Episode 1: The Inaugural Show [Discussion] [Archive]

chuckles

07-26-2007, 03:54 AM

It's the very first episode of The GigaOM Show! Our esteemed hosts Om Malik and Joyce Kim get the party started off right with this week's top Hitlines ('cause you know it's all about the traffic with the GigaOM crowd). They also get cozy with HOTorNOT.com's James Hong to find out how his company's keeping up with the Facebooks of the Web 2.0 scene. Plus, what's on Seagate CEO Bill Watkins' hard drive? The answer may surprise you! Om and Joyce get his expert take on Seagate's success. All that, plus a whole lotta business savvy, this week and every week, on The GigaOM Show!

miyamotofreak

07-26-2007, 04:04 AM

This show doesn't seem to fit in with the rest (a lot more mainstream but Om is awesome!)

tokenuser

07-26-2007, 04:27 AM

Waiting for the show to appear in iTunes ....

bayareaking510

07-26-2007, 04:33 AM

This show's weird. I mean, I don't know if the hosts are a good fit.

And who the hell are these people anyways?

tokenuser

07-26-2007, 04:39 AM

And who the hell are these people anyways?Om has the credibility (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Om_Malik) I think you are looking for. See what he is all about over at GigaOm (http://gigaom.com/).

ubergmr

07-26-2007, 04:39 AM

i think this image http://revision3.com/static/images/shows/gigaom/inaugural/screenshot.jpg is a little big to use for the thumbnail

logant

07-26-2007, 04:42 AM

This show's weird. I mean, I don't know if the hosts are a good fit.

And who the hell are these people anyways?

www.gigaom.com

It's like Valleywag.

abjure

07-26-2007, 04:59 AM

I really liked the show actually! They had some awesome guests and Om really tells it like it is. I like where this show is going.

logant

07-26-2007, 05:01 AM

Yeah I'm really interested in what's going on in the Valley.

el-carbonite

07-26-2007, 05:13 AM

I love the theme music and intro! Nice work Rev3! I'm subscribing as soon as it hits iTunes!

vahnx

07-26-2007, 05:15 AM

Woah, Ramzi's dad is now on Rev3! O.O

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/4860/ramzidadfg0.png

miyamotofreak

07-26-2007, 05:26 AM

Woah, Ramzi's dad is now on Rev3! O.O

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/4860/ramzidadfg0.png

:( Dude Ramzi was not indian. That's just racist.

vladk1000

07-26-2007, 05:27 AM

Om sounds a bit like Ramzi.

Bret

07-26-2007, 05:28 AM

I do have respect for OM, and as smart as he is I CANNOT for the life of me stand listening to him. But thats what great about IPTV, i dont have to download it.

oguy

07-26-2007, 05:36 AM

cool, he's been on crankygeeks a few times and I've always wanted to hear more from him, fairly interesting show, especially the guests.

vahnx

07-26-2007, 05:41 AM

:( Dude Ramzi was not indian. That's just racist.

; (

Didn't mean for people to take it that way, they just look similar and I thought it would be kind of funny to point it out. They also do sound a tiny tiny bit similar.

logant

07-26-2007, 05:45 AM

Om sounds a bit like Ramzi.

Oh Jesus Christ get over it.

Bret

07-26-2007, 05:45 AM

i watched the first episode. despite Om's accent the show was pretty good. great guests. ill check it out every now and again

vahnx

07-26-2007, 05:48 AM

Oh Jesus Christ get over it.

O.o ***** o.O

logant

07-26-2007, 06:50 AM

O.o ***** o.O

It looks like miyamotofreak's comment was removed.

kactus

07-26-2007, 07:05 AM

Loved the show love hearing peoples opinions of todays tech world!

miyamotofreak

07-26-2007, 07:37 AM

It looks like miyamotofreak's comment was removed.
I still see it.

courseb

07-26-2007, 11:14 AM

nice start.. glad to see new shows on rev3!

keep the guests coming and i dig the decanter :)

blofeld07

07-26-2007, 03:44 PM

I wasn't interested in the guests this time, but I do think this could work. The camera needs to be panned right...... always. Please keep it a mid-week release.

chuckles

07-26-2007, 03:45 PM

Woah!! That was one serious party last night @ the DeYoung Museum to celebrate the launch. Good time had by all. Pictures and article here (http://laughingsquid.com/the-gigaom-show-launches-on-revision3/).

-chuckles-

njshadow

07-26-2007, 05:05 PM

Wow. Now THIS is what I'm talking about. Now THIS is a Revision3 show!!!! This show is definitely a step in the right direction and if any of the hosts read this thread, GREAT JOB GUYS! Oh yeah, and did anyone notice that they used the voice for the intro from TechTv. That used to be the voice of TechTv. :D:D:D:D

vahnx

07-26-2007, 07:14 PM

Oh yeah, and did anyone notice that they used the voice for the intro from TechTv. That used to be the voice of TechTv. :D:D:D:D

What's the voice of TechTv? What do you mean by that o.O

xelloss

07-26-2007, 07:21 PM

What's the voice of TechTv? What do you mean by that o.O

He means the guy that does the voice overs, watch the first seconds of the show thats "the voice". Kinda like the guy that does all the movie commercials.

axolotl

07-26-2007, 09:54 PM

Great show. I actually might like it more if the interviews were longer and 1 per episode, but still great. Also, did anyone else notice that Sarah Lane is listed as a producer of the show? Hopefully she'll get her own show soon.

ryudo

07-26-2007, 10:45 PM

I love the concept of this show but one guy is hard to understand sometimes and just throws his apple fanboyism like a smug jerk (like many of them out there) at the other host..Sarah Lane would be better as she is energetic easy to listen to and smart and knows her stuff.

Other people they can choose from as well ..just dump the one dude,this show has potential but I think it needs a new host.

But I am glad we have another tech related show on REV3.

sansaarai

07-26-2007, 11:17 PM

Can we get a Large Quicktime feed when it hits iTunes?

nelsonmaud

07-26-2007, 11:34 PM

loved the show now will have to see future shows.did like him on cranky geeks too:rolleyes::o

shmoo

07-27-2007, 12:19 AM

Great show, I love both the hosts! The pace was a bit fast for me, I wonder if that's just a pilot thing and everyone was a bit nervous. I'll keep watching for sure.

chuckles

07-27-2007, 12:31 AM

Can we get a Large Quicktime feed when it hits iTunes?

http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=260812543

chuckles

07-27-2007, 01:06 AM

More pictures from the launch party here (http://www.zooomr.com/photos/thomashawk/2781081/).

-chuckles-

logant

07-27-2007, 01:39 AM

[COLOR="DeepSkyBlue"]just dump the one dude,this show has potential but I think it needs a new host.

This "dude" is the show. Om Malik runs www.GigaOm.com. Get it GigaOm-Malik.

ryudo

07-27-2007, 02:21 AM

This "dude" is the show. Om Malik runs www.GigaOm.com. Get it GigaOm-Malik.
He still is hard to understand sometimes and is just not host material...he can still be behind the camera and run the show from all the content chosen for the show guests and such but someone more energetic and not so smug and can easily understand should be in front of the camera.

masherscf

07-27-2007, 03:04 AM

He still is hard to understand sometimes and is just not host material...he can still be behind the camera and run the show from all the content chosen for the show guests and such but someone more energetic and not so smug and can easily understand should be in front of the camera.

You are so wrong. There's more to on screen charm then perfect English diction. Om is fun to listen to and says really insightful things. Once you get over the fact that he sounds foreign, you should like him.

I downloaded gigaom to my cellphone.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1066/910201551_f2124ca0b1.jpg

ryudo

07-27-2007, 03:22 AM

Well considering I still liked the show and kept it show I plan to still watch but yeah maybe it will take sometime to get used to him...just the first impression was "this guy acts smug and bashed Joyce with his apple fanboyism (which is the big reason I get annoyed with apple fanboys) and can be tough to understand..but hey it's just a first episode and in time i am sure will hit full strides as like I keep saying has great potential.

What hit me first was the old Tech TV voice for than commercial and that awesome opening.:)

larmac1

07-27-2007, 04:52 AM

I really enjoyed this show, its up there with indigital as one of my favorite rev3 shows. I caught Sarah Lane in the credits... I'd love to see her in a few episodes (or her own show)

P.S. props on the tech tv voice!!

cl191

07-27-2007, 04:54 AM

Very interesting show!
Anyone else noticed Sarah Lane is one of the executive producers of the show?

hiveproductions

07-27-2007, 06:42 AM

I don't know what OM said the entire show... get someone else.... this seems like TWIT with a chick.... sorry guys.. they might have paid you or sold you on the show but they (OM and chick) do not pull it off.

--G

hiveproductions

07-27-2007, 06:46 AM

I just dont know what the difference is between selecting shows on tivo and downloading tv shows via torrents? either way I am not watching commercials and I am watching when I want to.
www.dontwatchme.com

logant

07-27-2007, 07:50 AM

Very interesting show!
Anyone else noticed Sarah Lane is one of the executive producers of the show?

Sarah Lane is now the Director or Production at Revision3.

shinobiwest

07-27-2007, 11:08 AM

gonna have to side with the sentiment that Om should not host. he may know what he's talking about but he's got a fairly flat on-screen presence and speaking voice. the hosts also weren't formally introduced as far as i know. doesn't help with the "who are these people?" feeling.

not feelin' the reverse numbered list format for the Hitlines graphic. would prefer just the title for the story at hand if you're going to discuss the point rather than just list the items. was, however, feelin' Om saying "that's how we roll" and "why you such a hater?" flashes of ramzi. also seemed to be a relatively competent 3-camera style, though a few reaction shots were missed, especially in the Hong segment.

overall, i feel the show lacks a unity of focus. diggnation gets away with chilling on a couch because it's part of the concept. if they're going to shoot in what looks to be Om's living room, i'd like to see them "own it!" as part of the show concept/feeling. is the vision a tech-news Dinner for Five? or are they just shooting here until Rev3's studio is ready?

"It is an industry that's somewhat cyclical," from the CEO of Seagate. i lol'd.

p.s. i think the rev3 logo needs to be smaller and colorless for the body of all shows.

sado

07-27-2007, 12:39 PM

The show itself is set up really great but Om down right should not host the show. There's just something a little off with him hosting the show. I would have to agree with shinobiwest on his screen presence and speaking voice as well.

masherscf

07-27-2007, 01:23 PM

"this guy acts smug and bashed Joyce with his apple fanboyism

I want you to think: "South-Asian Dvorak."

cocodapuf

07-27-2007, 01:48 PM

Well I think Om really seems to know his stuff, he's clearly an expert on the business side of things. I thought the Bill Watkins interview was wonderful, another smart guy who clearly knows his field. Om asked all the right questions and Joyce also had some great points, but there was still something missing. I think the show just seriously misses some amount of fun factor, most of Om's jokes and comments just aren't very funny and there doesn't seem to be any chemistry between the two hosts. I'll try to catch episode 2, but I have to be honest, the first episode didn't leave me very excited about future installments of the The GigaOm show.

And to be fair to some of the other people in the thread who are (probably unjustly) getting yelled at, my first thought when the show started was "Wait... is that Ramzi?"

cocodapuf

07-27-2007, 01:56 PM

revel

07-27-2007, 02:10 PM

I wasn't feeling Om. I guess you could say he was "telling it like it is". But some of his comments seemed to make the guests defensive, which in turn kind of made me feel uncomfortable watching. Plus he was hard to understand.

Totally agree with the Ramzi comment above, was waiting for Om to give his "hacker tips".

Overall interesting topics, just get a new host.

masherscf

07-27-2007, 02:19 PM

Totally agree with the Ramzi comment above, was waiting for Om to give his "hacker tips"

I wonder if you realize how racist this sounds? I know you didn't mean it like that. You shouldn't get defensive. The idea of equating this serious guy Om with the fictitious clown Ramzi based solely on a vague auditory resemblance is a little depressing.

revel

07-27-2007, 02:47 PM

Sorry if it sounded racist, not intended. His comments, "that's how we roll" and "why you such a hater?", reminded me of ramzi that's all.

chupatumama

07-27-2007, 03:42 PM

First saw him on Cranky Geeks and remembered how he put life in that tedious videocast with his personal style and straight forward speak. Hearing that thick accent dishing out hip slang left and right is podcast gold. THATS what makes it funny: the fact that he sounds like Apu instead of the indian guy on Heroes with the oxford accent.

I love that whole lounge lizard look and feel to his clothes (and the hot asian chick who is dressed for cocktails later on?), the cheesy couches and whorehouse red walls.
I say he still needs a lava lamp in the corner and maybe use that carafe behind with some glasses and wine or maybe cognac. You know,..those big ass glasses that you can swerve the wine around.

Oh yeah,,....dude,....gold chains. C'mon, Om...5-6 gold chains would seal the deal.

The visuals where somewhat reminiscent of Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas set but the content was very good. The interview with the Seagate guy who looks like producer Robert Evans was interesting.
"You're not from around here?"

I say take it up a notch on the decor cheese factor, dont be afraid to adlib a few gems here and there and bring in guests who are not going to give you the standard PR speak. Take that love of Lindsay, Paris and other skankazoids and do tie ins with online paparazzi sites like x17, TMZ.com, WWTDD.com, egotastic.com.
(im afraid Om is a Perezhilton.com fanboi)

Joy was actually pretty knowledgeable on tech and not just gadgets so that's gonna be a plus . And she makes a good straight man to the Om man.

I'm back for show #2.

"AOL, the geniuses..."

chuckles

07-27-2007, 06:41 PM

Just updated the Episode Page (http://revision3.com/gigaom/inaugural) with the show trailer that was shown @ the Launch Party... :)

-chuckles-

chevmalfet

07-28-2007, 02:11 PM

I quite enjoyed the show. I had no issues with Om's accent, it is all part of the character of his delivery. I won't go so far as to say he "tells it like it is," but I do find his delivery sincere.

I also did not expect the Seagate CEO to be quite engaging as he was. Probably a high point of the show for me and increased my respect for them as a company.

I do agree there is some friction between the hosts, but I suspect that will soften with time.

sugarsickness

07-29-2007, 06:38 AM

Good first episode, I plan to keep watching every week.

masherscf

07-29-2007, 11:36 AM

I also did not expect the Seagate CEO to be quite engaging as he was. Probably a high point of the show for me and increased my respect for them as a company.

The Seagate CEO and the other fellow kept trying to give Om a line of Jive. Om just called them out.

gidion

07-29-2007, 11:57 AM

Ok, so I just finished watching the current diggnation followed by GigaOM. The concept of the show sounded interesting enough, especially since I was looking for a more business type format on rev3 (well anywhere on the web really, but I was hoping to find it at rev3 soon). Ok, there is no comparison to the chemistry of kevin and alex when it comes to Om and Joyce, but it is their first show, so we'll just have to wait and see. They need to get some more energy, less of the "battle of the hosts", more smooth business talk.

The guests were interesting even though I'd rather see a real start-up/web2.0 fresh kind of guy (and then the old-school business guy). HotOrNot is not the coolest thing out there anymore, they are trying to keep up with things, but there are hotter and way less famous things out there. Anyhow seeing the contrast between the world of a small start-up and an IT giant is very interesting. You could even put them on the show at the same time, and get them discussing with each other about their opinions. Because at the moment the questions are a bit repetitive and it's not really the questions that I as a viewer want to have answered. I kept waiting for "the" question to be asked. How about anouncing who you are inviting and gathering interesting questions beforehand. Get a good mix between viewers questions and the hosts questions.

Ok, one last idea, how about getting some non-US entrepreneus on the show every now and then. You don't have to fly them in, but a vidconf would spice up the show and bring in some flavour.

So to sum it up: concept great, hosts need to improve - they may know the business, but they need to get better at bringing it accross over on the screen - and last but not least some small ideas could make the show idea even better.

From a technical point of view, it was sooooo anoying having to run down the volume each time the music came on between guests. It seems to be way to high, just like on TV, but this is IPTV, so crank it down *G*

So I'm looking forward to seeing the next episodes. I honestly hope they get better each week and who knows they might just stay on my weekly rota. Greetings from half way round the world from little 'ol Austria (no, we don't have kangaroos, we have mozart... ;))
Alex

chevmalfet

07-29-2007, 12:27 PM

The Seagate CEO and the other fellow kept trying to give Om a line of Jive. Om just called them out.

That's a bit of an... inaccurate, or at least over-simplistic, view of the show I saw.

rowlodge

07-29-2007, 09:14 PM

i see a guy sitting there and a hot girl talking like this is business week?

i only watched a little i admit, did you forget that it's the first impression that needs to really what grabs our attention?

i liked the graphics at the beginning, but the show was just slow,slow,slow.

civperc

07-30-2007, 08:37 PM

Basically, content was good but presentation was horrible. Om's kind of an ass, and not in well-meaning manner. Joyce is cool and I enjoyed the guests (Seagate rocks), but I will not be watching future episodes.

b0b0

07-31-2007, 04:49 AM

This is the pilot episode, people, so give it a break.

The show has great potential; it's obviously intended to be a more professional industry-centered show as opposed to a geeky show. The discussion is very intelligent and insightful, as Om and Joyce ask the right questions and challenge the guests on certain issues, such as advertising-related data-mining on Facebook in the form of HOTorNOT.

The hosts are great, clearly very knowledgeable, but obviously inexperienced on camera. Their interactions were very awkward, as Om and Joyce seemed noticeably uneasy conversing with each other, but this will probably pass quickly. Given that Revision3 producers have years of experience in television, particularly Sarah Lane, Prager, and Martin Sargent, surely they could give Om and Joyce some pointers on how to improve their on-camera personalities. Om makes mistakes introducing segments (He signalled the number four Hotline story as "Second") and providing smooth continuity between segments, and Joyce speaks too quickly to understand at times. Some in this thread have stated that Om's Indian accent is a problem: I can understand him perfectly and apparently so can everyone he interviews. Also, both hosts were sitting lifelessly still during the interview segments, while the guests moved around and were more lively; this needs to be addressed..

Finally, the show needs to settle into an effective format. The show's format in the pilot episode was not very interesting; it blandly featured the same tech news ticker and interviews that numerous other tech shows feature; while this is not necessarily bad, Revision3 could add more variety to the format. Also, on a technical note, the cameras need to be placed and switched better; during the interviews, the people seemed very far away, and the hosts' heads were turned away from the camera.

All in all, a show worth continuing but one that needs to settle upon an effective format that optimizes the show's time. It's nice to see Revision3 diversifying its content as opposed to making even more geek-centric shows.

xipac

07-31-2007, 05:40 PM

Especially the one line that just mentions how they didn't even watch the whole show.

I agree that some of the exchanges between Om and Joyce felt a bit unnatural, but you have to give them a break. it's show 1. Watch Cranky geeks E1 or TRS. They do get better.
What's with the Lindsay Comments they did feel completely of topic.

The interview with Bill Watkins was by far the best. They did not dumb down the questions. Both had insight about the HD industry and managed to address both business and Operation concerns of the Seagate CEO. They even digested what he was saying and adapted the interview to what was implied.

Mixing the tech and business discussion will give viewers a good perspective on how the industry works.

OM, try not to have guests for your show in industries for which you have a complete disregard. (Facebook, Hi5, etc.) It makes it seem as though you are not even interested in having your guest there.
by saying something like
"I am still not convinced that there's money in this"
it puts a stop to any further arguments.

And awkward lines like
"It makes me feel like a 16 year standing next to claudia schiffer"
"Better apple support wouldn't hurt either" (implying "you guys suck")
to seagate CEO

priceless

Good first episode
I will be watching for GigaOm E2

XiPac

ronjon

07-31-2007, 11:58 PM

I too am a an om fan from cranky geeks and I agree this show could have legs.
I think for one the shots are from too far away. We need to see less of the set and close ups on our hosts. I love the fashion from Om. Something just isn't right maybe the hosts need change places, something. Also the silly side of Om needs to come out as much as the sarcastic abrasive side. Both are great but I think it balances better when he is silly and diffuses certain situations but then ramps it up and gets tough a few minutes later. He has a great personality but I think nerves are not letting it shine as much as when he is just the guest. Maybe initially a little more planning will make this show one of the best on Revision 3 and even the net. Om has connections so I think with good guests big names this show will shine. Joyce is good but we don't know her so it will take time to measure up but if she challenges Om a bit more then we have the banter he is so good at.

gi_josh

08-01-2007, 01:52 AM

While interviewing James Hong, while the heck does Om not accept the fact that he will be able to make money off of ads? Hong says this exact thing three times, and Om completely ignores him and asks the same question three times. Eventually, Hong gets fed up and Joyce has to break it up and make a joke about whether Om is hot or not.

This may just be me, but I for one think you should listen to your guests, and unless there is a reason, avoid making them angry...especially on the first episode.