View Full Version : I anticipate no book as much as I do "All Star Batman and Robin"
darron
02-12-2007, 11:09 PM
ALL STAR BATMAN AND ROBIN, THE BOY WONDER #5
Written by Frank Miller
Art and cover by Jim Lee and Scott Williams
Variant cover by Miller
The pulse-pounding adventure continues with the All Star creative team of Frank Miller, Jim Lee and Scott Williams! The Batman puts Dick Grayson to the ultimate test, and the orphaned aerialist must make a difficult choice before becoming Robin, the Boy Wonder!
Retailers please note: This issue is resolicited; all previous orders are cancelled. This issue will ship with two covers that may be ordered separately. The Standard Edition cover is by Jim Lee & Scott Williams; one copy of the Variant Edition, with a cover by Frank Miller, may be ordered for every 10 copies of the Standard Edition ordered. Please see the Previews Order Form for further details.
Resolicited; on sale May 16 ? FC, 32 pg, $2.99 US
I SWEAR to you I didn't put the "?" in after MAY 16. Taken from ign.com.
When did issue 4 come out? Last June or something?
I'll believe it when I'm holding it in my hands
which I can do because I have normal sized hands
sorry jim lee
darron
02-12-2007, 11:17 PM
DUDE! You have 800 posts?! That's awesome. I guess if I could be on the computer most of the day, I'd probably have the same amount. I'm not even mad...that's amazing.
And here I thought you'd come back on my
I'll believe it when I'm holding it in my hands
Yes the posts are building up fast. Tonight is 2 hour 24 as well so it will only get much worse later tonight
acomicbookgirl
02-12-2007, 11:25 PM
800... Damn... Anyone want to place a wager on how many posts Fred can make by tomorrow... I've got over 900... 2 Hour 24... It could happen.. ;)
darron
02-12-2007, 11:27 PM
No man, I didn't disagree with what you said.
Ugh. 24. I wanna watch it so bad, but I've never even seen one episode. God, everyone talks about it so friggin much. That show, Lost, and Heroes I feel I'm missing out on...I'll get the DVDs eventually, but that's a lot of TV to catch up on, yknow?
900+ definitely
I think I usually do about 40-50 or so in 1 hour episodes
No man, I didn't disagree with what you said.
Ugh. 24. I wanna watch it so bad, but I've never even seen one episode. God, everyone talks about it so friggin much. That show, Lost, and Heroes I feel I'm missing out on...I'll get the DVDs eventually, but that's a lot of TV to catch up on, yknow?
dude you're missing it on my comment on your lack of comment on my comment
and 24 has to be seen by everyone always in every situation
you don't speak the language? so what
you're 3? so what
you don't have a tv? get a job
darron
02-12-2007, 11:32 PM
dude you're missing it on my comment on your lack of comment on my comment
and 24 has to be seen by everyone always in every situation
you don't speak the language? so what
you're 3? so what
you don't have a tv? get a job
How can I be missing your comment on the lack of my comment on the lack of your comment?
acomicbookgirl
02-12-2007, 11:34 PM
This is too funny between the two of you... I wish the had the smiley where the smiley is on the floor laughing like they do on Yahoo Messenger... LOL big time... ;)
it's never going to be funny now so I'm going to pass
these things happen
acomicbookgirl
02-12-2007, 11:37 PM
As for All Star Batman and Robin, I wondering about it.. I haven't seen it in my stack for lord knows how long... For a moment I thought the guys at the lcs forgot that its on my pull list... I had to ask... Oh well... I can't wait for All Star Wonder Woman.. :D
darron
02-12-2007, 11:39 PM
these things happen
Quite right, laddy. All the time, they do.
As for All Star Batman and Robin, I wondering about it.. I haven't seen it in my stack for lord knows how long... For a moment I thought the guys at the lcs forgot that its on my pull list...
I honestly thought it was cancelled. Why bother putting out a yearly book?
The problem is that Jim Lee's hands are too small to hold an adult-sized pencil so he has to draw it with a keno pencil
Quite right, laddy. All the time, they do.
I honestly thought it was cancelled. Why bother putting out a yearly book?
funny you should say that, DC's subscription department thought it was cancelled and notified mail subscribers
no I'm not kidding
darron
02-12-2007, 11:42 PM
The problem is that Jim Lee's hands are too small to hold an adult-sized pencil so he has to draw it with a keno pencil
Based on Jim Lee:
http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/tiny_hands/index.jhtml
acomicbookgirl
02-12-2007, 11:42 PM
I gave up on it.. If its in the stack, I read it, if its not.. Oh well.. I love All Star Superman...
antifanboy-jon
02-13-2007, 04:32 AM
All Star Batman and Robin may be the most disappointing book I have ever picked up...primarily the substance, but the delays just add fuel to the fire in the rage of my heart.
humphrey-lee
02-13-2007, 04:38 AM
All Star Batman and Robin may be the most disappointing book I have ever picked up...primarily the substance, but the delays just add fuel to the fire in the rage of my heart.
Then don't buy it. If you already have quality issues, plus you feel slighted by the delays, just don't buy it. It really is that simple.
I personally think they should have quotes on the cover every time an issue does come out that read something like "All Star Batman! Hey, at least we've got a better record than Ultimate Wolverine vs. Hulk!!" or "All Star Batman! At least you figured we'd be late at some point, not like that Civil War junk..." or "All Star Batman! Spartans! Tonight we dine in hell!!!!!!"
antifanboy-jon
02-13-2007, 04:42 AM
Then don't buy it. If you already have quality issues, plus you feel slighted by the delays, just don't buy it. It really is that simple.
I personally think they should have quotes on the cover every time an issue does come out that read something like "All Star Batman! Hey, at least we've got a better record than Ultimate Wolverine vs. Hulk!!" or "All Star Batman! At least you figured we'd be late at some point, not like that Civil War junk..." or "All Star Batman! Spartans! Tonight we dine in hell!!!!!!"
Or... "All Star Batman! I eat Rats!"
I could buy it cause I am a collector, I was just saying that it was ridiculously disappointing. I wasn't complaining that I've been wasting my money on it or anything. It is trash but its trash that has collectible value, and I enjoy the Jim Lee covers.
antifanboy-jon
02-13-2007, 04:43 AM
I gave up on it.. If its in the stack, I read it, if its not.. Oh well.. I love All Star Superman...
All Star Superman should just be called sex, cause thats what it is: blatant, hot, raunchy, dirty, fun SEX
conorkilpatrick
02-13-2007, 05:04 AM
Oh well... I can't wait for All Star Wonder Woman.. :D
And wait you shall... Adam Hughes, while one of my favorite artists, is... shall we say... slow?
Adam Hughes, Jim Lee and Frank Quitely... DC sure picked the three best, slowest artists in the business for the All Star line.
antifanboy-jon
02-13-2007, 05:09 AM
And wait you shall... Adam Hughes, while one of my favorite artists, is... shall we say... slow?
Adam Hughes, Jim Lee and Frank Quitely... DC sure picked the three best, slowest artists in the business for the All Star line.
Adam Hughes is so worth the wait though. SIGHHHHHHHHHH
conorkilpatrick
02-13-2007, 05:34 AM
Adam Hughes is so worth the wait though. SIGHHHHHHHHHH
Agreed.
It's a special treat when he does more than just the cover art.
antifanboy-jon
02-13-2007, 05:40 AM
He's from South Jersey, too, which seems to be MY area.
Hmm, maybe I will grow up to be a superstar artist.
OH WAIT I'M A SUCKER plus I'm terrible at art
acomicbookgirl
02-13-2007, 12:24 PM
And wait you shall... Adam Hughes, while one of my favorite artists, is... shall we say... slow?
Adam Hughes, Jim Lee and Frank Quitely... DC sure picked the three best, slowest artists in the business for the All Star line.
I know he is but I love his work.. Its sooooo worth the wait.. :D
horatio616
02-13-2007, 01:18 PM
All-Star Batman & Robin #6-14. Batman and Robin drive some more. Batman adds contributing to the deliquency of a minor to his ever-growing list of felonies when he forces Dick to drink a bottle of tequila.
Batman hands Dick a stick and tosses him into a pit with a monkey.
Batman: "Only one of you is eating tonight."
Whatever the opposite of jumping the shark is, Frank Miller is that.
miguel_from_ithaca
02-13-2007, 02:03 PM
When I found out that none of the All-Star titles were in the same universe with each other, I was annoyed... then I was oddly intrigued. Has Batman showed up in All-Star Supes yet?
baxter
02-13-2007, 02:09 PM
Batman hands Dick a stick and tosses him into a pit with a monkey.
Batman: "Only one of you is eating tonight."
...I'd start buying it again if he did that.
I just think this whole thing is hilarious. I dropped the book at the "I'm the goddamn batman" line and I'm still only 1 issue behind. That was what, a year and a half ago?
yeah I would buy that too
of course I still theoretically buy it as it is now
horatio616
02-13-2007, 02:28 PM
That was what, a year and a half ago?
What issue was that in? Issue #1 or #2? I think that came out first quarter '96.
I wonder what Miller's getting paid for ASBAR. I heard his paycheck for DK2 was a cool million. Isn't it funny that he's making more money now than he ever did when he was actually good? (And not just good, great.) Anyone read Ronin? Such a gutsy book in it's day. I need to re-read that. When exactly did he put on the leather jacket and the skis? I'm thinking it was Spawn/Batman.
To me, Sin City is merely okay. His last great work was arguably 300, or perhaps even The Man Without Fear.
800... Damn... Anyone want to place a wager on how many posts Fred can make by tomorrow... I've got over 900... 2 Hour 24... It could happen.. ;)
900 didn't happen - nobody is more surprised than me
we need connor back for the 24 thread
in related news, I'm now #9 on the posts list and should be #8 be tomorrow
I don't know if I'm proud or ashamed
a little of both I think
makes me smile as I throw up in my mouth
jgg0610
02-13-2007, 05:59 PM
900 didn't happen - nobody is more surprised than me
we need connor back for the 24 thread
in related news, I'm now #9 on the posts list and should be #8 be tomorrow
I don't know if I'm proud or ashamed
a little of both I think
makes me smile as I throw up in my mouth
I'm just kinda scared because I know how much time I spend on here and I'm not even up to a 100 yet. I can't imagine how you get anything else done. ;)
I multi-task a la Luthor in Superman Red Son
conorkilpatrick
02-13-2007, 07:53 PM
I multi-task a la Luthor in Superman Red Son
Brilliant.
jurassicalien
02-13-2007, 08:04 PM
The problem I have with Jim Lee, is the fact what I'm just wondering what the hell he's doing that he can't do the book? I know he runs Worldstorm, but still. Part of me feels that I don't need a JIm Lee cover to a book and I don't need to read about how he's running another art contest on his site or poker game. I know the man has a life but come on!
Also the fact that he says he won't give the book to anyone else, because of his ego, and he laughs, just kind of pisses me off more.
Granted since it takes place in its own world, it's not a huge deal for the book to be late, but still, if everyone thinks it's been canceled, that's bad.
Also if I were Frank Miller I'd be pissed. I know he's an artist and can take his time. But if I wrote a story two years ago, and it wasn't getting done because the guy who's doing my art is doing poker games and covers, I'd kick his ass off the book.
Granted I"m sure Miller's busy enogh to think about it, but still.
Brilliant.
I just read that(Red Son) over the weekend and it was really good. I liked it a lot and I'm no Superman fan.
jimski
02-13-2007, 08:06 PM
900 didn't happen - nobody is more surprised than me
we need connor back for the 24 thread
in related news, I'm now #9 on the posts list and should be #8 be tomorrow
I don't know if I'm proud or ashamed
Holy crap! There's a thing that says how many posts you've made! And I've made like 100 in the ten minutes since this went online! Judas Priest!
I'm not even going to ask where the list of most frequent posters is. I'm not strong enough.
humphrey-lee
02-13-2007, 08:09 PM
Holy crap! There's a thing that says how many posts you've made! And I've made like 100 in the ten minutes since this went online! Judas Priest!
I'm not even going to ask where the list of most frequent posters is. I'm not strong enough.
I think I'm looking at 100 in three days I think. That's really big progress for me. I'm usually a ten a day poster at my other websites. But I'm already starting to dig talking comics here. Everyone seems to have a pretty good and diverse taste in books. And half the threads here aren't about "Why does Wolverine: Origins suck so bad!!"
I think I'm looking at 100 in three days I think. That's really big progress for me. I'm usually a ten a day poster at my other websites. But I'm already starting to dig talking comics here. Everyone seems to have a pretty good and diverse taste in books. And half the threads here aren't about "Why does Wolverine: Origins suck so bad!!"
that's mainly because I'm on a self-imposed Way-bashing vaction
Holy crap! There's a thing that says how many posts you've made! And I've made like 100 in the ten minutes since this went online! Judas Priest!
I'm not even going to ask where the list of most frequent posters is. I'm not strong enough.
it's here
http://revision3.com/forum/memberlist.php?&order=DESC&sort=posts&pp=30
conorkilpatrick
02-13-2007, 08:15 PM
The problem I have with Jim Lee, is the fact what I'm just wondering what the hell he's doing that he can't do the book? I know he runs Worldstorm, but still. Part of me feels that I don't need a JIm Lee cover to a book and I don't need to read about how he's running another art contest on his site or poker game. I know the man has a life but come on!
Pocket-Sized Jim Lee is the point man on developing the design of the DC Universe MMORPG.
And he's also pencilling WildCATS. Alledgedly.
and this might be new info but I've heard he's quite short
humphrey-lee
02-13-2007, 08:17 PM
that's mainly because I'm on a self-imposed Way-bashing vaction
Next time I see him at a con, I might just ask him how Joe Q's penis tastes like. Y'know, as part of an interview for the website...
horatio616
02-13-2007, 08:47 PM
And he's also pencilling WildCATS. Alledgedly.
It's going like gangbusters. I hear he's doing 4 cross-hatches a day (M-F).
It's going like gangbusters. I hear he's doing 4 cross-hatches a day (M-F).
how does he keep that up?
jgg0610
02-13-2007, 09:46 PM
I multi-task a la Luthor in Superman Red Son
I read it about three months ago for the first time and it was surprisingly good. It was mentioned on the podcast as something worth checking out by Ron of all people (the least DC of the ifanboys) and I figured if an X-men guy liked it, it must be good.
It really was quite good and I liked that Millar actually had the nerve to make him kind of evil with the superman robots and such. It was gutsy
darron
02-13-2007, 11:21 PM
I just read that(Red Son) over the weekend and it was really good. I liked it a lot and I'm no Superman fan.
My favorite Supes story outside of Superman For All Season (which is pants-changing good).
The Lex Luthor in Red Sun is the best Luthor I've ever read. I want to read full books based off him. I also really liked the use of Hal Jordan (Millar even threw Rayner and Gardner in there....although they all got punked) and Batman .
I've never read Superman For All Seasons. Maybe I'll give that a shot too then. Red Son was interesting which is weird for a Superman story
darron
02-13-2007, 11:36 PM
Yea, I have the four original issue, but I know they're collected in a trade (and hopefully a hardcover...I'd love to have this on my shelf)
Jeph Loeb writing, Tim Sale art (oh my goodness is it a good looking book)...what more could you ask?
oh, you didn't tell me that they were the team. Now I definitely need it
darron
02-13-2007, 11:40 PM
Exactly. It REALLY good, bro.
I would read pretty much anything the two of them did
Loeb and Sale's Wetworks would even be a purchase I'd make(if it existed)
conorkilpatrick
02-14-2007, 12:33 AM
http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/image/Superman_Seasons3.jpg
Pastor, what if I could kick Jesus' ass? Should I? Does he have it coming?
mikegraham6
02-16-2007, 01:08 PM
i can't express how much disappointment i have in this book. admittedly my expectations were pretty friggin' high, but thats what happens when you put frank miller and jim lee on a book! now i am angry at the fact that its late to the point of absurdity, but to tell you the truth i dont even notice it. the reason? it was crap! i loved jim lee's art, its always amazing but is it worth the wait? hardly. and now i have to wait for two lee books to crawl out (and the WildCATS art was subpar by his standards anyway)
No question, frank miller writes the best batman, i know everyones favorite is dark knight but i love year one and think its under rated amongst the greats. but i think that robert rodriguez got miller hooked on hollywood cocaine or something. i dont know what he's writing but its not batman.
my only hope is that miller is going somewhere with this, there's got to be some reason why batman is acting so out of character and i hope he explains it. or maybe miller just can't write comics anymore (remember dark knight strikes again?)
I think im just going to go back to reading my year one and remember the good old days
racemccloud
08-23-2007, 11:35 PM
I find myself taking a page from Conor's book these days (or at least, his opinion as he stated it way back in an earlier episode of the podcast.) All-Star Batman and Robin started for me as an utter failure and an unholy mess. Well, today... it's still and Unholy Mess. But it's like the spectacular train wreck of comic books, you can not look away, and I find myself very excited whenever a new issue comes out to see what the hell Frank's going to do to The Goddamn Batman next. And I kind of get the feeling that Frank Miller knows exactly what the hell he's doing to Batman on this book (although I'm not as sure Jim Lee's in on the joke; still, you gotta admit, he sure does draw comic books pretty.) So... I'm totally on board for the rest of All-Star Batman and Robin, because I can't wait to see what part of it blows up next. (BTW... I'm sure there's another post on this up here already somewhere, but i'm too lazy to look for it.)
horatio616
08-23-2007, 11:41 PM
I'm glad you clarified your stance because when I read the topic I was going to suggest you check into the nearest mental health facility immediately!
mikegraham6
08-24-2007, 01:45 PM
i look forward to this book too, for a bunch of different reasons.
I want to see what Miller will have Bats do next and to a lesser extent the other characters, i think he's trying to change them as much as he can while still essentially keeping it the same character (ie what makes batman batman, what makes wonder woman wonder woman, keep that stuff but change everything else). The art is awesome, and it's actually gotten better in the last 2 issues.
the only thing that i have absolutely no interest in is the story, if you ask me now i couldn't tell you what's going on, all i remember is that bats has locked Dick Grayson in the batcave to survive off of rats, but that was like 4 issues ago.....
iSteve
08-24-2007, 01:58 PM
I, too, must confess that I cannot look away either. It draws me in even when I know I should be running screaming in the other direction. What continues to surprise me is how much of a sadist Miller makes Batman out to be. Bats absolutely LOVES beating criminals into a bloody pulp. This Batman shares a certain crazed enjoyment of his life's work with none other than the Joker. They are on different sides of the battle, but both have Jack Nicholson eyes, shining brightly with too much glee at the violence they produce. Miller's Batman is not the Dark Knight, we know and fear. He is a slightly deranged capester desperately in need of drugs and intense therapy. I genuinely fear for poor Robin to be mentor by a person such as this. I get the shivers just thinking about him.
conorkilpatrick
04-07-2008, 07:06 PM
This alternate cover kinda makes me wish I was still buying it:
http://i.newsarama.com/dcnew/allstarbatman/t_asbrFQfixed.jpg
paper
04-07-2008, 07:18 PM
Holy crap.
I'd buy that as a poster. It'd be cool to bookend that with the first All Star Superman cover.
superfriend82
04-07-2008, 07:50 PM
Holy crap.
I'd buy that as a poster. It'd be cool to bookend that with the first All Star Superman cover.
Me too.
xyzzy
04-07-2008, 08:01 PM
I don't know what it is, but I just don't dig most of Quitely's work. Something about the faces/jaws.
meccaed
04-07-2008, 08:02 PM
makes me wish I was still buying it
Go for it!
iSteve
04-07-2008, 08:12 PM
I don't know what it is, but I just don't dig most of Quitely's work. Something about the faces/jaws.
I agree with you about Quitely. His faces appear, for lack of a better word, doughy.
labor_days
04-07-2008, 08:14 PM
Quitely. The man is approaching J.H. Williams III levels in my love of his work. Sweet.
conorkilpatrick
04-07-2008, 08:36 PM
Quitely. The man is approaching J.H. Williams III levels in my love of his work. Sweet.
Would that he could draw everything that I buy....
sigh
six-gun
04-07-2008, 11:24 PM
Would that he could draw everything that I buy....
sigh
such a gorgeous cover
decepticon
04-08-2008, 12:53 AM
Amazing cover...makes me wonder how much better I'd see this book if Quitely were on it with Miller, instead of Lee (who I love his artwork, but can't stand the fact that he is so slow at it!)
Quitely is a fantastic artist, and I'd love to see him draw more.
mikegraham6
04-08-2008, 11:51 AM
I frickin' LOVE Quietly! all you haters can go suck a lemon ;)
I really hope my store has a copy of this cover.
Conor, when did you stop reading All star Batman? was it because of the delays? it seems to be coming out on a regular schedule now and it's gotten really enjoyable, you should look into checking it out (or at least picking up the trade)
wade-wilson
04-08-2008, 01:59 PM
I don't understand all the hate towards this book. Yeah, Batman is written way out of character ... but it's not set in continuity, so why does that make people cry so much?
I just treat it like an Elseworlds book (which is what is basically is) and it's way more entertaining than alot of other books on the shelves.
conorkilpatrick
04-08-2008, 05:17 PM
[QUOTE=Mikegraham6;334954]Conor, when did you stop reading All star Batman? was it because of the delays?/QUOTE]
Yes, the delays. I was really enjoying it before that.