Survivorman or Man Vs. Wild

[brettville]

No holds barred cage match: Edge goes to Bear.

Unstoppable force of Raditude: Les, hands down.

Your opinions. Go.

[seNoj1]

Bear is such a better host. I think he is getting a bad rap though. He climbed Everest. Why would he want to be fake c'mon. Les is cool but not interesting but i watch both.
If they are both on TV i will watch Man vs Wild.

[gillsterhill]

ever since all that fake shit was released about Man vs Wild ive been watching SurvivorMan alot more

[sparks]

If you are out in the middle of the desert and magically a Motel 6 appeared, would you stay it?

I know Bear got some bad press with 'cheating', but the stuff he does it still way more than anything I could, and even if some parts are 'fake' it's still more real than 24 (which I also love)

Man vs Wild > SurvivorMan

[samureye]

Man Vs. Wild, hands down. I don't care about the fake stuff people talk about. I mean, it's not like it was totally real to begin with. Neither of them are "REALLY" real in any case. Man Vs. Wild is more authentic to me because Baer is on the move. Some things may take away from the experience like aerial shots but whatever, he's not really lost, this is an example. It's like you want to see the guy die or something. I honestly don't think he's doing anything that when you watch the show you think it's not done well enough.

Survivorman is a dude sitting in front of cameras. I watched it recently and it's OK-ish, but I really like Man V Wild more. I was watching an episode today where he was in the snow and said he had to walk back to the guys to get tape. What the hell is that? It's still 2 different shows though. Baer could theoretically do a show in a few hours while Survivorman is 7 days, unless he gives up, which he has done.

[SgtKabukiman]

yeah its a tough battle--- Bear has the resume of awesomenes...I mean the stuff he has done is incredible...however, in terms of the shows-- Les goes out and actually does everything AND he freaking films it himself....

I mean...he films it HIMSELF. in one episode there was a wide-shot of him walking up this giant mountain/glacier thing and then in the next shot he is like "I go through a lot of work to give you guys those wide shots"...since he has to set up the camera...go walk...then walk back...get the camera...then actually go up. I mean-- that is badass..

so, if the question is Survivorman vs. Man vs. Wild-- i'm going with Survivorman...but if the question is bear vs. les--- I have to go with Bear since outside the TV realm he is more of a badass...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_Grylls

vs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Stroud

Bear FTW (but survivorman FTW)

[samureye]

Doing the cameras yourself is STUPID. That's why it's a guy sitting around. In the episode in the snow I saw today he talked about if a bear attacked him. Well, I wonder what would happen if a Polar Bear woke him up. He'd either be mauled in the dark or get up and run...out of shot. This is ridiculous. To get a more engaging experience, get a camera man. As I stated before, he still goes back to get more film from people, so what's the point of this really? To get awkwardly edited stuff? Lame.

[acidburn]

I just read that article about Bear Grylls staying in hotels while he was supposed to be filming the show.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=470155&in_page_id=1770

i liked both shows for a while, but I always thought Bear was a bit too dramatic in his descriptions of the things he was doing. Les is better as a host of a survival show.

[SgtKabukiman]

Doing the cameras yourself is STUPID. That's why it's a guy sitting around. In the episode in the snow I saw today he talked about if a bear attacked him. Well, I wonder what would happen if a Polar Bear woke him up. He'd either be mauled in the dark or get up and run...out of shot. This is ridiculous. To get a more engaging experience, get a camera man. As I stated before, he still goes back to get more film from people, so what's the point of this really? To get awkwardly edited stuff? Lame.


im pretty sure he just brings the DV tapes with himmm....?

Also, thats why I dont like bear's show...since there is like a crew following him around it becomes pretty apparent that he isnt alone and that he isn't really roughing it...I would sacrifice quality for reality any day for a show like this...

[filch]

Doing the cameras yourself is STUPID. That's why it's a guy sitting around. In the episode in the snow I saw today he talked about if a bear attacked him. Well, I wonder what would happen if a Polar Bear woke him up. He'd either be mauled in the dark or get up and run...out of shot. This is ridiculous. To get a more engaging experience, get a camera man. As I stated before, he still goes back to get more film from people, so what's the point of this really? To get awkwardly edited stuff? Lame.

No way, totally disagree. Survivorman is just a single man, nature, and the elements. No film crew etc.... That is way more engaging to me in regards to survival than some guy with a crew, working out the best shots, get lots of production work... it's just that much less convincing.

I don't care for the guy w/ the crew, I don't feel his pain or his struggle, b/c he has his boys right there to help out. It's no different to me than what the show Survivor is... hardly survival, which is what the show is supposed to be about. THAT is stupid and lame to me.

[samureye]

But he is! Some things are way too dramatic, I agree, but that's just him. I really enjoyed the everglades episode, catching that turtle, ramming the knife in the head and throwing it in the fire. It was good.

Les strikes me as a crazy person, honestly. All alone, almost hippie like. Man Vs. Wild is better to me.

[samureye]

No way, totally disagree. Survivorman is just a single man, nature, and the elements. No film crew etc.... That is way more engaging to me in regards to survival than some guy with a crew, working out the best shots, get lots of production work... it's just that much less convincing.

I don't care for the guy w/ the crew, I don't feel his pain or his struggle, b/c he has his boys right there to help out. It's no different to me than what the show Survivor is... hardly survival, which is what the show is supposed to be about. THAT is stupid and lame to me.
Um, what's the difference between what Baer does and what Les does? He's given up already. If it was that authentic, he would not get to give up after a few days and go meet the crew, he would have to stay there all 7 days regardless. For both, the crews are there for backup in life or death situations. I have never seen an episode where Baer gives up, and he has the option.

I don't get why people say Les' show is more interesting or authentic. What's authentic about holding nearly 100 pounds of camera equipment extra? Do plane crash survivors do that? Nope. Baer's show is more authentic because they follow him doing what he does natually, so he can focus on anctually doing things, unlike crazy Les Stroud.

A typical show of Survivorman goes like this

"Well hey there, you know, this place is really hot, after a few days it gets to ya. Well, look what I have here in my pocket, some gum, a paperclip, and I happened to find this fishing net here. I also happened to find this skillet and an electric stove out here. Maybe this gum can come in handy to catch some fish too...but I get so lonely out here. Let me play my Harmonica."

Man Vs Wild goes more along the lines of straight up action getting dropped out of a plane into nowhere, catching snakes, turtles and your manhood, skinning and eating it alive. Man Vs. Wild is a man's show, like watching MacGuyver. Les Stroud is the Bob Ross of survival shows. "Well, I had some gum in my pocket..." GIVE ME A BREAK! haha

[filch]

Man Vs Wild goes more along the lines of straight up action getting dropped out of a plane into nowhere, catching snakes, turtles and your manhood, skinning and eating it alive. Man Vs. Wild is a man's show, like watching MacGuyver. Les Stroud is the Bob Ross of survival shows. "Well, I had some gum in my pocket..." GIVE ME A BREAK! haha



http://boreddreamer.files.wordpress.com/2006/06/head-in-wall.jpg

[samureye]

http://boreddreamer.files.wordpress.com/2006/06/head-in-wall.jpg
http://youtube.com/watch?v=iaHg62KcHqE

[filch]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UpSlpvb1is

he's so hardcore...

[SgtKabukiman]

Um, what's the difference between what Baer does and what Les does? He's given up already. If it was that authentic, he would not get to give up after a few days and go meet the crew, he would have to stay there all 7 days regardless. For both, the crews are there for backup in life or death situations. I have never seen an episode where Baer gives up, and he has the option.

I don't get why people say Les' show is more interesting or authentic. What's authentic about holding nearly 100 pounds of camera equipment extra? Do plane crash survivors do that? Nope. Baer's show is more authentic because they follow him doing what he does natually, so he can focus on anctually doing things, unlike crazy Les Stroud.

A typical show of Survivorman goes like this

"Well hey there, you know, this place is really hot, after a few days it gets to ya. Well, look what I have here in my pocket, some gum, a paperclip, and I happened to find this fishing net here. I also happened to find this skillet and an electric stove out here. Maybe this gum can come in handy to catch some fish too...but I get so lonely out here. Let me play my Harmonica."

Man Vs Wild goes more along the lines of straight up action getting dropped out of a plane into nowhere, catching snakes, turtles and your manhood, skinning and eating it alive. Man Vs. Wild is a man's show, like watching MacGuyver. Les Stroud is the Bob Ross of survival shows. "Well, I had some gum in my pocket..." GIVE ME A BREAK! haha

Dude, I think bear is the man-- but I can't agree with your summaries of the shows...Bear blatantly does segments...havent you see the youtube video of the area next to the highway? His show is to survival as cooking shows are to cooking...everything is a segment...He isn't really out there for days on end doing those things...he films a part, rests back at camp/hotel and films another part. I have no problem with this-- but he acts like he is out there every second on the brink of death-- Les on the other hand is actually out in the woods by himself doing things...also-- he doesnt have a hundred pounds of camera equipment he has like two 3lb handicams...

I just can't see how you believe that man vs. wild is him being dropped in the wild and survivorman isnt....it has been PROVEN that man vs. wild is a segmented show and it is pretty obvious from the show that survivorman isnt...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acYExF4RRqE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UpSlpvb1is

edit: in real life bear is the effing man, and kicks les' ass... keep that in mind

[samureye]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UpSlpvb1is

he's so hardcore...

Hahahaha, that's great. Is there more stuff like it?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vIjQHXOJklU
http://youtube.com/watch?v=6vlEavUH9ng

Still better than Les!

[saqibnk]

Man vs. Wild all the way...I watch shows like this to learn about survival techniques not to just watch some guy film himself. I want a host who will explain and demonstrate. At the end of the day even if Bear sleeps in hotels and gets help, he still ate a zebra, drank from elephant dung, jumped in near freezing water, etc. etc. etc.

[filch]

Man vs. Wild all the way...I watch shows like this to learn about survival techniques not to just watch some guy film himself. I want a host who will explain and demonstrate. At the end of the day even if Bear sleeps in hotels and gets help, he still ate a zebra, drank from elephant dung, jumped in near freezing water, etc. etc. etc.

So Survivorman doesn't teach survival techniques, explain or demonstrate, eats wild animals, get in precarious situations.....

so what OTHER show are you watching.... ? O.o

[SgtKabukiman]

Bear could easily out survive Les and Bear does insane stuff like eat a dead zebra but Les still goes out there and literally proves he can survive...props to him for that and props to bear for being a legit badass.

[seNoj1]

Bear is a beast. Straight up beast. If Bear did a show more like Survivorman than Man vs. Wild where is he more isolated i think that would be the best thing ever. Les is extremely boring, and rarely entertaining.
Bear does the extreme stuff that you really want to see.

[brettville]

Dude, I'm a survival show junkie and I love them both but I've gotta go with SgtKabukiMan and filch on this one. I'm always impressed that Les does his own filming. One of the things that's constantly in the back of my mind when I'm watching Man vs. Wild is how do they get those great shots?!

I want to see more about Bear's camera man! Did you see the one in Alaska (I think. It was definitely in snow.) when he's sliding down the side of a mountain with a broken ski pole to slow him down. The dude stays in frame the whole time!

Okay, Brett's official stance: Bear's camera man FTW
Show I'm more likely to watch...Survivorman.

[LeeM]

I guess it just matters what kind of TV shows you like. Also, they are just TV shows, the majority of which are fake anyways. But both shows are great for the people that like watching them.

[samureye]

I watch both anyway, but well, you know which one I like more :D

[SgtKabukiman]

I watch both anyway, but well, you know which one I like more :D

survivorman, right? ;)

[samureye]

Yep, where Survivorman = Man Vs Wild.

[joker2k3]

I would have to say Survivorman. I like both, but they are different. Baer has his team so he's more likely to take chances. Because theres a team behind him to back him up. Les, is all alone and he can't take the same chances.

To me I look at it like, Baer is the situation where you and a few buddies are stranded, and Les is just you stranded.


But if I had to choose 1 to watch? Survivorman Easy.

[tectec]

Survivorman is pretty boring compared to Man vs Wild

[spinney]

LOLOLOL at the people talking about learning from Bear Grylls. Bear Grylls gives HORRIBLE information that if you follow you will get killed.


here Ill give a link with all of the bad info


* Show was originally supposed to be a more educational, less dangerous program, but was dumbed down (Confirmed by a member of the production team)
* Leaving where you are without urgent need to do so (Critical!)
* Taking unnecessary risks when your life isn't in immediate danger (Critical!)
* Going across obstacles instead of around them to save time (Critical!)
* Pursuing unimportant or long-term needs, with an obsession with protein
* Omission of critical survival skills
* Climbing feats far beyond an inexperienced person's capability

Season 1
Rocky Mountains (Pilot)

* Truly horrible bear advice
* Cliff diving without checking the water depth (Critical!)
* Getting unnecessarily wet (Critical!)
* Heating rocks without taking into account the explosion risk
* 2000 people die lost in the Rockies every year
* Using parachute cord to abseil down a cliff

Moab Desert

* Swimming under an obstacle that you can't see the end of (Critical!)
* Taking risks, burning calories, and losing water to get a small amount of food
* Eating eggshell to prevent calcium deficiency
* No mention made of the cave-in risks of heating a long-unoccupied cave
* Recommending use of a compass cactus without the caveats
* Swimming the Colorado river

Costa Rican Rain Forest

* Making a risky ascent to get your bearings
* Climbing down a waterfall (Critical!)
* No mention of the use of mud to keep mosquitoes away
* Bear’s fire bow demonstration looks like he never did it before and was staged

Alaskan Mountain Range

* Glissading
* Entering an ice tunnel
* Climbing down a waterfall (Critical!)
* Abandoning a near-ideal shelter or location

Mount Kilauea

* Using a shirt as a gas mask
* Not attempting to attract attention from helicopters
* Abandoning a near-ideal shelter or location
* Not spotting the ocean from the summit
* More Kilauea inconsistencies and bad advice (Confirmed by a local resident or regional expert)
* Climbing a tree to pick "ripe" avocados

Sierra Nevada

* Relying on boiled lakewater instead of melted snow
* 2x getting unnecessarily wet (Critical!)
* Abandoning the reasonable plan to follow the river to civilization
* Trying to ride feral horses

African Savanna

* Avoiding drinking dirty stream water but drinking from elephant dung instead

European Alps

* Advising the use of a snow cave without the caveats
* Unnecessarily crossing a frozen lake
* Making a risky ascent to get your bearings
* Using knotted parachute cord to arrest a crevasse fall (Critical!)

Desert Island

* Taking to the sea
* Myth that falling coconuts are significant killers (Trivial)
* Diving into the ocean to cool down
* Coconut oil to protect against the sun
* Signaling ships from 100 miles away
* Moray eel is the second most common type of food poisoning

Season 2
Everglades

* Contaminating a canteen by filling it with untreated water

Iceland

* Entering an ice tunnel
* Diving into icy water (Critical!)
* Getting unnecessarily wet
* Getting into hot water as a solution to hypothermia
* Claiming cooked meat is more nutritional and raw meat wastes calories

Mexico

* Presenting the fire-saw fire starting method as far easier than it is
* Magnetizing a wire for use in a compass by rubbing through hair (Generally Recognized As False)

Kimberley, Australia

* Drinking urine (Critical!)
* Bathing in the same water that you drink

Ecuador

* Poor ropemaking technique for bowstring

Scotland

* Spitting to determine which way is up
* Improper snow pit

http://www.daughtersoftiresias.org/bearwiki/Bad_Advice_and_Inaccuracies

[kahley]

My Friend's dad actually remembers a guy named Les Stroud who was a killer wrestler for some Canadian High School around where he grew up. Plausable?

[saqibnk]

My Friend's dad actually remembers a guy named Les Stroud who was a killer wrestler for some Canadian High School around where he grew up. Plausable?

British SAS vs. High School wrestler...yea ill stick with Man vs. Wild

[scoobydiesel]

meh im late to the party like always but i still like Survivorman, i dunno why but i never got into MvW.