Ep one: constructive critisism

[rabidbadger]

Huge potential here. Tons of personality.

Unfortunately that is part of the problem. You all have such strong personalities, and vocal opinions on the subject matter that you kept walking on each other. I could barely hear what you guys were saying because you kept either interrupting each other or talking over each other.

Dan did a damn fine job of trying to keep things contained and moving, but the over-talk was something he couldn't control, it seems. One of you guys has to be the leader. Dan is a natural leader for this format, and I honestly think the other guys should look/listen for his cues. I know Alex is boisterous and has to get his jokes in, but it is awkward and confusing when there are three of you, instead of two (ala: diggnation).

Don't get me wrong. I believe this show has great potential. Great chemistry with all the hosts, just relax a bit. Calm down. You are all pretty, and will all get snacks.

Meanwhile, visually: Can the greenscreen. Find a local starving artist to create a backdrop painting, and just sit/stand in front of it. Your fans (including me) don't want to wait an extra day for needless special effects. Just film, encode, post.

Love you. Love your hair.

(and thanks for letting me be the first question on your first episode. I feel honored. Honestly.)

Rabidbadger (-Joel)

[jchawk2003]

i dont think they needed to calm down it all... it is the "totally RAD show" after all... its not like its "the view"

[lupin]

I hate to say it, but the show sucked. I mean, I didnt like geekdrome it almost always put me to sleep as does this show. Also, you guys should really cut the games section, its apprent that the knowledge between you three is rather mundane and limited. This was a problem on Geekdrome and is a problem any time Alex or Kevin start talking about games on Diggnation. Sorry to be a Debbie Downer (last good skit on SNL?) but the show was awful. I actually turned it off at about 25 minutes.

VIVA LA DIGGNATION INDIGITAL and INFECTED!! :D

[rpgguy1o1]

yeah, i kind of agree
it seemed like whenever someone started a thought, one of the other two would jump in with some sort of anecdote or something and cut them off.
i enjoyed it tho, lived up to the name.

[shakermaker]

agree with most of what is said. however, 1st episode still nice to get the first one out. What I liked about the show is still the interactions with you three, but it seems were out of the loop, I'm sure as more episodes are done we'll be laughing with you. Nice transitions between segments, there isn't really much going on as far as news, and as far as videogames aswell, not much going on. Overall I thought it was good. I'm sure you'll win over the fans.

[zombi]

I thought it was great, the green screen backgrounds kinda threw me at first. I guess if you didnt dig the subject matter that was the drome, you probably wont like this much either as the overlap is pretty heavy.
Well done guys. Glad to see Dannyt on a podcast again.

[rabidbadger]

yeah, i kind of agree
it seemed like whenever someone started a thought, one of the other two would jump in with some sort of anecdote or something and cut them off.
i enjoyed it tho, lived up to the name.

Yeah. That was part of my point. You guys need to listen to each other... The latest TWIT which concentrated on podcasts with the guys from Tikibar said that the first few eps of any show are awkward, feeling your oats... this ep of RAD was very much that...

You'll get your vibe down in a few eps, but they also said on TWIT that you never get you audience twice. It's a one shot deal. You lose an audience if the first one they find sucks. They rarely come back twice. Gotta be careful with the hype.

You guys were good about hyping the fist ep with an ingrained fanbase (geekdrome). But that won't wash when you wannna grow our fan base. You'll need more than us. You will need us telling our non IPTV savvy friends to look for you. And you got to give us a reason to hype you to them.


Just thinking out loud. And spending too much time on it. Considering I got my own vidcast to hype.

[kwok_talk]

I didn't mind the green screen - too often the backdrops are just someone's living room wall, which gets bland.

I'm not too sure how often it happened in the scenes in the house, but for some reason it really stuck out how when Alex or Jeff would sometimes talk for a longer period of time, the camera would catch Dan in a solo shot and he'd be looking completely elsewhere or disinterested. I'm sure it totally wasn't the case, just my observation.

I'm confident that any tweaks will get fixed as a natural progression/development of the show, so I still look forward to the show!

[poltah]

Totally agree with rabidbadger.

[calvinslug]

I need to reserve judgement until I do one as audio only, which is normally how I listen to podcasts.

[satori]

I had the same feeling when I first started watching geekdrome, but they really got tighter the longer it went on... to the point that they sometimes finished each others sentances. Also I kind of got used to it, it became part of the charm I think. Anyway, it's the first ep, I'm sure they'll get there on the conversational cadence thing. :)

[jamesmarshall]

I truly think this show should be diggnation with more homosexual undertones.

Bring out the lube for the next episode! Q'plah.

[radmax]

I love the over-lapping conversations! That is how it is in real life.

I moved away from home and all my friends a few years ago. I have a bunch of new friends where I live now, but none of them really have my passion for stuff. There isn't a history that comes with just hanging with your bros all the time.

I loved the DROME mainly because it was people like me talking about things I love...like people. The TRS captures that same feel...Dudes talking about Rad stuff and having a good time.

The minute you all start looking at someone for direction you throw away the real life feel. You don't open yourself up for "happy accidents" that add charm and even mythos to the show.

And the comment about how they need to cut the games section is not a good idea. I enjoy having an "every man's" POV on things. I watch "The 1-UP Show" and other shows by people that claim to be experts in certain fields and it get's a little old to hear them talk about all the stuff that an average gamer just doesn't care about.

Having just normal guys talk about games works. I have a decent idea of the things DannyT likes and I usually share his tastes in things. Through the weeks you might find you share more interests with Alex or Jeff. Then, all you REALLY need is to hear their thoughts on things to know if you will digg it or not.

But if you don't like the content...then you won't like the show. It's that simple. I say give them time to find their groove before you give up....more importantly, give yourself more time to get use to the show and a chance to know the hosts.

[jamesmarshall]

I love the over-lapping conversations! That is how it is in real life.

I moved away from home and all my friends a few years ago. I have a bunch of new friends where I live now, but none of them really have my passion for stuff. There isn't a history that comes with just hanging with your bros all the time.

I loved the DROME mainly because it was people like me talking about things I love...like people. The TRS captures that same feel...Dudes talking about Rad stuff and having a good time.

The minute you all start looking at someone for direction you throw away the real life feel. You don't open yourself up for "happy accidents" that add charm and even mythos to the show.

And the comment about how they need to cut the games section is not a good idea. I enjoy having an "every man's" POV on things. I watch "The 1-UP Show" and other shows by people that claim to be experts in certain fields and it get's a little old to hear them talk about all the stuff that an average gamer just doesn't care about.

Having just normal guys talk about games works. I have a decent idea of the things DannyT likes and I usually share his tastes in things. Through the weeks you might find you share more interests with Alex or Jeff. Then, all you REALLY need is to hear their thoughts on things to know if you will digg it or not.

But if you don't like the content...then you won't like the show. It's that simple. I say give them time to find their groove before you give up....more importantly, give yourself more time to get use to the show and a chance to know the hosts.


I'm still going to uppercut Danny T.

[radmax]

I'm still going to uppercut Danny T.

over my dead body...dannyt is my boy.

[jamesmarshall]

over my dead body...dannyt is my boy.

My right hand, "Fear", will land a devestating, bowel-shaking uppercut to Danny T.

My left hand, "Sugar Plum", will give you the "Ten-Point Palm - Exploding Heart Technique".

Q'Plah!!!

[poltah]

I'm still going to uppercut Danny T.

Why do you want to break your fist on his chin?

[jamesmarshall]

Why do you want to break your fist on his chin?

Oh... I won't.

My hands are like James Woods' in Videodrome... except less pistol and more hulk hands.

And they shoot lasers. Danny T-homing Lasers.

Hells yeah.

[radmax]

Oh... I won't.

My hands are like James Woods' in Videodrome... except less pistol and more hulk hands.

And they shoot lasers. Danny T-homing Lasers.

Hells yeah.

See...now you are just trying too hard to be clever....not really working out for you. Sorry.

[jamesmarshall]

Sorry.

Aw, mama. It's okay. I knew you had to give me up because of your meth addiction... but everytime I looked at the moon, I was hoping you were looking at it too.

I love you mama.

[radmax]

Aw, mama. It's okay. I knew you had to give me up because of your meth addiction... but everytime I looked at the moon, I was hoping you were looking at it too.

I love you mama.

It's like you are retarded....

[jamesmarshall]

It's like you are retarded....

That's what happens when you do meth, mama. Mon brains no done developed.

It's okay mama. I know its addicting to shoot your "happy soup" into your cooter. ::hugs::

Just know that god doesn't love you because he doesn't exist.

[sloppybunny]

I got into Geekdrome after episode 15 or something, so I mist that first episode jitters thing.

Still If that was the case, both Dan and Jon were new to it then and it was Audio only. Now they both have their own fan base, and Dan is joined by two other podcast regulars, so being new to it shouldn't be an issue and the guys seem to know each other well for while now anyway.

I'll be honest I'm a bit closer to Geekscape at the moment. It filled the void Geekdrome left quicker and I never felt like The drome left to be honest. This show brought back the fact that I miss the drome and the chemistry and hyjinks that Jon and Dan had and did.

Back to this show. Great to see Dan talk stuff again and congrats on the Lexus Ads :) The other two I gotta warm to. I haven't gotten into diggnation yet.

And all you people that didn't like geekdrome, why would you like this?

The set and green screen looks nice. You guys should get some industry guests come on. I liked that about Geekdrome, and now Geekscape :)

[radmax]

With the Green Screen stuff you guys should just do a "Nick Arcade" set up.

Put a Helmet and a bright t-shirt on Jeff and have him swat at things that aren't there...wait he has a Wii.

[jamesmarshall]

Put a Helmet and a bright t-shirt on Jeff and have him swat at things that aren't there...

Like good reasons for buying a PS3.

Face!

[ricorick]

It was a good show. I am not used to seeing Dan at a loss for words or losing his train of thought. Can't wait for the next episode.

[baldmonkey]

One thing I was a bit disturbed by was the "scripted" feeling.
I think it might be better if you try not to talk about the subjects before the show. There were a bit to many "yeah remeber when we talked about that earlier..." in my opinion.

But maybe the show will become more spontaneous as you get more confortable with the it.

[ihatecrayons]

One thing I was a bit disturbed by was the "scripted" feeling.
I think it might be better if you try not to talk about the subjects before the show. There were a bit to many "yeah remeber when we talked about that earlier..." in my opinion.

But maybe the show will become more spontaneous as you get more confortable with the it.

Yeah I think there were too many "Yeah, I remember when we talked about that!"s too. The show did seem a bit too scripted, but I am sure it was just out of nervousness. The show has great potential, and once they can learn to jive together, it'll be great. I'm looking forward to the next episode!

[recklessftw]

Hey guys, for a first show it was good. I have a few points to share.

1. Not a huge fan of the greenscreen... I like the idea of something local to where you guys are, a real set or something like that, I saw a local artist was mentioned. I found I just didn't get into the show like I do with ctrl alt chicken, diggnation, etc because the background wasn't real.

2. Three seems to be to many people on there for me, I found I lost interest just because there are so many points flying around and so much conversation going on.

I love the premise of the show and the range of topics. That indiana jones bit was awesome at the beginning, I lauged pretty hard at that one.

That's all that really stood out for me.

I know it was the first show and you're still finding your grooves, keep it up.

[satori]

Like good reasons for buying a PS3.

Face!

fun with non-sequitors

[lupin]

...
2. Three seems to be to many people on there for me, I found I lost interest just because there are so many points flying around and so much conversation going on.
...

I agree with 3 people on a thing like this you guys might want to think about doing a TSS esque kind of thing. Like start out just talking about general things but have one person or two talk about each segment. And I dont mind green screen, but do it like The Soup does, where it creates that illusion of a real set. For the longest time I thought he actually had a TV and the rest was green screen :P

[dave1233345]

hi folks. first post i know. i shouldn't be using my first to criticize. but i personally love criticism if this show gets more awesome I'm willing to give my few nuggets of knowledge.

the question is whats not RAD?

length on the episodes
my main problem is the shows are mega long for a simple review show. its wouldn't be a problem if the show was packed full of reviews. but its not. the show has 5 or 6 reviews in a 50 minute show. most of the problem is the hosts going off topic. a good 20 minutes of the show is off topic talk. it feels like it needs the editing treatment in the way that ctrl+alt+chicken is edited. to make it flow from each review better.

no review conclusion/summery
i was expecting some rad or bad review system or maybe just a 5 out of 5 stars reviews system. but i got nothing. by the end of the episode i didn't really know if you guys liked what you were reviewing or not. whether its a rating or each of the hosts giving a summery i don't care. i wanna know the final result.

you probably all think i hate the totally rad show now. the question is would i download the next episode of the totally rad show? the answer is yes. why? because i thought it was entertaining. 4 out of 5 stars ;)

[rowlodge]

okay it looked like they were stepping on each others lines or comments but it still was funny, it gets my stamp of approval.

used to alex on diggnation so he made me feel kind of at home here. the green screen helps for me, and distinguishs itself out from the of the other shows with the special effects.

[muled]

hi folks. first post i know. i shouldn't be using my first to criticize. but i personally love criticism if this show gets more awesome I'm willing to give my few nuggets of knowledge.

the question is whats not RAD?

length on the episodes
my main problem is the shows are mega long for a simple review show. its wouldn't be a problem if the show was packed full of reviews. but its not. the show has 5 or 6 reviews in a 50 minute show. most of the problem is the hosts going off topic. a good 20 minutes of the show is off topic talk. it feels like it needs the editing treatment in the way that ctrl+alt+chicken is edited. to make it flow from each review better.

no review conclusion/summery
i was expecting some rad or bad review system or maybe just a 5 out of 5 stars reviews system. but i got nothing. by the end of the episode i didn't really know if you guys liked what you were reviewing or not. whether its a rating or each of the hosts giving a summery i don't care. i wanna know the final result.

you probably all think i hate the totally rad show now. the question is would i download the next episode of the totally rad show? the answer is yes. why? because i thought it was entertaining. 4 out of 5 stars ;)

I think what you said was well worded, not flaming, and you were specific about what you thought should be improved. I'll disagree about the episode length and off topicness, it is to a word, that's the parts that I enjoy on other shows and will probably come to like on this as well. The more you like to host the more entertaining the off topic stuff gets.

As for the rating system I could totally see that fitting in to the feel of the show.

PS don't be surprised if this gets moved into the constructive criticism thread.

[_aj_]

Liked the show alot. I think the off the cuff style can work very well. The Green screen is good.

I think Dan needs to be more assertive and not let himself be cut off and Alex and Jeff need to go out of their way to try and not dominate the conversation. Right now Alex and Jeff are operating at a speed that is about Warp 9 and Dan is only at about 5. I think they both need to meet at about 7. Alex and Jeff could calm it down a bit and as Dan becomes more comfortable with the with the pace, I think he'll catch up.

All in all a good effort I think.

-AJ

[baldmonkey]

I think what you said was well worded, not flaming, and you were specific about what you thought should be improved. I'll disagree about the episode length and off topicness, it is to a word, that's the parts that I enjoy on other shows and will probably come to like on this as well. The more you like to host the more entertaining the off topic stuff gets...

Couldnt agree more. To me it even felt a bit short. I wanted more out of every segment.

[bonerstabone]

I think you need more Boner and even more Stabone... but thats just me. (hops on powered hoverboard and jets away across water....)


Great show so far guys, lovin' it and getting people unfamiliar with the show hooooooooked.

[silent_shadow900]

First off, what was with using the opening music for "1up yours" as the opening for this?

Secondly, the green screen is a bit much.

Thirdly, thank God somebody is there to correct Alex Albrecht when he's wrong, which is a lot of the time.

[dom]

An interesting first show, but definitely has some bugs that need to be ironed out.

1. There's too much incomprehensible, inconsequential, tangential chat.
2. They guy in the T-shirt (Dan?) was annoying. Saying half a sentence, then forgetting what you're talking about does not make compelling viewing.
3. The individual segments - and the show as a whole - are too long.
4. It can't seem to decide if it wants to be a show with high production values or a home-made feel. Make up your mind.
5. One of the presenters needs to be in charge.
6. The jokes need to be funny. Actually being funny always helps when trying to be funny.
7. The theme tune made from stock GarageBand loops is decidedly un-rad.
8. When you all talk at once, I can't hear any of you.
9. Dan is annoying. Did I mention Dan is annoying? I think maybe he should be shot and stuffed - or perhaps made into some kind of coffee table.

Other than that - good show.

[trsjeff]

First off, what was with using the opening music for "1up yours" as the opening for this?



There is an entire thread on this:

http://www.revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4950

-Jeff

[xibalba]

Seems like people don't look around and search before posting. They need to so there aren't multiple topics about the same crap. I thought the show was good of course as was stated it was the first show. Dan did look alittle annoyed with Alex and Jeff at times. :D

[silent_shadow900]

I will say though, I'm glad Jeff is actually posting in the forums. A little embracing the community goes a long way.

[satori]

I will say though, I'm glad Jeff is actually posting in the forums. A little embracing the community goes a long way....and DannyT's been hanging in the Geekdrome chat room as well.

[zombi]

At first I wondered how the three of them were going to work together and it not turn into a circus, no offense, its just that they all generally have good interesting points to be made about a subject. And I worried that 3 hosts would be too much for the show.

But after having watched it and thought about it for awhile, I definitely like the hosting situation. You guys work well together without the show being way over the top.

The only thing I worry about is how the green screen will be used in the future, say a few months from now, will it feel boring and limit the kind of stuff they can do (seems odd to say that about a green screen, lol)? I doubt it, but itll be interesting to see how thats handled.

One thing that I think would be a cool addition is simply more of whats there, spesifically movies. I really dig the movie segment and would be cool if there were more reviews, but then Im sure youd have to cut something.

[r3v]

Meanwhile, visually: Can the greenscreen. Find a local starving artist to create a backdrop painting, and just sit/stand in front of it. Your fans (including me) don't want to wait an extra day for needless special effects. Just film, encode, post.I disagree. 100%.

My other pro/con comments were made in the Episode 1: "Trumors" (http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4928) thread, so no need to repeat myself I suppose.

Oh, and I agree with stabone.

[hellfighter]

I agree with the original post and others who say it felt too scripted.

[sloppybunny]

Seems like people don't look around and search before posting. They need to so there aren't multiple topics about the same crap. I thought the show was good of course as was stated it was the first show. Dan did look alittle annoyed with Alex and Jeff at times. :D

Dan always looks annoyed. Look at some old episodes of Geekdrome ;)

[sweeper]

The over talk is harder to bare because its 3 people. With 2 people you can easily distinguish the voices.

I would lose the tacky background and just be real.

I feel disconnected from the show. Something is missing, not sure what.

[travisonphonics]

DO NOT LOSE THE BACKGROUND. I think it adds so much to the show. It's different, and we all know change scares geeks. Erroneous, keep it, and you'll keep me. Don't, and I'll probably still watch.

[foruce]

the show was awesome... however...

i didnt know the you were talking about the gears of war film yet to be made until i read the show description after i watched the show... other than that...

keep it up!!! (please)

[radmax]

I am really suprised by all the people that just don't get the show yet...

[anneluren]

I liked the show very much.
But I agree that it was a bit difficult to get all that was said.
Just,, just slow down a bit, there's no rush :)

[radmax]

i don't think people will be happy unless they turn it into the 6 o'clock news.

all this talk about going to different people for the different segments (i.e. TSS) is retarded. It is not a magazine style show. the talking and the debating is what makes this type of show work.

having them look at the camera and give some friggin diatribe on what they thought about TMNT has no charm.

going off topic is what i love most about this and other podcasts.

you complain that the green screen could delay the show's release....how do you think it will be if they script everything?

it will become rigid and leave no room to just let things happen.

after seeing so many of people's suggestions I am just happy that not all of them have podcasts.

[anneluren]

I agree with you, but there is a difference between hearing out one another, and being a news reporter.
That's all.

And all the other things that people mention. Well, how important can it really be what kind of background they use. That's not what interests me when following a discussion.

[tokenuser]

i don't think people will be happy unless they turn it into the 6 o'clock news.

all this talk about going to different people for the different segments (i.e. TSS) is retarded. It is not a magazine style show. the talking and the debating is what makes this type of show work.

having them look at the camera and give some friggin diatribe on what they thought about TMNT has no charm.

going off topic is what i love most about this and other podcasts.

you complain that the green screen could delay the show's release....how do you think it will be if they script everything?

it will become rigid and leave no room to just let things happen.

after seeing so many of people's suggestions I am just happy that not all of them have podcasts.Completely agree.

Its a podcast. Its not TV. It is going to be raw, and a little rough around the edges ... but as far as production values goes, the background all the Awesome Productions team bring to the table is superb, and really shows that they know their craft, and are trying to do it on a budget. In an ideal world there would be elaborate sets, but I REALLY like the green screen (I need to figure out how to do that myself ;) ). In an ideal world they would each have a static camera focused on them, with a floating camera filming them together with pan and zoom between two/three at a time. That requires a studio, and much bigger budget, crew and editting time. All in all though, they show is a great compromise that shows just what can happen with some creative thinking, and a limited budget (I wonder what the cost to produce actually is?).

Its not a magazine style show (eg like inDigital), it has more substance than a two guys talking shit on a couch show (eg Diggnation). It really is bringing something unique to the mix - three hosts realy mixes it up and its not the same opinions every week. They can feed off each other.

This really has taken podcast to another level. Roll on IPTV.

[kowgod]

The backgrounds are awesome. Seriously, the whole geeks sitting in their apartment thing is stale and done on a billion other podcasts.

Greenscreens let you go nuts.

Best use of greenscreen ever, btw?
7tWyKIqYnjA

They should do an entire episode in front of THAT.

And DannyT should wear leather pants.

[mejason69]

Dudes....This show is way too much like geekdrome and sorry to say geekdrome sucked.

I honestly sat through the whole thing and I almost got a head ache the way everyone was trying to talk over each other. It seemed like this was a very amateur podcast....not really Rev3 quality.

I have not killed it off as yet....lets get #2 out the door and see if it gets better....

[recklessftw]

I agree with some comments that say it could be shorter. Like was said, having 5 or 6 reviews in 50 minutes is a litle much. That could have fit into 20 minutes just nice I think.

Still the first show though we have to remember...

[lindqvist]

My main wishes:
* Less "remember what we said about this before the show?" talk and less talking OVER each other. (Might come naturally, I guess.)
* Perhaps shorter episodes? This episode felt way long.

The green screen doesn't particularly bother me, even if it gives the show a highly corny look. (But that, you must be aware of.)

Maybe reserve a little more time for the viewer questions? I think it's a bit of a shame that it felt so rushed.


All in all, I think this might become really good.

[sigafoo]

Personally my take on it all is that not a whole lot is needed to be changed. I like the fact that you guys step on each other when you talk, and stuff of that natural. It feels real, like if I was having a conversation with my buddies. Even the random little jokes you guys would make.

I'd say to try and not do it as much, but this doesn't need to seem like 'news program.'

I thought them standing in front of a green screen was fine since the fact that you could display the trailer, and the video game they were talking about. Which I thought was fairly good idea.

Anyway, I loved the show. For being a 40+ minute video I was surprisingly entertain the whole time.

So can't wait for more, and keep up the good work.

[mojorisin69]

While this show is a good idea of bringing ideas of old(nastalgai <-mispelled) and new together. It lacks that chemistry that diggnation(Alex and Kevin) have. I think three people may be a bit to much because there is to much going on at one time. Indigital has three people and it is a good show. I don't think their type of format would work for you but I don't think the current format is working for me. Maybe you should have a flashback section. Also I think that diggnation works because even though it is unscripted their is a start and a finish. This show is always on a tangent which is fine if you are there and are one of the people talking about old times but I just cant expect to jump in there and no what the other one is talking about because it is so irradict. I'm going to say something a bit controversal but I know this is on the mines of some so I will say it. The show lacks masculine qualities. Wonder twins activate form of two gay guys and a struggling actor.(That was cold but I was just kidding) Seriously guys this show could work but it is just lacking a bit I think changing the format could help.

FYI Gay people scare me.

[drukqs]

Add beer, couches, and just talk about entertainment topics....

[voideyez]

I actually enjoyed Episode 1 very very much. I do not think the communication issues mentioned here were a problem at all. Alex and Jeff are great together and Dan polarizes that but, not to an extreme. I see him more as an initiator, and its an awesome setup. My advice is to set these boys wild, give Dan more to do as well. Alex and Jeff will utilize anything. :D

EDIT:

Also, the camera movements reminded me of the office. >_<

[daikun]

Add beer, couches, and just talk about entertainment topics....

Then people would complain about it being a Diggnation ripoff.

[muffins]

I think its got potential.

One thing that bothered me was that this whole show seems like it already existed on a smaller plain on diggnation. When Alex and Kevin talk about things off-topic I love it. I think 2 people is enough for it. The thing is its easier to listen to each other.

Also I agree with the original poster that they do tend to talk over each other a lot. You guys are really talkative. I'm not saying its bad but when I can't hear anyone I get confused.

Also I know this would be tough if not impossible to change: The theme of the show. Being in outer space.

The backgrounds get really boring to the eyes, especially because when you get into the segment and the background has been there for 20 minutes. My eyes got a break when you were playing the God of War II gameplay in the background. I could watch something entertaining while hearing you guys talk about it. I think a better setting for the show would be around different areas such as The Couch, The Arcade, or other things like that.

Lastly I'm not sure about your limitations with money or equipment but the quality seemed a little blurry. It was really tough to watch because my eyes were constantly scanning the scene trying to figure out everything mentally.

Hope this constructive criticism helps :)

[nextgenxbox]

I loved it and saw nothing wrong with it. Now give me more! And Alex, we need more CAC... what's taking so long?

[_bender_]

Thought the show was awesome (naysayers be damned!!).

Only complaint I have is that the cam needs some leveling at times, was really sketchy and all over the place at times (can work also I guess...like in BSG where it works well...).

[casework]

I think it might be better if you try not to talk about the subjects before the show. There were a bit to many "yeah remeber when we talked about that earlier..." in my opinion.

But maybe the show will become more spontaneous as you get more confortable with the it.

This is really my biggest criticism/suggestion.

The green screen is good for limited use. I loved when the game preview they were discussing was being played full screen behind them. Things like that would be a great use for the green screen. Other than that, I think a natural setting like the living room shot, or having a "homemade" professional looking set would be nice. A nice table to stand behind with a nice, simple backdrop.

I also agree with maybe doing the segments with only two people. Have the intro and the questions segments be all 3 people. Have movie, TV, video game, etc, segments broken down into shorter segments with only two people. But, this could be getting too far away from what you're trying to accomplish with this show, and I can respect that.

I promise I'll have more constructive criticism as the days go on, but at this point I'm too tired to think straight. It's also getting harder to criticize because I'm producing a lot of my own content these days.

Definitely a great first episode, and I have no doubts that if the guys are dedicated to this that it will be smooth sailing in a few short weeks.

[efleming969]

As if they matter :)

* Overall, excellent first show.
* Liked the chemistry (better than diggnation).
* Topics were well covered.
* Enjoyed the backgrounds (especially during video game section).
* Intro skit was a little silly for my taste (I'm 37).
* Didn't like the forum questions section.

Good luck!

[scottyneox38]

- Please loose the backgrounds (except the first one with TRS)
- Pro special effects (I LOVED THE EXPLOSION you guys did, every time it was rad)
- Seamless editing (like when Alex mentioned Xbox Case Mods, seamless intergration)

[glacierice]

Well I watched the first episode. I must say I was really bored the first 5 minutes of the show and the rest was just as hard to watch.

The three people panel does not seem to work in this setup. Before I give up on the show I'll give it two more episodes to see if my feelings change, or if the show changes any.

I really enjoy Diggnation and CtrlAlt Chicken. Make a spin off from Ctrl with the scientist people, now that's some funny shit!

[rabidbadger]

...Make a spin off from Ctrl with the scientist people, now that's some funny shit!

Well, now that is not a bad idea. It could replace or become the otherwise non-existant, useless, MIA "mysteries of Science Explained" non-cast.

[satori]

Well I watched the first episode. I must say I was really bored the first 5 minutes of the show and the rest was just as hard to watch.

The three people panel does not seem to work in this setup. Before I give up on the show I'll give it two more episodes to see if my feelings change, or if the show changes any.


so you were bored because a 3 person panel doesn't work? That's a strange reason to be bored.

[ihatecrayons]

Well, now that is not a bad idea. It could replace or become the otherwise non-existant, useless, MIA "mysteries of Science Explained" non-cast.

I could definitely go for that show. It'd be fun.

[haircut]

It was like watching a male version of "The View", and Alex was Rosie O'Donnell.

[shmoo]

I liked the show, and I think it's fine with the three of them IF they can stop talking over eachother as much. I have a feeling they'll get in the groove soon. Having 3 people is not revolutionary, it happens on radio, it happens on roundtables, it even happens on podcasts. The hosts just need to get a feel of when their co-hosts are done talking.

I didn't like when they kept saying "remember how we talked about that" because that does us no good. It's not like we were there with you, we don't know what you're talking about.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to the next episode. It's good to see Dan and Jeff get a regular show.

[number_01]

The chemistry between the hosts wasn't good, you guys were going in all different directions. Here are some idea which would make the totally rad show totally rad, ok it needs more radness and heres what I think you should do.

You need to get that angry oldschool (angry video game nerd/angry nintendo nerd) video game geek on your show, maybe reporting on games from an old school perspective. Basically create correspondents on earth. I say Angry oldschool gamer as your video game correspondent, and maybe a hot girl talking about movies. Then you add the top 10 totally rad internet videos of the week, and voila perfect show. I just fixed your show that's all it needs.

Get rid of the guy that didn't know about games that much and replace him with the angry Nintendo nerd/angry video game nerd.

Video of Angry Nintendo Nerd:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjUz8IT0CYg

This will perfect the show.

[beta7]

the totally rad show isnt bad man, its a good show i seemed to like it... its got some things missing but if they added some nice sound effects here and there you would love it!

[clark05]

Well I watched the first episode. I must say I was really bored the first 5 minutes of the show and the rest was just as hard to watch.

The three people panel does not seem to work in this setup. Before I give up on the show I'll give it two more episodes to see if my feelings change, or if the show changes any.

I'm going to have to agree, I don't really like the green screen or whatever they're standing in front of. Good idea, but I just don't think it works for the entire show. I'll try and watch another episode, if I don't like it I might try back in a few weeks, maybe when the show is more developed.

[nextgenxbox]

I loved the show.

[nextgenxbox]

The chemistry between the hosts wasn't good, you guys were going in all different directions. Here are some idea which would make the totally rad show totally rad, ok it needs more radness and heres what I think you should do.

You need to get that angry oldschool (angry video game nerd/angry nintendo nerd) video game geek on your show, maybe reporting on games from an old school perspective. Basically create correspondents on earth. I say Angry oldschool gamer as your video game correspondent, and maybe a hot girl talking about movies. Then you add the top 10 totally rad internet videos of the week, and voila perfect show. I just fixed your show that's all it needs.

Get rid of the guy that didn't know about games that much and replace him with the angry Nintendo nerd/angry video game nerd.

Video of Angry Nintendo Nerd:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjUz8IT0CYg

This will perfect the show.

Ugh. I just vomited.

[heaven]

i am a fan of all 3 ppl so everything seemed awesome and pretty normal, was a good show.

[weedhappy]

I liked the show, but it didn't seem too radical. Is the "rad" in mocking refrence the the 1980's WTFUThinking idea? Is it supposed to be Like MST3K but with fun reviews of modern stuff instead of bad movies?
I do think the 3 people are informative and fun (excluding the exploding fist concept) XD JMHO

[teskio]

I agree, been watching diggnation and geekdrome since the beginning. Very different tone. 3 people is one too many, it starts to become a drone in the background, sounds like The View ( :eek:) . You can't all 3 talk at the same time... Other than that, the topics are pretty good.

[ihatecrayons]

Well, I probably loved the show mostly because I am a rabid Alex fan, but I still think it was pretty funny.

[noahe]

I'm a fan of both Geekdrome and Diggnation, but this was pretty bad. I know how hard that is to hear about something you've been working hard on. But what I like about Diggnation and Geekdrome was that they were and are (respectively) very conversational. This came off totally fake and disingenuous. All I saw was, "Please like me. Really, hey look how clever we are. Where am I? (sigh)".

Everyone was talking over each other, while at the same time saying nothing. I didn't feel like I got any info about anything at the end of it. It was all a wash of words flying at me. i think one problem with this line up is that none of them are really geeks. Rather than coming up with sweet catch phrases how about spending some time actually diving into something.

I don't want to hate on Jeff, seems like a nice enough guy. But his fake TV host voice was the worst of the three. Pull it back a bit and you'll be alright.

And lastly to Dan and Jeff... Guys, it might be a touchy situation. But have you heard the theme song to your show? It's got Alex singing on it and it's really kinda lame. Not only is it made of crappy Garageband loops but it's got Alex sounding like a gay little swedish boy singing about this "Totally Rad Show" I'm about to watch. And I'm sorry, but when I think of something being totally rad, it's not that song.

That's all I got.

[d1whowas]

The green-screen needs to go, except for in the opening and segment intros. A set, or even the living room where you answered the questions would be better. The theme song, while I didn't like it at first, is growing on me.

The Raiders refrence was awesome. There needs to be a random movie re-inactment in each ep!!!!

I didn't really mind the over-talking, but one of you def. needs to step up and be a moderator. Tangents are awesome, but you need someone who'll be able to wrap it all up in the end.

[pmardones]

"...it's got Alex sounding like a gay little swedish boy..."

That's pretty much what he sounds like all the time.

[matthewlee]

We love the song by Alex, and I feel the show will find its way, for a 1st show it was good, can't wait to see more.

[matthewlee]

Well, I probably loved the show mostly because I am a rabid Alex fan, but I still think it was pretty funny.

Yeah I get a kick out of Alex as well.

[iggystar]

I wonder if, at this point, the hosts are even reading this thread? I hate to give my opinion if no one is going to consider it.....

Well, I finally saw episode 1 (on vacation) and I'll admit as a die-hard Geekdrome fan it was an adjustment at first, but I was able to put the past behind and get into it.

There's potential to TRS, but it certainly has some rough edges. I like the theme song and I don't mind the green screen, actually, I think it's kind of cool. The "Wonder Triplet" transition smacks of trying a bit too hard.

All the hosts seem knowledgeable and the show was pretty well balanced. I enjoyed the structure of the show, with each topic being given it's own segment. Even though they went off on tangents occasionally they seem to remember and bring it back to the subject at hand.

Now the hosts. Three hosts can work, I've listened to podcasts with more and it works fine, but this group needs some fine tuning. One thing I didn't like Dan seemingly being relegated to "sidekick" status. At times it felt like his opinion was dismissed, which I didn't appreciate. Dan knows plenty, so his views are just as valid as the rest. (Step up to the plate Danny!) Overall everyone needs to relax more, the conversation felt stilted at times. The talking over one another didn't grate me as much, because that's bound to happen and will lessen in time.

Jeff and Alex need to work on putting some heart into their presentation. Look, we are geeks, we are information savvy. Everything said I can find on the internet, at comic-cons, through printed media. The reason I enjoy these types of podcasts has just as much to do with my connection with the hosts, feeling they care and want to include me in their "Radiverse". I want to feel like I have cohorts in my quest to love the things I love, not just anchormen. I appreciate this is show is not going to be as community driven as "other" podcasts and that's fine, but I need to feel as if you not just trying to show that "you're in the know be grateful I'm giving you these nuggets". Other than that as mentioned, Jeff and Alex offer great info so I'm looking forward to seeing how things improve.

So I'm on board. (Sorry for the long post.)

Also, Dan is hot that's a given (your shoutout to Geekscape is reason 506 why I heart you), but so are Jeff and Alex (love redheads).

Edited to add: The theme song was good, the poster very well made..epic. Seriously, it's was a strong opening and I can't wait to see the next episode.

[achance007]

the show was ok, you can tell they are still trying to figure things out. But I have to agree the 3 person panel doesn't work well. It seemed like everybody was trying to compete with each other trying to talk. I think it needs to be a little bit more scripted with 3 people involved. Alex's random stories work well on diggnation but hard for the other people to comment or keep up with. Geekdrome used to be good when they kept more on topic and not just trying to go for laughs.

My question is how regularly is this show going to come out? Its going to be hard for them to keep up with current stories if they are coming out infrequently like Ctrl.alt.chicken.

[trsjeff]

I wonder if, at this point, the hosts are even reading this thread?

We are :)

-Jeff

[trsjeff]

have you heard the theme song to your show? It's got Alex singing on it

Not true, actually, Alex's voice is not in either version of the song.

[iggystar]

We are :)

-Jeff

Cool, that means you are considering the fans. Bonus points for that. :)

[muled]

Cool, that means you are considering the fans. Bonus points for that. :)

And that they have a decently thick skin. Granted the criticisms here are all done with respect but it's still gotta hurt when someone says. "The greenscreen sucks" or "The Wonder Twin Fist bump is so lame". So I definitely give them credit for reading through this. It's gotta be an ego hit.

Looking forward to episode 2. So I can poop on it :)

[rabidbadger]

And that they have a decently thick skin. Granted the criticisms here are all done with respect but it's still gotta hurt when someone says. "The greenscreen sucks" or "The Wonder Twin Fist bump is so lame". So I definitely give them credit for reading through this. It's gotta be an ego hit.

Looking forward to episode 2. So I can poop on it :)

I agree. but as a podcaster myself I would kill for kind of responses these guys are getting. Got a bunch of eps out, I KNOW they are being downloaded, yet I got maybe three emails, and just two (positive) responses on iTunes.

[kwok_talk]

And that they have a decently thick skin. Granted the criticisms here are all done with respect but it's still gotta hurt when someone says. "The greenscreen sucks" or "The Wonder Twin Fist bump is so lame". So I definitely give them credit for reading through this. It's gotta be an ego hit.



That’s a really good point and just points out how easy it is for us to criticize and pick out every flaw (especially being somewhat faceless on an online forum). Major props to them for even being man (men) enough to open a thread like this, which is essentially putting themselves in the line of gunfire. I’m sure they’ve developed thick skin after their time hosting other podcasts, but even that doesn’t necessarily warrant being unmercifully dumped on. So just to echo plenty of others who’ve already said it, you guys are doing awesome and even though it seems not everyone loved it, you’ll have a great fan base still here waiting for the next episode.

[rabidbadger]

Actually, I was the one who opened this thread, but they had the balls to make it sticky. Which, I agree, is really cool...

[kwok_talk]

Actually, I was the one who opened this thread, but they had the balls to make it sticky. Which, I agree, is really cool...

I stand corrected. Thanks for the clarification.

[rabidbadger]

It is a home brew beer making video podcast. Don't like to spam it here but sinxe you asked:

Swillburgbrewery.com

[satori]

We are :)

-Jeff

Well if you are reading this, I'd like to request that Alex attempt to look a little more Tin Tin like.... maybe have a dog named Snowy running around.

[tvma]

Wow, I feel kind of let down. I had just downloaded the quicktime version, I sit down, have an ice cold beer in hand, and I find myself fast forwarding through the show after about 7 or 8 minutes because I just wasn't feeling it. I'm trying really hard not to compare it to other shows, but using others as a benchmark, I just didn't think it was that good. It seems to have potential, but.. mmm just not really "diggin" it...

All three of you guys seem WAY to eager and excited to be on the show, have a show, whatever, that you talk over each other. I'll watch the next one, but I'm definitely not mass mailing the link out.

just my .02

-tvma

[gm_wil]

holy crap . . . tough critics . . . I didn't expect to see a thread like this until after you guys had a few episodes out . . .

. . . I laughed my ass off at the intro . . . I knew what was coming but it was still funny as hell . . .

. . . epic

-

[iggystar]

That’s a really good point and just points out how easy it is for us to criticize and pick out every flaw (especially being somewhat faceless on an online forum). Major props to them for even being man (men) enough to open a thread like this, which is essentially putting themselves in the line of gunfire. I’m sure they’ve developed thick skin after their time hosting other podcasts, but even that doesn’t necessarily warrant being unmercifully dumped on. So just to echo plenty of others who’ve already said it, you guys are doing awesome and even though it seems not everyone loved it, you’ll have a great fan base still here waiting for the next episode.

I think the guys are intelligent enough to weed out those who just want to hate from those of us who want to contribute in their growth in making this a really great podcast. Anytime you put something out for mass consumption you have to be ready for the good and the bad, it's just deciphering what you can actually use for improvement.

I mean we could blow smoke up their behinds, but of what use would that be?

You have to have a thick skin to live in the universe, but I too applaud the fact that they are taking the time to read the criticisms.

[casework]

holy crap . . . tough critics . . . I didn't expect to see a thread like this until after you guys had a few episodes out . . .


It should be more encouraging than discouraging that this many people are ready and willing to give such constructive criticism. It shows the guys that they have a lot of people supporting their work, and in the end, we all want them to succeed.

[gm_wil]

It should be more encouraging than discouraging that this many people are ready and willing to give such constructive criticism. It shows the guys that they have a lot of people supporting their work, and in the end, we all want them to succeed.

"Mr president?"

*chuckle - meant as a joke, not a rip*

-

[nicolie]

the totally rad show is rad. i liked it. it kept my attention and i've never really watched this type of stuff other than a few geekdrome episodes. as far as the 3 panel thing...the more opinions/perspectives the better, i thought it was great!

[thatguywhodoesstuff]

In the first episode, did any one else feel like 3 hosts was border lining too much?

Maybe in episode 3 we can thin it down to two, maybe have Dan and Jeff battle to the death as Alex watches?

[divadawg9234]

<pthe totally rad show is rad. i liked it. it kept my attention and i've never really watched this type of stuff other than a few geekdrome episodes. as far as the 3 panel thing...the more opinions/perspectives the better, i thought it was great!
HEY!!! I know that blue Budda snowman!!

[blackpanther]

Love the new show. It's so good to see Dan back on the 'nets. He's much more upbeat and positive. Be sure NOT to rag on him because he seems like a kind of "sensitive" guy (wink, wink). By sensitive I mean gay. Oh, he's not gay? Well, by sensitive I mean a geek.

[iggystar]

Ok, so I posted in the wrong spot.

[rabidbadger]

As the original poster of this thread, I just wanna say:

I'm only five minutes into episode two and it is already a thousand fold better than the first (which,don't get me wrong, was good, just not great.)

You seem to have a lot of the issues originally mentioned under control, now. Great job.

Proud to be a RADerican.

Unsticky this thread, now. Let's move on...

[leftkidney]

the audio seamed like it was spiking into the RED a lot and was clipping

this is only the first show but you guies know how to make good video by now

I really loved it and for some reason episode 1 is 854x480 and episode 2 is only 640x360 both XviD Large I like to see the 16x9 keep this up if nothing else



keep up the good work I love the show

[horatio616]

I just watched the first two shows and I enjoyed them quite a bit. I'll echo what others have said and say that you guys talked over each other too much. It's the curse of podcasting and it happens on nearly every ensemble podcast I've ever seen. The only one I've ever seen and listened to that doesn't suffer from this is iFanboy. All podcasters should listen and follow their example. I think with time this show will get better with the chemistry and this won't be as much of an issue.

Personally, I would like to see the video games section shortened, the movie section expanded (adding DVD reviews), and maybe a tv section added. That's just me though. I don't game so much anymore.

[taint]

I like the conversation they get going. Yeah, sometimes they talk over eachother, and yeah they sometimes go way offtopic but that's how real conversations work. We don't need mega editing, or we lose the little puns or the stupid jokes that don't even make sense (which make the show hilarious anyway). The more you edit, the less personality you get.

[mariot]

First off I would like to say that I cant stop watching you guys are really funny. What you do is basically what me and my buddies do. Which we don't get to do that often. So listening to you guys do it is just hilarious.

Probably could be a bit longer I think. There ends up being rushed comments about things because you guys do need to move on.

That being said. You should probably get some stuff set up beforehand as to what you are going to say about said topic. And then allow for a retort from the other two then move on. Would keep the show with the same since of Raditiousness just a bit more structure.

I really do like the backgrounds it keeps with the whole feel of Radiousity.

To up the feel of Radiculousness. You could get Alex girlfriend on with a bikini when you pick a fighter. That would just be random but really Rad.

Oh and answer my questions there really important.

[thesimo]

the only real thing i can crit is teh talking over each other all the time, its really annoying, the 1upYours podcast does it too and makes it un-listenable for me :)

[wideawakewesley]

Which moron thought doing a weekly show the length of a TV episode was a good idea? We already have tonnes of those, I don't need another one cluttering up my life. I bet it was some stupid management decision at Rev3. The guys all seem like smart, attractive, totally rad geeks, so I can't for one minute envisage it was their idea.

If you're reading this, please please please do shorter daily shows. Hell, you could record it all as one and then cut it up into each segment. Might allow you to do more varied content then too! Not to mention you could be raking in the coin from more ads!

p.s. Ditch the editor, he's terrible. I know this great guy called Mike who could do a stellar job for you!

[sherr]

Personally, I think the format is alright.

Although, I kinda miss the old openings. Maybe you guys could use a new opening for the first day of the week?
Besides, for people who are really busy (like me), a new smaller bite of an episode every weekday helps out.
Btw, the Versus segment was awesome. My shamelist has increased tenfold (well, not really) after like, 5 minutes of watching.

Forgot to post this, but I really miss the e-mail segments. I hope you guys bring those back too.

[iggy]

Ok, so I posted in the wrong spot.

See! Proof of my previous existance!

We aren't really bumping this thread are we?