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iSteve
04-21-2007, 10:05 PM
NEW JOE FRIDAYS WEEK 44 - 4/20/07 (http://www.newsarama.com/NewJoeFridays/NewJoeFridays44.html)
I actually meant to post that he said that Whedon and Cassaday's replacements on ASX would be announced at San Diego(which I'm told means whale's vagina)
iSteve
04-23-2007, 07:28 PM
Joe Quesada from New Joe Fridays: "The problem with The Defenders is that traditionally they’ve always been the second-string Avengers and now that we have two Avengers teams, we need to rethink the concept and rethink what the name means and why someone would use it. I’m sure somewhere down the road we’ll find it, but no luck yet."
Do you think of the Defenders as a "second-string Avengers"?
I for one would love to see a new Defenders title out. I also would like to see the Invaders brought back and reimaged.
http://www.newsarama.com/NewJoeFridays/NJF44art/DFNDRS001.jpg
alexg
04-23-2007, 07:32 PM
I don't know if they were a second string avengers, but given the current marvel landscape there really is no place for them. It seems the core members are all off doing their own things and it would take some real twists and turns to get them together as a team...
Btw--that Defenders Indefensible infuriated me for some reason. I thought it was just too insulting without being funny.
mikegraham6
04-23-2007, 07:40 PM
Btw--that Defenders Indefensible infuriated me for some reason. I thought it was just too insulting without being funny.
i agree that it was more insulting to the characters. not half as funny as formely known as the justice league
iSteve
04-23-2007, 07:44 PM
i agree that it was more insulting to the characters. not half as funny as formely known as the justice league
I thought it was good fun.
is there really room for a Defenders series again? It kind of feels like there isn't. There are 2 Avengers teams. The 50 Initiative teams. The Champions. The New Warriors. 38 X-Men teams.
etc and so forth ad nauseum
mikegraham6
04-23-2007, 07:49 PM
I thought it was good fun.
i just thought that in FKAJL, it was more about putting the character in a ridiculous situation and watching them react
while the defenders was more about making the characters themselves ridiculous (just compare the characterizations of both and you'll notice a difference)
iSteve
04-28-2007, 03:00 PM
New Joe Fridays Week 45 4/27/07 (http://www.newsarama.com/NewJoeFridays/NewJoeFridays45.html)
Since Quesada is ill this week, Newsarama talks to Ed Brubaker, Dan Slott, Greg Pak, Jeph Loeb, and J. Michael Straczynski. They talk about the creative summit that took place Wednesday and Thursday.
http://www.newsarama.com/NewJoeFridays/JoeQHeadshot.jpg
iSteve
05-05-2007, 12:41 AM
NEW JOE FRIDAYS WEEK 46 - 5/4/07 (http://www.newsarama.com/NewJoeFridays/NewJoeFridays46.html)
http://www.newsarama.com/NewJoeFridays/NJF46art/WolvCapBuck_t.jpg
this week's has a question from our very own jimski
(possibly - unconfirmed)
iSteve
05-05-2007, 12:56 AM
this week's has a question from our very own jimski
(possibly - unconfirmed)
Q: Jimski 04-27-2007 12:09 PM
I have a question that has driven me bug-nutty for a year now. Whenever a question is asked about the possibility of Wolverine or Spider-Man appearing in a MAX book, the answer is always the same: the "name" characters are "like crack for kids" and we don't want to put them in a story that would be inappropriate or damaging to young minds. If Jessica Jones wants to meet Spidey, Alias has to become The Pulse.
What, then, is the deal with Marvel Zombies - page after page of "name" heroes' animated corpses with flesh rotting off of their exposed bones, tearing into people with their teeth? Did I really see a statue of Spider-Zombie holding the body of his wife with a huge gash in her neck?? I'm a grown man, and that's profoundly disturbing. What's the official explanation for this apparent contradiction?
JQ: Jimski, in my world, there’s a big difference between a monster movie and a movie in which characters get to say #@$% and $#!@ and we get to see lots naughty, naked bits and stuff.
Same thing in a comic book.
paper
05-05-2007, 12:58 AM
You want to lie to kids about what zombies really do? What happens when they inevitably run into one?
darron
05-05-2007, 12:58 AM
I don't get Joe Q's reply.....that's like saying zombie movies don't feature cussing and nudity.
Since when?
paper
05-05-2007, 01:07 AM
He's taking a particularly American viewpoint that violence and gore are not nearly as offensive as sex and nudity, even profanity. In my understanding this isn't the case in Europe. At least in England.
Now, this is just me being a dick but....I'd imagine, just based on geography, that there are less kids playing soccer in England (especially since they don't even use that term). Logically, there are less moms driving them around in Ford Tahoes, so maybe, just maybe, they have less crazy in England.
comhcinc
05-05-2007, 01:13 AM
that cause they sent all the crazy over here
darron
05-05-2007, 01:14 AM
I thought they sent the crazies to Australia?
I've never really gotten the whole naked breast bad, man decapitated good thing that seems to go on here. just odd.
comhcinc
05-05-2007, 01:16 AM
no they sent the criminals to Australia, while we got the puritans i.e. crazies
paper
05-05-2007, 01:21 AM
There might be Puitans on the board, dude. Careful what you say.
He didn't mean it, LizzyProctor87.
comhcinc
05-05-2007, 01:25 AM
screw them, they have buckles on their hats. i mean for the love of god why?!?!
paper
05-05-2007, 01:26 AM
Shoes. Buckles on their shoes.
For fastening.
paper
05-05-2007, 01:28 AM
Some of them have abandoned the buckled shoes for LA Lights or similar light-up sneakers.
These are called The Pilgrims Progressives.
comhcinc
05-05-2007, 01:29 AM
http://www.libertybellmuseum.com/MuseumShop/images/H112.jpg
that's a funny looking shoe
paper
05-05-2007, 01:33 AM
No. You're right.
I always mix up puritan hats with these:
http://www.thecostumer.com/upload/miner1.jpg
comhcinc
05-05-2007, 01:35 AM
yeah you are thinking about coal miners' daughters
paper
05-05-2007, 01:41 AM
Right! Because the Puritans believed that even the good children get coal in their Christmas stockings.
I thought it was because of all the Pilgrims with black lung
comhcinc
05-05-2007, 01:45 AM
yep coal for burning the witches at the stake with.
well of course they burned them - they weighed less than a duck and were made of wood
paper
05-05-2007, 01:47 AM
I thought it was because of all the Pilgrims with black lung
Too soon.....
Too soon.....
was there an incident? did I forget some horrible Pilgrims in a volcano thing or something?
paper
05-05-2007, 01:52 AM
It has only been three seasons since my dear Abigail was taken by the black lung. Once Lucifer seizes thy bellows...
I'm utterly, hopelessly, lost. You thought I was going to say devoted to you didn't you?
paper
05-05-2007, 01:55 AM
No one to my knowledge has died of the black lung recently.
comhcinc
05-05-2007, 01:55 AM
whaa??? .
paper
05-05-2007, 02:03 AM
Remember when I made the Pilgrim's Progress joke? Let's pretend nothing happened after that.
comhcinc
05-05-2007, 02:04 AM
this is all the puritans fault. stupid buckles on their stupid hats
jimski
05-05-2007, 06:57 AM
this week's has a question from our very own jimski
(possibly - unconfirmed)
I can confirm that I have now had the honor of Joe Q. brushing me off personally.
Seriously: Oh my God, what if kids see Spider-Man swear? We have to keep them safe! What? Ripping and tearing at the flesh of the living, his innards exposed on the cover? Yeah, I don't see any problem there. That should be fine. Parents love that.
He was supposed to say, "Oh my God, Jimski, you're right. I've been so blind. Spider-Max by Frank Miller comes out next winter."
I was pretty sure that was you getting 'ye olde brushoff'
or maybe he's just an idiot and didn't understand the question
your choice
comhcinc
05-05-2007, 07:48 AM
how about a compromise?
he is an idiot who didn't understand the question so he brushed it off
jimski
05-11-2007, 10:49 PM
w00t!
Last week, Joey Q gave me ye olde brushoffe when I asked him about the apparent contradiction in not letting Spider-Man be in a MAX book while letting him eat his wife's face off in Marvel Zombies. I consoled myself by thinking, "Maybe next week someone will write in and say, 'Hey, answer the question.'" And it looks like they did!:
http://www.newsarama.com/NewJoeFridays/NewJoeFridays47.html
Thank you, KingMattress, wherever you are.
iSteve
05-11-2007, 11:10 PM
NEW JOE FRIDAYS WEEK 47 - 5/11/07 (http://www.newsarama.com/NewJoeFridays/NewJoeFridays47.html)
This week Newsarama and Joe Quesada talk about Free Comic Book Day, the longevity of comic book icons, some other varied topics (including the winner of the Ed Brubaker/Kristen Bell photo caption contest), and as always - reader questions...
alexg
05-11-2007, 11:13 PM
Steve--thanks for being so on point with the links. I never seek this stuff out, but always click on it when you post it and find it interesting. I appreciate the effort you put into doing this.
iSteve
05-11-2007, 11:33 PM
Steve--thanks for being so on point with the links. I never seek this stuff out, but always click on it when you post it and find it interesting. I appreciate the effort you put into doing this.
I enjoy doing it. Glad you find it useful.
jimski
05-19-2007, 08:30 AM
Did anybody else read this week's Joeless "New Joe Fridays"? It kicked sand in my face and called me Pee-Wee.
-Spider-Man: One More Day is not just an Amazing Spider-Man arc; it's one of those line-disrupting crossovers where each chapter of the story is in a different damn book, like The Other
-When One More Day is over, Peter David and the entire Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man team are history
-As of #21, Dan Slott is off She-Hulk, replaced with, I don't know, let's say a monkey
-Christmas has been replaced with a lengthy dental appointment
Not a fan of how those announcements came out. "What's new?" "Everyone is going away." "But... who will replace them?" "Sorry; bad news only! Ha ha!"
It's really funny to me how my attitude towards Joe Fridays has changed. I used to anticipate it. Honestly, I'd read it by 6:45 on Friday night. Now, there are weeks that go by that I don't even read it or just skim it on sunday night looking for the interesting part.
iSteve
05-19-2007, 03:44 PM
New Joe Fridays is up
NEW JOE...ER...BACK IN WACK (http://www.newsarama.com/NewJoeFridays/Wack/BackWack.html)
So - normally we start off New Joe Fridays with some pithy remark, noting some of the recent events at Marvel, or something or other. This week, we're a little…er…well, coming up dry, because we're doing New Joe Fridays without Marvel Editor-in-Chief Joe Quesada.
Turns out that Joe was asked to be the guest speaker at BBDO's Worldwide conference in Miami next week, which threw his schedule into a blender for the rest of this week, making fielding questions for NJF an impossibility.
So what's a BBDO? - two words - Steve Wacker....
http://www.newsarama.com/NewJoeFridays/Wack/JoeQHeadshot.jpg
comhcinc
05-19-2007, 04:00 PM
when was the last time there was a big name on spider-man? why doesn't the big names want to work on the book?
conorkilpatrick
05-19-2007, 04:31 PM
when was the last time there was a big name on spider-man? why doesn't the big names want to work on the book?
JMS is a pretty big name in the biz. Moreso when he joined up on the book.
comhcinc
05-19-2007, 04:47 PM
yeah you are right conor, but he was the first in a long time. it's like Spider-Man seems to make stars all the time but you rarely see a big name coming on board unlike say X-men. do you think it has any thing to do with the creators not being allowed to shake things up in the book?
iSteve
05-25-2007, 11:50 PM
NEW JOE FRIDAYS WEEK 100 (http://www.newsarama.com/NewJoeFridays/JoeFridays100.html) - May 25, 2007
This week, the special, double-sized 100th edition of Joe Fridays! That’s right, we’re going back to the original numbering and title (for one week anyways) to celebrate 100 weeks of Joe Fridays goodness…
This week we take a look back at the first 99 weeks, hit on a few topical issues (like something to do with Heroes for Hire and tentacles that we don’t even like saying out loud), and of course, reader questions…
comhcinc
05-26-2007, 12:11 AM
you know i don't think i have ever seen him answer a question unless it involves a plugging an upcoming book. must be great to A: completely live in the dark when it comes to people not liking something you company does and B: to never be wrong
jgg0610
05-26-2007, 12:32 AM
you know i don't think i have ever seen him answer a question unless it involves a plugging an upcoming book. must be great to A: completely live in the dark when it comes to people not liking something you company does and B: to never be wrong
As stated before, if you don't like it don't buy it. You can't blame the guy for defending his company. He and the company are in it to make money. That's the bottom line. He had a perfectly reasonable explanation for the cover. I still happen not to like it, but it doesn't mean he doesn't have a right to defend their decision to go forward with the cover. Also, on the MJ statue, it seems pretty obvious that he had nothing to do with it so, if anything, the fault (if there is any) lies with Sideshow.
jimski
05-26-2007, 12:56 AM
Well, as you can see a little earlier in this thread, he was a little dismissive the time I asked him a question a couple weeks back, but other people pressed him on it and he articulated a point of view. Even if it was crazy.
Seriously, though, afterwards a couple of blogs picked up the conversation, though it was nowhere near the MJ statue thing. On the whole, I was satisfied.
The thing is, he can't really answer most of the questions. "Who takes over for JMS on Spider-Man?" "Oh, I'm glad you asked; I was gonna save that for convention season, but I guess now I'll answer it here."
itsbecca
05-26-2007, 01:13 AM
He just seems so flippant about it. I find that somewhat bothersome.
jgg0610
05-26-2007, 01:18 AM
He just seems so flippant about it. I find that somewhat bothersome.
How would you expect him to react? I would have less respect for him if he came out and said (about the cover since this is the one he had fore-knowledge of) we didn't realize this would be such a big deal and we're pulling it. Then you get into the issue of censorship which is a very slippery slope.
itsbecca
05-26-2007, 01:28 AM
How would you expect him to react? I would have less respect for him if he came out and said (about the cover since this is the one he had fore-knowledge of) we didn't realize this would be such a big deal and we're pulling it. Then you get into the issue of censorship which is a very slippery slope.
Maybe being even slightly apologetic? Like "I'm sorry some people unfamiliar with it view it that way, but in reality this is the situation it's depicting". Instead he says, "Wow people who don't like this are ridiculous." Then he tries to excuse it by saying it was done by a woman, which is a very weak defense.
And with the MJ statue? At first when he established that he had no ties to it whatsoever I thought "Ahhh smart move, smart move" THEN in the next breath he says he doesn't understand the issue. Sigh.
comhcinc
05-26-2007, 01:31 AM
As stated before, if you don't like it don't buy it. You can't blame the guy for defending his company. He and the company are in it to make money. That's the bottom line. He had a perfectly reasonable explanation for the cover. I still happen not to like it, but it doesn't mean he doesn't have a right to defend their decision to go forward with the cover. Also, on the MJ statue, it seems pretty obvious that he had nothing to do with it so, if anything, the fault (if there is any) lies with Sideshow.
it's funny that you bring that up, cause i was talking about his general attitude, but let's talk about that. let's look at what he said:
Not really. When fans saw the statue was exactly the same time I was made aware of it, I have no involvement in that stuff and haven’t kept up with the brouhaha. yeah right. he might not be in charge of marketing and licensing but i find it hard to believe that the EiC hasn't seen this before.It kind of floors me in a way because Adam Hughes is brilliant and is known for his amazingly sexy portrayal of strong women, he is surprise that anyone is upset cause the guy who made it is "brilliant". really?
so I’m not quite sure what people are up in arms about? Seriously, fill me in because I’ve literally been out of town and out of the loop."
yes he has been in miami where it is well known that they don't have internet access.
it's just so fake. it'll be nice if he at least act like he give a damn. some thing like "yeah that has been alot of talk about this piece and we are taking it all in." but no not even that.
itsbecca
05-26-2007, 01:34 AM
hah, exactly. I mean... doesn't he have lawyers handing him scripts or something? That was REALLY what he thought was the best thing to say? The issue is completley non-existant to him.
conorkilpatrick
05-26-2007, 01:45 AM
yeah right. he might not be in charge of marketing and licensing but i find it hard to believe that the EiC hasn't seen this before.
Licensed properties don't work like that. It is extremely believable that Quesada never saw the statue before it was solicited. That's a whole separate part of the corporation that he's not in charge of.
jimski
05-26-2007, 01:49 AM
The statue will not rest until it has killed every thread, leaving only silence! Run for your lives!
comhcinc
05-26-2007, 01:51 AM
i understand that he is not in charge of it, but i still find it hard to believe that he had no clue about that thing.
even then i don't want this to become about that mj thing. my beef is that he never gives a straight answer
jgg0610
05-26-2007, 11:56 PM
This is as good as place as any to pose this question. Why is it when a statue or a cover comes out from Marvel, you get an almost instant reaction from quite a few people and there is always talk to Joe Q. should apologize/address the issue, yet when similar things happen with DC merchandise, you rarely if ever hear Dan Didio's name mentioned? Is it because Joe takes the time to do a weekly interactive column vs. those DC Nation pages of Didio's or what?
This is as good as place as any to pose this question. Why is it when a statue or a cover comes out from Marvel, you get an almost instant reaction from quite a few people and there is always talk to Joe Q. should apologize/address the issue, yet when similar things happen with DC merchandise, you rarely if ever hear Dan Didio's name mentioned? Is it because Joe takes the time to do a weekly interactive column vs. those DC Nation pages of Didio's or what?
no and yes. Joe Q is far more available than Didio so that helps the situation. Didio does get shit from people though for things like the lack of a commemorative spot in batman's cave for the female batman.
jimski
05-27-2007, 12:11 AM
Didio does get shit from people though for things like the lack of a commemorative spot in batman's cave for the female batman.
Can you imagine our grandparents when they were our age getting upset about something like that?
comhcinc
05-27-2007, 12:32 AM
yes it was called the civil rights movement
conorkilpatrick
05-27-2007, 02:37 AM
yes it was called the civil rights movement
Uhm......?
comhcinc
05-27-2007, 02:55 AM
when rosie parks refused to give up her seat and was arrested there was alot of newspapers that ran articles asking "what the big deal" was. i'm not saying that this issue is anywhere near as important as anything that was happening. but this like that, may be the start of a grass roots movement. or maybe not.
*edit*instead of the civil rights movement that makes sense in regard to the question jimski put forth insert the grass roots movement surround the release of new coke
jgg0610
05-27-2007, 04:13 AM
They are not even in the same ballpark. To even make that comparison is to completely belittle the Civil Rights movement.
jgg0610
05-27-2007, 04:14 AM
no and yes. Joe Q is far more available than Didio so that helps the situation. Didio does get shit from people though for things like the lack of a commemorative spot in batman's cave for the female batman.
Yeah, I seem to remember something about that, but it doesn't seem like quite the same thing.
comhcinc
05-27-2007, 04:22 AM
They are not even in the same ballpark. To even make that comparison is to completely belittle the Civil Rights movement.
it would help if you took the time to read what i wrote and think about it for a minute instead of just jumping to a conclusion
alexg
05-27-2007, 04:25 AM
Dude, you gotta admit, going from a fictional character to the civil rights movement was a bit of a jump cut...
jgg0610
05-27-2007, 04:25 AM
it would help if you took the time to read what i wrote and think about it for a minute instead of just jumping to a conclusion
I saw the disclaimer that you put in there before I made the post but I stand by my original comment. The Civil Rights movement was something that needed to happen. People were dying because of it. No one is dying due to images of tentacle porn on comic books. These are not even close and to imply that they are, even with the disclaimer that you put in, is insulting to the Civil Rights movement.
As much as I don't want to wade into this fray, some people would argue that if things like the MJ statue and the HFH cover influence people's attitude towards women or possibly even encourage violent fantasies about women then its opposition is something "that needs to happen".
jgg0610
05-27-2007, 04:44 AM
As much as I don't want to wade into this fray, some people would argue that if things like the MJ statue and the HFH cover influence people's attitude towards women or possibly even encourage violent fantasies about women then its opposition is something "that needs to happen".
Now you're getting into the Ozzy Suicide Solution territory. A cover or a statue can't, in my opinion, make you do anything that you aren't already predisposed to do anyway.
itsbecca
05-27-2007, 04:57 AM
Now you're getting into the Ozzy Suicide Solution territory. A cover or a statue can't, in my opinion, make you do anything that you aren't already predisposed to do anyway.
Ehhh.... See that's difficult though. Do I think someone is going to see this cover and go slap their girlfriend? Probably not. But if this cover is just accepted as status quo then it sets the standard for things to come. Societal tone and morality does have an impact on people.
jgg0610
05-27-2007, 05:00 AM
Ehhh.... See that's difficult though. Do I think someone is going to see this cover and go slap their girlfriend? Probably not. But if this cover is just accepted as status quo then it sets the standard for things to come. Societal tone and morality does have an impact on people.
I'm not saying it doesn't have an impact on people. I'm in agreement with you on the girlfriend line. I also see the cover and the statue as two very different things. The statue is just titilating to be titilating while the cover definitely has violent undertones. Those are two completely different things to me.
comhcinc
05-27-2007, 05:05 AM
I saw the disclaimer that you put in there before I made the post but I stand by my original comment. The Civil Rights movement was something that needed to happen. People were dying because of it. No one is dying due to images of tentacle porn on comic books. These are not even close and to imply that they are, even with the disclaimer that you put in, is insulting to the Civil Rights movement.
you really don't understand what i was saying.
the civil rights movement was a grass roots thing. it began when average people decided they didn't like the status quo and set out to change it. i think a case could be made that the same thing might be starting to happen here.
if it makes you feel better i am willing to go back and edit to compare it to new coke
alexg
05-27-2007, 05:11 AM
I think I get it...
The vote in campaign to kill Jason Todd was just like the Suffragette movement?
jgg0610
05-27-2007, 05:11 AM
you really don't understand what i was saying.
the civil rights movement was a grass roots thing. it began when average people decided they didn't like the status quo and set out to change it. i think a case could be made that the same thing might be starting to happen here.
if it makes you feel better i am willing to go back and edit to compare it to new coke
I think the new coke comparison might be a more appropriate comparison. In my mind, the original comparison is akin to comparing the Civil Rights movement to the need for new Coke to disappear. They just aren't in the same sphere of importance. I get your whole grass roots comparison but your two choices of subjects don't seem to be of equal importance.
comhcinc
05-27-2007, 05:12 AM
I think I get it...
The vote in campaign to kill Jason Todd was just like the Suffragette movement?
in that they were both good things? yes.
acomicbookgirl
05-27-2007, 05:12 AM
:confused: Can someone help me out here with the last couple of posts please?
alexg
05-27-2007, 05:13 AM
Apparently New Coke was the reason The female Robin's costume was left out of the batcave...or something like that.
jgg0610
05-27-2007, 05:14 AM
Apparently New Coke was the reason The female Robin's costume was left out of the batcave...or something like that.
LOL!!
..10..
acomicbookgirl
05-27-2007, 05:14 AM
New Coke? Female Robin's costume? Ok... This is a Marvel thread right? I just want to be sure... I haven't had a drink today since I had my fix last night.
itsbecca
05-27-2007, 05:15 AM
I'm not saying it doesn't have an impact on people. I'm in agreement with you on the girlfriend line. I also see the cover and the statue as two very different things. The statue is just titilating to be titilating while the cover definitely has violent undertones. Those are two completely different things to me.
I do agree (although I dislike them both :) ).
jgg0610
05-27-2007, 05:16 AM
New Coke? Female Robin's costume? Ok... This is a Marvel thread right? I just want to be sure... I haven't had a drink today since I had my fix last night.
I'm only drinking water right now. Maybe that's the problem. I should be drinking heavily. That and stop reading an issue of Fell every few minutes in between posts.
jgg0610
05-27-2007, 05:18 AM
I do agree (although I dislike them both :) ).
Cool. I don't happen to like either one of them but I support the artist and the companies right to produce them, however, I will show my lack of support with my wallet. Of the two though, I definitely see the cover as worse of the two due to the violence issue.
acomicbookgirl
05-27-2007, 05:21 AM
If it wasn't for the fact that my friend and I have tickets for the 9:30 am screening of Pirates I would have one. I'm just dumbfounded as of late...
I just don't see the connection nor objective of the posts...
I think i'm going to call it a night..
I'm not saying it doesn't have an impact on people. I'm in agreement with you on the girlfriend line. I also see the cover and the statue as two very different things. The statue is just titilating to be titilating while the cover definitely has violent undertones. Those are two completely different things to me.
the statue is sexist subjugation imagery
jgg0610
05-27-2007, 05:26 AM
the statue is sexist subjugation imagery
I thought the same thing until I read the interview (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=113690) with Adam Hughes on Newsarama. He has a completely different take on it.
jgg0610
05-27-2007, 05:26 AM
If it wasn't for the fact that my friend and I have tickets for the 9:30 am screening of Pirates I would have one. I'm just dumbfounded as of late...
I just don't see the connection nor objective of the posts...
I think i'm going to call it a night..
Enjoy the movie.
alexg
05-27-2007, 05:33 AM
AH: My idea was pretty simple, I thought – classic Mary Jane, from the days when Peter and MJ were boyfriend and girlfriend, and she’s found his Spider-Man costume in the laundry basket. It’s the weird little secret that couples have from each other that gets discovered. For me, the gag was that this was the moment when Mary Jane found out that her boyfriend is Spider-Man. She’s not doing his laundry, because I don’t know anybody that does laundry in a basket on a table. Even if you don’t have a washing machine, you’d do the laundry in the sink.
---well, I don't know anyone who needs to go stiff legged and stick out their ass completely to dig through the laundry basket either.
comhcinc
05-27-2007, 05:38 AM
To be honest, I’ve had more than a few feminists come up to me at conventions, and, without exception, the conversations always go something like this: a woman will come up and tell me that, as a feminist, they’re usually appalled by the way women are portrayed in comics, but there’s something about the way I do them that’s not offensive, and I thank them.
-so how i just don't believe that.
alexg
05-27-2007, 05:42 AM
That interview was done after the net blow up about the dumbass statue...
comhcinc
05-27-2007, 05:44 AM
yeah but i have seen his other work and i just don't buy that.
jgg0610
05-27-2007, 05:44 AM
---well, I don't know anyone who needs to go stiff legged and stick out their ass completely to dig through the laundry basket either.
Did you also read the part of the interview where he addressed the specific pose he used as referencing specific pin-up poses from the 40's?
alexg
05-27-2007, 05:45 AM
And that justifies what?
jgg0610
05-27-2007, 05:45 AM
To be honest, I’ve had more than a few feminists come up to me at conventions, and, without exception, the conversations always go something like this: a woman will come up and tell me that, as a feminist, they’re usually appalled by the way women are portrayed in comics, but there’s something about the way I do them that’s not offensive, and I thank them.
-so how i just don't believe that.
So now, not only are you questioning whether the man should be able to produce his art to make a living, you're also questioning his integrity and calling him a liar?
jgg0610
05-27-2007, 05:46 AM
And that justifies what?
It's not that it justifies anything. Do you also have an issue with classic pin-ups of Betty Paige because she is frequently shown in that position.
alexg
05-27-2007, 05:47 AM
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...huh? where's my pie?
comhcinc
05-27-2007, 05:49 AM
So now, not only are you questioning whether the man should be able to produce his art to make a living, you're also questioning his integrity and calling him a liar?
first off if he was to make dirty statues that his business i never said he couldn't and yes i don't believe him. if he had said "most" instead of "without exception" i would just find it funny.
jgg0610
05-27-2007, 05:51 AM
Other than the fact that you simply don't believe him what basis do you have for calling him a liar? That seems pretty drastic since I'm guessing that you don't know him personally?
jgg0610
05-27-2007, 05:52 AM
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...huh? where's my pie?
Would that be warm apple pie, sir?
comhcinc
05-27-2007, 05:53 AM
i don't need any other basis.
jgg0610
05-27-2007, 05:54 AM
i don't need any other basis.
So on the basis of one comment in one interview you've decided the man's a liar? Impressive. Don't think that'll hold much water though.
comhcinc
05-27-2007, 05:57 AM
So on the basis of one comment in one interview you've decided the man's a liar? Impressive. Don't think that'll hold much water though.
again you are the one that started using the liar term, not me. but if not telling the truth makes you a liar then yes i guess so
jgg0610
05-27-2007, 05:59 AM
I think it's best if we agree to disagree on this subject and move back to other pursuits.
itsbecca
05-27-2007, 02:15 PM
Yeah, the last two pages have just been kind of silly. I don't know if he's lying or not. I generally want to beleive the best in people, because that's simply how I work. How can you call a man who says this a liar:
"While any woman who eats an ice cream cone or banana in public should have it smacked out of their hand because it’s far too suggestive, and people will be hurt if they see it. "
I'm sorry. That was hilarious. Thank you for posting the interview. Not to say that I've 180-ed and love the statue and think like those imaginary feminists in Adam Hughes head. I still dislike the statue. I dislike the last one in his line. I will probably dislike the next one. They aren't made with me in mind, so that's no surprise.
[I am glad the whole controversy came about though. Until then I pretty much had the additude of "That's the way it is in this industry. There's nothing I can do." but now I'm re-evaluating a bit.]
I thought the same thing until I read the interview (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=113690) with Adam Hughes on Newsarama. He has a completely different take on it.
I read it too and I don't buy it for a second. He may be telling the truth and it may just be an unfortunate coincidence but it doesn't feel that way to me.
jgg0610
05-27-2007, 05:21 PM
I read it too and I don't buy it for a second. He may be telling the truth and it may just be an unfortunate coincidence but it doesn't feel that way to me.
Fair enough. I'm just glad that Hughes had the oppurtunity to explain what he had in mind when he did the original art that this was based on.
Fair enough. I'm just glad that Hughes had the oppurtunity to explain what he had in mind when he did the original art that this was based on.
I am too. To be honest though, if he was going for something else then he failed. In the end I think it matters more what people take from it.
jgg0610
05-27-2007, 05:44 PM
I think another thing that's going on with this is that the original sketch differs quite a bit from the finished statue. This also happened with the Emma Frost statue and the Wonder Girl mini bust that I know for sure. If you look at the original art on the Wonder Girl bust for example, the boobs aren't nearly as overexaggarated as they are on the final statue.
comhcinc
05-27-2007, 06:36 PM
i think i would be kinda upset if they keep changing my art.
paper
05-27-2007, 06:38 PM
This is off topic, but why is your user pic George Michael?
jgg0610
05-27-2007, 06:40 PM
This is off topic, but why is your user pic George Michael?
Is that who that is? I thought it was Brad Pitt.
I assumed it was because he likes to expose himself in restrooms
jgg0610
05-28-2007, 12:34 AM
If it wasn't for the fact that my friend and I have tickets for the 9:30 am screening of Pirates
How was the movie?
acomicbookgirl
05-28-2007, 12:56 AM
How was the movie?
Great! Way better than the 2nd movie! I loved it! :)
jgg0610
05-28-2007, 12:59 AM
Great! Way better than the 2nd movie! I loved it! :)
That's a relief because the second one was very much not good. We left the house last night with the intention of seeing it but ending going book shopping after dinner instead. I think tonight we're going to watch the Good German.
acomicbookgirl
05-28-2007, 01:10 AM
It wasn't. This made up for it.
iSteve
06-02-2007, 04:01 PM
New Joe Fridays Week 49 (http://www.newsarama.com/NewJoeFridays/NewJoeFridays49.html)- 6/1/07
This week, updates on a couple of Marvel anthologies in the works… Travis Charest drawing Cap..? Some more on that tentacle thing… and of course, reader questions…
http://www.newsarama.com/NewJoeFridays/NJF49art/HULK.jpg
Just read this.
DId anyone else notice the Female Daredevil in the Yu's NA tease?
Seriously!
jgg0610
06-02-2007, 07:51 PM
Just read this.
DId anyone else notice the Female Daredevil in the Yu's NA tease?
Seriously!
Damn, now I did. Completely missed it the first time.
darron
06-02-2007, 09:32 PM
Yea, and I liked Parker on the side, hand out, trying so hard to shoot his webbing.
This has to be my all-time favorite response on any NJF....
You will get more of Clint and his new identity and whether he keeps it or not in very recent upcoming issues. Unless he dies at the hand of Hydra leader Nick Fury at the end of #31, or Ultron might make him into a Japanese school girl, or really he's the Beyonder, or... wait, maybe Clint could be Master Chief.
I'm writing too many books.
jgg0610
06-02-2007, 09:34 PM
Yea, and I liked Parker on the side, hand out, trying so hard to shoot his webbing.
This has to be my all-time favorite response on any NJF....
Now that I did notice and got a good laugh out of.
iSteve
06-09-2007, 11:41 PM
NEW JOE FRIDAYS WEEK 50 - 6/8/07 (http://www.newsarama.com/NewJoeFridays/NewJoeFridays50.html)
This week in the special 50th editi…nah, just kidding…we’re just asking questions and Joe Quesada answers them. Joe talks some more about handling minority characters in the Marvel U, drops what we believe may be some sort of hint about the upcoming X-Men event, and how the change in cover prices of comics the last couple of years factors into the industry’s recovery…
http://www.newsarama.com/NewJoeFridays/covers/newjoefridaysBIGa.jpg
iSteve
06-16-2007, 01:44 PM
NEW JOE FRIDAYS WEEK 51 - 6/15/07 (http://www.newsarama.com/NewJoeFridays/NewJoeFridays51.html)
This week, we talk that big surprise ending to this past week’s big story … both of them [so considered yourself SPOILER WARNED as of this moment on]. We also talk a little World War Hulk and some One More Day covers…
Plus, as if you didn’t get enough info and new images today already, we preview some Marvel releases for September…
http://www.newsarama.com/heroes_philly07/Marvel/SM_ONEMOREDAY_cvr1-20001_t.jpg
iSteve
06-23-2007, 05:05 PM
NEW JOE...ER...BACK IN WACK 2: READER's REVENGE (http://www.newsarama.com/NewJoeFridays/Wack_2/Back_Wack_2.html)
So in case you missed it, due to last weekend's "Con-A-Rama" (TM Newsarama, LLC.) your regular targe... uhhh... subject of this weekly Q&A, Joe Quesada, had to take a week off, so we got editor Stephen Wacker to come back for a second installment of "Back in Wack".
Steve will be editing the soon-to-be-shipping-three-times-a-month-(don't-you-love-hyphens) Amazing Spider-Man, so we figured you all would have a ton of questions for him... and turns out you did.
So in a moment we'll get to your questions (in bold) and Wacker's responses (not so much). But before we do, here's a brief message from our usual pats... uhhh... interviewee, Joe Quesada...
http://www.newsarama.com/NewJoeFridays/Wack/JoeQHeadshot.jpg
paper
06-23-2007, 05:40 PM
See, that's bad timing. Because if he had done his Joe Fridays this week you would have found out that I've been asked to write and illustrate a new monthly called Sensational Tintin 3D. The premiere issue #0 comes out in the Fall. 97 pages. 3.99 price point. That's a deal.
There are currently no plans to make it in actual 3D. Just something the marketing guys came up with.
iSteve
06-30-2007, 02:21 AM
NEW ROSEMANN FRIDAY: A NEW JOE FRIDAYS' FILL-IN (http://www.newsarama.com/NewJoeFridays/newrosemann.html)
From Newsarama
As regular Newsarama readers now, Marvel E-i-C Joe Quesada is still sweating blood over One More Day pages, so he's asked editor Bill Rosemann to help out and fill-in this time around for our usual weekly Q&A. A few days ago we asked for your questions, gathered and sent them Rosemann's way, and the here's the fruits of your's and his efforts.
So have at 'em, beginning with a message from Rosemann…
First, as a loyal New Joe Fridays reader, I wanted to thank my E-i-C for giving me this opportunity. All of the creative teams on the books I'm lucky enough to edit bust their collective butt to bring you exciting comics on time, so I greatly appreciate this chance to mercilessly plug … uh, I mean answer the intelligent and provocative questions of all Newsaramians.
Second, while I didn't answer all seven pages of posed questions, I did select 25 queries that I had info on or am allowed to discuss. No one wants to read an interview filled with "We'll reveal all at San Diego!" (But we will have a buttload of cool stuff to announce there.)
Okay, enough of my yackin'. On to your probing questions, such as…
iSteve
08-25-2007, 04:49 PM
WARREN SIMONS SAYS - A JOE FRIDAYS FILL-IN (http://www.newsarama.com/NewJoeFridays/SimonsSays.html)
So Joe Fridays is back... sort of...
After a few weeks off while Marvel Comics (and Newsarama) recovered from convention season, our weekly Q&A with the Marvel Editor-in-Chief returns, even if Joe Quesada isn't quite ready yet to come back with it. So over the next little while, we'll continue to give readers the opportunity to ask questions of the Marvel "Editors-in-Waiting", as it were.
This week we have the Thor, The Order, Iron Fist, Terror, Inc. (and more) editor Warren Simons, who breaks the modern record for preview art in a Joe Fridays edition...
http://www.newsarama.com/NewJoeFridays/Simons/z1_Thor_design_t.jpg
iSteve
09-18-2007, 11:02 PM
NEW JOE FRIDAYS - ONE MORE DAY SPECIAL (http://www.newsarama.com/NewJoeFridays/JoeFridays_OMD.html)
Newsarama Note: Summer and this Spider-Man gig Joe's doing with JMS have wreaked havoc on everyone's schedules, so, with the con season over, and calmer (hey, we can hope) fall days on the horizon, we're working with Joe to get Joe Fridays back on a regular schedule. We're all still very committed to it, so bear with us as we all work out a few more kinks to come back Mightier...er...more Astonishing...um...more Uncanny...hm...Invincible than ever. In the meantime, we spoke with Joe about the start of One More Day...
http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Spider-Man/OMD/OMD/t_ASM544Cover_Quesada.jpg
jimski
09-18-2007, 11:37 PM
Just today, I was thinking, "When did Joe Fridays just sort of go away?"
cormano
09-18-2007, 11:51 PM
Wow, I gotta say, those pages look a lot better than the first issue of One More Day. I love crazy page layouts with different boarders and stuff all over the place. We'll see how they look once they're inked and colored, though.
iSteve
11-03-2007, 02:48 PM
MESSIAH COMPLEX LOWE-DOWN - A JOE FRIDAYS FILL-IN (http://www.newsarama.com/NewJoeFridays/lowe.html)
C'mon, we don't have to explain the concept any more at this point, do we?
We asked for your questions for Marvel editor Nick Lowe on X-Men: Messiah CompleX (click on the link for our interview interview with Uncanny X-Men writer Ed Brubaker), you submitted them, and Lowe answered a bunch of them ...Brilliant in its simplicity.
So without further ado...
Nick Lowe: Hello, everybody! Thanks for having me this week for New Joe Fridays.
Newsarama: Okay Nick - broad stokes...what gets Messiah CompleX rolling, and what's at stake for the X-Men?
NL: Survival, plain and simple. Their species is dying out and the birth of the first mutant baby since M-Day is the possibility of life.....
http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/xmen/MessiahComplex/UXM492.jpg