View Full Version : This Week In Comics for 6/13/2007 - A Fred Review *now with emphysema
This was a great week for comics. My 8 books had an average that was nearly an A-. The Book of the Week was Fables #62. The Shit Book of the Week was New Avengers #31. DC was the Publisher of the Week. I had only 1 book in my stack that I was unhappy with. It was a surprising week indeed.
DC Comics
DC was the Publisher of the Week with an A average. It was one hell of a week from DC. They also had the Book of the Week in Fables #62.
Countdown #46 - This was really good. I liked it with a few notable exceptions.
Liked
1. The Jimmy Olsen stuff (most of it)
2. The Mary Marvel stuff (most of it was excellent)
3. The Rogues are always a lot of fun
4. Ths stuff with the Monitors and Donna Troy and Jason Todd
Disliked
1. Darkseid's assitant's name was Sleeze. It was just a bit hokey and dumb for me
2. Mary Marvel has to fight a DEAD BABY MONSTER - yeah seriously, a dead baby monster. Apparently, Palmiotti and Gray are gearing up for their new gig writing lyrics for Cannibal Corpse
3. Forerunner is a terribly designed character and that scene didn't really end either
The art was better than it has been. B+
Green Arrow #75 - Holy crap what a way to go! This was an amazing issue. I will miss this book, but at least Winick knows how to craft an ending. Ollie is out as the mayor of Star City, the recall election has been called off, Ollie's mayoral advisor has been made the mayor, Nocerta has been screwed, Deathstroke has been defeated, the Star City wall has come down, and Ollie proposed to Dinah. It was an action packed and amazing issue. The art was pretty great as usual. A
Fables #62 - This was an extremely good issue. I love this Flycatcher storyline and I'm glad that it will continue without Boy Blue. I had worried that it might die prematurely for lack of his help. In this issue, Fly hooks up with the Foresworn Knight and gets his magic armor, the sword Excalibur, and becomes a knight. He will be traveling back to the homelands to take his kingdom back with magic that makes it impossible for him to lose unless he becomes impure. I also really enjoyed the Prince Charming scenes where he gave Hansel his ultimatum to the Adversary. It was a great scene and it showed Charming's strength of character. I really enjoyed it. The art was great as usual. A+
DMZ #20 - DMZ is such an astonishingly good book. It really delivers issue after issue. I can't even imagine reading it in trades. I can't wait 6 months to get more story. It's just so great. I think that the artist on this was a fill-in but there were only a few spots where it was easy to tell. Overall, awesome as usual. A
Marvel Comics
Marvel had a B+ average for the week. The average was dragged down by the only bad book in my stack today. It was the suprising Shit Book of the Week in New Avengers #31.
New Avengers #31 - I'm not sure how to go on this. The issue itself had some great moments. The banter between Hawkeye and Spider-Man was funny. I liked the competitiveness. The story was interesting. I'm afraid of what it means though. If Jessica Jones' baby is a Skrull and Elektra is a Skrull then it's only a short hop to there being a full-scale behind the scenes Skrull takeover. I'm afraid that they will use it to roll back the SHRA, the Initiative, and a bunch of other things. It almost feels like there's an inevitable team-up to save the real Tony and Reed coming. Jones' baby might not be a Skrull though and it may not mean that. I may be overreacting. The art sucked balls again. Leinel Yu should get a job illustrating anime. People would appreciate his speed lines there. D+
World War Hulk #1 - This was awesome. I'm not usually big on the gigantic fight issues. It really worked here. The Hulk and Iron Man had one of the greatest fights I've seen. The Hulk really ****ed him up. It was so awesome when Tony injected him with the nanobots, took him down, and shot missles at him and it just PISSED the Hulk OFF. Oddly, Romita's pencils were a bit off in a few places. They were good overall but I really don't like the way that he draws the Hulk. This was a lot of fun. So great, looking forward to #2. A
Cable & Deadpool #41 - This was really good. I was surprised. I was kind of dreading it because I knew that Cable was in it. It was awesome though. The Cable parts weren't that great, but they didn't completely suck like they normally do. It also helped that all of the Deadpool scenes were hysterical. I love Nicieza's Deadpool and I really hope that Cable is the "major death" in the X-Men event. This book needs to be just Deadpool. The art was the same as always, neither great nor terrible. A
Nova #3 - This was awesome. I loved it. This was the second half of the story of Nova's time visiting Earth. He fought the Thunderbolts and more or less won. He fought with his parents. He met up with Penance, who was in New Warriors with him as Speedball. That was a very interesting scene. I've been complaining that they're not doing enough with Penance and I was happy to see this. Penance asked him to join the Initiative and he decided to leave the Earth instead. I liked the art. I am worried though that this will begin to suck with him going back into space. I'm going to try to keep the faith though because I never expected this book to be any good in the first place. A
paper
06-13-2007, 11:55 PM
Will you be dropping Nova because you hate space comics?
I'm giving Nova a shot because I never thought that it would be good in the first place and I've been pleasantly surprised. The writer has earned some good will with me.
paper
06-14-2007, 12:02 AM
D+ for New Avengers is just silly. You must have the syphilis. It wasn't that bad.
I agree with just about every other point. My letter grades are probably a letter down from yours though. Maybe it's just the week I'm having, but nothing really got me where I lived.
Green Arrow A-
World War Hulk: B+
Countdown B
New Avengers B
Nova B-
Pick of the Week...Green Arrow minus the JLA stuff.
D+ for New Avengers is just silly. You must have the syphilis. It wasn't that bad.
I agree with just about every other point. My letter grades are probably half a letter down from yours though. Maybe it's just the week I'm having, but nothing really got me where I lived.
I do have the syphillis and my syphillis has crabs. That's not the point though. First off, blame the curve man. Secondly, this could be the issue that sets the table for the worst story ever told. If this becomes what I think that it may, Paulie Shore movies will be more respected for their integrity.
MastaP
06-14-2007, 12:04 AM
I really liked countdown but the DeadBabyMonstertm really threw me
it was quite the odd thing - deadbabymonster
paper
06-14-2007, 12:09 AM
I kinda liked the Fetal Attraction. Didn't go anywhere though.
I loved that it's witty banter was essentially, "I'm going to eat your shit."
I've used that as a pickup line so I uh related to it
Six Gun
06-14-2007, 12:32 AM
I called the pick, wonder if Ron actually read all of his books? I wouldn't fault him if this POW was just a gimme to Terry Moore.
acomicbookgirl
06-14-2007, 12:35 AM
I probably will grasp it all after reading the pocketbooks but I got the issue at my LCS and after reading it, Strangers in Paradise deserved it..
One of the reasons that I ruled out GA was because it felt to me like I might be doing that.
acomicbookgirl
06-14-2007, 12:42 AM
One of the reasons that I ruled out GA was because it felt to me like I might be doing that.
I'm lost.. :confused:
paper
06-14-2007, 12:43 AM
The JLA deus ex machina was a real douche ex machiblahhhhhhhh. The only thing that I didn't like about GA.
Six Gun
06-14-2007, 12:47 AM
My shop closed it's comics section today. And I leave for War College tomorrow, so, no books for me!
paper
06-14-2007, 12:49 AM
You already said that. Or are you the Six Gun Skrull?
You already said that. Or are you the Six Gun Skrull?
well, well, well, Mr. Haterade is a little cranky today. :rolleyes:
I'm lost.. :confused:
It was the last issue. I felt like I might be picking it (if I had) because of that.
Mikegraham6
06-14-2007, 12:55 AM
D+ for New Avengers is just silly. You must have the syphilis. It wasn't that bad.
agreed, it wasn't that bad. the art still throws me off though. Wong looked like he was a million years old on that second page... but Yu is great when it comes to action.. What the F?!?!?!
I also didn't like the lines eminating from Wolverine's claws, i understand he was trying something different but i just didnt work and it doesn't fit American superhero comics.
paper
06-14-2007, 12:58 AM
Yeah, I love Yu's art, especially in big actiony scenes. But it tends to be very confusing in the context of story scenes. Movement from panel to panel is pretty unruly.
Six Gun
06-14-2007, 12:59 AM
I called the pick, wonder if Ron actually read all of his books? I wouldn't fault him if this POW was just a gimme to Terry Moore.
Six Gun
06-14-2007, 01:00 AM
What was the GA Ex Machina? like I said, couldn't get my books.
paper
06-14-2007, 01:00 AM
well, well, well, Mr. Haterade is a little cranky today. :rolleyes:
Hey, I'm holding back. I'd have given WWHulk a C- if I thought I could get away with it, vitals intact.
er...... ;)
The Screw on Aaron
06-14-2007, 01:01 AM
This was a really good week! After having two ok weeks with like four books each week and one crap week with three books that all disappointed me this was an excellent week with eight books.
It was close with World War Hulk #1 and Nova #3 tying for my pow. But in the end the awesomeness of World War Hulk won me over as my pow:D.
Countdown #46: this issue was weird and creepy, that about sums it up. Mary Marvel (now the new Black Adam grumble grumble!)is flying around Gotham city exploring her new powers when she encounters five pregnant women praying to a peace of The Rock of Eternity. The idea of various pieces of the rock of eternity being scattered all over Gotham is a fascinating one I would like to see explored more. However, it’s use here is down right creepy. A Demon made out of babies! That's right a baby demon monster comes out of the peace of the rock with the mothers and fights Mary Marvel. I would say it's a little disturbing. What was it doing in this book? It sounds more like something for Preacher (which I haven't read but have heard of) then Countdown and put me off for a good chunk of this book.
Other than that it was pretty decent. The mystery with the new gods and Jimmy Olsen thickens. I'm very interested to see who this new bad guy that is killing New Gods and their servants left and right is, especially considering they say it's not Darkseid.
The introduction of this new character Forerunner in interesting, but the design looks like a thousand other different characters I have seen so I hope her personality as a character will be enough to like her as we go on. I don't know much about this new character so I'm ready to save judgment until we get to know her more.
Overall I would give this a grade: D (that baby demon thing just creeped me out!)
Justice #12: I really don't know what to say about this book. It's taken two years to finish. Two years! That's a long time even for a 12 issue miniseries. At the end of it was it all worth it? I don't know. The art was fantastic and was half the reason I bought this book. The other half was to see the Justice league in their prime get taken down. That happend a lot in the first couple of issues and it was great to see, but as soon as it got into how they regrouped and strike back it got boring. There were some great character moments in this series overall and Alex Ross’s art is fantastic (particularly the way he draws the Joker) but after about issue six it kind of lost me.
Overall is pretty damn sweet and I'm sure when I read it all together (which I will do) it will be fantastic.
Grade: C
Series overall grade: A
BPRD #4: ummmmm….. This was awesome!:D That's all I can really say about it it's constantly good and is always giving me new mysteries and answers at the same time. The characters are great and the sheer volume of history they have is fascinating. Every BPRD book that comes out is always satisfying and solid. If anybody is reading this book good for you it's awesome.
Grade: B+
New Avengers #31: well… ah.... that was something. This was the issue that was supposed to change everything with the last page but the shock we get is two pages before. Is Bendis trying to say something about little Luke Cage and Jessica Jones’s baby?
To get it out of the way I'm going to talk about the spoiler in this issue as well as the rest so from here on out Spoilers!
This issue in and of itself was nothing spectacular, just one big ninja fight which was fun but poorly drawn. The inking was too heavy and the characters had no detail whatsoever and if they did the detail was so screwed up by the art that I couldn't tell what their expressions were. There were some good character moments like the banter with Spider-Man and Hawkeye and Dr. strange coming back to life again to help Mara Lopez out of her hypnosis.
All the fighting leads up to the final moment and it's a doozy. Elektra is a Skrull! There I said it, after Mara Lopez is released from her hypnosis she stabs Elektra in the heart after which she turns into a Skrull. It could change everything but it could also seriously F*ck everything up!
I trust Bendis to deliver something great from this he's never let me down before any seems to have this all very planned out so I will reserve judgment for later . But seriously, is the baby the important bit or the Skrull thing? I must admit I'm intrigued the job Mr. Bendis!
Grade: C
Nova #3: oh God if it wasn't for World War Hulk this would have been the best book this week!
Nova finally says what I've been thinking this whole time “I think the world's gone psycho and I want off.” Finally somebody in the Marvel U notices how God damn crazy this whole Civil War is!
Nova fights the Thunderbolts and they get there ass Wooped. Finally these villains disguised as heroes get a talking down to and get shown their place even if it's from Tony Stark. Richard Ryder has become so much more than this puny civil war and its great that somebody has noticed that and gone with it. He seen billions die and help save the galaxy and by the end of this issue it seems he realizes that this world is no longer the world it used to be and he doesn't belong in it anymore. There is a great talk between him and Penance at the end, it really shows how changed the Marvel universe is after the last year or so. Two friends who knew each other as teenagers in a fun superhero group now are grown up and have responsibilities, each of them has suffered greatly and believe in something different.
A great issue I'm so glad I hopped on the Annihilation bandwagon, grade: A
The last and best book of the week for me is-
World War Hulk #1: this was truly fantastic! This is everything I wanted and more in this series. Having started reading The Hulk with Planet Hulk I feel that this is continuing that momentum and making it even better. From the first page it grips you preparing you for some truly spectacular battles. Those four pages with Black Bolt are some of the coolest pages ever! I want them badly! The Hulk takes down Black Bolt after being in the receiving end of a talksplode with that awesome line “I didn't come here for a whisper. I want hear you scream” what a better line to get me pumped, I would've liked the book if it had been just those four pages but we get more.
The Hulk fights Tony Stark and evacuates Manhattan. In this fight Tony Stark nukes him with some missiles, when this happens The Hulk has a flashback to his love on the other planet with his unborn baby and how they got destroyed. You can really feel the Hulk's motivation here and it's very believable, the power on these pages is amazing John Romita’s art is absolutely breathtaking as we get a panel of just the Hulk eyes after being nuked saying “you killed her!” The amount of splash pages in this book is phenomenal and it might be some of the best action sequences I've ever seen.
I really can't say enough about this book hopefully were finally going to get a: well-written, on-time, beautifully drawn, satisfying event which will more than make up the mess that was Civil War.
Grade: A+
This was a really good week I was really satisfied as supposed to last week when I was really unsatisfied with all my books this week however I was more than satisfied with almost every one of them.
The reviews just keep getting longer but hey I have a lot to say.tell me if it's too much or affecting how you read them. Great week!
paper
06-14-2007, 01:03 AM
What was the GA Ex Machina? like I said, couldn't get my books.
GA was in a fight with Slade and it was going somewhere kinda interesting until the JLA (Supes included) showed up to save the day. For the last issue it kinda sucked that he didn't get to handle the situation himself.
Hey, I'm holding back. I'd have given WWHulk a C- if I thought I could get away with it, vitals intact.
er...... ;)
I'm uploading a Come On Paper Get Happy gift right now. I'll let you know. This is not to be missed.
Six Gun
06-14-2007, 01:05 AM
GA was in a fight with Slade and it was going somewhere kinda interesting until the JLA (Supes included) showed up to save the day. For the last issue it kinda sucked that he didn't get to handle the situation himself.
Oh, that sucks, I don't like Winnick's way of writing Batman, at all.
MastaP
06-14-2007, 01:09 AM
I trust Bendis to deliver something great from this he's never let me down before
Cough*houseofm*Cough
tetsujin
06-14-2007, 01:13 AM
Not sure about the ending to New Avengers, I'll see where bendis takes it and say what you will about Yu's art but Jessica Jones giving Wong the **** off and die look on the first page was one of my favorite panels this week.
Countdown was solid. I love the direction there taking Mary Marvel, still waiting for some Kyle rayner action though. Picked up the new Fables trade, I've collected the good prince storyline in singles so I should be fully caught up with Fables and ready to read it monthly by the end of the week (yay for not having to skip the reviews in the podcast).
World War Hulk kicked ass too. Black Bolt VS Hulk was great. The Avengers working together was fun as well. Speaking of hulk, anyone else pick up the new Franklin Richards? It was par. Overall it was a light but very satisfying. Which is kind of refreshing (though I picked up the beastly Planet Hulk HC so I still ended up spending alot....I just can't win in this industry)
The Screw on Aaron
06-14-2007, 01:14 AM
Cough*houseofm*Cough
I…aaaaaa…. actually liked that. please don't hold it against me!:confused:
paper
06-14-2007, 01:17 AM
Sorry, I'm so pissy today, guys. Stupid as it sounds I usually read my books with my dog on the couch. And I couldn't do that today. :( Sometimes she'd help me choose between my top two books by pointing with her nose. Honestly. When I was between Countdown and Avengers: The Initiative last week, it was her call. I'm gonna miss that goofy dog.
Mikegraham6
06-14-2007, 01:18 AM
I…aaaaaa…. actually liked that. please don't hold it against me!:confused:
i didn't think it was that bad either, if you overlook the fact that it was all one big What if story.
The last two issues were awesome and i loved Oliver Coipel's art
Sorry, I'm so pissy today, guys. Stupid as it sounds I usually read my books with my dog on the couch. And I couldn't do that today. :( Sometimes she'd help me choose between my top two books by pointing with her nose. Honestly. When I was between Countdown and Avengers: The Initiative last week, it was her call. I'm gonna miss that goofy dog.
I'm sorry about your dog. I don't mean anything by the things I've said. I was just messing with you.
This, being that it's the goofiest thing ever, may make you feel a bit better. Please to enjoy, '80s Hair Metal band Poison covering Justin Timberlake's Sexy Back (http://download.yousendit.com/4F89746E4D9253B7).
The Screw on Aaron
06-14-2007, 01:26 AM
i didn't think it was that bad either, if you overlook the fact that it was all one big What if story.
The last two issues were awesome and i loved Oliver Coipel's art
I agree, I got into it when I first started picking up single issues and some of the things in it were quite interesting. We got Linda Miller for the x-factor book who is a great character, at the time that it was pretty cool that Wolverines got his powers back and Spider-man got to be depressed and upset again. Overall I liked it plus I didn't buy any of the tieins so that might have helped too.
paper
06-14-2007, 01:27 AM
I'm sorry about your dog. I don't mean anything by the things I've said. I was just messing with you.
This, being that it's the goofiest thing ever, may make you feel a bit better. Please to enjoy, '80s Hair Metal band Poison covering Justin Timberlake's Sexy Back (http://download.yousendit.com/4F89746E4D9253B7).
Ah, not at all, man. I know you didn't mean anything by it.
That's funny as hell. Thanks, Fred.
acomicbookgirl
06-14-2007, 01:28 AM
It was the last issue. I felt like I might be picking it (if I had) because of that.
Oh ok.. I'm still confused on what my pick is.. I had a pretty good week.. I can't decide on one.
acomicbookgirl
06-14-2007, 01:30 AM
Sorry, I'm so pissy today, guys. Stupid as it sounds I usually read my books with my dog on the couch. And I couldn't do that today. :( Sometimes she'd help me choose between my top two books by pointing with her nose. Honestly. When I was between Countdown and Avengers: The Initiative last week, it was her call. I'm gonna miss that goofy dog.
Awwww Paper.. http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/acomicbookgirl/6.gif I don't know if you are a Top Chef kind of guy but Season 3 is starting tonight..
Ah, not at all, man. I know you didn't mean anything by it.
That's funny as hell. Thanks, Fred.
ok cool.
this cover is part of an unbelieveable(and not in a good way) cover album that they just put out. Sexy back is the hidden bonus track on the Walmart exclusive version of the CD.
paper
06-14-2007, 01:35 AM
Awwww Paper.. http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/acomicbookgirl/6.gif I don't know if you are a Top Chef kind of guy but Season 3 is starting tonight..
Thanks, AC. Give those mutts of yours a good rub on the ears for me, yeah?
I totally am! I've got the All Star Top Chef thing on right now, and I'll be checking out season 3 for sure. It's one of my favorite shows.
The Screw on Aaron
06-14-2007, 01:38 AM
Will I'm going to bed. I've got a train to London tomorrow and will be there for six days. I won't be posting any comments tomorrow as I’m on a train all day, but I've got the ninth trade of Fables to read along the way and the second trade of Gotham Central plus I'm still reading essentials Thor volume 1. I'll probably come back with a load of trades as I always do when I go to London, the stores are just so good! Talk to you all Friday goodnight:)
Labor_Days
06-14-2007, 01:41 AM
Ah, good to see you all haven't lost your bite after my long hiatus.
SiP was definitely my POW. WWH and Fables were a lot of fun this week too.
(lite week for me and I'm wwaayyy behind on books.)
holy **** dude I thought you died
welcome back
how's it going?
were you in gitmo?
paper
06-14-2007, 01:46 AM
Yeah, welcome back, Labor. You were missed.
Hell, some of us have even more bite.
acomicbookgirl
06-14-2007, 01:48 AM
Thanks, AC. Give those mutts of yours a good rub on the ears for me, yeah?
I totally am! I've got the All Star Top Chef thing on right now, and I'll be checking out season 3 for sure. It's one of my favorite shows.
I will.. I'm in for season 3. I just waiting for Project Runway..
kwok_talk
06-14-2007, 01:52 AM
WOW! Welcome back Labor! (We though MikeG was keeping you locked up in Canada for a while)
paper
06-14-2007, 01:53 AM
Anybody read Sub-Mariner? It was on my list, but I ended up putting it down. I'm on a budget, and I've decided not to take as many risks in terms of new books. I do like the character though.
Labor_Days
06-14-2007, 01:58 AM
Thanks for the welcome back, Kwok, Paper & Fred. The rumors of my death were greatly exaggerated. Though I nearly did die during my absence.:(
Give me some time to catch up and I'll be spouting off my half-ass opinions all over the weekly review threads soon enough. ;)
Jimski
06-14-2007, 02:00 AM
Oddly, Romita's pencils were a bit off in a few places. They were good overall but I really don't like the way that he draws the Hulk.
Some of that might be Janson. He has a very distinctive style; I thought I was looking at the Dark Knight for a panel or two there.
I enjoyed WWH, but dammit if the Sentry doesn't ruin everything he touches.
paper
06-14-2007, 02:03 AM
Yeah, the Sentry really hurt it for me too. He's like that cocky foreign exchange student with emotional problems everybody likes except you.
Curse you, Rudolpho. Or should I say.....The Void?
Some of that might be Janson. He has a very distinctive style; I thought I was looking at the Dark Knight for a panel or two there.
I enjoyed WWH, but dammit if the Sentry doesn't ruin everything he touches.
there were two? ah that explains it
I hate the panels where the Hulk has wispy frat boy hair
Thanks for the welcome back, Kwok, Paper & Fred. The rumors of my death were greatly exaggerated. Though I nearly did die during my absence.:(
Give me some time to catch up and I'll be spouting off my half-ass opinions all over the weekly review threads soon enough. ;)
yaaaaaaaay. we all really did miss you
kwok_talk
06-14-2007, 02:20 AM
there were two? ah that explains it
I hate the panels where the Hulk has wispy frat boy hair
It didn't seem to be a good week for women's hair in that book either. Ms. Marvel's hair - horrible. I thought Polaris was standing next to her. But that ended up being Doc Samson.
Mikegraham6
06-14-2007, 02:21 AM
WOW! Welcome back Labor! (We though MikeG was keeping you locked up in Canada for a while)
what are you talking about?? i would never abduct a fellow comic fan!
besides the chains in my basement are reserved for midgets and narcoleptics
Nice to have you back labor!
It didn't seem to be a good week for women's hair in that book either. Ms. Marvel's hair - horrible. I thought Polaris was standing next to her. But that ended up being Doc Samson.
I'll grant that Doc Samson doesn't have the most masculine look ever.
Six Gun
06-14-2007, 02:29 AM
Yeah, the Sentry really hurt it for me too. He's like that cocky foreign exchange student with emotional problems everybody likes except you.
Curse you, Rudolpho. Or should I say.....The Void?
Oh my gosh, you just described the two exchange students that my school had this year perfectly. That's exactly how I felt too!
paper
06-14-2007, 02:29 AM
Yeah, I actually thought it was a JRJR clone and not JRJR. Then I looked at the credits. I remembered Eternals looking a lot better on average.
kwok_talk
06-14-2007, 02:29 AM
In honor of the Fantastic Four movie coming out this week, it's a FF themed review week!
Countdown #46 wins the Thing award. Came out smashing, but I feel like it's been spotty and continues to lose some steam every week. The Thing is also one ugly mug, which is similar to this book. Why does Jimmy look different every week? Even uglier - Deadbabymonster. Seriously. At least the Rogue were entertaining. Grade: C
New Xmen #39 wins the Invisible Woman (Jessica Alba version) award. I've warmed up to the Skottie Young art in its super sleek and shiny form. Looks done up and fake - no arguments here, but doesn't mean that i don't kind of like it. One thing I enjoy about my time on this book so far is that anyone seems like they could die at any moment. I'm committed through the Magik arc. Grade: B-
New Avengers #21 wins the Reed Richards award with its cocky ending and hype. I love Yu's art and I can't think of a better person to be drawing the current team. One thing that stuck out to me this week was how he alternates between fixed frames and other pages where the action dictates and breaks frames. Love it (well, not Reed so much). Grade: B+
World War Hulk #1 is my pick of the week, but has some glaring points that worry me about whether I will feel this way about it the whole series. I've decided to spotlight it on this week's podcast, so I'll save my discussion on it.
paper
06-14-2007, 02:30 AM
Oh my gosh, you just described the two exchange students that my school had this year perfectly. That's exactly how I felt too!
I am nothing if not a student of archetypes.
acomicbookgirl
06-14-2007, 02:32 AM
Welcome back Labor.. :)
paper
06-14-2007, 02:32 AM
Haha, nice, Kwok. Weirdest rating system yet. I love it. But no Johnny Storm award?
kwok_talk
06-14-2007, 02:35 AM
Haha, nice, Kwok. Weirdest rating system yet. I love it. But no Johnny Storm award?
Let me be clear. WWH is not be default the Johnny Storm award. He would be my crap pick of the week, but due to a small week, we are all saved that disgrace. ;)
paper
06-14-2007, 02:37 AM
Oh, I picked up Kingdom Come. It's really funny if you imagine the Bible quotes in the beginning as read by Linus from the Peanuts Christmas Special.
npudim
06-14-2007, 02:47 AM
Anybody read Sub-Mariner? It was on my list, but I ended up putting it down. I'm on a budget, and I've decided not to take as many risks in terms of new books. I do like the character though.
I guess I was the only person who did. I really liked it, and it sets the stage for a big battle between SHIELD and the atlantians, but the ending kind of confused me, but it might be because I'm new
I considered the Sub-Mariner book but opted not to get it. I can't see it being great.
Oh, I picked up Kingdom Come. It's really funny if you imagine the Bible quotes in the beginning as read by Linus from the Peanuts Christmas Special.
I recently read it for the first time too. It was really good.
k33k3r
06-14-2007, 11:53 AM
Even with a small week I was left with a good feeling. I had four books with my POW being Countdown and my WTF being New Avengers.
Countdown - Great with only two problems the demonbabysitter thing that looked like it was in the wrong book and the Forerunner thing at the end of the issue. The Demonbabysitter just gave me the feeling of what the hell is he doing in this book? It seemed like something you would see in Ghost Riders or maybe Hellboy. I have no problem with the cliffhanger at the end with Forerunner. I just didn't like the concept of the character and the "humans are so fragile" crap.
New Avengers - It wasn't that bad but def. left me going WTF which is why it not the Shit Book of the Week and WTF book of the week. If they even retcon the last year and half with this crap I'm going to be very very pissy. The motion lines around Wolverine were distracting.... Skrulls, that was the best you could come up with?
_____ & Deadpool - PUDDINGIZE! Great issue. Like I say every month this book should just be DP but the Cable stuff this month was bareable. He saved himself with me by just chucking Sabertooth into the middle of the ocean.
Nove - This book was close to being my POW. I love how he jsut kicked the crap out of the Thunderbolts and even read them their galatic moranda(sp?) rights. Then Tony shows up and pretty much drops the hammer on the Thunderbolts. Get out of here and tell you boss to expect a call from me! I still hate Tony. The scene between Nova and Penance before he left to return to space was good stuff. So begins the next Annihilation series. Good stuff.
Picked up Detective Comics from last week after hearing the podcast from this week. I really enjoyed it and am becoming very happy with the DCU books that you have all pointed me towards.
And I'm spent...
nice reviews. I meant to mention yesterday that I dropped Punisher War Journal. I'm glad that I did.
acomicbookgirl
06-14-2007, 12:36 PM
nice reviews. I meant to mention yesterday that I dropped Punisher War Journal. I'm glad that I did.
Yay.. I think.. Anywho, http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/acomicbookgirl/41.gif.. Now if I can only learn to drop something..
k33k3r
06-14-2007, 12:51 PM
Oh yeah my CBG asked if I wanted that still and I my response was quick and simple. Um..... no!
kahunablair
06-14-2007, 12:52 PM
Everyone keeps talking about a small week. I had 13 or so books, even though I picked up some books just for the heck of it.
SubMariner wasn't a bad read. It's definitely a set-up first issue, but I am intrigued. I'm kind of surprised he is still written as a dick in his own book.
k33k3r
06-14-2007, 01:00 PM
Um jsut because he's in his own book doesn't make him not a dick. He's pretty much known as a dick throughout the Marvel U...
I kind of like that he's a dick. It works. Dr. Strange also works as a dick
k33k3r
06-14-2007, 01:58 PM
So who else felt kinda pissed off about the out that Tony gave to all the unregistered heros in WW Hulk? I didn't get the book but my CBG was like you need to read this page since you aren't buying this book.
Argh!!! Yeah the registration act was pointless.....
first off, read WWH. it was awesome
secondly, it wasn't an out. It was an "oh shit. the hulk is going to **** everybody up and we need help." he also said that they'd have the opportunity to "turn themselves in" when it was all over. He's said that before.
Six Gun
06-14-2007, 02:28 PM
War changes people's ideals (http://www.sonofthesouth.net/leefoundation/LettersAndrewHunter.htm)
And no, I'm not comparing the Civil War to WWH, I'm just saying that examples of such an act are replete throughout human history.
And yes I know that Lee was against slavery.
paper
06-14-2007, 02:33 PM
Robert E. Lee was against it.
Stan Lee still keeps several slaves.
"Excelsior!" actually translates to "Mush!"
;)
that's true. My grandparents were slaves on the Stan Lee plantation.
kwok_talk
06-14-2007, 02:57 PM
that's true. My grandparents were slaves on the Stan Lee plantation.
Mine too. Joe Q gave me 4 copies of CW #5 as reparations.
k33k3r
06-14-2007, 02:58 PM
Don't want to read WWH. Never was a Hulk fan and don't care to try and catch up on the story.
Mine too. Joe Q gave me 4 copies of CW #5 as reparations.
I also got a mule. It's not going to help much, but I thought that it was a nice gesture.
Six Gun
06-14-2007, 03:12 PM
Mine too. Joe Q gave me 4 copies of CW #5 as reparations.
Last I heard he was giving out copies of Ghost Rider on DVD, though I imagine that the government stepped in to stop that cruelty.
Six Gun
06-14-2007, 03:13 PM
I also got a mule. It's not going to help much, but I thought that it was a nice gesture.
Miss Misery from Sleeper likes mules (or was that a donkey) maybe you could sell it to her.
Last I heard he was giving out copies of Ghost Rider on DVD, though I imagine that the government stepped in to stop that cruelty.
He actually gave Kwok the copies of CW as reparations for the Ghost Rider DVD reparations.
Six Gun
06-14-2007, 03:23 PM
He actually gave Kwok the copies of CW as reparations for the Ghost Rider DVD reparations.
For which he will give him a subscription to Wizard
k33k3r
06-14-2007, 03:32 PM
Nah he'll probably give him the latest run of Heros for Hire...
He can't sell them, Hell we can barely give them away....
A subscription to Tentacle Rape Monthly?
Humphrey Lee
06-14-2007, 05:36 PM
One of these days I'll actually get to read my comics before ****ing Friday in a week. Life can't even seem to give me that little bit of recompense.
I just read Black Summer #0. Ugh. that book is clearly not written for me.
Didn't like it Fred?
I was relatively indifferent, as so little really happened outside of initial set-up. For me it's too early to judge.
I'm honestly getting to the point where politics is irritating the hell out of me. Strike that, not politics but political commentary. It comes from both the left and the right from Ann Coulter to Ted Kennedy to whomever you name. It's just gotten too shrill and extreme. Honestly, we (not you Cam ha ha ;) ), live in a country that people float 100 miles in a ****ing inner tube to get to. It's time to just get past all of this divisiveness and let each other enjoy it.
Jo-RelRollins
06-14-2007, 09:42 PM
New Xmen #39 wins the Invisible Woman (Jessica Alba version) award. I've warmed up to the Skottie Young art in its super sleek and shiny form. Looks done up and fake - no arguments here, but doesn't mean that i don't kind of like it. One thing I enjoy about my time on this book so far is that anyone seems like they could die at any moment. I'm committed through the Magik arc. Grade: B-.
Glad someone else besides myself enjoyed it. Funny enough Craig and Kyle found a way to even kill their most popular creation X23. Then taking out Pixie. They are literally developing characters than killing them in the next panel. Anole, who along with Match and Wolf Cub are my favs of the under used cast of kids, are being developed well. I think one of the three are gonna bite the bullet before this arc is up, i wonder who? My big concern is this is a small arc and they stated that a new team roster could come out of this, i'm not seeing. But i'm sticking through it due to the fact that its gonna be leading into Endangered Species. So we'll see.
By the way Fred what did you think of New Xmen? Or did u drop it?
By the way Fred what did you think of New Xmen? Or did u drop it?
I ran faster from it than Lindsay Lohan from a juice bar. I was out last month.
kwok_talk
06-14-2007, 09:52 PM
Glad someone else besides myself enjoyed it. Funny enough Craig and Kyle found a way to even kill their most popular creation X23.
Yeah, did she really die? (Not discounting being brought back somehow, but he ripped out her skeleton right?)
Hey Kwok,
Regarding the art in New X-men, Scottie says he was able to ink his own work this issue, and was much happier with it.
Perhaps that's why you enjoyed it more.
kahunablair
06-14-2007, 10:13 PM
I've been a huge Skottie young fan for years. His stuff on New X-Men, to me at least, is great. They're letting him go a little crazy with panels and the set up of the pages. I think he's doing some really good, weird stuff.
I really like his covers for Cable and Deadpool books though. Very, very trippy.
I'm not personally a fan of his style, but its nice to see that so many people have nice things to say about it.
Yes, I'm learning diplomacy.
JGG0610
06-15-2007, 12:15 AM
I'm honestly getting to the point where politics is irritating the hell out of me. Strike that, not politics but political commentary. It comes from both the left and the right from Ann Coulter to Ted Kennedy to whomever you name. It's just gotten too shrill and extreme. Honestly, we (not you Cam ha ha ;) ), live in a country that people float 100 miles in a ****ing inner tube to get to. It's time to just get past all of this divisiveness and let each other enjoy it.
Couldn't agree more. I'm really glad I didn't pick this up.
Labor_Days
06-15-2007, 12:16 AM
Hmmm, yeah. I'm not so hot on New Avengers anymore. Not that it's a bad book, per se. But somewhere between the New Avengers leaving Echo in Japan, running from the government and Hawkeye...I just lost interest in the whole thing. I don't even care who Luke Cage castigates anymore. Meh.
paper
06-15-2007, 12:19 AM
Does castigate mean 'kick in the vagina'?
Labor_Days
06-15-2007, 12:21 AM
Does castigate mean 'kick in the vagina'?
...Yes. Yes, it does.
JGG0610
06-15-2007, 12:22 AM
This was definitely the weakest NA in a while even considering the issues during CW.
Jo-RelRollins
06-15-2007, 01:02 AM
Yeah, did she really die? (Not discounting being brought back somehow, but he ripped out her skeleton right?)
I think Josh(Elixir) will bring her back, i mean the kid can regrow hearts.
paper
06-15-2007, 01:09 AM
I think Josh(Elixir) will bring her back, i mean the kid can regrow hearts.
This is true. They call him in whenever I break one. Which, ya know...often.
This is true. They call him in whenever I break one. Which, ya know...often.
and by "whenever I break one" you mean "kick in the vagina"?
paper
06-15-2007, 01:33 AM
I've been told that that is a good analogy for what I do when I leave a room.
So I've been thinking about Luke Cage. Is he resistant to Veneral Disease? I think so.
How do you get AIDS sexually? You have rough vaginal or anal sex that leads to tearing and bleeding. Cage has unbreakable skin.
How do you get Herpes? You get herpe-juice on your area and your skin absorbs it through your pores and voila! you have herpes. Cage's skin doesn't break. Does it still absorb things? I say thee nay.
Genital Warts, Chlmydia, etc are the same deal more or less as Herpes.
Aha you say, what about the crabs? Well, Cage could technically get crabs, BUTTTTTTTTT crabs live on the skin that they eat off of your junk. Cage's skin doesn't break. Game. Set. No crabs.
I think we've learned an important lesson here today. Cage is free to kick Elektra in the vag and donkey punch as many hookers as his heart desires. He cannot be stopped.
;):rolleyes:;)
Labor_Days
06-15-2007, 02:02 AM
It's the educational aspects of Fred's review thread that I missed the most while away.
JGG0610
06-15-2007, 03:10 AM
So I've been thinking about Luke Cage. Is he resistant to Veneral Disease? I think so.
How do you get AIDS sexually? You have rough vaginal or anal sex that leads to tearing and bleeding. Cage has unbreakable skin.
How do you get Herpes? You get herpe-juice on your area and your skin absorbs it through your pores and voila! you have herpes. Cage's skin doesn't break. Does it still absorb things? I say thee nay.
Genital Warts, Chlmydia, etc are the same deal more or less as Herpes.
Aha you say, what about the crabs? Well, Cage could technically get crabs, BUTTTTTTTTT crabs live on the skin that they eat off of your junk. Cage's skin doesn't break. Game. Set. No crabs.
I think we've learned an important lesson here today. Cage is free to kick Elektra in the vag and donkey punch as many hookers as his heart desires. He cannot be stopped.
;):rolleyes:;)
You are now my hero. I never really dug Luke Cage that much, now I just want to be him.
paper
06-15-2007, 03:13 AM
Luke's awesome. Deserves more popularity. A great character you'd never see over at DC.
JGG0610
06-15-2007, 03:14 AM
Luke's awesome. Deserves more popularity. A great character you'd never see over at DC.
What makes you say that (the DC part)?
I'm a big Cage fan. He fits into my favorite archetype - the bad mother****er with no real powers outside of being a bad mother****er.
unbreakable skin doesn't count as a power
paper
06-15-2007, 03:19 AM
DC's a little more theatrical. The costume and the superhero persona are a big deal. At Marvel, it's not always about putting on the mantle of super hero. There's a lot more of the street level, everyman kind of characters. Luke's as unassuming as they come. He uses his real name. He wears whatever clothes he feels like. You just don't see that at DC proper.
I'm talking modern Luke Cage, not Power Man.
and they don't even make him wear his tiara anymore
JGG0610
06-15-2007, 03:21 AM
DC's a little more theatrical. The costume and the superhero persona are a big deal. At Marvel, it's not always about putting on the mantle of super hero. There's a lot more of the street level, everyman kind of characters. Luke's as unassuming as they come. He uses his real name. He wears whatever clothes he feels like. You just don't see that at DC proper.
I'm talking modern Luke Cage, not Power Man.
Good point. He really is a street level character. He doesn't really work anywhere else.
seriously though, if I were to list all of my favorite characters and I intentionally left Cage off of it, you'd look at it and go: hey, where's cage?
he's an "in my wheelhouse" type of character
paper
06-15-2007, 03:24 AM
Good point. He really is a street level character. He doesn't really work anywhere else.
Well, I think he has the potential to go places. Bendis seems to think so.
paper
06-15-2007, 03:26 AM
seriously though, if I were to list all of my favorite characters and I intentionally left Cage off of it, you'd look at it and go: hey, where's cage?
he's an "in my wheelhouse" type of character
Yeah, I think we're on the same page. Luke Cage, Wildcat, Batman, Daredevil. It's the street level guys who run with the big dogs.
Yeah, I think we're on the same page. Luke Cage, Wildcat, Batman, Daredevil. It's the street level guys who run with the big dogs.
Exactly. They'd all be on the list. I'm not into the "big and or mystical power" thing. I think that it's cheap and confusing. Cable is a great example of this. Nobody knows what his powers are because they change so frequently and even sometimes within issues (both C&D #40 and C&D #41). As a result, they can make them whatever they need for the deus ex machina in the story.
paper
06-15-2007, 03:37 AM
Agreed.
Add Green Arrow and Tim Drake to the thumbs up list.
I never actually thought of it this way, but it makes a lot of sense.
For the **** of it (and because it's fun)
My Favorites (in no particular order because I suck at that part):
1) Batman
2) Daredevil
3) Luke Cage
4) Iron Fist
5) Spider-man
6) Wolverine
7) Beast
8) Wildcat
9) Green Arrow
10) Red Arrow
11) Speedy (Mia Dearden)
12) Captain America
13) The Punisher
14) Spider-Woman
15) Jessica Jones
There are more that will pop into my head as soon as I lie down. It is late after all.
It's pretty easy to see why this version of the New Avengers is like my favorite ever right?
Agreed.
Add Green Arrow and Tim Drake to the thumbs up list.
I never actually thought of it this way, but it makes a lot of sense.
damn it!
I forgot Tim Drake. Thank you for helping me to address this grave injustice.
16) Tim Drake
and while we're at it
17) Dick Grayson
edit #62:
18) Bucky as The Winter Soldier
19) Nick Fury
20) The Falcon
21) Black Adam - ok I know that he doesn't really fit in with the others but he's so badass that I don't care
paper
06-15-2007, 03:46 AM
We have near identical lists. I'd just swap out Punisher and Speedy (only because I know next to nothing about her) for Molly Hayes and Kitty Pryde.
22) Molly Hayes
23) Kitty Pride
it will never be an all-encompassing list I fear
you should read the latest GA run trades for stuff on Mia. She's great, tough, and fascinating. Also, she's from the archer family so she doesn't have any powers. It's all her and training.
The Punisher is a character that you either react to positively or negatively. I won't try to sell you.
paper
06-15-2007, 03:49 AM
Hey...that's kind of interesting...
Molly Hayes
Kitty Pryde
The y's line up.
Am I giving Kitty a Y where it doesn't belong? Is it Pride?
EDIT: Nope, it's Pryde.
Hey...that's kind of interesting...
Molly Hayes
Kitty Pryde
The y's line up.
Am I giving Kitty a Y where it doesn't belong? Is it Pride?
I'm not sure. I'm always worried that I've spelled it wrong. I'll check. Nope, you're right it's Pryde.
so that should say:
23) Kitty Pryde
paper
06-15-2007, 03:53 AM
The Green Arrow books are high priority. My LCS has been missing some volumes.
When you say latest run trades, you just mean as far back as Winick's been writing?
The Green Arrow books are high priority. My LCS has been missing some volumes.
they are really great. And oh by the way,
24) The Spirit
Jo-RelRollins
06-15-2007, 05:56 AM
I think Tim Drake and Cannonball are on my list.
Don't want to read WWH. Never was a Hulk fan and don't care to try and catch up on the story.
you're missing out. It's been really great. I was never even really a Hulk fan before it.
acomicbookgirl
06-15-2007, 12:42 PM
you're missing out. It's been really great. I was never even really a Hulk fan before it.
So its a must read? Hmmm... Do I need to know anything about Hulk to get it?
acomicbookgirl
06-15-2007, 12:49 PM
Anyone read Re-Gifters? Mike Carey is guest blogging at Newsarama (http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/06/15/guest-blogger-mike-carey/).
paper
06-15-2007, 12:53 PM
So its a must read? Hmmm... Do I need to know anything about Hulk to get it?
The issue does a good job of explaining all thats led up to the event. I think you can go in pretty cold.
acomicbookgirl
06-15-2007, 12:59 PM
Ok.. Do I need to get all of the tie-in's and what not?
Ok.. Do I need to get all of the tie-in's and what not?
Probably not. I'm buying some of them but not all of them. I'd say that WWH and IH will probably be most important. There are some others that look interesting like Gamma Corps and Front Line but they're likely not required reading.
Incredible Hulk #106 from 3 or 4 weeks ago would also help to catch you up. It's not really very complex though. The Illuminati sent the Hulk into space because he destroyed Las Vegas. He ended up on the wrong planet. It was inhabited. He became a slave and then earned his freedom as a gladiator. He eventually led his warbound to take back their planet from their oppressors and became their king. He married a local woman and she was pregnant with his baby when his ship blew up and killed millions of people including his pregnant wife. The Hulk was pissed about being sent into space and now he's SUPER pissed and on his way back to Earth. He gets to Earth in WWH I.
kwok_talk
06-15-2007, 01:37 PM
Did anyone pick up the Avengers: Earth’s Mightiest Heroes? I’m not really into the vintage Avengers stuff, but just curious what others thought.
kwok_talk
06-15-2007, 01:38 PM
Hey Kwok,
Regarding the art in New X-men, Scottie says he was able to ink his own work this issue, and was much happier with it.
Perhaps that's why you enjoyed it more.
Hm…Cool insight. I’ll have to dig out the prior issues to compare.
acomicbookgirl
06-15-2007, 01:50 PM
Probably not. I'm buying some of them but not all of them. I'd say that WWH and IH will probably be most important. There are some others that look interesting like Gamma Corps and Front Line but they're likely not required reading.
Incredible Hulk #106 from 3 or 4 weeks ago would also help to catch you up. It's not really very complex though. The Illuminati sent the Hulk into space because he destroyed Las Vegas. He ended up on the wrong planet. It was inhabited. He became a slave and then earned his freedom as a gladiator. He eventually led his warbound to take back their planet from their oppressors and became their king. He married a local woman and she was pregnant with his baby when his ship blew up and killed millions of people including his pregnant wife. The Hulk was pissed about being sent into space and now he's SUPER pissed and on his way back to Earth. He gets to Earth in WWH I.
Ok. Thanks. :) Damn it and I just gave my CBG my order..
Labor_Days
06-15-2007, 04:30 PM
Anyone reading Trials Of Shazam? I've caught up and it's a blast. Who knew Freddy was such a fun character. (Dig that note he left for Mary in the hospitial during Countdown? Poor girl.)
I haven't ever read it. It's good? That's cool. Maybe I'll check it out.
kahunablair
06-15-2007, 04:38 PM
Anyone reading Trials Of Shazam? I've caught up and it's a blast. Who knew Freddy was such a fun character. (Dig that note he left for Mary in the hospitial during Countdown? Poor girl.)
I'm going to agree here. I've enjoyed pretty much every issue of this run. Love the art, and the story.
Labor_Days
06-15-2007, 04:45 PM
I haven't ever read it. It's good? That's cool. Maybe I'll check it out.
Yeah, it's good. Freddy basically meets the various incarnations of the Shazam powers (Achilles and Hercules were great!) and performs various...um, trials. They're really deepening the Shazam mythos and it's not too time-consuming a read either. Art is nice too.
sounds kind of interesting
there is a new yourcomicsucks forthcoming
part 4
kwok_talk
06-15-2007, 07:44 PM
there is a new yourcomicsucks forthcoming
part 4
Yeah diggity dog. Look forward to it.
thanks. I'm about 1/3 done. The book will be a controversial selection.
kwok_talk
06-15-2007, 07:46 PM
thanks. I'm about 1/3 done. The book will be a controversial selection.
I'm guessing New Warriors? ;)
I don't know. I'm not sure how to play this.
paper
06-15-2007, 08:17 PM
Is it Origins?
I don't know
//whips potential frenzy
Labor_Days
06-15-2007, 08:55 PM
For some reason, I was under the impression that New Warriors was being somewhat well received. Haven't checked it out myself, not too interested really. But that was the impression I got from the scant reviews I've read of New Warriors.
For some reason, I was under the impression that New Warriors was being somewhat well received. Haven't checked it out myself, not too interested really. But that was the impression I got from the scant reviews I've read of New Warriors.
It blew. It was seriously bad.
kwok_talk
06-15-2007, 09:11 PM
I enjoyed New Warriors. (Still looking forward to the yourcomicsucks though)
Labor_Days
06-15-2007, 09:31 PM
It blew. It was seriously bad.
Well, I'll take your word for it. As I said, I'm not terribly interested in the book anyways. Funny thing is I was quite excited for the state of the MU when Cap bit the bullet and CW finally ended. But I got to say, a lot of the post-CW storylines & books haven't really captured my imagination.
In fact, I'm buying less and less Marvel these days. Hmm. Maybe it's just me though. Perhaps things will change in a month or two.
In fact, I'm buying less and less Marvel these days. Hmm. Maybe it's just me though. Perhaps things will change in a month or two.
It's not just you. I'm reading nearly 50% less Marvel than I did 3 months ago and probably about 50% more DC.
I enjoyed New Warriors. (Still looking forward to the yourcomicsucks though)
I've never definitively said that I was doing that. ;)
I'm being coy. It's a text medium, so I'm pointing it out.
AlexG
06-16-2007, 01:10 AM
Hey fred, I'm way late to the game this week-work has been hellonwheelz lately-but wanted to say great reviews as always.
I had a super light week and read all my books to and from work on the subway, but I liked every single book I had. Even New Avengers. Although, I gotta say, I think I understand why people didn't like Clone Saga as it came out. I feel like this Ninja fight has been going on for MONTHS now. That's one thing about this decompression business, it reads really well in a trade, but to wait a month for the next 3 minutes of story time is a bit much.
Favorite book for me? Easy--HULK SMASH!!!!!
thanks Alex. I'm more positive now about NA than I was on Wednesday.
WWH was awesome.
AlexG
06-16-2007, 02:04 AM
I liked NA, but I just wish Bendis would pick up the pace once in a while.
Hell, I even liked Treasure Island, eventhough it was nowhere near as good as the Last of the Mohicans comic
Labor_Days
06-16-2007, 02:06 AM
Dude, that ninja fight in New Avengers has been going on for months.
5 months if you're counting
Labor_Days
06-16-2007, 02:46 AM
Most likely New Avengers is going to read better in trades. I for one am moving over to trades on NA and few other books. The monthlies are bringing me down.
it's all too interconnected for me to be able to move to trades. The Avengers books seem to be one of the centers of the U right now.
JGG0610
06-16-2007, 03:07 AM
it's all too interconnected for me to be able to move to trades. The Avengers books seem to be one of the centers of the U right now.
Better NA than any X-Book.
I'm not complaining. I'm saying that I think it would be difficult to keep up without the Avengers books.
JGG0610
06-16-2007, 03:19 AM
I'm not complaining. I'm saying that I think it would be difficult to keep up without the Avengers books.
Couldn't agree more. That's why it's been really nice in DC the last year or so. If you read 52 and now Countdown, you can keep up with the major goings on in the universe.
Labor_Days
06-16-2007, 03:26 AM
I'm saying that I think it would be difficult to keep up without the Avengers books.Really? I don't feel like I am getting any "crucial info" regarding the wider MU out of NA. Mighty, I am still enjoying. NA, not so much.
The Initiative is also an Avengers book
1) They're launching the skrull thing from there
2) all of the CW major players were in the NA
3) all of the post-CW majors players are in NA or MA
4) I'm tired and tapped out of reasons but they're there
Labor_Days
06-16-2007, 03:57 AM
I never bothered picking up CW: Initiative #2. Couldn't drum up any interest in it either.
MA & NA proper really haven't fleshed out the MU post-CW for me. I may as well be reading Iron Man, ASM or Ms. Marvel for all the highlighting of the MU corners and "new" status quo they're doing in NA/MA. I suppose my tune would be different if I were reading any of those books- but I am not.
I just don't feel like I'm missing anything that the recap page can't fix.
I can see what you're saying.
paper
06-16-2007, 11:37 AM
I need the next arc to get going in either series. MA has had like two story beats. Let's keep it moving.
two luscious silver story beats
so I just got the weirdest email ever and I'm pasting it below:
subject: Contest for SiP Fans from Criminal Records in Atlanta, GA
message:
We're having a contest I thought all of you Strangers in Paradise fans might be interested in. Send a picture of yourself scantily clad with a gun, and the best photograph will receive the Katchoo in Bathtub statue. This piece was hand painted and limited to 2500 pieces. Mind you, the best photograph, not necessarily the prettiest. Send your entries to [email removed]. The winner will be picked June 30th.
James
Criminal Records Comic Dept.
So I can get a free statue if I send this perv a scantily-clad picture of myself with a gun? nice
acomicbookgirl
06-16-2007, 02:43 PM
Are you kidding me? I haven't gotten one in ages.. Crap I just jinxed myself..
Labor_Days
06-16-2007, 02:49 PM
so I just got the weirdest email ever and I'm pasting it below:
subject: Contest for SiP Fans from Criminal Records in Atlanta, GA
message:
We're having a contest I thought all of you Strangers in Paradise fans might be interested in. Send a picture of yourself scantily clad with a gun, and the best photograph will receive the Katchoo in Bathtub statue. This piece was hand painted and limited to 2500 pieces. Mind you, the best photograph, not necessarily the prettiest. Send your entries to [email removed]. The winner will be picked June 30th.
James
Criminal Records Comic Dept.
So I can get a free statue if I send this perv a scantily-clad picture of myself with a gun? nice
Go for it, Fred. It's not like you haven't sent scantily clad pictures of yourself in the mail before.
iSteve
06-16-2007, 02:58 PM
so I just got the weirdest email ever and I'm pasting it below:
subject: Contest for SiP Fans from Criminal Records in Atlanta, GA
message:
We're having a contest I thought all of you Strangers in Paradise fans might be interested in. Send a picture of yourself scantily clad with a gun, and the best photograph will receive the Katchoo in Bathtub statue. This piece was hand painted and limited to 2500 pieces. Mind you, the best photograph, not necessarily the prettiest. Send your entries to [email removed]. The winner will be picked June 30th.
James
Criminal Records Comic Dept.
So I can get a free statue if I send this perv a scantily-clad picture of myself with a gun? nice
What the hey??? I got the same e-mail. Deleted it.
Go for it, Fred. It's not like you haven't sent scantily clad pictures of yourself in the mail before.
look there was that thing with the g-string, but the guy is the ****ing pope - he should be able to take a joke
acomicbookgirl
06-16-2007, 05:49 PM
What the hey??? I got the same e-mail. Deleted it.
I didn't get one.. I feel left out.. :rolleyes:
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u116/fredhosley/bikiniFRED.gif
kahunablair
06-16-2007, 06:21 PM
Fred, after looking at that picture, I may ask you to marry me!
kwok_talk
06-16-2007, 06:28 PM
No force on earth would be able to stop an army of that.
Fred, after looking at that picture, I may ask you to marry me!
you're going to have to fight g. gordan litty for me
link to article making fun of Liddy's Girls and Guns calendar (http://www.somethingawful.com/d/fashion-swat/fashion-liddy-babes.php)
kahunablair
06-16-2007, 07:53 PM
you're going to have to fight g. gordan litty for me
In that case, I wish the two of you the best, and I'll be buying you a toaster and a gun rack for an engagement gift.
thanks anyway, but we've already got a nice rack
acomicbookgirl
06-16-2007, 08:41 PM
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u116/fredhosley/bikiniFRED.gif
Ay Fred.. I look at you in a different light now.. ;)
Labor_Days
06-17-2007, 03:42 PM
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u116/fredhosley/bikiniFRED.gif
That Katchoo statute is as good as yours now.
frickin better be - I got poison oak on that shoot
Labor_Days
06-17-2007, 09:45 PM
I got poison oak on that shoot
I'd ask where at exactly but am afraid of the answer...
paper
06-17-2007, 09:46 PM
In the woods obviously.
Labor_Days
06-17-2007, 09:48 PM
Duh, obviously.
Hey is it just me or does Fred look like a sexy Greg Norton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Norton) of Husker Du in that pic?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c3/Gregnorton.JPG
it's just you - except the sexy part - everyone thinks that
I'd ask where at exactly but am afraid of the answer...
it rhymes with paint
Ekval
06-18-2007, 01:23 PM
I would agree with others that the NA ninja fight is just dragging on. And I was underwhelmed by the reveal, and really, the whole issue for that matter.
Fables was awesome as usual, even though I'd prefer to read it in trades, I can't resist it.
Countdown...hmmm...I might be blasphemous here, but it really hasn't been very good at all so far for me. It started out mediocre and has only gotten worse, though I'd agree that the art wasn't quite as bad as the last one.
On the other hand, I picked up a Walking Dead trade...glad I picked up on that here.
paper
06-18-2007, 07:06 PM
In anticipation of Green Arrow: Year One, I've decided to start on the modern GA books. Just ordered Kevin Smith's first volume Quiver.
Mikegraham6
06-18-2007, 07:10 PM
In anticipation of Green Arrow: Year One, I've decided to start on the modern GA books. Just ordered Kevin Smith's first volume Quiver.
great book, i enjoyed it the most out of any of Smith's stuff. It made me love the GA character
The newest GA volume is awesome. It starts with a bang in Quiver.
from LITG
BOOM CHIKKA WAA WAA
I hear word of a Luke Cage/Misty Knight series for Marvel created as a seventies period piece on the way, complete with canary yellow outfit and tiara. Has someone been watching too much "Jackie Brown?" Is that possible?
sounds pretty cool to me
iSteve
06-19-2007, 02:57 PM
I've waited over a year, but now that I have all 12 issues of Justice, I'm ready to read the mini-series. Hope it was worth the wait.
Mikegraham6
06-19-2007, 03:00 PM
I've waited over a year, but now that I have all 12 issues of Justice, I'm ready to read the mini-series. Hope it was worth the wait.
i think that book will read MUCH better as a whole, i hope to break out the entire run and read it one sitting now, because i found the scheduling (and DC's lack of recap page) hurt my overall enjoyment of the series. i had a hard time following what was going on
I've read the first 8 or so but the schedule was too much. I'm up for reading it now as well. It was good up to the point that I read.
paper
06-19-2007, 03:08 PM
RE: Luke Cage/Misty Knight retro series
Sounds great. I'd give it a shot.
if only for the old costume alone, I'm mildly excited for it
Let us know how Justice reads as a single piece, I'm curious.
I certainly enjoyed it but I agree, I'd wager it'd seem best in some sort of Hardcover.
And Paper!! Dropping JLA! Can't stick out one issue to find out the end of the Lightning Saga? Maybe it'll even reveal what the hell's going on...
paper
06-19-2007, 03:16 PM
Yeah, I'm done with the JLA. I'm excited for the new JSA arc more than anything. Back to business next month.
paper
06-19-2007, 03:20 PM
I don't want to do a whole review on it, but I didn't enjoy Kingdom Come as much as I'd hoped. It took me a couple days to get through it, and I kept getting bored with it. I think it's a combination of the art and the very lofty dialogue. It's a neat idea, and I respect the book, but it's a little too serious for my liking. I liked the last scene though.
Mikegraham6
06-19-2007, 03:29 PM
I don't want to do a whole review on it, but I didn't enjoy Kingdom Come as much as I'd hoped. It took me a couple days to get through it, and I kept getting bored with it. I think it's a combination of the art and the very lofty dialogue. It's a neat idea, and I respect the book, but it's a little too serious for my liking. I liked the last scene though.
i with you on Kingdom Come, i also wont go into it here, but i posted my thoughts on this book in the "Dark Knight Returns: One of the all time great works in comics?" thread
Yeah, I'm done with the JLA. I'm excited for the new JSA arc more than anything. Back to business next month.
I'm downloading issue #10 of JLA and I'll read it to get the end of the Lightning Saga. I refuse to pay money for it though. The cover sickens me.
Is this the infamous Power Girl cover? (I like how it's been said this is the SMALLER chested version.)
I read The Agency by Paul Jenkins over the weekend and it was cool. It was very dated and very much a product of the the late '90s. It reminded me in some ways of The Net with Sandra Bullock. It wasn't the plot that reminded me of it, it was the ridiculous techno-fear and babble of it. It was more good than bad though and I had a good time. I don't know that I'd recommend it to people, but I wouldn't recommend that you don't read it either. take that for what it's worth
Is this the infamous Power Girl cover? (I like how it's been said this is the SMALLER chested version.)
yes it is. did they reduce it since it was solicited?
No Turner had to reduce it before they solicited...but somewhere out there...
it was ****ing BIGGER??????????????????????????
Apparently. Wacky eh? (pun intended).
I don't get the pun. Is there a Candian breast slang word I'm unaware of?
ah. learn something new everyday
thanks
paper
06-19-2007, 03:54 PM
The future of JSA is confusing me. We get two in July, and then a prologue in September with the same cover as the previous one (i'm wondering if it's just a placeholder because the real cover is a surprise, given the synopsis). Oh, and Fred, check out the synopsis of #9.
http://www.dccomics.com/comics/?cm=7826
Mikegraham6
06-19-2007, 03:55 PM
Heavy on the "whack".
"wank"??????:confused:
The future of JSA is confusing me. We get two in July, and then a prologue in September with the same cover as the previous one (i'm wondering if it's just a placeholder because the real cover is a surprise, given the synopsis). Oh, and Fred, check out the synopsis of #9.
http://www.dccomics.com/comics/?cm=7826
Criminy!!!!!!!! A firehouse pancake breakfast. Kick ass.
or you meant the Wildcat vs Wildcat fight which seems to be an asskicking issue waiting to happen.
paper
06-19-2007, 03:57 PM
It looks like JSA is back on track.
I just wish it wasn't skipping over my birthday month.
"wank"??????:confused:
Really? I've got to explain this one?
Man I suck.
No one's heard of Whacking off. Really?
have you seen the NAHflack commercials with the goat?
Really? I've got to explain this one?
Man I suck.
No one's heard of Whacking off. Really?
yup. just a different usage
Pretty sure it's the same, I meant such a Breast heavy cover would be "wacky".
And scene.
DarrOn
06-19-2007, 04:23 PM
Just to let everyone know, because I know he's SUCH a popular character here, but Penance is getting his own mini series! Yay!
From IGN.com;
PENANCE: RELENTLESS #1 (of 5)
Written by PAUL JENKINS
Pencils and Cover by PAUL GULACY
From the pages of Civil War: Front Line and Thunderbolts! Once he was a hero, now only a shell of Robbie Baldwin remains. As Penance, he begins a slow descent into madness: the most hated man in America, blamed for the disaster at Stamford, tortured by visions of his failure and obsessed with strange, seemingly meaningless numbers. A relentless pursuit begins...
Ugh. I just....ugh.
paper
06-19-2007, 04:28 PM
That actually sounds really funny.
Mikegraham6
06-19-2007, 04:35 PM
i dunno, the penance thing could work, but it would have to be done by a good writer and not some hack. i never had any attachment to speedball but im assuming a lot of this penance hate stems from the fact that he used to be such a happy go lucky character and now he is dark and brooding.
I might give this mini a shot after hearing what people think of the first issue
paper
06-19-2007, 04:39 PM
I think the hate, and I'm being totally honest here, comes from the idea being so incredibly dumb.
That's what I'm getting from all the Penance conversation.
DarrOn
06-19-2007, 04:40 PM
i dunno, the penance thing could work, but it would have to be done by a good writer and not some hack. i never had any attachment to speedball but im assuming a lot of this penance hate stems from the fact that he used to be such a happy go lucky character and now he is dark and brooding.
I can't speak for everyone, but personally, it just seems like a lame character to me. From costume design to the actual development of the character thus far, it's just been bad. He's pointless. I have no affiliation with Speedball whats-so-ever, so I didn't mind him turnin to Penance...but he hasn't been used AT ALL yet.
paper
06-19-2007, 04:42 PM
He had his moment in Nova last week, but that's about it.
Mikegraham6
06-19-2007, 04:43 PM
I think the hate, and I'm being totally honest here, comes from the idea being so incredibly dumb.
That's what I'm getting from all the Penance conversation.
the only thing i found dumb about the whole penance thing was the fact that Speedball did a complete 180 in one issue of Frontline. In terms of his characterization, he went from pleading his inocence to accepting full responsability in the matter of a few pages. It was sloppy, and the character hasn't been handled well in any other books i've read (you never see him in Thunderbolts and he was barely used in Nova) but i still think there is interesting story potential to the character if handled correctly
DarrOn
06-19-2007, 04:43 PM
He had his moment in Nova last week, but that's about it.
I have Nova, but still haven't read it. That or Countdown. Whoops.
From IGN.com;
PENANCE: RELENTLESS #1 (of 5)
Written by PAUL JENKINS
Pencils and Cover by PAUL GULACY
.
WOw, Paul Gulacy, where the hell have you been...
paper
06-19-2007, 04:45 PM
I have Nova, but still haven't read it. That or Countdown. Whoops.
Two solid books.
DarrOn
06-19-2007, 04:47 PM
Two solid books.
I'm sure, it's only because I got disturbed while reading my books last Thursday, and still haven't gone back and finished.
Mikegraham6
06-19-2007, 04:47 PM
PENANCE: RELENTLESS #1 (of 5)
Written by PAUL JENKINS
Just noticed this.....
i will be avoiding this series like the plague
I think that it could be cool
paper
06-19-2007, 05:20 PM
............Really?
yup. that's just the way I roll
you know - odd declarative statement with nothing to support it
kwok_talk
06-19-2007, 05:22 PM
I almost want to check it out b/c I hate the character so much.
it could be cool. it really could. Everyone hates him and he's hardly had any dialogue since he was created. Ellis clearly hates him. I think it would be easy to imagine that Penance was pushed on him for TBolts. He just doesn't write him at all. It's ridiculous.
Mikegraham6
06-19-2007, 06:43 PM
it could be cool. it really could. Everyone hates him and he's hardly had any dialogue since he was created. Ellis clearly hates him. I think it would be easy to imagine that Penance was pushed on him for TBolts. He just doesn't write him at all. It's ridiculous.
I agree with you Fred, Ellis obvious doesn't want any part of him. but i lose confidence in this book when i see Jenkins is writing it. he's the one who hastly threw him together in one issue of frontline. but i might just wait and let you test the waters and base my purchase on your review....
here's the thing: Jenkins doesn't always suck. Occasionally, Jenkins sucks and sucks hard BUTTTTTTTTTT
Sidekick was good
I've heard great things about The Inhumans
The Agency is good
here's the thing: Jenkins doesn't always suck. Occasionally, Jenkins sucks and sucks hard BUTTTTTTTTTT
Sidekick was good
I've heard great things about The Inhumans
The Agency is good
ANd as much as the character is maligned round these parts that first sentry series was awesome. (Art by Jae Lee!!!!)