Captain America is back? (The Invaders)

[mrugly]

http://wizarduniverse.com/_images_/005579/CaptaPainti.jpg

As for the authenticity of the fallen Star-Spangled Avenger marking Ross’s return, Ross says that he is the real deal. “That is no clone,” Ross stated. “That is Steve Rogers, and he is returning.” And there will be more to come.

Marvel teases the return of comics’ premier painter—and Captain America? (http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/wizard/005579375.cfm)

[mrugly]

I'm looking at the glove to the left (our right) of Cap' and I think it's Buckey's. I'm hoping they're just doing some old war stories and will not actually bring him back so soon.

[acomicbookgirl]

They did mention Steve Rogers in that article. I don't know.. Let's see what happens.. Its Alex Ross its not exactly going to happen in a couple of months is it? If it is, it should've been in Previews and there isn't anything of the sort. I'd say probably next year or maybe not..

[tad]

I'm looking at the glove to the left (our right) of Cap' and I think it's Buckey's. I'm hoping they're just doing some old war stories and will not actually bring him back so soon.

And could the bare arm be Submariner? Fire in BG- Torch? Could be The Invaders are getting a new story line.

But if a "return" were to be given the Alex Ross treatment, the biggest return would be the Avengers finding a frozen Captain America. Ross usually plays with iconic moments.

[mikegraham6]

I'm looking at the glove to the left (our right) of Cap' and I think it's Buckey's. I'm hoping they're just doing some old war stories and will not actually bring him back so soon.

i think this is EXACTLY what's going to be happening. This whole "return" banner is just to get the fans in an uproar

[labor_days]

Looks like Bucky to Cap's left and Namor to his right. Invaders.

[six-gun]

I have been curious lately how the current Captain America is going to be able to last much longer before it has to become a "Bucky/Sharon/Falcon" title. It's my favorite ongoing right now and I just hope that sales wise they'll be able to keep it going without Steve. So yeah, I want cap to come back.

The image looks to be of the Invaders, Namor's on Cap's right, Bucky's on his left.

Edit: Sory Labor, didn't see your post.

[conorkilpatrick]

Looks like Bucky to Cap's left and Namor to his right. Invaders.

Not to mention the flame of the Human Torch behind him. Definitely The Invaders.

[labor_days]

The fiery background might be hinting at one of the Human Torches (good one Tad). I'm thinking this isn't happening in current continuity.

Captain America has been so great despite the lack of Rogers. Don't think they'll keep Cap out of the book forever but if the quality held up, I wouldn't mind. Honestly.


edit: Conor, beat me too it.

[senoj1]

And could the bare arm be Submariner? Fire in BG- Torch? Could be The Invaders are getting a new story line.

But if a "return" were to be given the Alex Ross treatment, the biggest return would be the Avengers finding a frozen Captain America. Ross usually plays with iconic moments.

Yup prolly Invaders. Ross said he likes doing things in continuity on something i read on newsarama. Perhaps this is just the Return of the war stories. I hope not.

[conorkilpatrick]

I'm super psyched for the return of The Invaders. One of the best purchases I ever made as a kid at a con was a big ol' stack of Invaders comics, including this one:

http://img55.echo.cx/img55/8650/inv78mc.jpg

[horatio616]

I'm super psyched for the return of The Invaders. One of the best purchases I ever made as a kid at a con was a big ol' stack of Invaders comics, including this one:

http://img55.echo.cx/img55/8650/inv78mc.jpg

Wow! That's one of the first comics I ever bought. Haven't seen one of those in ages!

[jimski]

I'm a bit surprised this is the only Chicago news to find its way to iFanboy. Millar and Hitch on FF for at least a year, yawn-worthy?

[acomicbookgirl]

Wasn't there a series that came out a couple of years ago of The Invaders? I could be wrong...

[labor_days]

Baron Blood! Nazis, Vampires and Zombies. History's true axis of evil, am I right?

Millar and Hitch on FF for at least a year, yawn-worthy?
Pretty much.

[jgg0610]

As far as timing is concerned, when they ran that image at Chicago, it had 2008 across the bottom of it.

[kwok_talk]

I'm a bit surprised this is the only Chicago news to find its way to iFanboy. Millar and Hitch on FF for at least a year, yawn-worthy?

I thought that was intriguing, but doesn't quite have the weight it would have a few years ago.

How about that Iron Man / Spider Woman kiss slide?

[jgg0610]

I thought that was intriguing, but doesn't quite have the weight it would have a few years ago.

How about that Iron Man / Spider Woman kiss slide?
That was pretty interesting. I'm curious to see where they go with it.

[iSteve]

I am so psyched if it is the return of the Invaders. I have the whole second (70s) series. Loved it.

[mikegraham6]

the only invaders i've read were the crappy issues of The Avengers that Chuck Austen wrote before Bendis took over.
God he sucks.

but im super psyched for this book, Ross drawing the Marvel U? Awesome!

[labor_days]

And yet, I greatly prefer Ross drawing the DCU. Marvels was just alright. Not that Justice was any better. I think Ross is a crap storyteller. Sure was pretty to look at though.

[mikegraham6]

but wasn't Marvels his first work? he hasn't drawn the Marvel U since, his art improved while he drew the DC icons

[labor_days]

True, true. But I don't know if Ross' storytelling ability improved any since then.

[asiananimal]

I think it's too soon, didn't they just bury him in his icy tomb?

[conorkilpatrick]

I think it's too soon, didn't they just bury him in his icy tomb?

That picture is of The Invaders, the WWII team he fought the Nazis with.

[kahunablair]

And yet, I greatly prefer Ross drawing the DCU. Marvels was just alright. Not that Justice was any better. I think Ross is a crap storyteller. Sure was pretty to look at though.

I agree that I don't like his Marvel stuff. His style is more iconic, symbolic and over the top. He tries to make each panel a work of art, which can lead to problems. It's kind of hard to make a one-eyed camera man taking off his jacket seem iconic. Thats why I think the "Realistic World" of Marvel doesn't really fit his style.

[kwok_talk]

That picture is of The Invaders, the WWII team he fought the Nazis with.

Just to play devil’s advocate (the pinball game), Marvel’s got to know that comic fans would dissect the image over and over and eventually assume that it’s not the return of Cap but rather related to the past Invaders. Like one of those cases, where it’s an endless loop of knowing that the other person knows what you know, how funny would it be if Marvel one-up’d the general speculation by actually making it the return of Cap from the dead. I’m also on the side that it’s probably just a historical Invaders series, but how neat would that be if it wasn’t? The recent spoilers of One More Day for AMS wouldn’t really seem to favor that, but maybe I’m just hopeful for Steve to return.

[conorkilpatrick]

I’m also on the side that it’s probably just a historical Invaders series, but how neat would that be if it wasn’t?

It would be pretty awful. In the middle of Ed Brubaker's painstaking post-Steve Rogers storyline they have Alex Ross and Jim Kreuger bring Cap back? That's as unlikely as things get.

[kwok_talk]

It would be pretty awful. In the middle of Ed Brubaker's painstaking post-Steve Rogers storyline they have Alex Ross and Jim Kreuger bring Cap back? That's as unlikely as things get.

I agree with your point from that context. I guess I was just speaking more from the direction that it seems like the comic fans have already dissected the hype image enough that the “surprise” is gone and the comic isn’t even close to out yet. Historically, I don’t know if or how often its happened, but I just think it’d be fun if the company anticipated our reaction and totally delivered something completely different.

[flakbait]

A new series of Invaders stories (set in WWII) would be pretty cool, though I wonder how much more could be done with that. I guess some of the flashbacks we've seen in Cap over the past couple years have shown that quite a bit can be done. :)

But I'd be insulted if someone other than Brubaker were allowed to bring back Steve.

[labor_days]

Brubker may have a good long run on Cap but Captain America will come back eventually. Rather it's Rogers' under the mask or Brubaker at the helm is a different story.

[mikegraham6]

i think that Brubaker is going to take the current storyline and run with it for as long as he can. He's said he has no intention of bringing cap back in the near future. that being said i can see him bringing Steve back in the last issue of his run. but i really really want to see Bucky as captain america, it would be so cool (only if Brubaker is at the helm though, noone else seems to have a grasp on the winter soldier character other than him)

[davegraham]

Apparently, it is an Invaders book (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=125258), but it it also a time travel story that puts the WW2 team in the modern Marvel universe. Not sure how I feel about this. I am excited about the idea of an Invaders book, but it kind of steps all over the world without Cap stuff going on. Will each member of the Invaders get to warden their own prison or will they co-manage one site?

[conorkilpatrick]

Weird.

Could be good. Could be lame.

Only one way I'll find out, I guess.

[kwok_talk]

I’m kind of not sure how to feel about this. I think a lot of questions just flooded into my mind that made my head hurt.

[tad]

Weird.
Could be good. Could be lame.
Only one way I'll find out, I guess.

So you're with me? Break into the home of Alex Ross, purge computer files, take his canvases? You're tough, I assume you can take Ross out no matter what brush and palette ninjitsu he pulls.

This is gonna be so cool. Do we get to put that black grease on our faces? Ron can come but he has to stay in the car.

[kahunablair]

Well I was one of the guys that wanted an Invaders book, but I don't think I want one that takes place in modern days.
This could really go either way.
Wait... if Cap from the past comes to this time, doesn't that mean he now knows he dies? Couldn't he put the door from a metal stove under his poncho so that when they try to snipe him it bounces off? At least give Cap a hoverboard. That would be sweet!

[conorkilpatrick]

http://img.search.com/thumb/c/ce/Doc_1985.JPG/250px-Doc_1985.JPG
"GREAT SCOTT!"

[kahunablair]

Christopher Lloyd as the Winter Soldier? Genius!

[esophagus]

Is it confirmed that Ross is drawing and/or writing this. I would be content with him just doing covers or something. Art would be okay, but writing woudl take it to far. I absolutely love Justice (I get the feeling I'm in a minority) but with everything going on right now I would just be pissed to watch him screw it up. Perhaps this time machine will also take them out of the standard Marvel U? Invaders vs. Marvel Zombies? Heh. Anything. They just better not screw with what the Cap title has going right now.

[conorkilpatrick]

Is it confirmed that Ross is drawing and/or writing this. I would be content with him just doing covers or something. Art would be okay, but writing woudl take it to far.

Article, dude, read the article. :)

(He's co-writing and doing covers, not doing the interiors - kinda like Earth X)

[esophagus]

This is what skimming gets me. Oh well.

[davegraham]

I don't think I am all that worried about this book screwing up what Brubaker is doing in Captain America. Civil War barely entered into the title and Captain America & Iron Man were the stars of the mini-series. Brubaker seems pretty much invincible to outside events conflicting with his stories.

[mikegraham6]

Article, dude, read the article. :)

(He's co-writing and doing covers, not doing the interiors - kinda like Earth X)

now im even less interested, why can't he get back to doing interiors (he only painted Justice)

[conorkilpatrick]

now im even less interested, why can't he get back to doing interiors (he only painted Justice)

Well, it wouldn't be anything close to a monthly book if he penciled and painted the interiors.

[mikegraham6]

what was his last book? the only one i can think of is Kingdom Come, but there has to be others.
it just seems like a while since we've seen him in full force.

plus it could still be monthly just as long as they get some issues in the bag before publishing (but we all know that doesn't ever happen:rolleyes:)

[labor_days]

Ross last worked on Justice, no?

[conorkilpatrick]

plus it could still be monthly just as long as they get some issues in the bag before publishing (but we all know that doesn't ever happen:rolleyes:)

It would take so long that there would be no way to have the book in continuity.

[conorkilpatrick]

Ross last worked on Justice, no?

He painted over someone else's pencils. Even then the book was bi-monthly, at best.

[labor_days]

I really didn't follow Justice past the first couple of issues. It was kinda crap, yo.

[esophagus]

I read it in trades. I never actually realized it was a monthly. I picked up the first book and loved it before realizing there were more. They were good too, but I think that first book would be an amazing graphic novel left to itself. Not sure how it would read in issues.

[tavella]

I don't think I am all that worried about this book screwing up what Brubaker is doing in Captain America. Civil War barely entered into the title and Captain America & Iron Man were the stars of the mini-series. Brubaker seems pretty much invincible to outside events conflicting with his stories.

Brubaker did talk about the post-Cap book being about what happens when this huge hole is left in the Cap's absence. And it's hard to have that if Cap's present, even if only time traveling.

[iSteve]

ROSS & KRUEGER ON AVENGERS/INVADERS (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=151725)

Last August, Marvel and Dynamic Forces announced that Alex Ross and Jim Krueger’s next major epic length story (well, being told at the same time as Project Super Powers at Dynamite) would be Avengers/Invader - an in-continuity, 12 part series with art by Steve Sadowski that brings the World War II-era Invader to the present day Marvel Universe where they meet with the Avengers. Both teams of Avengers.

It’s been a while since the announcement, and the first issue has been solicited for May. We spoke with Ross and Krueger for an update on the project.

Newsarama: Jim and Alex, lets go back to the start of the project – as you've both said earlier, this was something that was originated by Dynamic Force’s Nick Barucci. What form did it take when it was first pitched to you?

Alex Ross: This was a loose idea going back years now, where the general hope was to reignite fan interest in the original characters Marvel had from the Golden Age. Avengers/Invaders was intended to be a doorway into a time period that boasted an incredible number of forgotten concepts, as well as the main group, which was a unique collective in the ‘40s and in their story revival in the ‘70s.

Jim Krueger: I think Nick originally pitched it to Marvel as the Avengers go into the past to see the Invaders. That's how the discussion began. But, of course, that was before Cap's death and at the beginnings of Civil War. A lot changed in the Marvel Universe and the idea of bringing the Invaders into the present became more and more attractive as an idea for the story.

NRAMA: What did you have to do with it in terms of turning it into what will see print in May?

AR: As with all projects Jim and I have worked on together, I contribute key story points and work on the plot construction with him. In many ways to get all the players on the same stage, it’s a riddle that we have to solve.

JK: Really, I think the key was imagining all the different problems that would arise if Steve Rogers, Cap, were suddenly walking around New York City again. That was almost the first tier of thinking. Then the idea was to think about each of the other Invaders and ask the questions as to what would happen to cause them drama in this day and age. For example. How would Namor feel about seeing himself as an adult? What would it be like for Toro to find that there is now a word for his ability to burst into flame (mutant)? What would the Original Human Torch do when he discovered that... (I don't think I want to tell this one)? And on and on. The development was all about asking the right kind of questions and then creating a story that dealt with those things. On the Avengers side, what's interesting is the chance some of them have to reach into the past, with all their regrets, and say something to their earlier selves. There's Iron Man's temptation to warn Cap. What will the Winter Soldier (the new Cap) say to Bucky? How will adult Namor speak to his teenage counterpart? And on and on.......

http://i.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Avengers_invaders/AVNINV001_cov.jpg

[mattk]

At first i was extremely excited about this book as i loved the invaders flashbacks in recent Captain America series. And really wanted to see more of the team doing things in their own book.

BUT, Invaders traveling forward in time and hanging out with the avengers and seeing their future selves and blah blah blah... Sounds overthought for me. I would just really love an invaders only maxi series. This could be because i don't read any of the current avengers books... but i dunno - anyone else diggin my jive?

[iSteve]

I found this image of the Captain America serial from the 1940s. I thought I would share.

http://captain-america.us/images/wallpaper/cap40smovie.jpg

[iSteve]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN9jJuwlbfs

1944 Captain America serial trailer

[six-gun]

At first i was extremely excited about this book as i loved the invaders flashbacks in recent Captain America series. And really wanted to see more of the team doing things in their own book.

BUT, Invaders traveling forward in time and hanging out with the avengers and seeing their future selves and blah blah blah... Sounds overthought for me. I would just really love an invaders only maxi series. This could be because i don't read any of the current avengers books... but i dunno - anyone else diggin my jive?

I agree with you completely, a WWII Invaders book would have been the stuff.