Doctor Whovians, Unite! ** SPOILERS ** [Archive]

masherscf

04-02-2007, 12:20 AM

Where's the nine foot scarf? Just aint the same since the early 70s. Was into Space:1999 at the time anyway...

I think the nine-foot auto-erotic appliance is a rather campy accessory for this decade...no?

In any case, we were talking about Martha. However, we can also talk about Captain Jack (http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/characters/jack.shtml). He's much more your type. The rumor is that he'll be returning in series three. This is great news, My wife and I both loved him in the first series.

rabidbadger

04-02-2007, 12:57 AM

Marth... Maya... same thing...(not?)

satori

04-02-2007, 02:04 AM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/

As soon as the BBC starts selling their eps on line I'll be a happy man. As it is now, it's going to take me at least a day after each ep to watch them. I'm downloading a not so bought copy right now... the one I grabbed earlier seemed to be a 1 hour promo show although it had the same title as the orginal show itself... grrrr.... Anyway, I'll know better about what it is shortly.

rabidbadger

04-02-2007, 02:08 AM

"not so bought"

Love that.

satori

04-02-2007, 03:17 AM

"not so bought"

Love that.

hehe... yeah, I can't take credit for that one, I heard it from Tidus.

I guess that there's a ton of people in the same boat because I got the ep in 2 hours... WOW... Anyway, what a fantatic episode. I swear that David Tennant was channeling Tom Baker a couple of times, it was awesome!

tokenuser

04-02-2007, 03:43 AM

I swear that David Tennant was channeling Tom Baker a couple of times, it was awesome!Well, the Brits think he is TV's coolest man (http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/story/0,10221,21467312-10229,00.html?from=public_rss) at the moment ...

masherscf

04-02-2007, 01:50 PM

As soon as the BBC starts selling their eps on line I'll be a happy man. As it is now, it's going to take me at least a day after each ep to watch them. I'm downloading a not so bought copy right now... the one I grabbed earlier seemed to be a 1 hour promo show although it had the same title as the orginal show itself... grrrr.... Anyway, I'll know better about what it is shortly.

Dude, I torrented it on sunday morning in about 15 minutes. It was buring a DVD for it that took an hour. I think the BBC has some sort of deal with Azureus to offer their shows online.

tokenuser

04-02-2007, 03:30 PM

masherscf

04-02-2007, 06:03 PM

For the first time, I have downloaded a BT of Dr Who and watched it before it was broadcast in the US. Wont stop me from watching it on SciFi later on, via a DVR, fast forwarding through the ads ... so I am not really depriving someone of revenue am I?

Great episode. Noone does cheesy aliens like the BBC :)

Notice that there was only one puppet head. The rest of the "aliens" all wore helmets.

To put things in perspective, you should rent some of the William Hartnell episodes from Netflix. It's pretty funny to see the awful sets and poor lighting. You can even see their shadows on the backdrops of landscape. Most Youtube videos have more production value than vintage BBC.

tokenuser

04-02-2007, 07:59 PM

Notice that there was only one puppet head. The rest of the "aliens" all wore helmets.

To put things in perspective, you should rent some of the William Hartnell episodes from Netflix. It's pretty funny to see the awful sets and poor lighting. You can even see their shadows on the backdrops of landscape. Most Youtube videos have more production value than vintage BBC.The BBC SciFi classics are awesome. Low tech, low budget.

Dr Who typifies them, but then you also get shows like Blakes 7, and Space: 1999 (OK, it was an ITC production - still very British ... same cheesy production).

Its all good stuff. While Star Trek was being made and taking itself seriously, these space melodramas were all about having fun with the medium :) ... man, I'd love to see Space:1999 remade ... bring the BSG writing team into it, and the Space:1999 back plot, and I think you would have another great series.

satori

04-02-2007, 11:17 PM

Dude, I torrented it on sunday morning in about 15 minutes. It was buring a DVD for it that took an hour. I think the BBC has some sort of deal with Azureus to offer their shows online.

well yes and no... There are only some shows, most will only have clips. Also I haven't heard that Doctor Who would be part of this. Here's the press release
http://www.zudeo.com/docs/PR20061219_BBC_Content_Partnership.pdf

masherscf

04-10-2007, 01:44 AM

Episode 2 of series three of the revived Doctor Who is up.

Shakespeare references are understood, but J.K. Rowling too?

Totally Rad? You decide...

jt112

04-13-2007, 06:24 AM

THANK GOD!!! i am so excited that someone else watched doctor who.

ok so i have a lot of thoughts. OK from the start i really got into her character. i was very concerned that she would replace rose as his love interest and he would forget her like he did every other companion (which we saw in the school reunion episode). but she really became a new character. she seems older, independent and very intelligent. where rose responded to the doctor and his world emotionally making him more human and providing us with an ordinary human voice in the show, i feel that martha does the same but with more conviction and lacking some of the emotional resonance that rose brought.

having said that. i must say that the first 2 episodes were great. david tennant is the shit. so sexy, quirky and dark all at the same time. he is the reason i keep coming back to the show. i love the Shakespeare episode. all the small references were great. i loved how they made shakespeare into this over hyped rock star that the doctor admired. and all the lines were great. loved the hamlet bit and all the lines he tried to steal. "all the world's a stage" "ooo... i must use that" classic.

but the scene in the bedroom? i really don't know how i feel about it. i mean i really like their chemistry and i can see a mutual attraction but i really don't want him to forget about rose. and he obviously is still thinking about her. i don't know. maybe they are going to take this in a different direction. maybe unrequited love? i don't know. but i loved it. just a little worried about how they are going to treat rose in the coming episodes.

Knight42

04-13-2007, 08:02 PM

Yep, gotta do it. I watched all of season 27 and 28 that way (before Sci-Fi aired them). For the new doctors, I prefer Eccelston, but Tennant did OK. But channeling Tom Baker (and worse, being called the best Doctor ever) is a mistake! Tom Baker was the best Doctor ever and had the best assistants! Oh, and a little extra bonus, K-9! Again, I age myself, but I go back to the Pertwee days and, even better, once volunteered at a PBS pledge drive to save Doctor Who (I think it was during the Peter Davidson days). So, call me a Whovian, even if the new episodes don't quite reflect the hokey fun the old ones were. At least IMHO.

masherscf

04-15-2007, 06:39 PM

but the scene in the bedroom? i really don't know how i feel about it. i mean i really like their chemistry and i can see a mutual attraction but i really don't want him to forget about rose. and he obviously is still thinking about her. i don't know. maybe they are going to take this in a different direction. maybe unrequited love? i don't know. but i loved it. just a little worried about how they are going to treat rose in the coming episodes.

I think you git the nail on the head. He and Martha have a different chemistry. Rose was a person who felt her way about while Martha is much more cerebral. The relationship between the Doctor will be one sided. Martha will love The Doctor and the Doctor will not return the feelings.

In any case, Episode 3 of the latest series is out. This series is batting 3 out of 3 for me do far. Your thoughts?

I do think Tom Baker was the best Doctor. However, Billie Piper was as good as any other companion. Baker had the privilege of many companions it helped keep it fresh.

tokenuser

04-16-2007, 06:54 PM

As far as companions go, Martha Jones isn't too bad. She has a clue and stands up to Doctor "Smith".

Gridlock - great episode :)

Next week looks good as well ... welcome back Daleks. I knew they would get them back in somehow.

cadguy

04-17-2007, 02:14 PM

Martha is a vast improvement over Rose, i'd swap dna with her (see ep1)

Knight42

04-17-2007, 09:17 PM

Martha is a vast improvement over Rose, i'd swap dna with her (see ep1)

Ahhhh, even though I have yet to watch my downloads, how can you say that? Rose is perfection at it's best! I even own her pop CD now (well, I picked it up at a discount shop for cheap for fun). No one can top Rose, NO ONE! :)

Knight42

masherscf

04-17-2007, 11:16 PM

Ahhhh, even though I have yet to watch my downloads, how can you say that? Rose is perfection at it's best! I even own her pop CD now (well, I picked it up at a discount shop for cheap for fun). No one can top Rose, NO ONE! :)

Knight42

I'm a kinda in the Rose camp as well. However, I really haven't missed her that much in these new episodes.

New companions is much more common in Doctor Who. There have been nine doctors and thirty-six companions.

Rose... Martha...Rose...Martha...Zoe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoe_Heriot) smokes 'em both!

satori

04-18-2007, 02:51 AM

Rose for sure... her and the second Romana are the two best companions he's had.

masherscf

04-18-2007, 11:40 AM

Rose for sure... her and the second Romana are the two best companions he's had.

I do like Lala Ward. But Mary Tamm was good as Romana too.

Leela was just plain scary... in a good way.

Was anyone else not surprised that the Face's message to the Doctor was "You are not alone." I watched the "Doctor Who: Confidential" companion episode and Russel T. Davies, the show-runner, said that they originally were going to let that slip at the end of the series two opener. However, they were going to focus series two on disposing of Rose and they figured they didn't want to kill of the Face of Boa after all.

Scuttle-Butt on the internet seems to favor a 50/50 split between either the Master or Romana returning. Of those two choices, Davies winks and nudges leads me to suspect the Master.

I'd love to see Romana back but I'm betting on the darker option myself.

masherscf

04-18-2007, 03:28 PM

Appartently, Sarah Jane Smith is the "most popular" Doctor Who Companion. I always thought she was a little whinny... but maybe I like that about her.

tokenuser

04-18-2007, 04:07 PM

Scuttle-Butt on the internet seems to favor a 50/50 split between either the Master or Romana returning. Of those two choices, Davies winks and nudges leads me to suspect the Master.

I'd love to see Romana back but I'm betting on the darker option myself.It will be a stretch to bring the Master back.

Nothing saying Romana can't return ... nothing stopping her from a regeneration making her bad (or at least mentally unstable - think Colin Baker) ... and it then opens up the option for little time lords in the future.

... and while not fro Gallifrey, if you read some of the companion information online, Ace was to be trained as a Time Lord ... so maybe he is the last from Gallifrey, but not the last Time Lord.

BTW - No love for Peri as a companion? Leela in skins was good, Peri showing skin was just as good.

Neebs

04-18-2007, 04:10 PM

I never really saw many others series where the companion wasn't Rose or Martha other than the odd, as satori put it, "not so bought" episodes that have come into my possession. I always mean to go out and get copies of the earlier stuff but just always slips my mind. Anyways, with only seeing these two companions I can whole-heartedly say that after only three episodes I prefer Martha over Rose. Mainly on personality, mind you. I just never really liked Rose's character and I extremely disliked Mickey and damn near cheered at the television when he decided to stay in the parallel universe.

satori

04-19-2007, 05:00 AM

wideawakewesley

04-19-2007, 09:09 AM

My thoughts on Doc Who since it's return...

Rose was great and Martha looks like she'll be great too.

Tennant is an improvement over Eccleston, but I was hoping for a bigger improvement.

Sick of the Daleks showing up all the time.

Would like to see a smattering of alien world episodes.

Desperate for the Master to return and desperate to have a show where a TARDIS changes shape!

djhyjak

04-19-2007, 06:00 PM

Martha is by far sexier then Rose, Im conflicted with the whole Doctor as a sexual person thing. While i say He is most definitely a Time Pimp, Rose isnt the first time they showed he diggs the chics Romana had that honor befor Rose. And i think the Rose affair added a selfishness to the Doctor that wasn't there before. I dont think Martha is the only one that attracted the doctor is just afraid of repeating mistakes.

The other timelord will more then likely be the Master. Who is the only other person that can equal him, and since the Master can no longer regenerate he posses bodies, it would be cool for him to return in the body of a past character.

Then there is a long shot character they could bring back, Dax was a time lord who left like the doctor did but he chose to stay out of timelord affairs and sold his services as an inventor.

Im getting tired of the Daleks, do we have to have them every season? Give this generation of fans something new.

wideawakewesley

04-19-2007, 06:25 PM

Im getting tired of the Daleks, do we have to have them every season? Give this generation of fans something new.

Totally agree. How did you feel they handled the Cybermen? I was quite disappointed with their appearance.

Also does anyone who's commented on this thread watch Torchwood and did you like it? I personally loved it.

Wes

Knight42

04-19-2007, 09:11 PM

Cybermen - Let's see, I think the look of the Cybermen was fine, a newer look on an older image. It wasn't bad in my opinion and somewhat updated there look.

Sidekicks - I loved Romana so much. I had a friend in high school that dressed as her for Halloween. Oh, and I had a huge crush on her back then. So many great sidekicks. I did love Sarah Jane too... But the best sidekick was always K-9! :)

The Doctor - I still think Eccelston was better than Tennant, but Baker takes them all (with Davidson a close second). Heck, I've watched since Pertwee (and saw him at a Whovian conference where he was a jerk to some patrons). But, Eccelston vs. Tennat, Eccelston wins... I think Tennant is too boyish looking for a version of The Doctor.

And, as much as everyone loves the Daleks, it's amazing that the entire race was wiped out (supposedly) yet they keep popping up.

Knight42

wideawakewesley

04-20-2007, 08:25 AM

Oops, when I said disappointed with their appearance, I didn't mean physical appearance, I quite liked that. I just think the story and way they were used was a bit lame.

Wes

masherscf

04-20-2007, 12:09 PM

Complaining about the Daleks in Doctor Who is like complaining about the Klingons in Star Trek.

Nevertheless, the point about the Daleks is well taken. Most Doctors ever encountered them only one or twice, not once or twice a series.

I guess they've sunk some money into building the Dalek suits and they don't want to let them get too dusty.

I love me some Peri, but her best aspects are in her shirt, I'm afraid.

BTW, I was just out walking and discovered this quaint little waterfall...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/193/465576602_4b39544809.jpg

masherscf

05-01-2007, 08:49 PM

I refuse to let this topic die!

Episode 5 of the new series has aired.

No love for the Daleks?

tokenuser

05-01-2007, 11:38 PM

I refuse to let this topic die!

Episode 5 of the new series has aired.

No love for the Daleks?... and STILL there is a dalek roaoming the universe. Loved its name - Dalek KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!!!!!!!!.

I am waiting on a cameo from William Shatner.

kahunablair

05-02-2007, 07:01 PM

Episode 5 wasn't bad. Don't understand the need for the pigmen though! haha

All in all, not a bad season so far.

masherscf

05-02-2007, 11:40 PM

Episode 5 wasn't bad. Don't understand the need for the pigmen though! haha

All in all, not a bad season so far.

You apparently don't understand Doctor Who. Pigmen were cheaper than building more Daleks.

satori

05-03-2007, 02:24 AM

You apparently don't understand Doctor Who. Pigmen were cheaper than building more Daleks.

k, you need to go back and watch the old eps. The Daleks nearly always had a slave race that were vastly mentally inferior to do grunt work. Typically they jetison the slave race as soon as they go off world. It dates all the way back to the Peter Cushing movies of the mid 60s.

masherscf

05-03-2007, 02:41 AM

k, you need to go back and watch the old eps.

Um, Ok... Peter Cushing... That movie isn't part of the Doctor Who canon.

In any case, it's impossible to watch the older episodes like "The Dalek Master Plan", they don't exist anymore.

When the Dalek's used "slave races" it was always a plot device to save production costs.

The Dalaks were engineered by a humanoid scientist names "Davros" in the classic Tom Baker episode "Genesis of the Daleks." This story involved a civil war on the planet Skarow. Davros engineered the Daleks for the "Kaled" faction to be super soldiers. The humanoid Kaleds were like NAZIs about racial purity. The Daleks, who were engineered from Kaled DNA, absorbed that attitude. The Daleks ended up killing everyone on Skarow who wasn't a Dalek. Of course, Davros escaped and showed up later in a Peter Davidson episode. Apparently, there was a Dalek civil war going on for a time.

They only ever built about four Daleks.

bobafettjm

05-03-2007, 03:09 AM

But, Eccelston vs. Tennat, Eccelston wins... I think Tennant is too boyish looking for a version of The Doctor.

I really liked Eccelston as well.

wideawakewesley

05-03-2007, 10:15 AM

Can I just say, the last two episodes of Doctor Who in the UK, sucked big time. They bring back the Daleks (again) for a two parter and it just stank to high heaven.

Still, at least Torchwood has started filming Season 2.

Wes

satori

05-03-2007, 04:02 PM

Um, Ok... Peter Cushing... That movie isn't part of the Doctor Who canon.
yes it is... and so are all the instances of slave races from Pertwee and baker on up.

In any case, it's impossible to watch the older episodes like "The Dalek Master Plan", they don't exist anymore.

When the Dalek's used "slave races" it was always a plot device to save production costs.

read the books, the daleks had the concept of slave races programmed into them on Skaro. Terry Nation who invented them wrote this plot point in himself. Daleks obviously would not have the manipulative skills to do certain types of work so they would use slave races. It wasn't production costs, it was simple logic. In the 60s and 70s they left it simple. It wasn't until the 80s that the Daleks were suddenly able to manipulate gravity... further it was not until the latest versions that they could fly with out the aid of some kind of hover platform.

The Dalaks were engineered by a humanoid scientist names "Davros" in the classic Tom Baker episode "Genesis of the Daleks." This story involved a civil war on the planet Skarow.
it's actually spelled Skaro

Davros engineered the Daleks for the "Kaled" faction to be super soldiers. The humanoid Kaleds were like NAZIs about racial purity. The Daleks, who were engineered from Kaled DNA, absorbed that attitude. The Daleks ended up killing everyone on Skarow who wasn't a Dalek. Of course, Davros escaped and showed up later in a Peter Davidson episode. Apparently, there was a Dalek civil war going on for a time.

They only ever built about four Daleks.

this is standard lore, but they built a lot more than 4 Daleks, especially considering they blew them up all the time. Here's a shot of 6 at once:
http://www.fantascienza.com/magazine/imgbank/NEWS/daleks.jpg

And here's a shot from the mid 70s when they pulled all the models they had out of storage
http://www.markbourne.com/images/London/daleks_westminsterbridge.jpg

masherscf

05-03-2007, 05:17 PM

yes it is...

This is pointless canon argument, I admit. However, several texts I have, chronicling the history of Doctor Who do not count Peter Cushing as one of the ten incarnations of Doctor who. Probably because the first Cushing film predates the first regeneration.

The source of all accurate knowledge lists the ten incarnations of the doctor thusly

1. First Doctor, played by William Hartnell (1963–1966)
2. Second Doctor, played by Patrick Troughton (1966–1969)
3. Third Doctor, played by Jon Pertwee (1970–1974)
4. Fourth Doctor, played by Tom Baker (1974–1981)
5. Fifth Doctor, played by Peter Davison (1982–1984)
6. Sixth Doctor, played by Colin Baker (1984–1986)
7. Seventh Doctor, played by Sylvester McCoy (1987–1989, 1996)
8. Eighth Doctor, played by Paul McGann (1996)
9. Ninth Doctor, played by Christopher Eccleston (2005)
10. Tenth Doctor, played by David Tennant (2005–present)

The Peter Cushing films are regarded as part of the Doctor Who history, but he's not a regeneration of the actual Doctor. It is something of an alternate story line. Indeed, they seem to be shortened motion picture versions of several of Terry Nation's original Hartnell episodes.

In any case, I was not debating the Dalek's use of slaves but that the Dalek's use of slaves was probably a cost cutting measure originally. Nevertheless, that aspect of their nature was built in from the beginning.

As for only having four, I should have said they never seemed to have for than four-at-a-time.
You have impressed me with you Whovian knowledge.

tokenuser

05-03-2007, 05:27 PM

As for only having four, I should have said they never seemed to have for than four-at-a-time. If the BBC Wales production team want more than four daleks, all they need to do is head to a Doctor Who convention. There are more than likely 100 fans in the room who have built themselves daleks of all sorts :)

masherscf

05-06-2007, 10:32 PM

So.

Who is this mysterious Mr. Saxon? Just how does he know do much about the doctor? And, why is he interested in Regeneration?

Plus, he doesn't look at all like Eric Roberts.

http://wheelinspace.com/images/EnemiesMonst/master_rob.jpg

satori

05-07-2007, 01:31 AM

You have impressed me with you Whovian knowledge.

lets high five and agree to disagree on the cushing point. :D

I wasn't super impressed with this weeks ep, but what did you think of scenes from the next episode (should be out in 2 weeks due to that euro-idol thingy)?

tokenuser

05-07-2007, 02:56 AM

lets high five and agree to disagree on the cushing point. :D

I wasn't super impressed with this weeks ep, but what did you think of scenes from the next episode (should be out in 2 weeks due to that euro-idol thingy)?This weeks episode was mediocre at best. At least the BBC creature shop did the latex monsters in such a way that they were believably bad - the CGI looked like it was for a boss level in Castle Wolfenstein.

I am playing catchup on Torchwood .... damn, SciFi needs to pick that one up. Season 2 started taping April 30 and has more Dr Who crossovers - awesome.

satori

05-07-2007, 05:26 AM

I am playing catchup on Torchwood .... damn, SciFi needs to pick that one up. Season 2 started taping April 30 and has more Dr Who crossovers - awesome.

you think that's bad on Torchwood not on Sci-fi channel? Hows about checking at the end of the show to see who they partnered with to film it... that's right... the CBC... The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, our crown owned national television station... Think they play it here? Nope! Haven't even got Season 1 here yet. I do not feel even remotely bad downloading it on torrents considering my tax dollars paid for it.

edit, oh you said taping... I read airing... :(

masherscf

05-07-2007, 11:35 AM

I am playing catchup on Torchwood .... damn, SciFi needs to pick that one up. Season 2 started taping April 30 and has more Dr Who crossovers - awesome.

Do you think Sci-fi is ready for "Torchwood"? I love the show, adore the Captain Jack Harkness character (not to be confused with other Captain Jacks) and I think John Barrowman is about as much fun to watch as any man has a right to be. I won't spoil it, but the first series finale has a huge pay-off.

However, I'm not sayin' we live in a country of homophobic loonies. But, I'm not sure Sci-fi is going to take a chance on lead character that is so unabashedly gay.

Not "Funny, silly, stupid" gay... Thank you Phatty...

I'm not talking, American TV stereotype "Will and Grace" gay or even TLC adaptation "What not to wear", I'm gay but it doesn't matter because I have excellent taste in clothes, Clinton Kelly gay.

I'm talkin' full bore, unapologetic, no qualification necessary, full male testosterone, 100% man, your young male children are gonna wanna grow up to be me, while I'm saving the universe for all you worthless humans, I still enjoy snogging with men, gay.

satori

05-07-2007, 12:08 PM

Do you think Sci-fi is ready for "Torchwood"? I love the show, adore the Captain Jack Harkness character (not to be confused with other Captain Jacks) and I think John Barrowman is about as much fun to watch as any man has a right to be.

However, I'm not sayin' we live in a country of homophobic loonies. But, I'm not sure Sci-fi is going to take a chance on lead character that is so unabashedly gay.

Not "Funny, silly, stupid" gay... Thank you Phatty...

He was bi when he appeared on Doctor Who... When did the gay switch get flipped?

masherscf

05-07-2007, 01:58 PM

He was bi when he appeared on Doctor Who... When did the gay switch get flipped?

Well, the character is technically bi-sexual or omni-sexual as my wife describes him. However, other that ephemeral flirtations with Gwen, Tash and Rose, he's only been really romantic with male characters.

There's no agenda, I just think that Russell T. Davis wanted Jack's sexuality to be more than just the passing gag it was in Doctor Who. Doctor Who is a show designed for family viewing. This means that complicated sexual motivations are not explored. "Torchwood" is a lot more adults-only and Captain Jack's attraction to men becomes major part of his character his motivation.

Like you, I considered Jack to be functionally "bi-sexual" in a futuristic "I'll sleep with anyone or anything" kinda way. This was how his character was protrayed in "Doctor Who". That kind of multi-level tongue-in-cheek treatment is perfect for children and adults watching the show together. The references will fly by those not sophisticated enough to but it together. But, adults would smile knowingly.

However, as I became involved with "Torchwood", I realized that Davis was going to be much less coy about Jack's sexuality. In my opinion, it does work.

In our favor, Doctor Who audiences in the states are already much more sophisticated than U.K. audiences. That is, not as many kids watch it here. U.S. Doctor Who fans tend to be hard-core science fiction geeks and older folks who watched Doctor Who on PBS during the 70's and 80's. In that light, "Torchwood" may do well here.

tokenuser

05-07-2007, 02:33 PM

I'm not talking, American TV stereotype "Will and Grace" gay or even TLC adaptation "What not to wear", I'm gay but it doesn't matter because I have excellent taste in clothes, Clinton Kelly gay. I am scared that you know that guys name. I am even more scared that I knew who you were talking about (even if I didn't know his name :) )
I'm talkin' full bore, unapologetic, no qualification necessary, full male testosterone, 100% man, your young male children are gonna wanna grow up to be me, while I'm saving the universe for all you worthless humans, I still enjoy snogging with men, gay.I have been watching the "Torchwood: Declassified" shows as well, and in Ep7, following the whole Toshiko with the pendant thing, they mentioned that each of the primary cast had had a bisexual encounter in the series.

Might make it a little too risque for SciFi in primetime, and I can't see the Canucks going for it either ... but the DVDs are going to sell like mad :)

Well, the character is technically bi-sexual or omni-sexual as my wife describes him. However, other that ephemeral flirtations with Gwen, Tash and Rose, he's only been really romantic with male characters.I think he is try sexual - try sex with anything. We know he had at least one hetero relationship in the past - with Estelle Cole, the woman with the fairies.

masherscf

05-07-2007, 02:52 PM

I think he is try sexual - try sex with anything. We know he had at least one hetero relationship in the past - with Estelle Cole, the woman with the fairies.

Oh, I forgot about that. I could make a fairies joke, but I'll leave that for someone less imaginative.

Spot Captain Jack: (...and he can sing!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5KM2HosqOo

Stopikingonme

05-07-2007, 05:45 PM

"Watch out here comes the master race" That was awesome.

I really like Tennant as Doc Who. I think no matter who is playing the good doctor you usually end up liking the one you first saw playing the Doctor. Am I alone in this, or has anyone else had the same thing happen? I started with David Tennant and started watching the older episodes afterward, but have always like Tennant best. He is really good at bringing out the best parts of the Doc Who character such as optimism, and charisma, with the innate ability to always seem to be in charge of every situation.

Has anyone else noticed that Christopher Eccleston was recently in a sci-fi show in the states? A pretty famous one? hmm,hmm? It even took me second to realize it was him. He had a full grown beard, but he was awesome!

tokenuser

05-07-2007, 06:46 PM

Has anyone else noticed that Christopher Eccleston was recently in a sci-fi show in the states? A pretty famous one? hmm,hmm? It even took me second to realize it was him. He had a full grown beard, but he was awesome!But, he was INVISIBLE! How are we suposed to see an invisible man??

Tom Baker defined Who for me. Jon Pertwee was stuck on Earth and rode around with U.N.I.T. a lot - he was my first real Doctor Who experience - first in black and white, then colour. Peter Davison could have been a good Doctor except for his association with being a vet in All Creatures Great and Small.

Still, I like liked Eccleston, but think that Tennant brings a slightly psychotic edge to the Doctor that Eccleston was lacking.

AlaskaLoneWolf

05-07-2007, 08:39 PM

Best way to catch an invisible man is with Glue. SuperGlue. Like a large puddle, poured in a circle around something shiny, interesting or otherwise valuable. Of course, everyone likes porn, so a 50th Anniversary Edition of Playboy might work. Just a thought. [Grin]

AlaskaLoneWolf

05-07-2007, 08:42 PM

....and yes, as far as Time Lords go, Baker was the hand down ultimate. Wish they did justice in the new series. Thought K-9 could've been a lot more than the shab hodgepodge, I mean, by way of comparison, look at what the advances in special effects did for BattleStar Galactica... The robots were cool in the original, but in the new series, they were breathtaking.

masherscf

05-07-2007, 10:31 PM

I find that Battlestar Galactica is a little less honest about their budget constraints. Doctor who visual will occasioanlly look crappy. But, Battlestar Galactica might go for a few episodes without any new visual effects at all.

In any case, Doctor Who was never known to be a big spender.

I like Tom Baker and Peter Davidson. Ironically, David plays like a fusion of the two. Was it Picasso who said, "Good artists imitate and great artists steal."

Stopikingonme

05-08-2007, 02:43 AM

By the way for those who didn't quite get that...Christopher Eccleston played an invisible man in the TV show Heroes in the states. (Love that show btw)

I have very few problems with the new Battlestar Galactica. Your right about the special affects though. The episodes that rely heavily on the special effects go beyond (in my opinion) what all other cable sci-fi shows can offer. The episodes without them rely on character development (the weaker aspect of the show, I think). The problem is that if I had a choice between spreading the good space fights and CG moments throughout all the episodes I think it would take away from the "epic'ness" of the show.

I just ranted about Battlestar Galactica in a Doc Who thread...sorry (please don't....exxxterminate!!....ahem)

So Masherchief, do you guys get Battlestar in the UK?

masherscf

05-08-2007, 03:04 AM

So Masherchief, do you guys get Battlestar in the UK?

It's just Masher. I live near New York City. But yes, they do get BSG in the UK. They see it before us, as a matter of fact. They also see Stargate SG1 first. You can see the latest season entirely on BT.

wideawakewesley

05-08-2007, 12:47 PM

It's just Masher. I live near New York City. But yes, they do get BSG in the UK. They see it before us, as a matter of fact. They also see Stargate SG1 first. You can see the latest season entirely on BT.

Nah we don't get BSG first anymore, we did in the first season, but not since then. Not sure about SG1.

Wes

p.s. The latest Doc Who episode was another piece of crap. I just hope next weeks episode lives up to the promise of it's trailer.

Stopikingonme

05-08-2007, 03:25 PM

They got them first? I mean come on, just because they're filmed in Canada....sheesh (which is why calley [sp] from the show was on a Tikki Bar TV episode).

Bloody wankers....love yous

Sorry Masher , I just saw your name and immediatly thought of how my nephew pronounces Master Chief. And since I have a Halo2 figure up in my office I constantly hear," Dats Mashercheef!! Wook wook, dere, itsh masher cheef" (my brother plays waaay to much Halo)

satori

05-08-2007, 04:49 PM

Not sure about SG1.

Seeing as SG1 is done and aired already I would think that it's not shown in the UK first.

masherscf

05-08-2007, 04:57 PM

Seeing as SG1 is done and aired already I would think that it's not shown in the UK first.

It hasn't aired completely in the US. Where did you see it Satori?

It is available on bit torrent, so it must have aired someplace...

satori

05-08-2007, 06:13 PM

It's already aired in Western Canada, and I thought it had aired on Sci Fi, but if you say no, then I guess it hasn't.

tokenuser

05-08-2007, 06:20 PM

masherscf

05-08-2007, 07:44 PM

OK - I've finished Torchwood Season 1. Now what ?)
I guess we need to wait for the Dr Who cross over episode now.

BTW - Anyone else pick up on an increased mentioning of UNIT in Torchwood's episodes? I can't recall UNIT being mentioned in Whovian history (on TV - I don't read the books) since Pertwee was stuck on Earth.

Well, members of UNIT appeared in the episode "Aliens of London" during the Eccelston series.

The last appearance before that was in the Sylvester McCoy episode "Battlefield" shorty before the long hiatus.

The existence of both UNIT and Torchwood is a bit of a discontinuity. Of course, The Doctor's involvement in UNIT was extremely secret. Nevertheless, UNIT was not a secret organization and Torchwood would have had to know that they had an scientific adviser of the Doctor's caliber.

Of course, Nicholas Courtney who plays Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart is still alive, but close to eighty. So we won't be seeing him in that form.

tokenuser

05-08-2007, 08:14 PM

Well, members of UNIT appeared in the episode "Aliens of London" during the Eccelston series.

The last appearance before that was in the Sylvester McCoy episode "Battlefield" shorty before the long hiatus.

The existence of both UNIT and Torchwood is a bit of a discontinuity. Of course, The Doctor's involvement in UNIT was extremely secret. Nevertheless, UNIT was not a secret organization and Torchwood would have had to know that they had an scientific adviser of the Doctor's caliber.

Of course, Nicholas Courtney who plays Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart is still alive, but close to eighty. So we won't be seeing him in that form.It would be a nice touch to have Tennant pop out in the TARDIS at a Remembrance ceremony and say "Hello there Brigadier, fancy a cup of tea with an old friend?"

I was never a fan of McCoy as the Doctor, and didn't pay much attention to that series, however now that you mention Aliens of London, it got me thinking that Mikey found info on the Doctor online at one point when they were trying to figure out who who was.

masherscf

05-08-2007, 08:19 PM

It would be a nice touch to have Tennant pop out in the TARDIS at a Remembrance ceremony and say "Hello there Brigadier, fancy a cup of tea with an old friend?"

That would rock. I wonder if the ol' brig can get around without the depends. Brits don't age well.

AlaskaLoneWolf

05-10-2007, 07:07 AM

I want to see an episode where they get lost inside the Tardis. I remember this one in the old series where they basically spent the whole time fighting within the Tardis... it had levels...

wideawakewesley

05-10-2007, 07:33 AM

I want to see an episode where they get lost inside the Tardis. I remember this one in the old series where they basically spent the whole time fighting within the Tardis... it had levels...

I remember it too and I'd love them to explore the TARDIS and the general mythology a lot more.

Wes

masherscf

05-10-2007, 12:37 PM

I remember it too and I'd love them to explore the TARDIS and the general mythology a lot more.

Wes

The TARDIS is kind of a plot device. It's kinda like the transporters on Star Trek. It was conceived as a way to reduce the cost of producing a full-sized vessel for the Doctor and his companions.

Like the transporter, the TARDIS is often used to help the writers resolve stories. Through the years it was achieved an almost character status on it's own.

AlaskaLoneWolf

05-18-2007, 06:54 PM

Stopikingonme

05-18-2007, 07:14 PM

Totally Awesome Really Dreamy Interspace Ship!

Well it should be

tokenuser

05-18-2007, 07:21 PM

Psst - Time And Relative Dimension In Space (it is also Latin for "late" ... as in the root word for tardy).

Stopikingonme

05-18-2007, 08:27 PM

I like mine better than the real one

/pout

masherscf

05-18-2007, 08:40 PM

Masherscf, just out of curiousity, is the binary, at the bottom of your post there, your home telephone number or were you trying to see how high I can count to? <Smile> Incidently, anyone know what TARDIS stands for, 'cuz I think I missed that one....

it's a 128-bit number. If you're curious, split it into 32 sets of four and use the following translation.

0000=0
0001=1
0010=2
0011=3
0100=4
0101=5
0110=6
0111=7
1000=8
1001=9
1010=A
1011=B
1100=C
1101=D
1110=E
1111=F

Take the resulting text and separate them into 16 registers of 2 characters.

Stopikingonme

05-19-2007, 12:21 AM

You son of a *****!!! How dare you post the secret recipe to Bush's Baked Beans!!

http://www.riverfestarkansas.com/JayDuke.jpg

masherscf

05-19-2007, 12:24 AM

You son of a *****!!! How dare you post the secret recipe to Bush's Baked Beans!!

Good guess, but 128 bits is only 16 characters. That wouldn't even store my name.

Stopikingonme

05-19-2007, 06:15 PM

You've obviously never had Bush's Baked Beans.

masherscf

05-21-2007, 01:08 PM

Episode 7 is out, any thoughts.

I didn't enjoy this episode as much as I should have.

Martha did get a Tardis key though. Martha's mom is turning into a real biotch.

wideawakewesley

05-21-2007, 02:26 PM

I fell asleep and my wife said it was another crap episode. Wasn't even the episode they were supposed to be showing (based on the trailers they ran at the end of the last one). That's a run of about four poor episodes now...not good.

Wes

masherscf

05-21-2007, 02:34 PM

That's a run of about four poor episodes now...not good.

Wes

Yes, I was puzzled about the order myself. I wonder where the mistake was?

I think you're being a bit harsh. I liked some of last few episodes. Indeed, "Gridlock" was one of the best. But, that was episode three and were now on seven.

wideawakewesley

05-21-2007, 03:21 PM

masherscf

05-21-2007, 03:38 PM

Hmm, let me be more specific...

Smith & Jones: 7/10
The Shakespeare Code: 8/10
Gridlock: 8/10
Daleks In Manhattan: 5/10
Evolution Of The Daleks: 5/10
The Lazarus Experiment: 6/10
42: ?/10 (will comment when I've finished watching it)

I think I liked "Lazarus" a little more than you. But, you might want to rethink a ten point scale where anything below seven automatically sucks.

wideawakewesley

05-21-2007, 03:53 PM

Maybe the word sucks is a little harsh, I just expect more from Doc Who than just average. I could certainly have marked the Dalek's episodes a little harsher and Doc Who is always watchable...it's just not been as good as the previous two seasons overall, so far.

tokenuser

05-21-2007, 04:15 PM

I think that was the fastest I ever managed to obtain an episode. Wow.

I enjoyed the story for Lazarus, but the effects were really ordinary overall. When they go for photorealism, and don't quite hit the mark, I think that is 10x worse than going for cheesey BBC creature shop latex and foam rubber (eg Dalek/Human hybrids, human pigs ... )

I'd have pushed the dalek eps to a solid 6 or even a 7 on the WAW scale, but generally agree with the others.

kahunablair

05-21-2007, 04:28 PM

I'm going to have to agree with Wes here. I love Doctor Who, have since I was little, but the last few episodes have seemed to be lacking to me. I haven't seen the Lazarus episode yet so I'll hold my judgement till then. I think Tennant is still doing a good job, but I'm starting to think maybe it's Agyeman's Martha Jones that is throwing me off. I don't know why, but I'm just not a huge fan of her.

JohnnySwift

05-21-2007, 05:17 PM

I agree, she kind of throws me off, too - I miss Rose.

I just watched Gridlock yesterday. So only 4 episodes to catch up to the season.

It's been a wonderful show so far.

masherscf

05-21-2007, 09:58 PM

I enjoyed the story for Lazarus, but the effects were really ordinary overall. When they go for photorealism, and don't quite hit the mark, I think that is 10x worse than going for cheesey BBC creature shop latex and foam rubber (eg Dalek/Human hybrids, human pigs ... )

The quality of their CG visuals is really limited buy their budget. I tend not to fault them too much. Most of it beats the paper mache' creatures of the bad ol' days. In any case, sometimes their effort keep costs down is really, really, distracting. The overuse of the villain first person perspective, for example, is often used to eliminate a most costly effect.

Then there was the episode last year where Rose and The Doctor hardly even appeared. It turned out that the previous episode as so over budget that they penned this episode in order just to save money. However, this trick has been used by budget Canadian produced TV for years. Stargate SG1 is often a player short in some episodes.

tokenuser

05-21-2007, 11:37 PM

The quality of their CG visuals is really limited buy their budget. I tend not to fault them too much. Most of it beats the paper mache' creatures of the bad ol' days. In any case, sometimes their effort keep costs down is really, really, distracting. The overuse of the villain first person perspective, for example, is often used to eliminate a most costly effect.

Then there was the episode last year where Rose and The Doctor hardly even appeared. It turned out that the previous episode as so over budget that they penned this episode in order just to save money. However, this trick has been used by budget Canadian produced TV for years. Stargate SG1 is often a player short in some episodes.Some times they seem to use a visual for the same of using a visual. Old school Dr Who built as much tension by what wasn't seen as what was seen.

Cut back the crappy visuals, bump up the quality of the ones that are included. Torchwood hits the mark. Doctor Who ... not so much. The CGI done by the BBC has been great, but they need to focus on the good, and drop the mediocre.

masherscf

05-21-2007, 11:58 PM

Some times they seem to use a visual for the same of using a visual. Old school Dr Who built as much tension by what wasn't seen as what was seen.

Great observation T/U! This reminds me of JAWS, favorite movie of 'Badge and my wife. The original draft called for seeing the shark from the very first frame. Unfortunately, Bruce, the animatronic shark, was a real peace of shit. Spielberg was forced to make other creative choices that undoubtedly improved the existing material.

It's ironic that if JAWS was made today they should use CGI to create the original scripted vision and it would be gorgeous but not as good. It's the "Michael Bay" effect. Or, should I say the "Lucas" effect?

tokenuser

05-22-2007, 09:43 PM

Just watched 42. A solid B+ episode. Minimal CGI, but it built the drama.
THAT is classic Doctor Who.

masherscf

05-22-2007, 09:46 PM

Just watched 42. A solid B+ episode. Minimal CGI, but it built the drama.
THAT is classic Doctor Who.

If you're interested, you should think about "acquiring" *ahem* the Doctor Who:Confidential companion series. It's an excellent look behind the scenes.

tokenuser

05-22-2007, 11:08 PM

If you're interested, you should think about "acquiring" *ahem* the Doctor Who:Confidential companion series. It's an excellent look behind the scenes.
Yeah - I should. I would watch Torchwood, then watch Torchwood:Confidential, but I haven't done it with Doctor Who ... can't hurt to aquire something that will never be shown over here right?

masherscf

05-22-2007, 11:38 PM

Yeah - I should. I would watch Torchwood, then watch Torchwood:Confidential, but I haven't done it with Doctor Who ... can't hurt to aquire something that will never be shown over here right?

I didn't discover "Doctor Who: Confidential" until the second series. Much to my disappointment, the didn't include the entire first series episodes on the DVD set. Instead, they put on 15-minute cut down versions....totally lame. We'll talk about them when the make "The Totally Lame Show."

Of course, torrents only works for a short period after a show is aired and the entire episodes are unlikely ever to be aired in the US. :(

masherscf

05-25-2007, 01:51 AM

The episodes "Daleks In Manhattan" and "Evolution of the Daleks" inspired us to visit the Empire State Building.

DALEKS!
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/203/511468286_486318a3f5_m.jpg

satori

05-25-2007, 06:06 AM

The episodes "Daleks In Manhattan" and "Evolution of the Daleks" inspired us to visit the Empire State Building.

DALEKS!

Clearly you nee to stay away from the top floor unless you want to speak Swinese

masherscf

05-25-2007, 11:07 AM

Clearly you nee to stay away from the top floor unless you want to speak Swinese

I'm already a "sexist pig," does that help?

Nah, the very top-floor was $15 extra per person. It's best we stuck to floor 86.

wideawakewesley

06-17-2007, 10:31 PM

masherscf

06-18-2007, 01:36 AM

JohnnySwift

06-18-2007, 02:03 AM

Yeah, this show is awesome right now. I don't normally anticipate a new episode from a television show - but Dr. Who has me doing just that!

satori

06-18-2007, 12:45 PM

This thread needed a bump after the last four episodes, which have all been first class Dr. Who. I can't believe how up and down this series has been.

I can't wait to see John Simm's take on a the character he's playing.

Wes

I won't wreck it for you, but wow!!! to have my two favorite beeb shows do a cross-over for actors was fantastic. Life on Mars really made last year, talk about out of nowhere... It's derivative of Iain Banks book "The Bridge", but with a great twist.

***Spoiler alert of Utopia ep:

OK, for anyone that watched this ep I have to say that I am entirely annoyed that they brought the Master back. His character was entirely abused by the writers in the post baker years as something to throw out when they ran out of ideas. Looking for a villain for any given situation, I know, throw the bloody Master in! It makes me wonder what the next season will be like in terms of writing if they're pulling him out now. Still, maybe John Simms can change my mind, if anyone can do it he can.

halden

06-18-2007, 03:25 PM

Blink and Utopia have been Killer Episodes, the best since the rebirth of the series.

satori

06-18-2007, 04:22 PM

Blink and Utopia have been Killer Episodes, the best since the rebirth of the series.

agreed... that rebirth of the daleks episodic duo was simply total crap. I loved the backdrop, but making the daleks human was ridiculous. If you watched baker years Skaro eps, the Skaron's bread all humanity out of the daleks, why would they take so much effort to put it back in? oh well... I'm still a believer, and you're right, after these last 2 eps I'm truly excited to see what's next.

kahunablair

06-18-2007, 05:50 PM

I've really been blown away with how great this past few episodes have been.
Has everyone seen www.votesaxon.co.uk ? There is a video on that site that show's all the mentions of Saxon throughout the past few seasons. Really fun stuff.

Cybogoblin

06-18-2007, 11:10 PM

OK, for anyone that watched this ep I have to say that I am entirely annoyed that they brought the Master back. His character was entirely abused by the writers in the post baker years as something to throw out when they ran out of ideas.

Considering what we've seen so far, I think Russel T. Davis and crew will know better than to use The Master as some kind of filler when they run out of other ideas. I'm sure he'll be making reappearances, but probably not more than a couple of times per season. We're more likely to encounter him indirectly, like in The Lazarus Experiment, with him manipulating things behind the scenes. Well, at least I hope we do.

kahunablair

06-18-2007, 11:30 PM

Considering what we've seen so far, I think Russel T. Davis and crew will know better than to use The Master as some kind of filler when they run out of other ideas. I'm sure he'll be making reappearances, but probably not more than a couple of times per season. We're more likely to encounter him indirectly, like in The Lazarus Experiment, with him manipulating things behind the scenes. Well, at least I hope we do.

I'm hoping that's going to be the case Cybogoblin.
I just remembered how excited I was when I saw the lone Dalek a at the beginning of the reboot. Now the Dalek's seem to pop up quite a lot. I have a feeling the Master might do the same.

satori

06-19-2007, 12:43 AM

cyborgzombiedog

06-19-2007, 04:22 PM

I want one of these!

http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/rc/80f3/

masherscf

06-24-2007, 12:49 AM

Well, we're here at another series finale and the shit is hitting the fan again. I'm not sure about Simm as the psychotic asshole Master. Maybe we can end a series without someone dieing or getting sent to a parallel dimension.

jasonb

06-24-2007, 07:19 PM

So this truely is the end of Doctor who, or do they call the "series" finale the end of the season. Considering that this is technically "series 3". Ive never understood that whole thing. I pray that its just a season finale and not the end of the entire series. David Tennant as the Doctor is just constantly entertaining.

Godlesswanderer

06-24-2007, 07:47 PM

Don't worry jasonb, series finale means season finale. According to Wikipedia, a fourth series has been commissioned which will air in 2008.

wideawakewesley

06-24-2007, 09:37 PM

Yep, in the UK we refer to seasons as series.

Wes

masherscf

06-24-2007, 10:01 PM

Sorry, for all TV series that are produced for TV in the UK, I use the British terminology. I find it is much less confusing than confusing than doing the conversion.

Although, for TV series like ROME that are produced for both countries I use the term "season".

Ironically, the Sci-fi channel often used the word "season" in it's classical sense. Therefore, we often got a "season finale" that was in the middle of a particular run. The finale was just at the end of summer.

In any case, this is the end of series three of the revived Doctor Who.

sennima

06-25-2007, 01:16 AM

I read that Torchwood would not be picked up by the SCI-FI Channel. But would air on the BBC America instead. I agree with a earlier post, America is not ready for the gay lead character or all the gay material sprinkled through out.....

I really enjoyed it by the way.

kahunablair

06-25-2007, 02:07 AM

....I agree with a earlier post, America is not ready for the gay lead character or all the gay material sprinkled through out.....

Really?
Wasn't Will & Grace on for 12 seasons?

masherscf

06-25-2007, 02:35 AM

Really?
Wasn't Will & Grace on for 12 seasons?

The homosexuality in shows like "Ellen" and "Will and Grace" was a joke. It's okay to be gay because being gay is funny...right?

Captain Jack's sexuality is unapologizing and serious. Captain Jack is not a fashion consultant or a hair dresser. He's an action hero and a damn great one. Once more, you can't blame it on Jack being British because he's 100% American. The fact that he likes to snog men doesn't fit into the normal macho American paradigm.

kahunablair

06-25-2007, 05:51 PM

The homosexuality in shows like "Ellen" and "Will and Grace" was a joke. It's okay to be gay because being gay is funny...right?

Captain Jack's sexuality is unapologizing and serious. Captain Jack is not a fashion consultant or a hair dresser. He's an action hero and a damn great one. Once more, you can't blame it on Jack being British because he's 100% American. The fact that he likes to snog men doesn't fit into the normal macho American paradigm.

I get what your saying about the other shows using a lot of the Gay stuff as jokes, but you really think it will be that big of a deal?

Look, Torchwood is primarily a show for those of us that like Sci-fi. It's not going to have rednecks or hillbillies rushing home to throw on their BBC America. It's been my experience that the majority of people that would actually watch Torchwood, aren't going to be the racist/close-minded types.
I'm not saying that Torchwood will burn up the Neilsons, but I really doubt they expect it to anyway.

masherscf

06-25-2007, 07:08 PM

.It's been my experience that the majority of people that would actually watch Torchwood, aren't going to be the racist/close-minded types.
I'm not saying that Torchwood will burn up the Neilsons, but I really doubt they expect it to anyway.

I quite agree with you. However, Sci-fi probably doesn't makes money based on ratings. I think most of their revenues are flat. This is one reason why they seem to keep canceling popular shows that grow to large.

However, I don't think it's closed minded viewers that will be the issue. I think it's the close minded programming staff not wanting to venture anyplace too sexy.

kahunablair

06-25-2007, 07:46 PM

So the main issue is wether or not we're going to see, and please pardon the term, Man on Man action?
In that case, I can see that they wouldn't put that aspect on air here.

tokenuser

06-25-2007, 08:26 PM

So the main issue is wether or not we're going to see, and please pardon the term, Man on Man action?
In that case, I can see that they wouldn't put that aspect on air here.Last season of Torchwood, there was some implied action, but nothing beyond a same gender/species kiss. Its not overt, but its definately more in your face than Will & Grace or Queer Eye, but for some reason the US censors seem to have a bigger problem with tits and arse than with rape and murder, so networks shy away from anything that could possibly offend the "Families Against Sex and Cheap Inuendo Television" movement. The FASCISTs are the ones that complain to the FCC about naughty words on TV, or an exposed bum on basic cable. The FASCISTs are perceived (because they are vocal) to be a group that would harm a network by boycotting advertisers and skewing ratings.

Reality is, they are 5 people sitting in trailer parks around the country with nothing better to do than that submit the same crap complaints over and over again. The only people whose business they are likely to affect by a boycott are Wal*Mart - because who is going to buy a 5g jar of pickles if its not the FASCISTs?

masherscf

06-25-2007, 09:39 PM

Last season of Torchwood, there was some implied action, but nothing beyond a same gender/species kiss. Its not overt, but its definately more in your face than Will & Grace or Queer Eye,

It's not just the homosexuality that won't be accepted. It's that fact that Jack is not effeminate.

I have yet to see a character or a personality on non-pay American TV where the homosexuality isn't qualified by a non-threatening effeminate posture. Something like Robin Williams and Nathan Lane in "The Bird Cage" is the standard gay male. The creators of "South Park" pegged it with Big Gay Al.

Jack is a 100% American man. Jack is John Wayne. You want Jack to save your ass in combat. It doesn't matter what he might be saving it for.

Knight42

06-25-2007, 10:27 PM

Just started watching an old Tom Baker episode 'City of Death' on Netflix - Watch It Now service. It's fun to go back and remember how cool Tom Baker was and why he is the best Doctor ever! Oooh, and Romana, I forgot how much I loved her as a teenager! I made it about 1/2 way through at lunch, will probably watch the other 1/2 tomorrow.

I remember back to actually participating in a 'Save Doctor Who' campaign for PBS. Yep, as a young teenager I manned the phones and everything! Went to plenty of Who conventions, have autographs from Jon Pertwee, Peter Davidson and Colin Baker!

Knight42

kahunablair

06-26-2007, 04:17 PM

It's not just the homosexuality that won't be accepted. It's that fact that Jack is not effeminate.

I have yet to see a character or a personality on non-pay American TV where the homosexuality isn't qualified by a non-threatening effeminate posture. Something like Robin Williams and Nathan Lane in "The Bird Cage" is the standard gay male. The creators of "South Park" pegged it with Big Gay Al.

Jack is a 100% American man. Jack is John Wayne. You want Jack to save your ass in combat. It doesn't matter what he might be saving it for.

Ok, I see your point now. It's not so much the fact that there are gay lead characters, it's the way in which they are potrayed.

But I still doubt that the fact that a vast majority of Americans won't watch this show is because of Captain Jack. It will be because it's a Sci-Fi show that is a spin-off of Doctor Who, that is only being aired on BBC America.

djhyjak

06-27-2007, 06:18 AM

masherscf

06-27-2007, 02:33 PM

I think people underestimate the viewing audience, they would still watch the show even though the lead character is BI sexual hell actually the whole cast is bi sexual and that would drive controversy that could hurt the show by drawing in a flood of viewers for the start that all leave when the cotroversy dies down. lMaking it seem as though the show cant hold an audience.

I agree so much with you. However, this argument won't sway Sci-fi programmers who have never had any respect for their audiences. They'll fear moral "majority" backlash and just avoid it.

It's not a problem with the people watching.

wideawakewesley

07-04-2007, 09:03 AM

Catherine Tate has been confirmed as David Tennant's new companion in the next series of Doctor Who.

The comedian will reprise her role as Donna, who featured in the most recent Christmas special, 'The Runaway Bride', for the full thirteen-episode run of series four. As previously reported, Freema Agyeman will return to the show mid-way through the series, which begins filming this month for broadcast from next Easter.

"Catherine was an absolute star in The Runaway Bride and we are delighted that one of Britain's greatest talents has agreed to join us for the fourth series," said exec producer Russell T Davies. "Viewers can expect more ambitious storylines and a whole host of guest stars in 2008."

Tate added: "I am delighted to be returning to Doctor Who. I had a blast last Christmas and look forward to travelling again through time and space with that nice man from Gallifrey.

The news follows confirmation that Kylie Minogue will guest star in this year's Christmas special, 'Voyage of the Damned'.

Double urgh...

mynameiscal

07-04-2007, 10:13 AM

Oh dear. Catherine Tate?

Not quite as glamorous as Billie Piper; or even the new one, Freema Agyeman, who was hot in a grumpy kind of way..

beetlejuice101

07-04-2007, 10:31 AM

I can't say I am a fan of Catherine Tate, never really enjoyed her shows... most of the sketches where just constant catch phrases that did my nut in... some where ok but not really my type of comedy.

I didn't think she worked well in the 2nd Christmas Special either, the 1st Christmas Special is far superior. It's ok to have the occassional guest star role or cameo, but for a whole 4th season? Mmmmm I'll see.

Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6267680.stm

mynameiscal

07-04-2007, 10:38 AM

By the way BeetleJuice I love your avatar. Guy Goma is the world's biggest legend, and that video clip always makes me laugh!

halden

07-04-2007, 01:26 PM

I quite enjoyed Catherine and her interaction with the Doctor in the Runaway Bride, not to fear as Freema (Martha Jones) will join them mid-season.

How about the Finale of Series 3?? WOW!

mynameiscal

07-04-2007, 03:44 PM

How about the Finale of Series 3?? WOW!

I know! They really camped it up as far as they could, and it ended up being great

Cybogoblin

07-04-2007, 03:57 PM

Double urgh...

Actually, it's not so bad...

Now they have a legitimate reason to have the Doctor's companion killed off in the last episode by Daleks, Cybermen and whatever other monsters that can come up with in some kind of all-on-one melee. Or at least a LOT of people are hoping.

djhyjak

07-04-2007, 06:56 PM

Martha is gonna join Torchwood for season 2 and rejoin the Doctor in the middle of 4th season.

nytsua

07-04-2007, 07:40 PM

Martha is gonna join Torchwood for season 2 and rejoin the Doctor in the middle of 4th season.

Is that speculation or something you know? Any dates for Torchwood return?

I liked the season finale of Doctor Who but I'm still not quite sure about Catherine Tate. I was so happy that she wasn't staying around after her 2 episodes that I'm kind of bummed that she's the new companion. Hopefully it'll be better than I'm expecting.

mynameiscal

07-04-2007, 07:58 PM

The BBC announced that Martha would definitely be back in the 4th series

JohnnySwift

07-05-2007, 12:43 AM

Not really impressed with this news. Wasn't really a fan of that character, to be honest.

Although - we'll see. Each time they make a cast change I'm always skeptical - but it always turns out great. (Although I wish Rose was still around)

I kind of wanted a male companion for the Doctor. I don't want another female companion falling in love with him again. They need some kind of new dynamic between the Doctor and his "friend".

djhyjak

07-05-2007, 02:10 AM

Is that speculation or something you know? Any dates for Torchwood return?

I liked the season finale of Doctor Who but I'm still not quite sure about Catherine Tate. I was so happy that she wasn't staying around after her 2 episodes that I'm kind of bummed that she's the new companion. Hopefully it'll be better than I'm expecting.

Its something i know for sure. http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2007/07_july/02/who.shtml

wideawakewesley

07-05-2007, 07:36 AM

My wife has sworn off Dr. Who now that Catherine Tate has been announced as the new companion. In her words, "Everytime I look at her I want to smash her face in".

Wes

Cybogoblin

07-05-2007, 09:33 AM

One thing to note with Martha appearing in Torchwood - she will only actually be appearing in 3-4 episodes, not the entire series.

wideawakewesley

07-05-2007, 01:23 PM

One thing to note with Martha appearing in Torchwood - she will only actually be appearing in 3-4 episodes, not the entire series.

Phew!

Although she will be a better fit in the Torchwood universe I think.

Wes

Cybogoblin

07-05-2007, 01:40 PM

Although she will be a better fit in the Torchwood universe I think.

Really? I didn't realise she was bi.

Yeah, I went there :P

In other Who news, Weta has released a rather interesting teaser (http://www.wetanz.com/holics/teaser.php) on their Collectibles website.

halden

07-05-2007, 02:38 PM

I think I need new pants.

Stopikingonme

07-07-2007, 03:59 AM

Finally, the BBC season has FINALLY started airing in the US. I saw the second half of the new season with.......wait.....wtf?......Catherine Tate? Catherine Tate from the Catherine Tate show??? (Very funny I must admit) But I have to pull a line from Arrested Development........."Her?"

Oh, thank God, she's not the new companions (you cheeky bast-ads)

I know she is some way hot black chick...so I will wait and see....even though the next post will give me the name...IMDB page.....and life story of the new companion anyway....

sennima

07-21-2007, 05:40 PM

I have been gone a while. But one final thought on Torchwood.....has to show on BBC America, Sci-Fi channel is owned by NBC, owned by UNiversal and GE. They gotta think of the people in middle america, gotta kepp them happy. Is gay that scary?

Cybogoblin

07-22-2007, 10:31 AM

Finally, the BBC season has FINALLY started airing in the US...

Okay, here it is...

The new companions name is Martha. As for the rest of the things I could tell you about what is planned for Season 4 and Season 2 of Torchwood, I'll leave that for now... unless people want some definate spoilers.

Spite

07-22-2007, 10:55 AM

Cathrine Tate is the least funny comedian I've ever seen shes totally gonna murder the show

Stopikingonme

07-22-2007, 07:30 PM

Cybogoblin

07-22-2007, 10:15 PM

DJ, Since in the States we just finished the 3rd or 4th episode of season 12 and you seem to have the inside skinny on things will David Tennant be playing the Doctor for season 13? Or will he be replaced....I mean regenerated....by someone else?

I'm guessing you're meaning Seasons 3 and 4 respectively, yes?

Seeing as you can find out any of this information by going to the BBC's official site, here it is...

OMG SPOILERS (kinda)

At the end of Season 3 the Doctor does not regenerate, but Martha does go back to her family. This means that Tennant is around for Season 4 (and Martha will be back... eventually). The new companion will be Catherine Tate's character from The Runaway Bride, but won't be joining the show until the first episode of the 4th season, leaving the Doctor alone for the Christmas Special. Kylie Minogue will be guest starring in the Christmas Special.

Stopikingonme

07-23-2007, 03:03 AM

I'm guessing you're meaning Seasons 3 and 4 respectively, yes?

Seeing as you can find out any of this information by going to the BBC's official site, here it is...

OMG SPOILERS (kinda)

At the end of Season 3 the Doctor does not regenerate, but Martha does go back to her family. This means that Tennant is around for Season 4 (and Martha will be back... eventually). The new companion will be Catherine Tate's character from The Runaway Bride, but won't be joining the show until the first episode of the 4th season, leaving the Doctor alone for the Christmas Special. Kylie Minogue will be guest starring in the Christmas Special.

Yea, sorry I can't count....no really it was an industrial accid....well nevermind. Hang on a sec, I'll BRB, I have to bang my head against the wall for an hour.......

......OK I'm back, what the frack?? Freakin' Catherine Tate? Your kidding?!?! This is some sort of sick joke, right? I mean I love The Catherine Tate Show, but it's no Little Britain, and.....again I have to steal the line from Arrested Develpment and say, "Her?"

http://www.catherinetate.co.uk/images/lauren.jpg

Cybogoblin

07-23-2007, 03:29 AM

I'm not 100% sure, but I think Tate is the new 'in thing' in the UK, hence her appearance in Doctor Who. Still, now fans will have a companion they can despise more than Billie Piper :p

Stopikingonme

07-23-2007, 04:29 PM

I'm not 100% sure, but I think Tate is the new 'in thing' in the UK, hence her appearance in Doctor Who. Still, now fans will have a companion they can despise more than Billie Piper :p

Oh snap, no he didn't!! He did!! Take that Billie, he he.

JohnnySwift

07-23-2007, 07:19 PM

Not a fan of this Tate person. Her character annoyed me in the last Christmas special.

I wanted that Sparrow girl to be his new companion. The one in the angel statue episode. I think she would be a lot better than Tate.

Oh well.

It would also be cool to see a guy companion or androidish type thing. Like K-9.

As for the Rose bashing. DAMN YOU! I liked her. More than Martha. Martha is/was cool and all - but she was no Rose.

tokenuser

07-23-2007, 08:12 PM

I like Martha as a character as much as I liked Rose - particularly in the last 5 episodes of the season.

As for Catherine Tate - meh. She was abrassive. Not all companions have to be likeable. I think she will piss the Doctor off, which is something other companions have been unable to do. Nah. She'll be awright for a quickie - just dont brag about her to your mates the next day.

Spite

07-23-2007, 08:50 PM

Stopikingonme

07-23-2007, 08:56 PM

She'll just say "am i bovvered" and the Dr will get pissed of and slap her

LMAO!!! I really do enjoy her show, it's pretty funny. Not as funny as Spoons or Littlen Britain
http://www.bwire.co.uk/cms/site/images/ents_lb_large.jpg

masherscf

07-23-2007, 08:56 PM

tokenuser

07-23-2007, 09:20 PM

Sure, a few companions have been downright evil assholes.But the Doctor has been very British about their assholiness, and would sit down with them to tea and crumpets.

Tate will just piss him off. I can't wait for Martha to rejoin the Doctor and just ***** slap her from hear to eternity (because, with the TARDIS, you just know she could).

Although - the good Doctor has never had a companion that could comfort him through the darkness of space quite as much as Catherine Tate ...

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/05_02/ctateDM2005_468x577.jpg

Cybogoblin

07-29-2007, 09:25 AM

Seeing as Comic-Con is now in full swing, Weta are now starting to release the four collectible Doctor Who miniatues they'll be putting on sale in the near future.

The first two have been put up on their website: the Dalek from "Dalek" (http://www.wetanz.com/doctor_who/index.php?itemid=434&catid=15) and the Cybercontroller from "Age of Steel" (http://www.wetanz.com/doctor_who/) (tho it looks a little unfinished).

As they've mentioned the minitaures will cover both the old and new series, I guess the final two will be the Tardis and something from the original series.

tokenuser

07-31-2007, 04:01 PM

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,5591335,00.jpg

Kylie Minogue - the guest "companion" from 2007 Christmas Special. I wish SHE could be the short term companion for season 4 rather than Catherine Tate.

The Doctor has always had companions form different time periods, so a waitress from Victorian England rescued from the Titanic isn't such a stretch.

satori

07-31-2007, 05:57 PM

Although - the good Doctor has never had a companion that could comfort him through the darkness of space quite as much as Catherine Tate ...

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/05_02/ctateDM2005_468x577.jpg

This pic makes her look like a bloke with a boob job.

tokenuser

07-31-2007, 06:32 PM

I think thats a pretty fair assessment anyway.

BUT what a magnificent boob job it is :)

wideawakewesley

08-07-2007, 09:51 AM

Latest rumours/news:

Sir Ben Kingsley is reportedly close to signing up to playing classic Doctor Who villain Davros - creator of the Daleks - in the next season of the cult show.

An insider told The Sun: "Ben’s agent has been in talks for a while now and he’s very keen to play the part of Davros. A deal will be signed any day now."

Kingsley, best known for his Oscar-winning portrayal of Mahatma Gandhi in the 1982 film, is no stranger to playing ruthless villains as he portrayed The Hood in the recent Thunderbirds film. He was also Oscar nominated for his portrayal of the malevolent gangster Don Logan in the 2000 film Sexy Beast.

The character of Davros was first introduced in the 1975 story 'Genesis of the Daleks' as the evil Kaled geneticist who masterminded the creation of the Daleks in a bid to exterminate the rival Thal race on Skaro. He was last seen in the 1988 story 'Remembrance of the Daleks', where he managed to flee from the Dalek mothership in an escape pod moments before it was destroyed.

Also, rumour has it that Kenneth Branagh is desperate for a role in Dr. Who. Both of those came from The Sun newspaper, so they're probably both a load of tosh.

Wes

wideawakewesley

08-30-2007, 02:52 PM

Bloody hell, everyone want to be in Dr. Who right now...here's the latest rumour, which would be incredibly cool if true!

David Bowie will appear as an "evil alien abductor" in a two-part Doctor Who special, the Sun reports.

Bowie, 60, has reportedly agreed to "cross swords" with the Time Lord after being approached by Who chiefs impressed with his 2006 outing as an inventor in The Prestige. There are no details of the storyline, apart from the suggestion that Bowie's character will get on the wrong side of the good Doctor by kidnapping writer Agatha Christie.

The singer's spokesman denied he was set to hit the small screen next year, but a Doctor Who insider said: "Bowie said he'd be interested as long as he's not subjected to hours of disfiguring make-up."

Patch

08-30-2007, 03:29 PM

I don't believe anything from the Sun. Tho. I do love David Bowie's acting and think he would be great as a Doctor Who villain. I mean, if David Bowie wants something. He gets it. I mean, come on. He is Ziggy Stardust!

I know I'm coming into this thread late. So hopefully I can catch up. As for the companion discussion above. I still miss Rose. She was the absolute best companion to me. I think her teamed up with Tom Baker would have made for the best Doctor Who. Maybe... Okay. Probably not.

wideawakewesley

08-30-2007, 03:41 PM

I agree about The Sun comment, but I couldn't resist posting as I've been in love with Bowie as an actor ever since I first saw Labyrinth back in the day.

Patch

08-30-2007, 03:46 PM

Yeah. He was great in Labyrinth. Did you know that the hand doing the contact juggling (spinning the three balls around) wasn't actually his hand!

That movie freaked me the **** out when I was a kid tho.

kahunablair

08-30-2007, 08:10 PM

Minouge is going to be awesome.
Bowie is going to be the next level above awesome.
Catherine Tate annoys me to no end.

I'm extremely torn on this season....

tokenuser

08-30-2007, 08:16 PM

Minouge is going to be awesome.
Bowie is going to be the next level above awesome.
Catherine Tate annoys me to no end.

I'm extremely torn on this season....I saw some of the promo shots of Minogue in a period Victorian waitress outfit (see above for an example). She fits the part beautifully.

Pity she doesn't need to play the part of an Agent Provocateur - she already has the outfits for that role.

ngDIOWYmmvo
*Barely Safe For Work

Go Budgie Go!

wideawakewesley

09-03-2007, 03:26 PM

Great news for Dr. Who fans!

Doctor Who will remain on air until at least 2010, the BBC has announced.

The fourth series - currently being filmed in Cardiff - will air in Spring 2008, following this year's Christmas special, which guest stars Kylie Minogue as a waitress on board the Titanic.

Another Christmas special is planned for 2008, but there will be no full series in 2009. Instead three specials are planned for broadcast throughout 2009, with both David Tennant and lead writer Russell T Davies confirmed for both. A full-length, fifth series will air in 2010.

"Doctor Who is one of the BBC's best loved and most successful dramas," said Jane Tranter, controller of BBC Fiction. "Its journey over the past three series has been one of the most ambitious and exciting that we have had, and I'm delighted to be able to confirm not only three exciting specials for 2009, but a fifth series in 2010."

satori

09-03-2007, 06:06 PM

well... not so great news, they're taking a one year hiatus so 2009 will be fairly quiet:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6976178.stm

wideawakewesley

09-03-2007, 07:42 PM

tbh, it's probably good news as I'd imagine that Russel Davies and David Tennant would have left Dr. Who if they couldn't have had some time to persue other projects (which I'm sure is the reason for this).

wideawakewesley

09-09-2007, 11:45 PM

Urgh, now this is a horrible rumour...

Ladbrokes has made Daniel Radcliffe its favourite to be the next Dr Who.

The bookmaker is offering odds of 3-1 on the Harry Potter actor taking over from David Tennant. Other favourites include James Nesbitt at 5-1, Damian Lewis at 6-1 and, at 8-1, Rhys Ifans.

Radcliffe, currently 18, would be the youngest ever Doctor. But a source commented: "Daniel would be fantastic. It is very early days but everyone can imagine him in the role.

"He would add a new dimension for all the young fans."

Programme maker BBC Wales declined to comment.

It has been rumoured that current actor Tennant may leave the role for good in two years' time. However, he has recently committed to the whole of the next series, airing from next year, plus three specials, due to air in 2009.

Patch

09-10-2007, 12:04 AM

Urgh, now this is a horrible rumour...

I F***ing hate you just for posting that... I don't want to know that. Even if its not true, I don't want to know that people are even saying it! If Harry Potter becomes the next Doctor I'll just be watching Tom Baker until Harry dies off and we get someone better...

Carrot Top would be a better Doctor then Harry Potter...

satori

09-10-2007, 08:43 AM

I want Ewan McGregor as the doctor... I mean the guy does nothing but ride a bike around these days... surely he could spare some time to rock the role.

wideawakewesley

09-10-2007, 08:47 AM

I wouldn't mind seeing Kenneth Branagh in the role, but I think after seeing Jekyll, my first choice would be James Nesbitt, although I think he may make a better Master than Doctor. I just pray we never have a woman doctor, just for the sake of being PC. A non-white Doctor would be fine, but I'd prefer it if he stayed male.

And if we ever have a non-British actor playing the Doctor, please god give us Johnny Depp!

Wes

TNVWBOY

09-10-2007, 01:36 PM

And if we ever have a non-British actor playing the Doctor, please god give us Johnny Depp!

Whoa...The Doctor was always a bit eccentric but...whoa!

MasterXell

09-12-2007, 02:16 AM

As you may know, The inaugural episode of the third series of the revived Doctor Who saga was aired on BBC last night.

I won't spoil it for anyone. But, I'm anxious to start a dialog about his new assistant , Martha Jones.

Any takers....
Hmm, I cant believe I missed this thread.

I didn't think I would like Dr Who, a friend of mine was always talking about it, and I thought it sounded pretty dumb. Well I started watching a few episodes (Back when it was still Chris as the Doctor) and I loved it, I thought that even though the show didnt really have all that fantastic graphics or special effects, it was just really fun to watch an the story was actually pretty decent. I think Dr Who is a fantastic show, and it sucks to hear that it will be taking a break till 2009. But I think Martha jones is fantastic, and David TEnnat is a FREAKING Awesome DR!!!

satori

09-12-2007, 06:17 AM

And if we ever have a non-British actor playing the Doctor, please god give us Johnny Depp!

Wes

no, no, no... if they put Johnny Depp in there I'd insist that they made him english. Have you seen From Hell? I'd be laughing all the way through as he butchered the accent.

wideawakewesley

10-02-2007, 01:20 PM

Just a reminder to folks that The Sarah Jane Adventures is now airing in the UK and is no doubt available on various torrent sites.

Patch

10-02-2007, 02:00 PM

Just a reminder to folks that The Sarah Jane Adventures is now airing in the UK and is no doubt available on various torrent sites.
You have to be kidding me. They made a Sarah Jane spin off? I can't stand Elisabeth Sladen with my absolute favorite Doctor. How am I supposed to handle her without Tom Baker?

scienceking

10-02-2007, 02:14 PM

Doctor Who is where its at. I've seen all of the series from the 4th Doctor onward, and from what I can tell it will be hard to see much more considering the quality of some of whats out there from before that era. Still, probably the best Sci Fi, and also one that is entertaining and adventurous without having to resort to some sort of a militaristic slant.

wideawakewesley

10-02-2007, 03:13 PM

You have to be kidding me. They made a Sarah Jane spin off? I can't stand Elisabeth Sladen with my absolute favorite Doctor. How am I supposed to handle her without Tom Baker?

Yep they have, but the spin-off is purely aimed at the children's market and I believe K9 also features in it. Did you also know there's an animated episode of Dr. Who featuring David Tennant's Doctor?

Wes

Patch

10-02-2007, 03:15 PM

Yep they have, but the spin-off is purely aimed at the children's market and I believe K9 also features in it.

Wes

Screw that! If they want to get kids into the Doctor Who universe. They need to just re-air the Tom Baker serial. My five year old niece loves it!

Stopikingonme

10-02-2007, 05:45 PM

I just saw the first episode of the season finale. Then it occured to me...Tool has been brainwashed!!! The drums the drums!! Can you hear it?!?!
wS7CZIJVxFY

If the Rev3 plug in doesn't work here is the link:
Lateralus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wS7CZIJVxFY)

Mier

10-02-2007, 07:00 PM

They need to do an Adrick type. A guy who's only a friend, since we don't need anymore gay subplots, that goes on adventures. It could even be a mentor type relation.

kahunablair

10-02-2007, 07:12 PM

wideawakewesley

10-02-2007, 10:59 PM

I didn't know they made a cartoon Who. How is it?

Pretty good actually, they only did one episode and it was originally aired in 5 minute chunks, but they recently showed it in the UK in it's entirety. Also features Anthony Stewart Head as the bad guy.

It's called Dr. Who and the Infinite Quest.

Wes

TNVWBOY

10-06-2007, 02:22 PM

Finally, here in the US anyway, the end of Season 3. The revelation of Captain Jack's "other" name was mind blowing. My immediate response was, "Phuckin' A!"

Awesome! I definitely cannot wait for season 2 of Torchwood now, to see how Martha plays into that plot line.

wideawakewesley

11-27-2007, 07:55 PM

Billie Piper will be reprising her role as companion Rose Tyler in the upcoming season of Doctor Who.

According to a report in the Daily Mirror, today confirmed by the BBC, Piper will appear in at least three episodes towards the conclusion of the fourth season, which is currently being filmed in Cardiff. The 25-year-old actress will star alongside Catherine Tate's Donna Noble, and the returning Freema Agyeman as Martha Jones.

Since leaving the hit time-travelling show in 2006, following two hugely successful seasons and numerous awards, Piper has starred in ITV2's Secret Diary Of A Call Girl and as Philip Pullman's heroine Sally Lockhart in a BBC adaptation of The Ruby In The Smoke.

Rose Tyler returns!

kahunablair

11-27-2007, 08:38 PM

Rose Tyler returns!

Now that is some pretty nifty news! Good find, Wes!

icapants

11-27-2007, 10:08 PM

I don't know how I feel about Rose returning. I like Rose a lot, but considering how Doomsday ended (and the fact that I cried like a little tiny baby), it feels way way to soon to bring her back.

ramshaw

11-28-2007, 11:41 AM

Clicky (http://uk.tv.ign.com/articles/837/837942p1.html)

Ookla

11-28-2007, 12:50 PM

Score!! I have been afraid that they would give Rose a spin off series. Something close to an alternate Torchwood but as crappy as Sarah Jane Adventures.

Yay Rose!

masherscf

11-28-2007, 02:02 PM

I merged because there was already an existing thread already.

continue.

mittop

11-28-2007, 05:20 PM

Where's the nine foot scarf? Just aint the same since the early 70s. Was into Space:1999 at the time anyway...

So very old school. I am right there with you. I think the "Eagle" from Space 1999 was my earliest toy memory.

mittop

11-28-2007, 05:23 PM

Yep they have, but the spin-off is purely aimed at the children's market and I believe K9 also features in it. Did you also know there's an animated episode of Dr. Who featuring David Tennant's Doctor?

Wes

No K9, there were some sort of rights issues if I recall correctly. There is a K9 cartoon or something if I understand correctly. But you are right on about the Sarah Jane being targeted towards kids.

tokenuser

12-27-2007, 05:17 PM

Doctor Who Christmas Special 2007 is available for those that know where to look.

It was watched by an estimated 12.2M people in the UK when it was broadcast.

A record 12.2 million people in the UK tuned in to what is being hailed as the greatest Dr Who episode of all time, with the BBC prompted to already show a rerun.

Article on the show (http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22977010-2,00.html) - *WARNING: Contains Spoilers*

mooking

12-27-2007, 05:30 PM

Dude, I torrented it on sunday morning in about 15 minutes. It was buring a DVD for it that took an hour. I think the BBC has some sort of deal with Azureus to offer their shows online.

If your using a bt client for downloading Doctor Who's Christmas ep. your a pirate.

satori

12-27-2007, 05:31 PM

If your using a bt client for downloading Doctor Who you are a pirate.

fixed, arrrrr!

wideawakewesley

04-01-2008, 12:43 AM

Just a reminder that Dr. Who returns to UK screens on Saturday at 6:20pm.

Wes

masherscf

04-01-2008, 12:51 AM

If your using a bt client for downloading Doctor Who's Christmas ep. your a pirate.

Arrr, avast me haerties... yo ho!

ZombiErin

04-07-2008, 03:49 AM

WELL!?!?
No one has anything to say about the first episode of the new season?

crater

04-07-2008, 04:49 AM

WELL!?!?
No one has anything to say about the first episode of the new season?

I loved it. I'd just finished up Torchwood season 2 and BAM Doctor Who season 4 saves the day from boredom. Torrented it when i got home from work today.

nshady

04-07-2008, 11:14 AM

I'm tempted to torrent but I'm not SUPER craving it like I was craving Lost, so I think I'll hold on a bit and let the temptation build.

masherscf

04-07-2008, 11:45 AM

We've decided to wait until it airs in the states on SciFi. It's only another week or two.

giggleloop

04-07-2008, 01:23 PM

It was a bit of an odd episode - but I liked it. I'm trying desperately to avoid getting spoiled for any of it - although it's kind of difficult since G4 is running casting spoilers all the damn time in the Feed ticker at the bottom of the screen while I'm watching AotS, grrrr!

jsatt

04-07-2008, 02:14 PM

Very strange episode indeed, but awesome none the less. And WTF, the cameo/surprise/foreshadowing (whichever it is) at the end was shocking.

KilroyPerrywinkle

04-07-2008, 03:28 PM

I liked it... I was worried they were going to fall into the rut of focusing on Catherine Tate's character too much. Her longing to travel with Doctor and such. But it was a small B story and the A was so different - so fascinating I barely noticed it. Plus the moment the Doctor and her meet is so chuckle inducing...

4 out 5.

Very nice.

wideawakewesley

04-08-2008, 01:29 PM

Still not convinced by Catherine Tate's performance, but loved the episode and the character, it's just her I'm having a hard time getting passed. As my wife puts it, "She just has a face I want to smack". How cute were those aliens though and the scene behind the two windows was hilarious!

Wes

wideawakewesley

04-08-2008, 11:07 PM

Best-selling writer Professor Richard Dawkins will appear in the current series of Doctor Who as himself, according to reports.

Showrunner Russell T Davies revealed the casting of the popular author and biologist to The Independent and spoke of the impact of Dawkins's presence during filming. "People were falling at his feet," said Davies. "We've had Kylie Minogue on that set, but it was Dawkins people were worshipping. He has brought atheism proudly out of the closet!"

Dawkins, whose non-fiction books include The Selfish Gene, lived up to his eccentric persona according to Davies: "He was as mad and as barking as you'd want him to be." Dawkins is also married to Lalla Ward, who played the second incarnation of companion Romana in the classic series of Doctor Who and starred opposite her former husband Tom Baker.

This should be fun...

Foxhound362

04-09-2008, 09:17 AM

satori

04-09-2008, 10:01 AM

but I just had to jump in here and say "me too!". i love Dr. Who! i've been watching it when it was running since the late 70's. i kid you not. in fact i just found out that a relative of mine was actually in an episode in the sixties. that just blew my mind. she had a bit part, but still. wow.

Seriously? In the 60s? a lot of those old eps are gone forever. Some kind screw up with the back ups or something. All that exists are the scripts and photos. Was she the one wearing the card board box on her head? I still have all my issues of Doctor Who Weekly from 1980 with a ton of photos and all sorts of great Doctor Who Comics. They're worth bugger all, but there's no way I'd sell them anyway.

Foxhound362

04-09-2008, 10:20 AM

Yeah i know about those "lost" episodes. i found the info on IMDB. i believe that it was a William Hartnell episode. season six, i think. i know that the BBC does have cast records for almost all the Dr. Who shows. Now if you think i'm making it up, well i don't care really. i just thought i'd share something "rad". And that i found out that i kinda had a connection to Dr.Who that i did'nt know about until just a few months ago. i did my research.

Cybogoblin

04-09-2008, 01:38 PM

Actually, a lot of the lost episodes were only missing their video. The BBC still have copies of the audio and shooting schedule (or something like that) so have started rebuilding the episodes using animated versions and the original sound. I saw an example of this done for one of the Second Doctor's Cybermen episodes, and it looked pretty good.

As for the new series. I loved the first episode, even Tate wasn't (as) annoying. I was a little concerned when I saw the monsters, and realised the woman was ex-Coronation Street, but I soon got over that. Can't wait for episode 2!

Oh, and the new BBC Doctor Who site rocks on toast! No more tiny fuzzy videos, huzzah :D

giggleloop

04-14-2008, 02:29 PM

wideawakewesley

04-14-2008, 02:58 PM

So what'd you all think of episode 2? I just watched it yesterday morning and I LOVED it. My doubts about Donna as a Companion are gone - I think they'll be great together. It's great to see the Doctor with a companion that's a friend/sister figure, like Romana. :D

Donna is a great character, but Catherine Tate is the wrong person to be playing her. Another good episode though, this series has definitely started better than last, I just hope it manages to hit the heights of the last series.

Rokov

04-14-2008, 06:49 PM

Episode 2 was ok. I'm starting to like Catherine Tate as Donna, but it seems to me like the scripts are going in a bit of a campy direction in this series, perhaps to play to her strengths.

TNVWBOY

04-14-2008, 08:43 PM

I've not seen any of season 2 yet (when will it be airing on SciFi?) but Catherine Tate? "The Bride"?? Is she going to be the new 'companion'?? If that's the case, in the words of Scott Bakula, "Oh boy."

jdogg2289

04-14-2008, 09:07 PM

The Christmas special airs this Friday, episode 1 next friday.

Props to skiffy for getting it so quickly.

Episode 2 was poor story-wise, but I'm indifferent about Donna.

KilroyPerrywinkle

04-14-2008, 09:51 PM

So what'd you all think of episode 2? I just watched it yesterday morning and I LOVED it. My doubts about Donna as a Companion are gone - I think they'll be great together. It's great to see the Doctor with a companion that's a friend/sister figure, like Romana. :D

I liked it... the - "What if I speak actual Latin while the TARDIS is translating everything I say into Latin?" - thing at the beginning was gold.

"What are ya? Celtish?"

"...well there ya go..."

Loved it.

lnknpk04

04-18-2008, 01:47 AM

Not sure how i feel about the bride. Kind of gets on my nerves a bit. Still love the Doctor though!

KilroyPerrywinkle

04-21-2008, 04:25 AM

Okay this week's show was soooo weak.

It was felt like such prattle. I mean I loved the Ood and all, but whoever thought THIS was a good back story for them... blah.

It was such a throw away episode....

Cirdan

04-21-2008, 09:30 AM

yeah the third episode of this season was just a little bit on the lacking side but still good none the less, altho during the episode did anyone catch the bit were the Doctor and Donna were talking about the missing bee's? I remember watching a promo that had a huge bee on it might be something there....Also I like Donna. Its a good change to have someone on the TARDIS that is not after a love relationship with the Doctor. I have high hopes for this season.

Rokov

04-21-2008, 09:38 AM

I loved this week's episode. It didn't have any of the campiness of the last few and I always like it when they bring back a previously introduced character (species) and explain their back story. It answered a lot of questions about the Ood and gave them a nice send off.

satori

04-21-2008, 03:36 PM

oh look, Catherine Tate's character was captured again... now there's a surprise. I'm not clear on what her real role is here. Is she supposed to be the every woman used as a device to bring the viewer closer to the story by experiencing the wonder with you? If so all I can thing is "Sorry, I'm not such a useless twat". but that's just me.

icapants

04-21-2008, 10:19 PM

They've mentioned the Bees going missing twice. It might be leading up to something, but maybe not.

Also, that thing in the trailer was a Wasp.

I've actually found all the stories so far to be a little lackluster, but I'm loving the Doctor/Donna dynamic for the most part. She calls him on things, which he needs. They're definitely reinforcing the whole "oh hay, he's an alien" thing.

wideawakewesley

04-22-2008, 09:09 AM

Still not liking Catherine Tate (but she's better than Freema) but the episode overall wasn't bad, had a few nice moments and the effects work was good, especially liked finding out more about the ood.

Cirdan

04-22-2008, 10:52 AM

yeah all in all not the worst episode so far, I have high hopes for the next one! altho I hope they don't do anything strange with Martha and Donna. I mean it rocked when Rose meet Sarah Jane but I don't want to see Martha get Jealous and make that a factor for the episode. So here's hoping!

Rokov

04-22-2008, 05:39 PM

Since Martha's now with UNIT and we've seen Rose, I have a feeling that they're going to put a twist on the old specials and do a 'Three Companions' episode.

Cirdan

04-23-2008, 02:22 AM

I wonder how they are going to explain roses return, Parallel Time Lords? maybe, or has Pete's Torchwood found a way to travel through the void and into the Doctor's world? any ideas?

wideawakewesley

04-23-2008, 08:32 AM

I wonder how they are going to explain roses return, Parallel Time Lords? maybe, or has Pete's Torchwood found a way to travel through the void and into the Doctor's world? any ideas?

I just assumed they'd go back to Earth prior to the Doctor's first meeting with Rose.

Wes

arylkin

04-26-2008, 01:54 AM

I just assumed they'd go back to Earth prior to the Doctor's first meeting with Rose.

Hmmm... I hadn't thought of that possibility, although it might make sense the most (and would go with the ongoing tragedy that follows the doctor- that when he finally finds Rose she doesn't know who he is).

Cirdan

04-26-2008, 04:12 AM

Hmmm... I hadn't thought of that possibility, although it might make sense the most (and would go with the ongoing tragedy that follows the doctor- that when he finally finds Rose she doesn't know who he is).

hmm where did you hear that? if thats true then we need to kick up the speculation up a notch....

Rokov

04-26-2008, 04:16 AM

Although, that doesn't explain why Rose disappeared as she walked away, as if going back to the other dimension.

KilroyPerrywinkle

04-26-2008, 08:28 AM

Rokov

04-26-2008, 08:31 AM

Evil robot Rose?

Did she have a goatee? (Evil Twin Rose...)

Come on... you know they're going to rehash the "she absorb the Tardis mojo it must be pulling her back to it.... " Or something like that...
Yeah, it'll probably be something like that. Come to think of it, she didn't quite seem herself. Maybe The Bad Wolf has returned.:D

Cirdan

04-26-2008, 09:19 PM

hmm all very interesting but, I've been entertaining the idea that maybe the Master in a previous time line has gotten a hold of rose and is using her to get to the doctor. Man they should have never killed off the Master, he rocked best villain ever!

arylkin

04-26-2008, 11:07 PM

Evil robot Rose?

Did she have a goatee? (Evil Twin Rose...)

Ha! ;)

Cirdan

04-27-2008, 01:48 AM

Any body seen the new episode? any thoughts? comments? I for one enjoyed this episode pretty good so far can't wait for the next one!

gobo

04-27-2008, 02:32 AM

I just saw it an really enjoyed it. I'm excited to see the conclusion next week.

Rokov

04-27-2008, 07:59 AM

Great episode, I always love it when they bring back the classic villains. I just wish I didn't have to wait til next week to see the rest. I really like what they've done with Martha. I kind of seems like they're setting her up for her own spin-off (I hope so) and I'm hesitant to admit it, but the more I see of Donna, the more she grows on me. It's nice to finally have a companion that doesn't have a schoolgirl crush on The Doctor. I'm glad that Catherine Tate is taking her in a different direction from her usual comedic schtick. I was worried that they were getting a bit too campy at the beginning of this series, but thankfully it looks like I was wrong.