

I gave the movie a shot twice now. Not for my tastes. I think it's fairly awful and insulting.

(Paper, I meant the movie was vulgar. Not Homosexuality. Good catch. Terrible phrasing on my part.)

six-gun

11-17-2007, 09:01 PM

so am I the only one to have slogged through Beowulf?

senoj1

11-17-2007, 09:13 PM

how was the cloverfield trailer? That was the only reason i was going to go.

six-gun

11-17-2007, 09:22 PM

how was the cloverfield trailer? That was the only reason i was going to go.

brilliant, my only worry is that I don't think we're ever going to get a good look at the monster in the film which bothers me a lot

six-gun

11-17-2007, 09:23 PM

there was also a trailer for a U2 concert in 3D from National Geographic channel that looked awesome

senoj1

11-17-2007, 09:33 PM

brilliant, my only worry is that I don't think we're ever going to get a good look at the monster in the film which bothers me a lot

I heard that. Thats somewhat dissapointing but i guess its not to bad since it coming so soon. I just can't wait to go see No County for Old Men. I just found out there are a couple of showings at my local theater.

paper

11-17-2007, 10:10 PM

brilliant, my only worry is that I don't think we're ever going to get a good look at the monster in the film which bothers me a lot

....why? That's great news if it's true.

conorkilpatrick

11-17-2007, 10:19 PM

....why? That's great news if it's true.

Agreed. My imagination is fierce.

And scary.

six-gun

11-17-2007, 10:23 PM

I know a bunch of you guys would dog pile my statement ;) I just hate when movies don't show you the main villain it's a pet peeve of mine, I'm fine if you leave it up to my imagination for most of the film but I think at least a brief glimpse of the big baddie (I like how Spielberg did it in War of the Worlds)

paper

11-17-2007, 10:57 PM

Psssssst. Use an example of a good movie, Six. ;)

I don't think you're in the minority on that opinion. I think most people want to see the reveal.

I just think that nine times out of ten you're let down when you do get that reveal. Because the imagination is so powerful. And it's not just the limits of technology, the inability to recreate the horrors of the imagination in pixels. It's also that knowledge is power. We fear what we don't know. See the beast and know it's face? It's not so scary anymore.

six-gun

11-17-2007, 11:05 PM

Psssssst. Use an example of a good movie, Six. ;)

Yeah, but I did like how the reveal was handled

paper

11-17-2007, 11:20 PM

It was....alright. Would have been more interesting without it. Same goes for Signs.

six-gun

11-17-2007, 11:24 PM

It was....alright. Would have been more interesting without it. Same goes for Signs.

I looooved that birthday part scene when the alien first shows, it really creeped me out

luthor

11-17-2007, 11:25 PM

Signs scares the crap out of me. I have nightmares for weeks every time I watch it.

labor_days

11-17-2007, 11:33 PM

Signs was an interesting failure for me. I like what the film had to say about faith and forgiveness but the aliens, man. Ugh.

paper

11-17-2007, 11:37 PM

Gosh, I wonder if all those glasses of water have anything to do with the aliens and the the climax of the film?

Lame.

Shyamalan made two great movies and then disappeared, never to touch a camera again.

labor_days

11-17-2007, 11:41 PM

Two too many, Paper. ;-)

paper

11-17-2007, 11:47 PM

Really? What's your snobby reason for disliking Sixth Sense? Unbreakable is a personal favorite, but Sixth Sense is pretty damn good.

fred

11-18-2007, 12:07 AM

I liked The Sixth Sense as well.

Signs and The Village were horrid. I felt no desire to see any of the others after those 2. I've heard about Lady in the Water and I'm glad that I didn't see it.

six-gun

11-18-2007, 12:10 AM

I didn't say I liked Signs just that that one scene was good ;)

six-gun

11-18-2007, 12:11 AM

Really? What's your snobby reason for disliking Sixth Sense? Unbreakable is a personal favorite, but Sixth Sense is pretty damn good.

Labor isn't a movie snob!

He's in the Live Free or Die Hard defense force with me ;)

esophagus

11-18-2007, 12:12 AM

Sixth Sense was great. Definitely his best work. I haven't seen Unbreakable, because of his other failure, but I might rent it now.

Signs was horrible. Horrible horrible horrible. The reveal wasn't even the worst part. There's just that huge "lets invade Earth. But remember folks, 75% of this planet could kill us, so be careful." plot hole that bugs the hell out me.

paper

11-18-2007, 12:13 AM

We're attacking the terrible movie. Not you, Six.

Unbreakable is neat. I like the concept. I shouldn't have called it great, but it's still very interesting.

horatio616

11-18-2007, 12:15 AM

The Sixth Sense was a great movie experience. The scene with Osment and Collette in the car at the end was moving. I think Mischa Barton was actually method acting in the movie. It would explain why she weighs 75lbs.

I wish the ending of Unbreakable had been better executed. It's really a good film.

Shyamalan at one time considered adapting Life of Pi, but didn't want to do another film with a 'surprise' ending. Too bad. I think the film could have done a lot to repair his rep.

horatio616

11-18-2007, 12:19 AM

esophagus

11-18-2007, 12:21 AM

Good thing they decided to attack when it wasn't raining!When I watched it I just had images of me and my sister out on the trampoline in the summer, when we were little, with the sprinkler underneath, and a bunch of aliens were on the deck screaming to retreat.

horatio616

11-18-2007, 12:29 AM

When I watched it I just had images of me and my sister out on the trampoline in the summer, when we were little, with the sprinkler underneath, and a bunch of aliens were on the deck screaming to retreat.

Do you think it was scripted to be an alien in a suit but someone at the studio decided that it needed to be a monster? See, the guy knocks the helmet off with the baseball bat and then the water falls...

Makes slightly more sense that way.

paper

11-18-2007, 12:35 AM

Do you think it was scripted to be an alien in a suit but someone at the studio decided that it needed to be a monster? See, the guy knocks the helmet off with the baseball bat and then the water falls...

Makes slightly more sense that way.

....what? I'm not sure what you mean.

six-gun

11-18-2007, 12:37 AM

let's change the subject ;)

when's No Country For Old Men getting nationwide release?

paper

11-18-2007, 12:51 AM

Thanksgiving-ish, isn't it?

horatio616

11-18-2007, 12:55 AM

....what? I'm not sure what you mean.

I haven't seen Signs since its original release, so correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the alien just a big green lizard? Wouldn't it have made more sense for the alien to be wearing a water-tight suit whose helmet needs to be knocked off in order for the water to affect it? Again, I may have this totally wrong...

esophagus

11-18-2007, 12:58 AM

I haven't seen Signs since its original release, so correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the alien just a big green lizard? Wouldn't it have made more sense for the alien to be wearing a water-tight suit whose helmet needs to be knocked off in order for the water to affect it? Again, I may have this totally wrong...Most of Shyamalan's movies lead me to believe he doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt when it comes to his movies and the gaping plot holes within them.

paper

11-18-2007, 12:58 AM

labor_days

11-18-2007, 01:02 AM

Really? What's your snobby reason for disliking Sixth Sense? Unbreakable is a personal favorite, but Sixth Sense is pretty damn good.

Hmm. Can I get away with still being a snob by saying that I found both to be rather dull and tedious?

Should I go into more detail about how I think Shyamalan is an atrocious director w/r/t actors or has all the subtlety of a using a sledgehammer to drive in screws w/r/t foreshadowing and symbolism?

Honestly, I just think they're boring movies.

(obviously, I'm being a bit snarky here)

horatio616

11-18-2007, 01:06 AM

Oh, ok. Gotcha. A space suit probably wouldn't have been so scary. I'd imagine that it was always supposed to look like that, simply because Shyamalan wrote it and directed it. So the vision would remain consistent.

I thought it was just strange that this wasn't corrected at some point. Underestimating the common sense of the audience, I guess.

paper

11-18-2007, 01:10 AM

horatio616

11-18-2007, 01:14 AM

If I saw an alien (don't know why it's suddenly a "monster" just because it's naked) I'd grab a bat too. Not sure what needed to be corrected.

Why oh why am I defending one of the worst movies of the past 10 years?

Just saying that an alien that's smart enough for interstellar travel would probably know enough to wear a protective suit, just in case it rained or if the grass was particularly dewey that time of year or something. Someone would have pointed that out at some point during the making of the film you'd think.

esophagus

11-18-2007, 01:16 AM

If I saw an alien (don't know why it's suddenly a "monster" just because it's naked) I'd grab a bat too. Not sure what needed to be corrected.

Why oh why am I defending one of the worst movies of the past 10 years?It became a monster when it defied the pre-concieved notions that film has about what an alien looks like. It's a monster in the same way a hulking, rabes-infected dog is a monster.

I don't think he means that the scene itself needed to be corrected, so much
as the fact that these aliens were so impossible to kill, and didn't die sooner, despite the fact that our planet is covered in their one weakness, and it fills our air. Quite thick, in some places.

Edit: Oops Horatio beat me.

paper

11-18-2007, 01:18 AM

I assumed that they'd never encountered water before. It's a dumb thing to be deathly allergic to anyway. The original War of the World oxygen poison makes a lot more sense.

esophagus

11-18-2007, 01:21 AM

I assumed that they'd never encountered water before. It's a dumb thing to be deathly allergic to anyway. The original War of the World oxygen poison makes a lot more sense.That's what I pulled from it. Or at least I pulled that that was a plausability. I just never understood how they managed to get so far on our planet without encountering water. It's all the rage around here.

horatio616

11-18-2007, 01:24 AM

That's what I pulled from it. Or at least I pulled that that was a plausability. I just never understood how they managed to get so far on our planet without encountering water. It's all the rage around here.

All the kids are doing it.

Water water everywhere and not a drop to kill all these friggin' aliens with.

I apologize for that. I've had a few Coronas.

senoj1

11-18-2007, 01:46 AM

six-gun

11-18-2007, 03:16 AM

man, I wish my city got movies early

esophagus

11-18-2007, 03:34 AM

man, I wish my city got movies earlyI wish my city got movies period. I doubt No Country will come here.

tad

11-18-2007, 03:46 AM

Six Gun, did you see Beowulf in 3D? If so, how was that aspect of it.

itsbecca

11-18-2007, 04:19 AM

Six Gun, did you see Beowulf in 3D? If so, how was that aspect of it.

I saw it in Imax 3D. It was very beautiful. That was the only thing I liked about the film (it's beautiful animation, not the 3D in particular). It was fairly well done but near the end of the movie I was damn freaking ready to punch the person next to me if another freaking arrow flew at my face. Yeah. It's 3d. We get it. Stop throwing things at me god damnit.

Also, what's with the freaking dick infatuation. If it was made to be somewhat comedic in nature I could appreciate it, but... it was a pretty serious film. Then you throw in a freaking Austin Powers nudity scene and I just.. don't.. get it. Then there was about 5 other dick in peril scenes. Also, why do we get conspiciously placed objects in front of Beowolf and Hopkin's penis, but we get full on nude from Angelina Jolie (granted barbie dolled out a bit, but still)? It irks me on a very grand level.

But does epic confidence translate well to film? You need some vulnerability to give the audience a character they can relate to. It also increases the drama. Haven't seen the film yet, but it's just something to think about.

How does it compare to something like 300?

It's not vunerability. I don't want to spoil though... but for those who have seen it my thoughts....

SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER

If Beowolf is some strong dude who in the end is basically weak and gives in to temptation when offered money and a kingdom of his own, I get faced with a pretty basic question. Why the hell do we care about him then? I don't need to watch the story of some asshole. Particularly if it just ends in him getting glory and praise, because it's simpler to tell a grand tale then to bury a failure. The end scene also just made me put my head in my hands. This poor damn queen. Three kings and not one can she have without sharing him with a demon. What a patient, amazing woman. Seriously, how much more can this movie hate men?

Sigh.

fred

11-18-2007, 03:31 PM

I saw Into The Wild last night. I think I've seen somewhere in the neighborhood of 3000-4000 movies in my lifetime and Into The Wild was in the top 50 worst movies that I've ever seen. It took me two hours after it was over to come up with something positive to say about it.

The performances were horrible. Catherine Keener was the only person in the movie that didn't suck and she was only in it for about 20 minutes. Marcia Gay Harden, who is normally great, even sucked in this movie. William Hurt and Emile Hirsch (in particular) stunk up the ****ing screen for the entire movie. Jena Malone was ok in her 5 minutes. Vince Vaughn sucked in his 20.

The writing was horribly pretentious, obnoxious, and it didn't make any sense. There was an incredibly pretentious voiceover on the average of about every 4 or 5 minutes. The voiceovers were so ****ing bad that I literally laughed out loud at least 10 times during them. The story is based on a true story, but it's a fictionalized account of it. There's a lot of shit that happens that they can't possibly know. The real guy died. I would think that the job of the writer would be to make up shit that might actually have happened.

The camera work and photography in general were horribly pretentious. There were so many odd angles, crassly exposed symbolism, and "arty" jump cuts that you'd think it was filmed by a committee of everyone who has ever made a ridiculous perfume commercial.

The movie was far too long. The running time was somewhere just north of 140 minutes. There was so much fat and excess in the movie. It was sickening. Some people just need to learn to cut. I spent the entire movie wishing that my watch had a second hand.

The good thing? Hirsch actually looked like he was starving to death at the end. I had a good time thinking about how they pulled it off.

All in all, Sean Penn owes me $17. His writing and direction were terrible.

six-gun

11-18-2007, 03:32 PM

interesting, I've heard people say it was their movie of the year

fred

11-18-2007, 03:34 PM

it was horrid.

six-gun

11-18-2007, 03:34 PM

Six Gun, did you see Beowulf in 3D? If so, how was that aspect of it.

it threw me off a bit, it didn't work well with my eyeglasses

six-gun

11-18-2007, 03:37 PM

I saw it in Imax 3D. It was very beautiful. That was the only thing I liked about the film (it's beautiful animation, not the 3D in particular). It was fairly well done but near the end of the movie I was damn freaking ready to punch the person next to me if another freaking arrow flew at my face. Yeah. It's 3d. We get it. Stop throwing things at me god damnit.

Also, what's with the freaking dick infatuation. If it was made to be somewhat comedic in nature I could appreciate it, but... it was a pretty serious film. Then you throw in a freaking Austin Powers nudity scene and I just.. don't.. get it. Then there was about 5 other dick in peril scenes. Also, why do we get conspiciously placed objects in front of Beowolf and Hopkin's penis, but we get full on nude from Angelina Jolie (granted barbie dolled out a bit, but still)? It irks me on a very grand level.

It's not vunerability. I don't want to spoil though... but for those who have seen it my thoughts....

SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER

If Beowolf is some strong dude who in the end is basically weak and gives in to temptation when offered money and a kingdom of his own, I get faced with a pretty basic question. Why the hell do we care about him then? I don't need to watch the story of some asshole. Particularly if it just ends in him getting glory and praise, because it's simpler to tell a grand tale then to bury a failure. The end scene also just made me put my head in my hands. This poor damn queen. Three kings and not one can she have without sharing him with a demon. What a patient, amazing woman. Seriously, how much more can this movie hate men?

Sigh.

I agree with everything you said, yeah vulnerability is fine for a modern store, but Beowulf isn't vulnerable he just isn't! The story's been around for hundreds of years for a reason!

fred

11-18-2007, 03:45 PM

interesting, I've heard people say it was their movie of the year

and one more thing .... (I'm a bit fired up about it still)

The main character was one of the most unlikable, unsympathetic, and impossible to relate to characters that I've seen in a long time. He was a spoiled brat who had every opportunity to have a nice life and instead decided to commit long-form passive suicide like a ***** because his "childhood was a lie". I don't have any respect for him. I wish that he died sooner and more painfully. Everyone has problems. His weren't that bad. Trust me, people have lived through MUCH worse. And another thing, if you're going to kill yourself - just do it already. Don't make your family worry about where you are for two ****ing years. Just do it. Man the **** up and do it.

It was senseless.

labor_days

11-18-2007, 03:50 PM

Just saw No Country for Old Men and i liked it. Not loved it but really liked it.
Great action, acting and it was funny! However the theater i was in HATED it. Every single person i heard talking didn't like the ending at all.
I might gain some more appreciation after it digests.

I saw No Country about a month ago and predicted (http://www.revision3.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223423&postcount=1555) that the film's ending was going to be divisive once it hit general audiences.

I loved the movie though. My thoughts are further back in this thread. About ~10 pages or so back! Ha, thread moves fast.

fred

11-18-2007, 03:53 PM

I can't wait for No Country For Old Men. I've seen the trailer before a movie in each of the last two weeks. It looks great.

horatio616

11-18-2007, 03:59 PM

I saw No Country about a month ago and predicted (http://www.revision3.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223423&postcount=1555) that the film's ending was going to be divisive once it hit general audiences.

I loved the movie though. My thoughts are further back in this thread. About ~10 pages or so back! Ha, thread moves fast.

When I read the book I admit I felt a little cheated but it fit the tone of the book. Haven't seen the film yet but I assume that it wasn't changed from the book. I tend to be more accepting of downbeat endings in books more than movies though.

horatio616

11-18-2007, 04:05 PM

fred

11-18-2007, 04:29 PM

And I say word.

labor_days

11-18-2007, 04:31 PM

I didn't feel Into The Wild made a hero of McCandless. Penn's direction suggested a kind of allure to the wilderness that would draw someone of McCandless' leanings away from rational society. Which I am willing to buy in to.

He was troubled and completely f-ing stupid. I thought it was a tragedy for his family. What a selfish thing to do.

six-gun

11-18-2007, 04:47 PM

and one more thing .... (I'm a bit fired up about it still)

The main character was one of the most unlikable, unsympathetic, and impossible to relate to characters that I've seen in a long time. He was a spoiled brat who had every opportunity to have a nice life and instead decided to commit long-form passive suicide like a ***** because his "childhood was a lie". I don't have any respect for him. I wish that he died sooner and more painfully. Everyone has problems. His weren't that bad. Trust me, people have lived through MUCH worse. And another thing, if you're going to kill yourself - just do it already. Don't make your family worry about where you are for two ****ing years. Just do it. Man the **** up and do it.

It was senseless.

Well, if that was your only complaint then I would say that it is a great film, however your other ones invalidate that.

I haven't seen it yet, but the guy who loved it (one of the two non-familial people I respect most) has tastes that don't really gel with mine, while yours tend to so I'll take your word on it until I can see it on the Netflix

six-gun

11-18-2007, 04:51 PM

Penn's direction suggested a kind of allure to the wilderness

Which there is

the prose novel I'm reading in English class right now (Peace Like A River) deals with a similar idea of a runaway being made into a folk hero, however the character in Peace has a much more noble reason (he killed two people who had kidnapped his little sister) I think that I'll watch Into The Wild and before I write my essay on the book

paper

11-18-2007, 04:55 PM

I got lost in the woods behind my house once when I was 6. I was trying to get to the toy store. Vince Vaughan was there. He helped me build a catapult. I survived. I don't need to see Into the Wild. Sean Penn shouldn't be allowed to go near a camera after his performance in Mystic River.

labor_days

11-18-2007, 04:57 PM

Dear Paper,

Please do not mention the crime against humanity that is Mystic River ever again.

Thank you.

Sincerely, Labor Days

paper

11-18-2007, 05:00 PM

Gladly. More chewing in that movie than in a World Series dugout.

six-gun

11-18-2007, 05:05 PM

Are you being facetious Paper or do do you not like the outdoors in general? Nothing wrong either way, just curious

paper

11-18-2007, 05:09 PM

six-gun

11-18-2007, 05:19 PM

I like the outdoors. I don't like Sean Penn. The conceit of the film does not interest me. I trust Fred's judgment. From his description it sounds terrible. I don't have a lot of time to go to the movies these days, so I have to be selective.

Oh, okay I wasn't sure based on that one post :)

fred

11-18-2007, 06:31 PM

Gladly. More chewing in that movie than in a World Series dugout.

nice! I love that.

fred

11-18-2007, 06:32 PM

paper

11-18-2007, 06:36 PM

nice! I love that.

They should screen the scene at the zoo where the police are holding him back from the crime scene for acting students. Superimposed at the bottom of the screen: "Just...just no."

conorkilpatrick

11-18-2007, 08:48 PM

Mystic River = Awesome.

Sean Penn = Awesome.

fred

11-18-2007, 08:48 PM

meesa think yousa crazy ;)

conorkilpatrick

11-18-2007, 08:50 PM

They should screen the scene at the zoo where the police are holding him back from the crime scene for acting students. Superimposed at the bottom of the screen: "Just...just no."

Sure. Don't emulate one of the greatest actors of a generation being directed by one of the best actor's directors in a generation.

Sometimes I think acting students want to remain waiting tables.

labor_days

11-18-2007, 08:53 PM

Mystic River = Awesome.

http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/5/11/14/labor_days/f_CryingBearm_42eb3d8.gif

paper

11-18-2007, 09:04 PM

What size straitjacket do you wear, Conor? I'm doing some Christmas shopping this week. ;)

I like Clint Eastwood. Mystic River isn't the worst film of all time, but there's some terrible performances. I don't like to believe that the same Tim Robbins from Shawshank can be seen in Mystic River. Penn is really, really over the top. As I watched it, I felt embarrassed for him. I haven't seen a lot of his films, so I can't say whether it's an isolated incident.

conorkilpatrick

11-18-2007, 09:09 PM

I like Clint Eastwood. Mystic River isn't the worst film of all time, but there's some terrible performances. I don't like to believe that the same Tim Robbins from Shawshank can be seen in Mystic River.

I bet he thinks the same thing has he polishes his Academy Award. ;)

Penn is really, really over the top. As I watched it, I felt embarrassed for him. I haven't seen a lot of his films, so I can't say whether it's an isolated incident.

Keep in mind - and it's been a few years since I read the book so I could be wrong - but in the book Jimmy's screams can be heard for blocks so in that sense they were accurately adapting the source material.

Also, see the above comment about polishing his gold statuette. :)

paper

11-18-2007, 09:15 PM

Do you really want to use the Academy Awards as an accurate gauge for excellence? I dunno.

I'm not gonna kid myself and say my opinion should have any effect on Sean Penn's self esteem. But it's my opinion nonetheless.

conorkilpatrick

11-18-2007, 09:20 PM

I'm not gonna kid myself and say my opinion should have any effect on Sean Penn's self esteem. But it's my opinion nonetheless.

Sure; and I respect it.

labor_days

11-18-2007, 09:24 PM

Heeyyy, how about them Coen brothers?

They sure are wacky. Am I right?

http://img34.picoodle.com/img/img34/5/11/18/labor_days/f_18447175m_6869c87.jpg

(is attempting to make paper stop talking about mystic river. gah!)

fred

11-18-2007, 09:26 PM

How do you think Mystic River would've been different if it had been done by the coen brothers?

better? worse?

(I was born a smartass. yeah, my mom hates it.)

paper

11-18-2007, 09:26 PM

Watch this:

The Coen Bros really haven't won me over yet. There's nothing technically wrong with their work, but it's like we're on different wave lengths.

labor_days

11-18-2007, 09:28 PM

Better, Because the Coens would have had Penn trampled by elephants in that zoo.

That would be a movie I could endorse.

conorkilpatrick

11-18-2007, 09:34 PM

Watch this:

The Coen Bros really haven't won me over yet. There's nothing technically wrong with their work, but it's like we're on different wave lengths.

That almost exactly how I feel about Wes Anderson. I see the skill, it just doesn't move me in any way.

labor_days

11-18-2007, 09:38 PM

Ok, add movies to the list of things we can't talk about without thinking one another insane.

paper

11-18-2007, 09:41 PM

That almost exactly how I feel about Wes Anderson. I see the skill, it just doesn't move me in any way.

That's the perfect comparison. I get the sense that what you guys see in the Coens is what I see in Anderson. And for whatever reason that doesn't mesh for some people. Of course there are plenty who like or dislike both of them. I wager there are more on the Coens side.

six-gun

11-18-2007, 10:09 PM

I loved Oh Brother Where Art Thou

horatio616

11-18-2007, 11:57 PM

That's the perfect comparison. I get the sense that what you guys see in the Coens is what I see in Anderson. And for whatever reason that doesn't mesh for some people. Of course there are plenty who like or dislike both of them. I wager there are more on the Coens side.

I'm the same way about Tim Burton movies.

paper

11-19-2007, 12:01 AM

Well, Tim Burton's wildly overrated. There's evidence that he didn't actually direct Ed Wood.

fred

11-19-2007, 12:28 AM

you wound me sir. wound me.

esophagus

11-19-2007, 02:02 AM

Mystic River = Awesome.

Sean Penn = Awesome.So, don't hurt me guys, but I agree with Conor here. I enjoyed Mystic River. I wouldn't go as far as to say it was awesome, but I will go as far as to say that Tim Robbins deserved that Academy Award.

Sean Penn is hot and cold for me. On one hand there is I Am Sam, on the other hand there is almost everything else he's made. They're not all bad, but they're not great performances.

paper

11-19-2007, 02:09 AM

Sean Penn is hot

Don't let this cloud your judgment.

:D

esophagus

11-19-2007, 02:11 AM

Don't let this cloud your judgment.

:DYou had me convinced I had made a horrible horrible typo before realizing I had actually type that (in a totally different context, mind you).

I'd do him. =o

fred

11-19-2007, 05:22 AM

I'd do him. =o

I've had sex with Sean Penn. It wasn't that good. He spent the whole time talking about orphans and war and shit. ;)

kahunablair

11-19-2007, 11:42 AM

Bruce Willis to star in 'Surrogates'

Bruce Willis will star in “The Surrogates,” a sci-fi thriller that Jonathan Mostow will direct for Disney. The studio is eyeing a February production start in Boston....
Michael Ferris and John Brancato scripted “The Surrogates” based on a graphic novel from Top Shelf Comix. They collaborated with Mostow on the last film he directed, “Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines.” The scribes also wrote “Terminator Salvation: The Future Begins,” the Halcyon-financed sequel that McG will direct at Warner Bros. (Daily Variety, Oct. 10).
More than one option

“The Surrogates” is being produced by Mandeville’s David Hoberman and Todd Lieberman, along with Max Handelman and Elizabeth Banks.

Story is set in the near future, where humans live in isolation and interact vicariously through surrogate robots who are better-looking versions of themselves. Willis plays a cop who, through his surrogate, investigates the murders of others’ surrogates. The cop is forced to venture from his own home for the first time in years and unravels a conspiracy.

Movie is expected to be released through Touchstone, and becomes the eighth picture slotted for an early 2008 production start by topper Oren Aviv.
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117976216.html?categoryid=1236&cs=1&p=0

esophagus

11-19-2007, 05:38 PM

Surrogates... Disney... Bruce Willis. Gross. We'll see.

luthor

11-20-2007, 12:17 AM

The New Cloverfield Trailer -
http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/11808/large.html

Now excuse me as I allow my head to explode.

kahunablair

11-20-2007, 01:05 AM

The New Cloverfield Trailer -
http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/11808/large.html

Now excuse me as I allow my head to explode.

Interesting, huh?
Can't tell if it's some kind of LION or Lizard though. This is going to be a fun time.

senoj1

11-20-2007, 01:20 AM

A Lion would be crazy. I think it will be the usual reptilian alien. However this is a different kind of monster movie so their could be a very different monster.

kahunablair

11-20-2007, 01:29 AM

A Lion would be crazy. I think it will be the usual reptilian alien. However this is a different kind of monster movie so their could be a very different monster.

The only reason I say Lion is because of the trailers. Supposedly people are arguing over whether or not the guy is saying "ITS ALIVE!" or "ITS A LION".

conorkilpatrick

11-20-2007, 01:32 AM

It would be great if, right before its release, they announced

"Oh, it's actually not called Cloverfield. It's actually called Godzilla."

But they won't.

kahunablair

11-20-2007, 01:36 AM

It would be great if, right before its release, they announced

"Oh, it's actually not called Cloverfield. It's actually called Godzilla."

But they won't.

Honestly I think I'd be REALLY miffed if they did that. I doubt I'd go see it.

Although you do have a lot of parallels to the American Godzilla...
-Both had a great marketing campaign that didn't let you see the actual monster.
-Both had little mini-beasts that also attacked the denizens of NY
-Both have Jean Reno... no forget that..

esophagus

11-20-2007, 01:43 AM

Am I the only board memeber looking forward to seeing Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium? It just looks like so much fun. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory minus Roald Dahl and plus Jason Bateman.

luthor

11-20-2007, 01:50 AM

It would be great if, right before its release, they announced

"Oh, it's actually not called Cloverfield. It's actually called Godzilla."

But they won't.

There's actually a lot of rumours that this might be the case. Some of the viral sites feed into that too.

http://www.slusho.jp/
http://www.jamieandteddy.com/
http://www.tagruato.jp/(this one in particular)
http://www.akaparallax.com/

conorkilpatrick

11-20-2007, 01:50 AM

Honestly I think I'd be REALLY miffed if they did that. I doubt I'd go see it.

Although you do have a lot of parallels to the American Godzilla...
-Both had a great marketing campaign that didn't let you see the actual monster.
-Both had little mini-beasts that also attacked the denizens of NY
-Both have Jean Reno... no forget that..

It would make me a lot more likely to see it than I am at the moment.

kahunablair

11-20-2007, 02:09 AM

Tom Cruise + Guillermo Del Toro + Superheroes = Blair not being able to stand up in Math Class.

Tom Cruise takes on The Champions
Tom Cruise will produce and possibly star in an upcoming action flick called The Champions. It is about the adventures of a trio of secret government agents whose lives were saved when their plane crashed in the Himalayas and they were rescued by an advanced civilization. The civilization also bestowed them with superhuman abilities.

The film will be directed by the outstandingly talented director Guillermo Del Toro. Frankly the film kinda creeps me out. Advanced civilizations... super powers.. Tom Cruise... it all just creeps me out.

http://www.moviesonline.ca/movienews_13477.html

esophagus

11-20-2007, 02:25 AM

I really really hope he doesn't star in it. Really hope. I'll prboably go see it, as I always expect goodness to come from Del Toro, but it just doesn't sound good.

horatio616

11-20-2007, 02:30 AM

I really really hope he doesn't star in it. Really hope. I'll prboably go see it, as I always expect goodness to come from Del Toro, but it just doesn't sound good.

I don't think his Hollywood stuff is nearly as good as his Spanish-language films, and, yes, that includes Hellboy. I'd even go as far as to say that The Devil's Backbone is just as good as Pan's Labyrinth.

esophagus

11-20-2007, 02:33 AM

I don't think his Hollywood stuff is nearly as good as his Spanish-language films, and, yes, that includes Hellboy. I'd even go as far as to say that The Devil's Backbone is just as good as Pan's Labyrinth.
I agree whole-heartedly. I think most people do. That doesn't mean that Hellboy isn't a good movie.

kahunablair

11-20-2007, 02:34 AM

Well I think that you'll be seeing Del Toro going a lot more to the Devil's Backbone/Pan style. People are beginning to get acclimated to his bizarre style.

kahunablair

11-20-2007, 02:35 AM

I really really hope he doesn't star in it. Really hope. ..

I get the distaste of Cruise's personal life, but you really don't think he's a good actor?

esophagus

11-20-2007, 02:42 AM

I get the distaste of Cruise's personal life, but you really don't think he's a good actor?His personal life is his own business, and his acting is fine. I just really don't want to see him in this role.

six-gun

11-20-2007, 02:46 AM

Cruise has his moments, but they're few and far between

ripper-six

11-20-2007, 02:59 AM

kahunablair wrote: "Plus we have a sequel coming, along with a US remake. Both are supposed to hit in 08."

On top of that, we've got "Cloverfield" hitting theaters in January. In case anyone wants to see the new trailer for it, it was officially placed on www.empireonline.com (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=21492) today.

I'm hoping it's a whole lot better of am American giant monster movie than that sham of a Godzilla movie in 1998.

esophagus

11-20-2007, 03:02 AM

Editors Note: See the page before this.

six-gun

11-20-2007, 03:12 AM

mikegraham6

11-20-2007, 01:24 PM

i want to see cloverfield so bad it's not even funny, im glad to know that it's a lot closer than i thought. that trailer blew my mind, blair witch meets godzilla??? im there.

Conor, your not hyped for this movie? No faith left for the "Lost" crew?

conorkilpatrick

11-20-2007, 03:19 PM

Conor, your not hyped for this movie? No faith left for the "Lost" crew?

No, it's nothing to do with the movie itself, I just rarely make it out to the movies anymore. I'd rather wait for the DVD and actually get to watch the movie without people texting on their phones all around me.

I have to be really excited for something these days, usually.

kahunablair

11-20-2007, 03:24 PM

Well there was talk about Cloverfield having mini-monsters running around. The trailer seemed to back that up.
http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/cloverfieldmonsters.jpg

Apparently here's a similar picture from the movie.
http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/cloverfieldbb3.jpg

So those aren't the beasties, they're guys in hazmat suits.

Here's the story on SlashFilm.
http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/11/19/cloverfield-monsters-not-revealed/#more-5751

They also have a video of the Monster from the trailer that they slowed down and you get a shot of the Lizard-like hindlegs. Godzilla? Maybe.
http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/11/20/cloverfield-monster-in-slow-mo/#more-5760

kahunablair

11-20-2007, 03:33 PM

Well I don't know the general consesus on the Mummy movies are, but I personally thought they were stupid, fun flicks. Outside of the horrible Scorpion CGI at the end of the second, I thought the effects were pretty darn fun.

Pigmy mummies are awesome.

Anyway, they're going ahead and making a 3rd movie. Only this time the kid from the second is all grown up, and this Mummy is now a Chinese Emperor.

Jet Li plays a despotic Emperor in 50 B.C. whose evil is punished by a terrible curse laid on him by wizardress Michelle Yeoh: he and his army are turned into to terra cotta for all time; that is, unless he is re-awakened which, of course, is where the O'Connells come back into it.

The story moves to the year 1946. When we find them, Rick (Brendan Fraser) and Evelyn (Maria Bello) are retired to Oxfordshire, England, having been spies for the British during World War II. They are bored silly and welcome the offer of "one last mission" from the Foreign Office. Their assignment: courier a precious artifact back to the museum in Shanghai, China from which it was stolen.

Back to Asia: China is in turmoil but Jonathan (John Hannah) owns an Egyptian-themed bar in Shanghai. Unbeknownst to his parents, now grown-up Alex O'Connell (Luke Ford) is following in the family business as a young archaeologist on a dig in north-central China. He makes the discovery of a lifetime: the tomb of the Dragon Emperor, which has been buried for millennia. A beautiful assassin (Isabella Leong) tries to kill him to keep the location secret but Alex prevails. The Emperor's monument is transported back to Shanghai where another plot is in motion: military zealot Anthony Wong intends to awaken the Emperor and aid him in the re-conquest of China and the raising of his terra cotta army of ten thousand clay warriors.

The family is reunited and high adventure ensues: crash landings, treks thru the Himalayas, Yeti, avalanches, Shangri-la, three-headed dragons, pools of eternal life, epic battles, a shape-shifting Jet Li.

Anyway, IESB just put up a bunch of stills from the movie.
http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_ezine&task=read&page=1&category=3&article=3701

comhcinc

11-20-2007, 03:48 PM

No, it's nothing to do with the movie itself, I just rarely make it out to the movies anymore. I'd rather wait for the DVD and actually get to watch the movie without people texting on their phones all around me.

I have to be really excited for something these days, usually.

i'm with Mr. Kilpatrick on this one. i just don't care about a movie i know nothing about. let me use a book analogy. no matter how good the cover art looks i won't buy it until i read the back cover.

also jj abrams has never done anything i really like, so i can't get excited about that. if you are a fan of him, i can understand you being different.

oh conor, i always just watch movies on weekdays.

luthor

11-20-2007, 04:12 PM

http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/img/6/3/5/2/11982536-11982539-slarge.jpg

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http://www.myuselessknowledge.com/joe/baroness.gif?

Link (http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20161606,00.html)

comhcinc

11-20-2007, 04:19 PM

Link (http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20161606,00.html)

Sienna Miller has been cast as the female lead in Paramount Pictures' upcoming movie G.I. Joe. She will play what is being described as a raven-haired baroness.......i.e. THE Baroness really is there anyone interested in this film that wouldn't know that? or is mr bruno really just that out of it?

esophagus

11-20-2007, 06:37 PM

Sienna Miller? I'm in. I think I'm going to have to stockpile some GI Joe trades before this happens. I haven't read a ton yet. I meant to after the video episode came out, but it got lost in the endless list of trades I want.

kahunablair

11-20-2007, 06:51 PM

So we have a Baroness cast and a battle over who get's to play Duke (Clooney or Wahlberg).

I don't think I can put into words my excitement for this bit of my childhood coming to "life".

esophagus

11-20-2007, 07:13 PM

I'm a little late to the game, but I have to say, The Last King of Scotland was excellent. Deserved every award it won and more.

fred

11-20-2007, 07:32 PM

I'm a little late to the game, but I have to say, The Last King of Scotland was excellent. Deserved every award it won and more.

It was quite good.

paper

11-20-2007, 10:41 PM

Loved Last King of Scotland.

fred

11-20-2007, 10:42 PM

The writer of LKoS also wrote The Queen (which is actually better).

Both great - The Queen is better though.

six-gun

11-21-2007, 03:16 AM

esophagus

11-21-2007, 04:39 AM

The writer of LKoS also wrote The Queen (which is actually better).

Both great - The Queen is better though.
I went to see it in theatres. The entire theatre was empty except me and then this girl that I got into a huge blowout with's mother walks in and sits down two seats beside me. Awkward, but standable. Then the girl and her friend come in and sit with her mother. "Umm... Hi." "I'm in the wrong theatre". Instead I got to see whatever the hell that forgettable Jennifer Garner / Kevin Smith movie was. For some reason, I never got around to going back to see the Queen.

fred

11-21-2007, 10:35 AM

that would be Catch and Release.

tad

11-21-2007, 05:25 PM

kahunablair

11-21-2007, 05:33 PM

Wow I finally learned how to post a picture but I decided it could be a major spoiler. So here is a link to what is purported to be the Cloverfield monster (http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/8604/1195555256323kx5.jpg).

Good find, Tad!

It looks like it jives with everything that has been leaked so far. Sadly that could mean a fan just took that news and came up with this, but I hope not.

labor_days

11-21-2007, 05:35 PM

Cloverfield? Meh.

luthor

11-21-2007, 05:42 PM

Wow I finally learned how to post a picture but I decided it could be a major spoiler. So here is a link to what is purported to be the Cloverfield monster (http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/8604/1195555256323kx5.jpg).

:O :O :O

That looks freaking awesome. I can't wait for this movie to come out.

mikegraham6

11-21-2007, 05:52 PM

smaktakula

11-21-2007, 05:52 PM

The writer of LKoS also wrote The Queen (which is actually better).

Both great - The Queen is better though.

I loved The Queen. What a nice surprise. I went into the theater blind. I'd been told the movie was about Elizabeth, so I figured it was Elizabeth I (defeater of the Spanish Armada, etc.). Best movie I've seen in a long time (it's been a year, and that still holds true).

Last King was good. However, if not for Forrest Whittaker, I think it would have been just okay. FW made that movie for me.

ripper-six

11-22-2007, 04:33 PM

i want to believe that's the monster, but i don't think it really fits with the glimse in the trailer (check legs/hips, they don't match up)
also the graphic of the person used for size comparison seems kinda fishy....

after being burned with that Joker image from DKR, im wary of "leaked" images....

According to a Cloverfield fan site I've been monitoring, this image is the result of a contest several months ago. After the teaser attached to Transformers created so much buzz, a contest was held where fans would submit designs for the monster based on what they saw in the teaser and what they heard via internet rumors. This picture was the winner, and has received a lot of positive feedback (i.e., people wish that this was the actual monster). That's what I know and I'm Audi 3000.

kahunablair

11-23-2007, 12:13 AM

Thanks for the update, Ripper Six.

paper

11-23-2007, 12:20 AM

The tail on that thing is huge. Doesn't look very fast either. If it had to make a U-turn it would probably level all of Manhattan and sweep Conor's apartment into Fred's driveway.

six-gun

11-23-2007, 12:45 AM

Wow I finally learned how to post a picture but I decided it could be a major spoiler. So here is a link to what is purported to be the Cloverfield monster (http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/8604/1195555256323kx5.jpg).

that would make me very happy, because i like to see the monster

paper

11-23-2007, 12:51 AM

Are there any examples of movies where you don't get to see the monster? I'm sure there are, but I'm curious which movies are ticking you off.

kahunablair

11-23-2007, 01:15 AM

Are there any examples of movies where you don't get to see the monster? I'm sure there are, but I'm curious which movies are ticking you off.

I think he's referring to his curiosity for THIS movie's monster.

fred

11-23-2007, 01:32 AM

The tail on that thing is huge. Doesn't look very fast either. If it had to make a U-turn it would probably level all of Manhattan and sweep Conor's apartment into Fred's driveway.

He's welcome to stay as long as he likes. This would also give me the opportunity to scream "GET OFF MY LAWN".

In other movie news ....

I just got back from seeing No Country For Old Men. It was great. I'm hard pressed to think of an adaptation that I've ever enjoyed more.

By the way, half the theater-goers remarked "what?" aloud when the movie ended. It was kind of amusing.

paper

11-23-2007, 01:39 AM

I'm hoping to see No Country on Saturday. Depends on what my friends want to do. I know there's at least 2 or 3 votes for it.

fred

11-23-2007, 01:44 AM

There are about 10 movie theaters in my general area. There are only 2 showing it. I was a bit surprised.

One more thing I forgot to mention, I saw the trailer for There Will Be Blood (http://imdb.com/title/tt0469494/) , the new Paul Thomas Anderson movie with Daniel Day Lewis, and it looks excellent. I can't wait to see it.

I'm also really looking forward to Juno (http://imdb.com/title/tt0467406/) with Michael Cera.

They both come out in January.