Folding@home

[migit109]

Does Revision3 or digg have a folding@home team?

[bird603568]

not that i know of but hackaday does http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=44851

[nextgenxbox]

What's f@a ? Explain por favor.

[dkasler]

What's f@a ? Explain por favor.

It's a distributed computing project that studies protein folding.

[nextgenxbox]

It's a distributed computing project that studies protein folding.

I see. And what's protein folding? =)

[migit109]

Its kinda complex if you go to the folding@home website it explains it better than i ever could

[mathwhiz]

Is there interest in havnig a Revision3 folding@home team? I'm currently part of the DL.TV team, but since that show has gone by the wayside, I'd like to support a Revision3 team, but there isn't one yet.

Rich

[guytheninja]

I see. And what's protein folding? =)

http://folding.stanford.edu/

Think of it as protein assembling.

[icu]

http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?teamnum=82789&qtype=teampage

http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8555

Hey look at these two awesome future Rev3 hosts - this is where I first heard about it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ1XuOgknuE

There's another similar project which does a similar distributed computing projects, but to my knowledge none of them involve pimping TRS - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_distributed_computing_projects

[cabster21]

Hak5 does, here's Famicoman's post from their forums.

Team Number - 51258
Stats Page - Here (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=51258)
Detailed Stats Page - Here (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=51258)
Client Download - Here (http://folding.stanford.edu/download.html)
Wiki - Here (http://wiki.hak5.org/wiki/Folding@Hak5)
IRC - irc://irc.hak5.org/hak5 -- Ask for Famicoman

Who: The Hak5 Community, with all of their infinite wisdom and processing power.

What: A Folding@Home team. The Stanford Folding@Home project is one of distributed computing. The Stanford servers send your computer "work units". These units, also known as proteins, are then folded using excess cycles from your processor, designed not to disrupt whatever you are currently doing. The project aims to see how proteins fold, how they misfold, and ultimately how to help with the diseases this misfolding causes.

When: 24/7 or however long you wish to participate in the group. The client works best when you let it do its thing without turning off your computer. The project is open to anyone willing to join the team, always. If you want to fold, we can hook you up.

Where: Your computer! Your computer(s), work computer, servers, BBSs, PBXs, etc. Just about any computer can fold a unit on a variety of operating systems. There are also standalone clients for things such as your Sony Playstation 3.

Why: Through the use of the Folding@Home project, more research can be done into diseases affecting many people. By understanding how proteins fold and how some misfold, more information becomes available on how to fix and prevent problems caused by misfolds.

How: Simply download the client from the link above for your operating system of choice, enter in a name for yourself, and the Hak5 team number 51258 where appropriate and let the client do its work. Its all that simple.

[mathwhiz]

Thanks for the info on the Hak5 team - since there doesn't seem interested in a general Revision3 team - I'll join the Hak5 team - since DL.TV is dead. (the show, not the team)

[gimpbully]

maybe i'll put up some time on the big iron and put it toward hak5's team. Is there a headless linux version? I could probably submit an hour or two job on 64 nodes or so. Hell, I could call it benchmarking and jack it up to 200.

[guytheninja]

maybe i'll put up some time on the big iron and put it toward hak5's team. Is there a headless linux version? I could probably submit an hour or two job on 64 nodes or so. Hell, I could call it benchmarking and jack it up to 200.

The Ubuntu community has a gzipped tarball that is very self explanatory. you don't even have to use rc.local or make your own init.d script.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FoldingAtHome/fah_install

All you have to do is just check the FAHlog.txt and unitinfo.txt files via ssh to view its progress.

Also, if you install as root (which I do) it will put the files in /opt.

[gimpbully]

So I got a headless version direct from FAH, but is this really limited to 16 machines under the same account? That's a bit... limiting..

Beyond that, it claims to use mpi... does anyone know if it supports mpi across multiple nodes or just across multiple cores within the same node?
The Ubuntu community has a gzipped tarball that is very self explanatory. you don't even have to use rc.local or make your own init.d script.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FoldingAtHome/fah_install

All you have to do is just check the FAHlog.txt and unitinfo.txt files via ssh to view its progress.

Also, if you install as root (which I do) it will put the files in /opt.

[guytheninja]

So I got a headless version direct from FAH, but is this really limited to 16 machines under the same account? That's a bit... limiting..

Beyond that, it claims to use mpi... does anyone know if it supports mpi across multiple nodes or just across multiple cores within the same node?

I wouldn't let the Machine ID discourage you. I mean, look at this guy:
http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=userpage&teamnum=3074&username=OC-AMD
He has 54 processors active within 7 days and 102 active within 50 days.

Machine ID, IMO, should be called CPU ID or Core ID.


At the bottom of this page is an option that is very important called "Machine ID." This must be set as a unique number from the rest of the Folding@Home clients installed on your PC. I personally used 3.

http://www.xcpus.com/folding/foldingguidegpu2.aspx

So Machine ID is only important when you are running multiple foldingathome daemons because you have multiple CPUs or cores on one machine.

All my current folding@home computers only have one CPU, so each folding@home client uses a machine ID of 1, but they all have the same account name and team #.

[gimpbully]

hm, okay. These are dual harpertown nodes, so the math works out to 64*2*4=512 cores (128 physical procs). It would make things infinitely easier if this were real MPI code, but i guess I just have to do some trial and error work to figure out the best way to set this up.
edit: oh! i get what you're pointing at, if i'm pinning a process to both a GPU and a single proc within a single machine, I'd have two binaries running and thus want to set machineid to 1 on the cpu and 2 on the gpu. thanks for the clarification.
I wouldn't let the Machine ID discourage you. I mean, look at this guy:
http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=userpage&teamnum=3074&username=OC-AMD
He has 54 processors active within 7 days and 102 active within 50 days.

Machine ID, IMO, should be called CPU ID or Core ID.



http://www.xcpus.com/folding/foldingguidegpu2.aspx

So Machine ID is only important when you are running multiple foldingathome daemons because you have multiple CPUs or cores on one machine.

All my current folding@home computers only have one CPU, so each folding@home client uses a machine ID of 1, but they all have the same account name and team #.

[icu]

What I posted was a TRS team not a DL.TV team btw. It's all good - we should all join forces.

[mathwhiz]

I agree - it would be great to have a Revision3 team to cover all Revision3 shows. If it was promoted and talked about on the shows like it was with DL.TV - we could have a very strong team and rise to power! :) I'd be willing to create a Revision3 team, but don't want to put in the effort if it won't be popular or known.

[computoman]

I wonder if it would run on pelicanhpc and then the number of machines would not matter.

[guytheninja]

Hey guys, I have some news for you. The Hak5 team is now the MintIRC team.
http://kakaostats.com/t.php?t=51258

According to a Hak5 administrator named moonlit, MintIRC and Hak5 have respectfully parted ways.

I do think the DNS alteration should've been handled better, but it's done now, MintIRC and Hak5 have officially parted ways, and I think it's probably for the best, no more of the aforementioned discussions or debates to be misunderstood or irritated by, and everyone knows where they stand.
http://hak5.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=14306

Because of this I am no longer part of this team. I would join the TRS team, but I never watch the show. (I watch Hak5 from time to time).

So, I have decided to join the TWIT/Leoville team from this point forward.
http://kakaostats.com/t.php?t=35054

If you guys decide to make a Rev3 team, just send me a PM and I'll join. (I don't care about rankings all that much.)

[mathwhiz]

Great - now I'll have to find another team to join and start climbing stats again (I don't really care about stats either.) I would just start a Revision 3 team, but don't want to use their name/logo without permission. Guess I'll have to email them since they didn't respond to my tweet.

And plus, Tekzilla mentioned F@H on their show, didn't really say much.

Rich

[mathwhiz]

I've created a Revision3Fans team for Folding@Home. It's team 171563. So join in and let's make the Revison3Fans team great! (While I was creating this team I did stumble on an inactive Revision3 team, but stuck with my new team).

[guytheninja]

I've created a Revision3Fans team for Folding@Home. It's team 171563. So join in and let's make the Revison3Fans team great! (While I was creating this team I did stumble on an inactive Revision3 team, but stuck with my new team).

I joined, but it will take me a while to show up.

[mathwhiz]

Welcome to the team - I'll look forward to seeing you in the stats!

[guytheninja]

Hey guys,
According to FAHmon, all my computers will contribute around 700 PPD to the Revision3Fans team. I've spent around 200 dollars total fixing up all these old machines. They range from Pentium III's at 500 Mhz to a Celeron at 2.2 Ghz. It may be time to retire some of the old faithfuls in the next year. I'll keep them, but use them for other purposes in the future.

Anyway, I want to buy some hardware either this or next year. What is the fastest hardware that gives the most bang for the buck? I don't want to spend as much money as this guy :D.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjOW5iW7dJQ&feature=channel_page

And, I would like to stay in the CPU arena because I would like to run all the cores from FoldingAtHome.

What sort of advice do you guys have?

[mathwhiz]

I don't know too much about the best hardware for F@H. I've learned enough to get it running on my machines. From what I've read though graphics cards get the most PPD, with Nvidia cards doing better than ATI. I use ATI. A lot more information is available at http://foldingforum.org

Rich

[guytheninja]

Thanks for the link. I found some interesting computer setups on those forums. Those guys are quite competitive.

payton, i am a rookie here, i fold on 2 iMacs and a PS3 (Playstation3), my 80GB PS3 runs 24/7 i mostly get 1000ppd but sometimes get only 750 ppd, it takes up almost no room on my tv stand and uses very little power, you would have to run 10 pentium3 desktops/towers to get 700ppd, can 1 electric outlet circuit handle 10 desktops? the PS3 would probably pay for itself in electricity savings very quickly. i love my old computers, i still have my tandy 1000 sx (IBM AT compatible) it runs at 7 mhz and has a 360k 5 1/4" floppy drive BUT I WOULD NEVER FOLD WITH IT, or even plug it in :mrgreen: a pentium3 computer is as useless for folding as an 8 track player is for music, sorry
http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=10568&start=15

Ouch! I have two folding computers with Pentium III CPU's in them. One has dual CPU's. They can make the WU deadline, but they aren't the fastest things on the planet. (They finish around 7-8 days).

Since around 2002-2003, I've folded on outdated machines that my dad gave me from his small business. Back then I had a computer with 32MB of RAM, and it had a Cyrix 686 P-120 CPU. It was similar to a Pentium 100-120Mhz.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrix_6x86

I installed FoldingAtHome on it and it was slower than heck and couldn't make the WU deadline. Now that is what I consider to be useless hardware (when it comes to folding):D.

[mathwhiz]

Found this other site with info about how to get F@H going - http://en.fah-addict.net/news/news.php

Spread the word about our team - 3 members so far.

[jackierulesall]

We're currently working on the official Rev3 F@H team.

[mathwhiz]

Now you tell me after creating a team and getting people to join - oh well - what's a fourth team to start working for? Would have been nice to have been told this one of the many times I contacted Revision3 about having a team.

If the team doesn't exist yet and you want to use the team I created I have no problems turning it over.

[guytheninja]

We're currently working on the official Rev3 F@H team.

When will the official Rev3 F@H site be available?


what's a fourth team to start working for? Would have been nice to have been told this one of the many times I contacted Revision3 about having a team.

Seriously, Rev3 should have created a team 4 years ago.

[guytheninja]

We're currently working on the official Rev3 F@H team.

Maybe you guys could also create a forum for this team? (hint hint) :D

[mathwhiz]

Any updates on the official team - still hope we can turn the one I created into the official team so the 4 of us on it won't have to start again.

If anyone wants to join the Revision3Fans team I created, just join team 171563 in your config settings of your Folding@Home client.

team webpage: http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=171563

Thanks!

Rich

[guytheninja]

I don't think this official team will ever exist. I'm not going to believe it until Jim Louderback gets on here and says so.

[mathwhiz]

If there is never an official team - I'm fine with that. I'd just love to see the Revision3Fans team grow. I'm just not sure how to reach people to let them know.

[guytheninja]

I think this team will start growing when it gets into the top 1000. I'm pretty sure that most of the folding guys that check the boards know what Revision3 is.

[meatball]

Any new news on this? I think there's a few teams out there doing work unofficially for Rev 3 or it's shows. Would be great to get an official team up and running and have everyone join forces :)

[mathwhiz]

I haven't heard anything about this. The team I'm on (#171563) is currently #2269. I just keep plugging along with a few other people on this team.

Rich

[mathwhiz]

I haven't heard anything about this. The team I'm on (#171563) is currently #2269. I just keep plugging along with a few other people on this team.

Rich

This small team is still moving along slowly - would be great to get a few more members and really move up. Wonder how the official team they said was coming months ago is coming along.

Rich

[mathwhiz]

Just a bump to this thread for people looking for a Revision 3 team to join - I invite you to join the Revion3Fans teams - http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=171563

Still slowly climbing the stats - I'm sure we'd grow huge if we got a mention on a show - Robert and Patrick keep hinting at it - in fact asked on twitter if they should create a new team or use the old DL.TV team and rename it - I told them again about this team - hope they listen!

Rich