View Full Version : This show sucks...
psbp516
07-27-2007, 07:10 AM
I just finished watching the episode and have to say. It blows. Om and Joyce have no chemistry. Om is annoying as shit. Are you guys joking when you say this show is good?
miyamotofreak
07-27-2007, 07:32 AM
Yknow I'd take this more seriously if you posted in the discussion thread instead of making a new thread.
vahnx
07-28-2007, 12:46 AM
I didn't really watch the whole thing, just wasn't interesting enough for me. Everything on this show I already know from listening to TWiT and many other podcasts/vidcasts/netcasts.
travislopes
07-28-2007, 01:46 AM
I wouldn't go as far as saying that the show sucks. I think that the premise of the show is perfect. I just think that there could be a better selection of hosts. When I read the description before downloading, I was somewhat excited to watch it. Once I got about five minutes in, I stopped watching because a) Om's accent was causing me to not understand some of what he was saying and b) the guests on the show weren't that exciting.
comhcinc
07-28-2007, 02:23 AM
i agree with travis' first point. how DARE they get a damn foreigner who has a different accent for me! what do they expect me to do? give it a chance and learn how to understand the man? what are these Rev3 people? commies!
toadx
07-28-2007, 02:24 AM
I totally agree. I don't think Om's accent is so bad, however I think it really kills the show. Good content, bad presentation.
masherscf
07-28-2007, 02:37 AM
I totally agree. I don't think Om's accent is so bad, however I think it really kills the show. Good content, bad presentation.
Om's accent is irrelevant. I understood every word he said. In any case, that's how he talks and the show is about him.
I think people are having trouble with what he said not how he said it. It's just easier to attack his accent because he's otherwise quite eloquent and intelligent.
comhcinc
07-28-2007, 03:10 AM
I totally agree. I don't think Om's accent is so bad, however I think it really kills the show. Good content, bad presentation.
it's not that sarcasm is hard to detect on line.....it's just that there are a lot of morons that don't understand what sarcasm is ;)
travislopes
07-28-2007, 03:41 AM
I'm definitely willing to give this show a second chance. It's only their pilot episode.
schacht7
07-28-2007, 03:50 AM
Nah, GigaOm isn't that bad. Yeah, it got kind of annoying, but the show just started. Let's see where it goes from here.
On another note, I don't mind his accent.
samureye
07-28-2007, 04:52 AM
I heard Om speak on Podtech once, I thought he was drunk, but I gave the show a chance and I'm a fan.
lordfoul
07-28-2007, 05:27 AM
I think OM's great and opinionated but his partner either needs to step up to the plate and challenge him and his opinions or they need to trade her in. Either way it's early days and I liked it; though there is room for improvement. I'll give it a chance for sure.
dash2
07-28-2007, 10:29 AM
I wouldn't go as far as saying that the show sucks. I think that the premise of the show is perfect. I just think that there could be a better selection of hosts. When I read the description before downloading, I was somewhat excited to watch it. Once I got about five minutes in, I stopped watching because a) Om's accent was causing me to not understand some of what he was saying and b) the guests on the show weren't that exciting.
I completely agree.
I've not very satisfied with this show..
masherscf
07-28-2007, 01:15 PM
I completely agree.
I've not very satisfied with this show..
I don't understand what you've written here. I'm not very satisfied with your post.
imlate
07-28-2007, 01:52 PM
How about giving it a chance before saying "it sucks"?
michael0010
07-28-2007, 04:13 PM
It honestly is pretty decent (IMHO). If you just listen to what they're saying, they're both fairly intelligent and seem to be up to date with technology - that's my opinion anyway.
dash2
07-28-2007, 11:54 PM
I don't understand what you've written here. I'm not very satisfied with your post.
I quoted travislopes and said I agreed.
Then I said the show (The GigaOm Show) didn't satisfy me.
What's not to get?
masherscf
07-29-2007, 12:39 AM
What's not to get?
Humor, apparently, I was making fun of your typo.
cocodapuf
07-29-2007, 12:21 PM
Humor, apparently, I was making fun of your typo.
I read his post and yours several times trying to figure out what about it could possibly be misunderstood. Typos and spelling mistakes happen, the post was fine.
I guess my sense of humor must be as bad as dash2's.
toadx
07-29-2007, 07:45 PM
Om's accent is irrelevant. I understood every word he said. In any case, that's how he talks and the show is about him.
I think people are having trouble with what he said not how he said it. It's just easier to attack his accent because he's otherwise quite eloquent and intelligent.
I don't see how you can say Om's accent is irrelevant. I do agree that he is quite intelligent, and as I said before his accent wasn't that bad, however my argument is that the show could've been a lot better. If there were different hosts of the show, and the content of the show stayed the same, the show could've been a lot better. I'm saying that the presentation was lacking and his accent played a role in that. If I think about it, it makes me realize why you never see people in broadcast media that speak with an accent.
iccanui
07-29-2007, 08:51 PM
They just need to settle in, they were rushing ala cranky geeks and once they settle down and warm up to each other a bit i think itll be good. The gigabit thing is cool and its really about a talk show with industry leading guests and CEO's. Give it a few weeks to get some legs. Good start though.
It is a more adult and mature aimed show, so i can see how some people arent gonna really like it. This fills a demographic at Rev3 that is lacking. I think its a more important show then some of the younger guys are gonna realize. Old people are like that guys, cut them some slack ;)
masherscf
07-30-2007, 12:37 AM
I think that the kids are having trouble with Om's "Yes, I get that it's cool, but how are you going to make money with it?" line of questions.
What is with everyone complaining about the accent? He speaks English quite articulately.
masherscf
07-31-2007, 09:14 PM
What is with everyone complaining about the accent? He speaks English quite articulately.
That's what I don't get. He's pretty funny too. My guess, is that Om is less impressed with coolness and more interested in brass tacks. Asking questions about how someone plans to make money just might not seem cool to everyone.
ronjon
08-01-2007, 12:11 AM
As part of a bigger forum like on Cranky Geeks he is really funny. If I hadn't seen him there first then I wouldn't like him much. Give him time and maybe they can do a show on who he is and how he got there so we can appreciate him. I agree the presentation wasn't good or as good as it should have been but he has a lot of connections in the Silicon Valley and I really think the upper crust of tech society diggs him so he will always have interesting guests. I just think it needs time to develop. I do think the camera shots are from too far away and the set color may need to be changed. I think a picture of a giant transformer (electrical not optimus prime) or a pic of the city (San Fran) would also live'en up the set. They needed to film this show watch it improve it and re shoot it. :confused:
weedhappy
08-01-2007, 06:55 AM
Oh so wait a few shows? That's kewl.
I stopped watching after he mentioned Lindsey Lohan the third time, I just found it too creepy.
I'll try back again around show 4 or 5. I hope it improves.
tokenuser
08-01-2007, 01:09 PM
Om has an accent?
Obviously none of you have worked in IT.
It is full of different accents - including mine.
I don't have an accent, but the people around me talk funny.
baldmonkey
08-01-2007, 11:01 PM
I don't see how you can say Om's accent is irrelevant. I do agree that he is quite intelligent, and as I said before his accent wasn't that bad, however my argument is that the show could've been a lot better. If there were different hosts of the show, and the content of the show stayed the same, the show could've been a lot better. I'm saying that the presentation was lacking and his accent played a role in that. If I think about it, it makes me realize why you never see people in broadcast media that speak with an accent.
Or the fact that you never see people with an accent in "regular" media makes you feel that its weird. Accept that there are accents out there, and diversity is a good thing an you will surely enjoy the show.
masherscf
08-01-2007, 11:08 PM
Or the fact that you never see people with an accent in "regular" media makes you feel that its weird. Accept that there are accents out there, and diversity is a good thing an you will surely enjoy the show.
Diversity is out there. Ask any college student about accents. Sometimes the guy how knows the shit you need to know talks with an accent, that's life. I think it's interesting anyway.
I think the complaints are less about his accent and more about his focus. I think people are pointing to his accent as an excuse to dismiss troubling observations about how web 2.0 things should be paid for. I think this is an uncomfortable subject for web 2.0 consumers. People are being forced to understand that ad-support isn't going to be enough to pay for services. People are gonna have to open up their pocketbooks. Otherwise, it's 2001 all over again.
kowgod
08-02-2007, 07:31 AM
Honestly, I haven't watched the show yet, as I've been out of town since it premiered. But I am downloading it now and will check it out tomorrow.
I will say that if it's half as interesting as his blog, I will definitely like it. Om is a highly respected voice in this field, and I have learned a LOT reading his various works in the past.
And, whatever happened to him being the most eligible tech bachelor or whatever? I mean, I never really agreed -- I'm a bachelor afterall -- but did he ever get to hook up with some hottie technoslut?
goodq
08-03-2007, 08:28 AM
It seems that the number one complaint is om's accent. I can understand why it may be a difficult to understand in the beginning. However, If you give the show a change and really listen to what Om is saying, he brings up some legetimate points. To say it sucks is a rash judgement. Let the show evolve and see where it ends up.
For me Om's accent is not a problem. I think both of the presenters totally suit the show. I love the intro music! I look forward to the future episodes :)
ashtonian
08-03-2007, 09:05 AM
I agree. The setting feels stale as Joyce the lawyer and Om the Asian man with hairy chest find no channel to connect through.
You notice the nonchalant Om surround himself and his show with a self-commendatory backdrop on a stage where Joyce entertains a disengaged dullness while carrying on her vainly audited news.
Sadly the most interesting part of episode 2 was when Kevin Rose and Jason Calacanis exchanged dialogue. Too bad they don't have their own show.
Nothing here seems to mix and match besides the fact that both hosts are Asian.
Om tries to creatively lighten the mood and Joyce poops on his sad attempt to make the show more interesting.
mrpopular
08-03-2007, 02:14 PM
i'll wait a few episodes to see what happens... Once they get into the swing of things I think it'll become much better.
dslifer
08-03-2007, 03:54 PM
I agreed with most everyone here about the first episode, but also decided I'd give it another chance. I just finished watching the second one, and found myself hating once I heard that voice chime in.
I imagine Om is a great blogger, I don't really go over to his site often, but to have made so much money off it, great, go him - However, video-casting is not at all his forte nor do I think it should be considered his new fore-front.
The two of them together are completely seperate worlds, they speak very different and don't play off each other at all. Episode 2 will be my last episode I put myself through, I really hope either they shape up, or Rev3 discontinues their support with them, it's becoming more and more a great network, with more than just two shows worth watching!
tokenuser
08-03-2007, 04:29 PM
This thread highlights something very important ... you either love or hate the show. There is no middle ground.
I almost wonder if this polarisation is based on age or the level of ADD people have.
masherscf
08-03-2007, 04:30 PM
This thread highlights something very important ... you either love or hate the show. There is no middle ground.
I almost wonder if this polarisation is based on age or the level of ADD people have.
I think it's ageist and racist.
I think it's ageist and racist.
I have nothing against either OM or Joyce. Its really just the fact that right now they are not meshing at all. Its so awkward to watch...unnatural. The content was very good, but its delivered badly. I agree with anyone saying that the show needs different hosts. Obviously they cant get rid of OM, so it would need to be completely redesigned.
logant
08-03-2007, 11:28 PM
I have nothing against either OM or Joyce. Its really just the fact that right now they are not meshing at all. Its so awkward to watch...unnatural. The content was very good, but its delivered badly. I agree with anyone saying that the show needs different hosts. Obviously they cant get rid of OM, so it would need to be completely redesigned.
I don't think you guys are getting it. It can't have different hosts. It can be be called the GigaOm Show without Om Malik.
nextgenxbox
08-04-2007, 12:07 AM
Om's accent takes a bit of getting used to. And you have to give a show a month for them to get the hang of things. They mentioned they've never been in front of the camera before.
fallfarewell
08-05-2007, 01:35 AM
The show seems more like filler for the network than anything else. Nothing to do with Om or his accent, I just think the show is boring.
I don't think you guys are getting it. It can't have different hosts. It can be be called the GigaOm Show without Om Malik.
NO obviously I do get it, read what you quoted. I said..."Obviously they cant get rid of OM, so it would need to be completely redesigned." By redesigned i meant New Name, New Hosts, same type of content
leftkidney
08-05-2007, 01:09 PM
I cant understand half of the things OM says
Ramzi would of been a better choice
p_frank
08-05-2007, 01:10 PM
I really like the show, just for the record :)
swill
08-09-2007, 12:05 PM
It doesn't matter what you do. this is so BAD / SAD
Sorry dude.
jax1492
08-09-2007, 08:58 PM
I watched episode 1 and not 2 yet, but i will say i didn't like episode 1. It was like they both were trying really hard to be cool but came off as snobs. sorry, but the two hosts have no chemistry unlike Alex and Kevin ... sorry to say but the show open was the coolest part of the show. :(
jax1492
08-09-2007, 08:59 PM
I cant understand half of the things OM says
Ramzi would of been a better choice
OMG, it reminded me of that too ... but Ramzi was funny.
logant
08-10-2007, 02:22 AM
OMG, it reminded me of that too ... but Ramzi was funny.
Ramzi was never funny.
thesysk
08-10-2007, 06:01 AM
If concerned with homogeneous accents and unrealistic polish take a second look at t.v. as it seems to have been trying its hardest at insulating people from anything outside the status quo thus far. As for me I am thankful for something different, cut to the chase discussions, both hosts insights, and what has been a good look into the best of silicon valley.
phatlip12
08-10-2007, 07:21 AM
I think it's ageist and racist.
Really, grow up guys. Its one thing to not like the show, but to not like it because the host has an accent is ridiculous.
BTW, I really like the show. :)
phatlip12
08-10-2007, 07:26 AM
Diversity is out there. Ask any college student about accents. Sometimes the guy how knows the shit you need to know talks with an accent, that's life. I think it's interesting anyway.
I think the complaints are less about his accent and more about his focus. I think people are pointing to his accent as an excuse to dismiss troubling observations about how web 2.0 things should be paid for. I think this is an uncomfortable subject for web 2.0 consumers. People are being forced to understand that ad-support isn't going to be enough to pay for services. People are gonna have to open up their pocketbooks. Otherwise, it's 2001 all over again.
Please don't "bust my bubble"!
BTW, I think the key is ad supported sites ALONG with paid premium memberships. Pownce is on the right track...
pault
08-11-2007, 12:49 AM
I like the show. It's informative and I don't find it boring, even though it's not as entertaining and funny as diggnation. And, Joyce is hot, so that's another reason to watch :D
_sorrow_
08-11-2007, 10:40 AM
I'm a fan of the show. It's got a good business side to a tech podcast. And they've already had some good guests & discussions, so i'll keep watching it.
I respect the other Rev3 podcasts, but honestly either the humor is lost on me in most of them, or it downright bothers me.. so i pretty much stick to the mellower ones.. :cool:
michael0010
08-11-2007, 09:28 PM
I couldn't stop laughing when this thread ended up being on the show. I think what was said was kind of harsh. I don't see any reason to find Om annoying and I do think that Om and Joyce do have chemistry which will only get better over time... I think if Joyce started challenging Om more then that would definitely improve their relationship and make the show more enjoyable...
But guys, you need to remember that these people do have feelings, just like the rest of us... I'm sure if you started a podcast and discovered that people were saying that you were "annoying as shit" etc you just wouldn't feel good and that would only hinder any progress that could be made.
If you don't like the show. Don't watch it. Simple. Or if you think it could improve, give some constructive input, but don't be an asshole about it...
nimajus
08-12-2007, 04:53 AM
Actually I really like the idea of the show...
But OM is so annoying... The biggest problem I have with him on this show, is that he seems to be a very closed minded and incurious. He sits there blabbering away, and even if he makes an interesting point, he seems to not be interested in other person's opinion or point of view.
I think having so many cool guests and topics to talk about would make a good show but not with this host. If he wants to ask intelligent questions like he does and then end the end just basically say I don't agree, I don't think so... "You gotta do better than that" maybe he should make a separate show for himself called Om'eily Factor or something...
I know I'm being overly harsh, but I just can't sit down and watch the show without me being annoyed by him, even though I like the content. I wonder is it just me or are there a lot of people like that...
Oh Shoot, did some one flick the channel and realise that it was not Opray, Or Americas got talent?
Are we not on the same page?
Om Malik is a tech geek and joyce is from the law profession (if I am not mistaken), they are not actors/presenters by profession. The entire show is an aquired taste that fills a niche/gap. You would have truely be a avid follower of internet web trends to appreciate what it meant to actually bring Jason and Kevin to the same table and the public to view. You know how many influential players, web 2.0 developers actually watch this show? Plenty I bet!
As far as my entertainment was concerned I was truely satisified with the show and immensely enjoyed it. I am sorry that youtube commentators did not get entertain by it (http://digg.com/tech_news/The_Internet_Has_Always_Had_Loud_Dumb_People) by it.
Does anyone watch the lifestyleUK on cable in the UK? For me it blows, Decorating houses, Doing up your kitchen....damn..But my wife, she will not miss an eposide! But am I going to diss it as if it sucks...urrm..NO! just that is not my 'cup of tea', as the english would say.
If intelligent permits then make some comments that are productive so we can all be stimulated and maybe the moderators will take that on board and add it to the show. If not I believe Jerry Springers doing re-runs.