Dude, I am on teh Linux!

[samureye]

Running Ubuntu off live CD posting this now. Sweet! I want to convince my mother to dump XP and go with Ubuntu alone but I really have no experience with Linux so maybe it's not such a great idea. Maybe when i buy a Laptop I should dual boot? For now the Live CD is great. I don't know where to start though...Ah well, 'tis cool!

[keithldick]

Look around for an old used computer and set it up to run Linux, that way you can learn about it before you actually install it on your good computer...

[samureye]

I'd like to do that, but a dual boot is like doing the same thing, no?

[comhcinc]

it sure will

[phatlip12]

I think you will be alright. Ubuntu is getting ALOT of attention and is growing and growing every day. I suggest Ubuntu to anyone that can't afford a Mac. ;) LOL

[electricalburn]

I think you will be alright. Ubuntu is getting ALOT of attention and is growing and growing every day. I suggest Ubuntu to anyone that can't afford a Mac. ;) LOL

ha phatlip what do you think of duel bootin ubuntu with your mac with parrels?

[chuckles]

ha phatlip what do you think of duel bootin ubuntu with your mac with parrels?

Parallels is very different from dual booting. Parallels allow you to run another OS (virtual machine) from within your main OS.

Bootcamp allows you to dual boot on your Mac.

-chuckles-

[phatlip12]

ha phatlip what do you think of duel bootin ubuntu with your mac with parrels?

I've used Ubuntu in Parallels from time to time (and use Windows in Parallels when I am using Visual Studio). Parallels is great, just make sure you have plenty of ram. I only have 512 mb at the moment so using Parallels can be sort of a pain. I'm planning on upgrading to 2 gigs this summer - once I get some money. :(

[masherscf]

Running Ubuntu off of a boot disk is about an impressive at toasting your own bagel.

Post again after you have done a network install of Slackware and compiled your own kernel.

[sugarsickness]

Running Ubuntu off of a boot disk is about an impressive at toasting your own bagel.

Post again after you have done a network install of Slackware and compiled your own kernel.

I love how Linux users tend to make everything into some sort of pissing contest.

[samureye]

Running Ubuntu off of a boot disk is about an impressive at toasting your own bagel.

Post again after you have done a network install of Slackware and compiled your own kernel.

Ummm, hell no?

[bman]

I love how Linux users tend to make everything into some sort of pissing contest.

its all the old school linux people who had to do things the hard ways lol

[fred]

its all the old school linux people who had to do things the hard ways lol

I know a guy like that. You know the ones you try to sell you that it's easier to do: %s /word/newword/g then it is to click find/replace. These are the same kind of people that look down on you for using rpms. I work in a field where I need to use Linux part of the time. It really blows.

[tokenuser]

I love how Linux users tend to make everything into some sort of pissing contest.Masher was taking the piss out of sammy ... sarcasm doesn't translate well on the internet.

BTW - I was one of those old school linux users. A gui meant getting X server running correctly. KDE? Bah. Gnome? Pfft. X Server FTW!

I don't do Linux any more, but as soon as I get time I will be doing Ubuntu on my iOpener.

[samureye]

iOpener? I don't think I get the whole thing with Linux, I mean, it's like Windows, just a bit different. Maybe I should do an install.

[comhcinc]

it has nothing more in common with windows other than they are both OSs

[masherscf]

iOpener? I don't think I get the whole thing with Linux, I mean, it's like Windows, just a bit different. Maybe I should do an install.

It's not like Wndows at all.

1. It's free.

2. It's open source.

[samureye]

It's not like Wndows at all.

1. It's free.

2. It's open source.

In terms of GUI, you professor, you.

[masherscf]

In terms of GUI, you professor, you.

But, the GUI is completely customizable. The Ubuntu one looks like Windows because people like that. You could also design one that looks like OSX. You could design a GUI that looks nothing like either of them. You could pitch the GUI all together. That's the beauty of Linux, dude. The GUI is the least characteristic thing about Linux.

[samureye]

Well what makes Linux what it is besides being open source? And do show me which distros emulate the Mac OS.

[masherscf]

Well what makes Linux what it is besides being open source? And do show me which distros emulate the Mac OS.

Dude, you're getting it all wrong. You're wondering about going out and finding stuff.

That main difference of Linux is that you can build the stuff yourself. Linux is a "do-it-yourself" OS. People do it, then share it. They're also willing support you. I didn't say there was a distro that "emulated" OSX, I only said it was possible. Indeed, any interface you can imagine is possible given the programming expertise that the proper equipment.

So, using Windows is like Shopping at Walmart for your clothes. Mac OSX is like shopping at The Gap. Linux is like finding a great taylor or just making the clothes yourself.

[samureye]

MMMmmmmm.....

[phatlip12]

But, the GUI is completely customizable. The Ubuntu one looks like Windows because people like that. You could also design one that looks like OSX. You could design a GUI that looks nothing like either of them. You could pitch the GUI all together. That's the beauty of Linux, dude. The GUI is the least characteristic thing about Linux.

I would like to see a GUI unique to Linux.

[masherscf]

I would like to see a GUI unique to Linux.

it looks something like this..


Bash>

[phatlip12]

it looks something like this..


Bash>

No Masher, that isn't what I was talking about. ;)

[masherscf]

No Masher, that isn't what I was talking about. ;)


Well, in a point of fact, about 14 years ago when you were still learning how not to poop in your pants. Unix had a GUI. This GUI was a least as distinctive from Windows 3.1, Mac OS 7 or whatever was out then. It was at least as distinctive as the desktop OSs were from each other. Of course, Windows and MAC OS looked nothing like they do today and the functionality looks similar but has definitely evolved. As desktops became more powerful, they replaced UNIX mainframes in many offices, universities and industries. The Unix GUI that would inspire Xfree86 in Linux was pretty much forgotten. As people rediscovered the Unix inspired Linux, they naturally wanted a GUI. It became a point of functionality to give XFree86 a shell that looked and functioned more like Windows. However, the resemblance is only skin deep. The original GUI is still under there somewhere.

[tokenuser]

Well, in a point of fact, about 14 years ago when you were still learning how not to poop in your pants. Unix had a GUI. This GUI was a least as distinctive from Windows 3.1, Mac OS 7 or whatever was out then. It was at least as distinctive as the desktop OSs were from each other. Of course, Windows and MAC OS looked nothing like they do today and the functionality looks similar but has definitely evolved. As desktops became more powerful, they replaced UNIX mainframes in many offices, universities and industries. The Unix GUI that would inspire Xfree86 in Linux was pretty much forgotten. As people rediscovered the Unix inspired Linux, they naturally wanted a GUI. It became a point of functionality to give XFree86 a shell that looked and functioned more like Windows. However, the resemblance is only skin deep. The original GUI is still under there somewhere.At the heart of every MacOS and inux distro beats the remains of an X server :(

[masherscf]

At the heart of every MacOS and inux distro beats the remains of an X server :(

Don't you mean an X client? A little Unix humor there.

Ironically, in the Unix server-client relationship. The mainframe "logs in" to your display when it opens a window. Therefore, in an session of X windows, the client-server relationship is technically reversed. Therefore, in order to display use a GUI application in Unix remotly, one must have the X windows server software.

Of course you've already logged into the mainframe to tell it to open a window to your display. The arrangement may seem confusing, but it was the only way they could keep other mainframes from hijacking your display. Unix techs are nasty drunks.

There are several X windows servers available for the Windows platform. So what you do is have a Linux box tucked away some place and log into it from windows using ssh. Then, using a ssh tunnel the Linux box can connect to the X widows server daemon on your PC and voila, you can open a Linux window on your PC.

If Apple and Microsoft got their asses together there wouldn't be any need for parallels.

[ArmpitOfDeath]

It's not like Wndows at all.

1. It's free.

2. It's open source.

3. And it's really hard to find productivity software which actually runs better than stuff you *buy* (gasp - yes it's an alien concept I know) for Windows if you're not a starving student.

I've been running Ubuntu on a dedicated Samsung notebook for a while now. Runs really well these days but it's more of a tech toy than anything else right now as I can't find anything useful that I can do on it which actually runs better under Linux.

[masherscf]

3. And it's really hard to find productivity software which actually runs better than stuff you *buy*

Sometimes Linux runs a little too well...if ya know what I mean.

It may seem that a properly compiled Linux executable is less tolerant of hardware errors than a Windows. Or, people expect Windows to always **** up, so when the computer blue-screens we always suspect the OS first. However, Linux doesn't blue-screen when it gets a hardware error. It does a core dump and the kernel keeps chugging.

[tokenuser]

Don't you mean an X client? A little Unix humor there. We understand each other :)

[psbp516]

Linux Is Awesome!!!

[gi_josh]

I'm using ubuntu, check the screen shot.

But seriously, it's to crazy ready through a thread where masher has already shown up...sometimes I think my head might explode.

[sugarsickness]

Masher was taking the piss out of sammy ... sarcasm doesn't translate well on the internet.And that is why smilie faces were invented. It also doesn't help that almost every time Ubuntu is mentioned on the Innernets someone comes up and starts going on and going about how it is ruining Linux or some similarly bitter rant solely because it is easier to install than Gentoo is.

I've been using linux for the last four years. Used Slackware and Gentoo (But mostly slackware) and then eventually Ubuntu Hoary when it came out. Then have been using Arch Linux on my main computer for the last 8 or 9 months now (Though I have Feisty Fawn on a second computer that I play my media on). Old school user? Hardly, but I know enough to know that Ion3 is probably the coolest window manager in the world.

[chuckles]

Ion3 rocks. No need for a mouse. :) But as far as UNIX like OS of choice, NetBSD.

-chuckles-

[masherscf]

And that is why smilie faces were invented.

I don't need smilie faces. If I ever say something outrageous, offensive, or just plain wrong...I was being sarcastic. If I say something intelligent, insightful or witty, that's my serious talk. ;)

[gi_josh]

I don't need smilie faces. If I ever say something outrageous, offensive, or just plain wrong...I was being sarcastic. If I say something intelligent, insightful or witty, that's my serious talk. ;)

But there was a smile after that...but you don't need smilies...so was that outrageous or insightful? Or do you just break your own rules? I'm lost...

[masherscf]

But there was a smile after that...but you don't need smilies...so was that outrageous or insightful? Or do you just break your own rules? I'm lost...

And thats just the way I like it... http://www.berubians.com/postboard/images/smileys/bang.gif

[samureye]

Masher is a mind&^ck like that.

[masherscf]

Masher is a mind&^ck like that.

Nah, I just like people to think for themselves.

[samureye]

And the mind^7ck continues.