'Bleh' - General Something or Other for 9/whatever/oh seven

[paper]

I just put up a new blog entry (http://virb.com/fuzzytypewriter/blog/269339) on VIRB. Good friend of mine Pat Grubb (http://virb.com/neuropolis) is just graduating with his degree in animation. He's engineered a really cool demo reel for the big final presentation night this week, hoping to make some contacts and get his name out there. He's new to VIRB, but he plans on using it as a vehicle for his animation and other projects. The demo's dope as hell, so go check it out, and if you're a VIRB member, friend him up and say hey.

[kahunablair]

Hey Paper, just watched the demo, not to shabby.
I really like the character design of Manson and Darius. His concept is really a good one.

[Luthor]

Bringing up something from a few months back....


http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3560015&page=1

It appears as though Chris Benoit was suffering from major brain damage.

"The tests, conducted by Julian Bailes of the Sports Legacy Institute, show that Benoit's brain was so severely damaged it resembled the brain of an 85-year-old Alzheimer's patient."

[ConorKilpatrick]

It appears as though Chris Benoit was suffering from major brain damage.

"The tests, conducted by Julian Bailes of the Sports Legacy Institute, show that Benoit's brain was so severely damaged it resembled the brain of an 85-year-old Alzheimer's patient."

Wow, I'm shocked. :rolleyes:

[Six Gun]

Wow, I'm shocked. :rolleyes:

I thought wrestling was staged :eek:

[kahunablair]

Every single iPod is getting changed! Sweet.

[ConorKilpatrick]

10:05am - "This last statistic blew my mind: in the US of all the music releases in 2006, 32% were digital-only releases. They weren't released on a CD. Live concerts, independents. Look how far we've come. A THIRD of the music released in this country was digital only."

"iTunes is clearly leading the way. We're going to ship a new version of iTunes tonight to support some new products. The biggest new feature: ringtones."

10:06am - Big applause. "We're going to do ringtones in our own special way. Of course these are for the iPhone. What we want: rather than let someone else make ringtones, we people to be able to make their own." Build your own from songs bought in iTunes, 500k participating songs...

10:07am - "Our ringtones are going to cost just $.99 in addition to the song." Psh! You have to pay a second time to use a purchased song as a ringtone?!

0:15am - "It's the most popular music player in history. People just love it. We want to make it better, and customers have told us how we can make it better. Customers want to watch video on their nanos on an even larger, brighter display. We'd like to put Cover Flow in, we think it's a great way to browse your music library."

"Games. More storage, and a full metal design. We're introducing a new nano here today... let me show it to you." It's the fatty!

10:16am - "It's incredibly tiny, this is the new nano, it's incredibly thin. It's REALLY nice." Huge applause. "Let me show you some bigger pictures of it... comes in beautiful colors. So what's the video like? New nano: larger 2-inch screen, it's going to look the same as it did on the iPod video, it's the same QVGA resolution. We've achieved this with a screen with the highest pixel density we've ever shipped."

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/09/dsc_7609.jpg

[kahunablair]

Watching the same Engadget feed I see Conor! haha

[ConorKilpatrick]

10:17am - "We've also got an enhanced UI. It's going to show you album artwork floating by. When you're on videos... photos... it will even show you what you're going to get when going to extras. And we've got Cover Flow. Take your thumb, roll it around the wheel, it looks really nice. It's pretty stunning, all in such a tiny device. We're really, really happy with this."

10:18am - "We're also including 3 games bundled in with the nano. Let me show you one now, it's called Vortex." Demo time -- it's basically Arkanoid made circular. "We've also done some other games we're selling on iTunes."

Demoing EA's Sudoku game.

10:20am - "Isn't that incredible? All in a product this big. Video, new UI with Cover Flow, games... let's take a look at the new iPod nano." Demo time again, Beatles album artwork in screen. He does this every time!

[ConorKilpatrick]

Watching the same Engadget feed I see Conor! haha

It's funny because I don't really care all that much. I'm not a Mac person... at all. But, inexplicably, I find it all fascinating.

[kahunablair]

It's funny because I don't really care all that much. I'm not a Mac person... at all. But, inexplicably, I find it all fascinating.

I know what you mean. Steve Job's has that PT Barnum thing going on.
Two of the girls I work with are hitting refresh like crazy, and they won't be buying anything he announces.

[kahunablair]

A 160 GB iPod? Good lord that's massive.

[ConorKilpatrick]

10:24am - "When we went about replacing the most popular music player in the world we took this really seriously. We think we've nailed it with the new nano. The battery life is awesome: 24 hours audio, 5 hours video playback." Applause and cheers.

10:25am - "Let's talk about storage: a 4GB and an 8GB version. The 4GB version will come in silver, the 8GB will come in all the colors. The 4GB will be priced at just $149. The 8GB version will be just $199." Applause.

10:28am - "We've got new iPod Classics: full metal design, even thinner than their predecessors. The new classic is starting at 80GB audio 30 hours, video 6 hours. And we've got the whole enhanced UI on the new iPod classic." Sorry, iPod touch is a no go! Unless it's a one last thing...


10:29am - We're going to offer a slightly thicker one as well... and it's going to have 160GB." applause. "This BOGGLES the mind! This new 160GB, which is far smaller than the original iPod, puts 40k songs in your pocket. Even better: battery life. 40 hours audio, 7 hours video."

10:30am - "The 80GB used to sell for 350, now it's 250.The 160GB is $350." Applause. "They're both available today, they're shipping and be in stores by this weekend. We think you're gonna love 'em, and the enclosure is just gorgeous. So let's take a look at the iPod lineup for this holiday season..." review time.

10:31am - "This is an incredibly iPod lineup for this holiday season." Applause. But he's not done. "But... we're not done yet. Far from it."

"When we introduced the iPhone in Jan, we said it was the best iPod ever. and iPhone owners agree with us, it's incredible with its multi-touch interface, it is the best iPod ever. People have been asking us when we're going to bring this technology to the iPod. The answer is we're going to do it today. And this is what the product looks like." It's a friggin iPhone!

It's called the iPod Touch.

10:32am - "It's the same size screen as the iPhone, but it's even thinner. It's 8mm thin. Unbelievable. The new iPod touch. It's one of the 7 wonders of the world." Laughter.

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/09/dsc_7640.jpg

[ConorKilpatrick]

10:33am - "It features our revolutionary multi-touch interface that you've come to know and love on the iPhone. If you've used an iPhone you'll feel at home, it's exactly the same. Scroll through the artists with a flick of your finger. Turn it into a landscape position, it goes into Cover Flow, it's just magical."

10:34am - "All on this 8mm device. Let's look at video... all on this gorgeous 3.5-inch widescreen display. And photos... just like the iPhone this is the best way to share photos on a portable device. Ever. Flick through them, pinch them to make them larger or smaller."

10:38am - "Let's take a look at photos here... it's great, let's go into an album... I can just go like this, flick through these photos. There's just never been a better way to share photos with friends on the go. It's sooo nice. Turn it back. Boom." Icons: calendar, contacts, clock, calc, settings, music, videos, photo..."I showed you the clean side... I was keeping a secret. We've built in WiFi to the iPod touch." The antenna looks, um, bad.

10:39am - 802.11b/g -- "Others have done this and it's failed. We understand why it's failed, and we know what to do make it successful. Well, what's the problem with WiFi? Well, part of the problem is getting onto WiFi... you may be fine at home and the office, but anywhere in between can be challenging."

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/09/dsc_7647.jpg

10:40am - "You may log in but you'll get a screen. Even walking through Stanford University you get a login page... so you can build in the hardware but you can't get the network [without the page]. So what do you do about that? We're going to add an application to the touch: the Safari web browser."

[ConorKilpatrick]

10:41am - This really is the phone-less iPhone. "But besides being able to log into WiFi, you get an incredible web browser! It is the best web browser on any mobile device, and it's built in to the iPod touch."

10:42am - "We're very, very excited about this. First time EVER on a music player to have a browser built in." Uh, totally not true: look at Archos. "Why stop there?" YouTube's on the Touch as well.

10:43am - "Watch millions of free videos streaming over WiFi to the iPod touch. Let me show you these things..." Demo time! The hidden icons are now apparent -- the two missing were Safari and YouTube. Still looks a little sparse though!

Looking on the NYT. "We can go over here... boom." Aw, it was a little boom that time.

10:44am - Steve's now browsing Facebook. "We're pretty excited about this." Applause.

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/09/dsc_7653.jpg

10:45am - Bookmarked videos... "You get the idea, this gives you a feeling for what Safari and YouTube are like on the new iPod touch. We've built WiFi in and we've made it USABLE. We're REALLY excited about this."

10:46am - Connector on the bottom, but no speakers. "This is a worldwide product, the first touch product Apple's going to ship outside the US, it's going to be shipping all around the world."

[ConorKilpatrick]

10:47am - Review time: multi touch, widescreen iPhone display, Cover Flow, Wifi, Safari / YouTube... "We're going to offer it in two configurations, the first is 8GB, the second is 16GB of storage. Again, how do you fit all this in here?"

10:48am - So, 8GB is $299... the price for the 16GB is $399." Less applause on the second one. "Both models are available in just a few weeks... they'll be shipping this month."

[Labor_Days]

Were I a rich man I would choose to love in a world surrounded by Apple products.

[Luthor]

Anyone wanna buy a 60gb Ipod video for $350us? That's still $100 less then what I paid for it less then a year ago.

[Labor_Days]

I'm super excited for that 160 model. Got the 80B iPod and it's a drag moving stuff between multiple mp3 players and such. I need more space.

[kahunablair]

"So we're going to do something about that today. We're on track to ship our 1mth iPhone this month -- to get ready for the holidays here's what we're going to do. It's clear clear customers want the 8GB model -- it's not going to sell for 599 anymore.


"Starting today effective immediately, we're pricing it at just $399." HUGE applause.

WHAT THE ****???

[Labor_Days]

An iPhone is my future. No longer will I feel the shame of carrying about an outdated Treo. Finally, I may reach those lofty heights of civilized men.

[ConorKilpatrick]

WHAT THE ****???

Early adopters alwats get burned.

[Labor_Days]

Kahuna, think of it like this; for a time that extra $200 bought you the admiration and envy of every asshole like me who couldn't afford an iPhone previously.

Did you really lose in the end?

[esophagus]

10:30am - "The 80GB used to sell for 350, now it's 250.The 160GB is $350." Applause. "They're both available today, they're shipping and be in stores by this weekend. We think you're gonna love 'em, and the enclosure is just gorgeous. So let's take a look at the iPod lineup for this holiday season..." review time.So stoked. I'm using a 30 right now, and with the iPods apple junk of its own I'm only getting abut 27 gigs, which is plenty less than the amount of music/video I have. I'm going to be all over the 160gb, or the cheaper 80 at the least.

Did the iPhone come down in price? Or is that what it was when it was released?

[Labor_Days]

Dropped in price.

[ConorKilpatrick]

Did the iPhone come down in price? Or is that what it was when it was released?

"So we're going to do something about that today. We're on track to ship our 1mth iPhone this month -- to get ready for the holidays here's what we're going to do. It's clear customers want the 8GB model -- it's not going to sell for 599 anymore... Starting today effective immediately, we're pricing it at just $399." HUGE applause.

[Mikegraham6]

not to take away from drooling over apple products or anything, but it looks like some comic shops will be getting their books in today. My LCS emailed me to say that they are availible, maybe you guys should give your store a call to see if they got their shipment

[kahunablair]

Kahuna, think of it like this; for a time that extra $200 bought you the admiration and envy of every asshole like me who couldn't afford an iPhone previously.
Did you really lose in the end?

I'm not really pissed. I was only a wee bit shocked. I wouldn't trade my time with my beloved for anything.

[kahunablair]

not to take away from drooling over apple products or anything, but it looks like some comic shops will be getting their books in today. My LCS emailed me to say that they are availible, maybe you guys should give your store a call to see if they got their shipment
How dare you interrupt us sir!! ;)
Thanks for the heads up. I'll be calling my store in a few minutes.

If anyone wants an even cheaper iPhone read on...
It's true, Apple has no more use for the puny capacity of its 4GB iPhone, and is selling off the remaining stock at $299. Get 'em while the getting's good! Oh, and yeah, that means the Apple Store is finally back up, after an extended hiatus, so feel free to plunder your checking account with all of Apple's new wares.

http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/09/05/apple-killing-4gb-iphone-299-while-supplies-last/

[Labor_Days]

I'm using a 30 right now, and with the iPods apple junk of its own I'm only getting abut 27 gigs,

Hold on, now. Do you mean the drive formatting? You pretty much have to format any drive to be able to read/write to it reliably. A certain amount of disk space is always lost (well, not really but explaining decimals is boring) in the process. Apple are not sticking gigs of bloatware in your iPod in any case.

[Mikegraham6]

looks like transfomers won't be coming to blu-ray on oct 16th... this upsets me

link (http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=6268)

[kahunablair]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEJ0YvXWtSQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEJ0YvXWtSQ
I got a chuckle out of this. Figured I'd throw it up, in case someone else would to.

[fred]

A certain amount of disk space is always lost (well, not really but explaining decimals is boring) in the process.

The fast explanation (while still boring) is that there are 1024 kilobytes in a megabyte (rather than 1000). So basically every mb is underestimated by 24 kb. The scope of this becomes more visible as the drive size increases. For instance, my hard drive is 100GB but registers as approximately 90.

[paper]

Discuss things here. General things.

[Mikegraham6]

jeez, try not to so enthusiastic

[ConorKilpatrick]

I like cheese.

[fred]

I like porn

[Mikegraham6]

The fast explanation (while still boring) is that there are 1024 kilobytes in a megabyte (rather than 1000). So basically every mb is underestimated by 24 kb. The scope of this becomes more visible as the drive size increases. For instance, my hard drive is 100GB but registers as approximately 90.
see this annoys me for the sole reason that when they created the whole concept of KB and MBs why didn't they even out the whole thing? it's not like we're dealing with something natural, it man made for gods sake!

[Mikegraham6]

kitten pie tastes delicious

[Mikegraham6]

Here's an interview with the "great" Todd McFarlane (http://comics.ign.com/articles/817/817831p1.html) about the upcoming Oz adaptation

[esophagus]

Hold on, now. Do you mean the drive formatting? You pretty much have to format any drive to be able to read/write to it reliably. A certain amount of disk space is always lost (well, not really but explaining decimals is boring) in the process. Apple are not sticking gigs of bloatware in your iPod in any case.I understand that. I in know way believe its an apple fault, I'm sure it's worse with plenty of players. I just meant because I have plenty more than 27 gigs of music/videos. I love the thing, and think it stores a great amount. But bigger is always better.

[esophagus]

Porn and cheese don't go well together. Even swiss.

[paper]

I'm watching the Apple keynote now. Is it time for me to get an iPhone?

[esophagus]

Perhaps chase down one of the remaining 4gigs? Get a sweet deal.

[paper]

I wouldn't buy a 4GB anything.

[Labor_Days]

The fast explanation (while still boring) is that there are 1024 kilobytes in a megabyte (rather than 1000). So basically every mb is underestimated by 24 kb. The scope of this becomes more visible as the drive size increases. For instance, my hard drive is 100GB but registers as approximately 90.

Fred's been flying his nerd flag all day. ;)

But yes, that's the gist of it. Common enough a mistake to point out the truth of every so often.

[paper]

I should get the phone right? I should totally get the ****ing phone. Kahuna, should I get the phone?

I should get the iPhone, right?

I mean why shouldn't I? I can't think of a reason why I shouldn't just get the phone.

Kahuna, help! I broke myself!

[fred]

Fred's been flying his nerd flag all day. ;)


little bit

[fred]

see this annoys me for the sole reason that when they created the whole concept of KB and MBs why didn't they even out the whole thing? it's not like we're dealing with something natural, it man made for gods sake!

well, since you asked .....

It basically comes down to the binary concept. Everything in a computer is binary at its root. Storage capacities are affected by this because the physical memory locations are binary.

A binary number is a number whose digits are expressed as 1 or 0. So, binary numbers work in powers of 2. 1024 is 2 to the 9th power. 1024 in binary is 1111111111.

This is similar to the base-10 system that you're familiar with. For instance, in the number 47 (in base 10), this number represents 7 groups of 1 and 4 groups of 10. The ones column is the number of groups of 10 to the 0 power (which is 1) and the tens column is 10 to the 1 power (which is 10).

In much the same way that you can't drop the "7" from 47 (and still call it the same number), you can't drop the extra 24 from 1024.

If you're still reading at this point you deserve a purple heart. Nipple, orange, fruit paste. Have you seen my aardvark?

[paper]

You guys were spoiled on the metric system.

There are no absolutes!

[Labor_Days]

well, since you asked .....Anyone want to see a sweet rack (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/IBM_HS20_blade_server.jpg)?

[fred]

and it's pronounced "scuzzy" in case you wondered.

The worst part was my exclamation: "oooh 4 RAM slots"

[fred]

I'd like to set her jumpers

<hangs head>

If you'll excuse me, I need to go get a pep talk from Owen Wilson now.

[Jimski]

We're on track to ship our 1mth iPhone this month -- to get ready for the holidays here's what we're going to do. It's clear customers want the 8GB model -- it's not going to sell for 599 anymore... Starting today effective immediately, we're pricing it at just $399.

If you can buy a 160GB something, why would you ever buy an 8GB anything? For more?? It makes phone calls? This Kool-Aid tastes funny.

That 160GB iPod costs as much as the 40GB one I bought in April 2005. Technology never appreciates, my children. Tell the people.

Hey!: Has Jim Lee never drawn Spider-Man? Apropos of nothing.

[Labor_Days]

Um, there is a difference between an upgraded iPod and an iPhone.

[paper]

Isn't the style of hard drive different as well? Flash based and the older, bulkier technology? Flash is faster but getting anything higher than 16GB is too expensive right now. Is that correct?

But Labor's right. You're not just paying for a phone, you're paying for the web browser, email, YouTube, widescreen functions...

It's a cool lineup because there's something for everybody. I'm assuming Labor likes the 160GB option for all his music. The wireless iTunes store wouldn't appeal to him as much because he doesn't purchase his music that way. But for me, it's really pretty ideal. I'd like more storage than 8GB, but it isn't a deal breaker because I've been perfectly happy with my 8GB nano for a while now. I'm really playlist-centric anyway. The new Shuffles and nanos are great for joggers or anybody who needs something a little more portable.

Personally, I'm pretty close to making the decision to buy the iPhone. I'll still be using my nano for morning workouts, running, biking, etc.

[Labor_Days]

Isn't the style of hard drive different as well? Flash based and the older, bulkier technology? Flash is faster but getting anything higher than 16GB is too expensive right now. Is that correct?

You are correct, sir.

[kahunablair]

I should get the phone right? I should totally get the ****ing phone. Kahuna, should I get the phone?
I should get the iPhone, right?
I mean why shouldn't I? I can't think of a reason why I shouldn't just get the phone.
Kahuna, help! I broke myself!

Brother you are at the point I was. I was so darn torn, that I really didn't know. So I was a weak, pathetic little man and gave in.

But Labor's right. You're not just paying for a phone, you're paying for the web browser, email, YouTube, widescreen functions...

In all honesty, because of all the functionality of the iPhone, my next computer purchase is going to be a desktop. I'm giving up my laptop.

[paper]

Those new iMacs are sexy. You'd be getting one of those, right? I checked out the new super-thin (wired) keyboard in the store. Really, really nice. I'm hopefully going to grab (the bluetooth) one in a month or two.

The iPhone browser when not in wi-fi...isn't so bad? I feel like even if it isn't lightning quick, it's still a lot more convenient than trying to find internet access elsewhere.

[Labor_Days]

It's a cool lineup because there's something for everybody. I'm assuming Labor likes the 160GB option for all his music. The wireless iTunes store wouldn't appeal to him as much because he doesn't purchase his music that way.

Holy hells. Are you spying on me? Who told you all this about me?

WHO ARE YOUR SOURCES!

(You got me to a tee, Paper. The 160GB iPod is my new hotness.)

[paper]

Hey, I pay attention. :D

[fred]

160 GB iPod for $349? Can you hear that? My nipples feel all static-y and shit.

[kahunablair]

Those new iMacs are sexy. You'd be getting one of those, right? I checked out the new super-thin (wired) keyboard in the store. Really, really nice. I'm hopefully going to grab (the bluetooth) one in a month or two.

I'm considering the iMac heavily. I haven't used a Mac in years though. So I have some more thinking to do.

The iPhone browser when not in wi-fi...isn't so bad? I feel like even if it isn't lightning quick, it's still a lot more convenient than trying to find internet access elsewhere.
It isn't that horrible using the non-wifi browser. As long as you don't expect it to be blazing fast and you're realistic, you won't have a problem with it.

On a side note, I'm amazed how many places have free wi-fi these days. I was texting while in the drivethru the other day at the BKLounge, and was shocked to see my phone had a wifi signal.

[paper]

Alright. Science question. Time to speculate, m' nerds.

How long do you think it will be before we can wirelessly sync our iPods to a computer or other digital hub in the house from anywhere on our commute?

Take the AppleTV. I can choose to sync it to my laptop in a number of different ways. I can have it remove a show from its drive after I watch it. I can adjust playlists manually on the laptop. When will I be able to take out my iPod at the train station, decide I want a video or song sitting on my computer at home, adjust my sync preferences on the iPod, and pull that video or song right to my iPod?

I guess it's all a matter of having an all-encompassing wi-fi net over my little world or having a stronger signal from my router, maybe a stronger antennae on the iPod itself. Could this happen? Would it happen sooner than a 1TB Shuffle?

[paper]

I'm considering the iMac heavily. I haven't used a Mac in years though. So I have some more thinking to do.

I have not for a second missed my days as a PC user. You're an artist. Doooooo it. :D

[ConorKilpatrick]

Alright. Science question. Time to speculate, m' nerds.

How long do you think it will be before we can wirelessly sync our iPods to a computer or other digital hub in the house from anywhere on our commute?

Take the AppleTV. I can choose to sync it to my laptop in a number of different ways. I can have it remove a show from its drive after I watch it. I can adjust playlists manually on the laptop. When will I be able to take out my iPod at the train station, decide I want a video or song sitting on my computer at home, adjust my sync preferences on the iPod, and pull that video or song right to my iPod?

I guess it's all a matter of having an all-encompassing wi-fi net over my little world or having a stronger signal from my router, maybe a stronger antennae on the iPod itself. Could this happen? Would it happen sooner than a 1TB Shuffle?

Oh, 1993... how we dreamed of a wondrous future...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZb0avfQme8

[kahunablair]

When will I be able to take out my iPod at the train station, decide I want a video or song sitting on my computer at home, adjust my sync preferences on the iPod, and pull that video or song right to my iPod?


As long as you have a good enough connection it can be done now. There are a crap load of programs out there that allow you to link the iPhone up with your home computer.

I have not for a second missed my days as a PC user. You're an artist. Doooooo it. :D

How about you buy me an iMac and I'll buy you an iPhone?

[Labor_Days]

How long do you think it will be before we can wirelessly sync our iPods to a computer or other digital hub in the house from anywhere on our commute?

Not long at all. The built-in Wi-Fi means we are half there already. iTunes has long had the ability to connect to devices remotely as well. Rather through some sort of specialized dongle or our existing adapters, remote synching is a logical extension of the device.

[fred]

Alright. Science question. Time to speculate, m' nerds.

How long do you think it will be before we can wirelessly sync our iPods to a computer or other digital hub in the house from anywhere on our commute?

Take the AppleTV. I can choose to sync it to my laptop in a number of different ways. I can have it remove a show from its drive after I watch it. I can adjust playlists manually on the laptop. When will I be able to take out my iPod at the train station, decide I want a video or song sitting on my computer at home, adjust my sync preferences on the iPod, and pull that video or song right to my iPod?

I guess it's all a matter of having an all-encompassing wi-fi net over my little world or having a stronger signal from my router, maybe a stronger antennae on the iPod itself. Could this happen? Would it happen sooner than a 1TB Shuffle?

You could do this now if you had the desire, patience, and knowledge to develop your own "third party" software. I believe that everything that you mention is presently technologically possible. Further, if you give me like $50K and 6 months - I'll hook you up.

[Labor_Days]

Hey, do any of the iFanboys have an iPhone? Just curious how they spend their millions.

(Ron, I'm looking in your direction.)

[paper]

From anywhere?

The only hitch is that I couldn't just remove content from the iPhone's hard drive. So if I was at max capacity when I left in the morning, I couldn't replace it with new content....right?

[Labor_Days]

Um, maayyybe. Depends on how the software is implemented and rather it's from Apple.

[paper]

Hey, do any of the iFanboys have an iPhone? Just curious how they spend their millions.

(Ron, I'm looking in your direction.)

If any of one of them had one I'd bet it'd be Ron (he tipped me to getting the AppleTV), but Conor did say that AT&T sucks in NY.

[ConorKilpatrick]

Hey, do any of the iFanboys have an iPhone? Just curious how they spend their millions.

(Ron, I'm looking in your direction.)

Negative. We all want one to varying degrees, but not so far. Ron and I would probably already have one if they were offered on Verizon.

[paper]

The setup I'm suggesting would pretty much make the idea of running out of space on a hard drive relatively moot. If I were Apple I'd be working on that shit right now.

[fred]

From anywhere?

The only hitch is that I couldn't just remove content from the iPhone's hard drive. So if I was at max capacity when I left in the morning, I couldn't replace it with new content....right?

Anywhere that has wifi access.

As for storage, you could theoretically add new shit to the phone, sync back to the house, delete from the phone, and import new stuff from the house. Again, if you built it you could probably do this automatically. So, Paper's at house A and rips a CD. Said content goes to House B (where he lives). Said content is deleted from iPhone. New podcasts that have been downloaded are pushed back to phone. It's a fairly simply leap to automation. You have built-in events to look for - you wouldn't even have to worry about timing it or anything complex like that.

[esophagus]

Anyone want to see a sweet rack (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/IBM_HS20_blade_server.jpg)?
I was hoping that was going to be the Mad TV clip about the "iRack".

iMac = Next computer
160gig iPod = I need it now!

[Jimski]

Um, there is a difference between an upgraded iPod and an iPhone.

There absolutely is: one has 160GB of storage, and one has eight. Or, if one prefers to look at it another way, twenty times less.

Or should I be looking at this as a nano with $300 worth of extras?

[esophagus]

There absolutely is: one has 160GB of storage, and one has eight. Or, if one prefers to look at it another way, twenty times less.

Or should I be looking at this as a nano with $300 worth of extras?
Last time I checked a nano wasn't $49. But yeah, the iPhone definitely has it's money worth of extras. Not the least of hwich is the fact that it's a phone, and a computer.

[paper]

There absolutely is: one has 160GB of storage, and one has eight. Or, if one prefers to look at it another way, twenty times less.

Or should I be looking at this as a nano with $300 worth of extras?


..........


One has a web browser. One doesn't.

On one you could view this site and post on it. On the other you can't.

[Jimski]

Oh Lord, let's just agree that I am not going to Get It when it comes to the amazing phone that's a web that's a shitty music player and end the dogpile. I have walked into the wrong room! It's on me! I can change, baby!

[Labor_Days]

One could also argue that iPhone is geared toward smart phone users that want the ability to store files and play music. Whereas the iPod is geared toward music lovers who wish to take a large portion of their collection on the go.

There is a difference in how people see the two devices, however subtle it may be.

[kahunablair]

As long as you have a good enough connection it can be done now. There are a crap load of programs out there that allow you to link the iPhone up with your home computer.


Ok found the program I was thinking of Paper. It's called Telekinesis...
Here are some high-level features (which I have tried most of):

* Stream music and video from your computer
* Screen captures and mouse click support
* iTunes remote control
* File browsing
* Run AppleScripts remotely
* iSight image capture
* Spotlight search
* Ability to add additional application support

http://weblog.techdad.net/2007/08/15/iphone-app-telekinesis-remote-access-your-mac-through-mini-web-apps-on-iphone/

Oh, 1993... how we dreamed of a wondrous future..

Another thing that this clip reminded me of, is that I found a new site that is made specifically for the iPhone.
http://textoniphone.com has a bunch of books that you can read on your phone. The web site tracks where you leave off, and keeps a reading list available.
Best part? It's free baby.

[esophagus]

Truth. Plenty of cellphones are now music players. They cost almost the same price, if oyu want to avoid a contract, and they will hold maybe a gig, two at the most. The iPhone is just trumping all of these phones. It isn't meant to be the iPod. An apple laptop will hold and play music too, and I'm sure it has a sizable harddrive, and definitely a bigger screen. To me that isn't a "glorified iPod.

[esophagus]

* iSight image captureIt's a camera?

[cormano]

Looks like it's finally time to put down my 1 gb Creative Zen Nano… I ordered an 8 gb iPod Touch.

I can't wait. 8 gigs seems like plenty, considering that I'm used to 1.

[kahunablair]

It's a camera?

The iSight referred to in that quote is for the Mac that you're connected to. Say you're on the road, and you use the Telekinesis app to connect to your Mac. You can tell your Mac to take a picture using the camera on the computer and send it to you. Good for parents to keep an eye on baby sitters or paranoid people to watch for burglars.

Now all that being said, yes the iPhone has a 2.0 megapixel camera, that is quite nice.

[esophagus]

The iSight referred to in that quote is for the Mac that you're connected to. Say you're on the road, and you use the Telekinesis app to connect to your Mac. You can tell your Mac to take a picture using the camera on the computer and send it to you. Good for parents to keep an eye on baby sitters or paranoid people to watch for burglars.

Now all that being said, yes the iPhone has a 2.0 megapixel camera, that is quite nice.
That's a really strange feature. Could be good though.

[fred]

Good for parents to keep an eye on baby sitters or paranoid people to watch for burglars.


You forget to mention the positive impact for peeping toms.

[kahunablair]

That's a really strange feature. Could be good though.

Telekinesis is a third party app though. It's not standard on the iPhone.

You forget to mention the positive impact for peeping toms.

Attempting to keep it clean tonight Fred. It's extremely hard to do that though man!

[paper]

Taking a picture with the iSight would be kind of...conspicuous, wouldn't it? The whole screen flashes.

[esophagus]

While we're on the tech thing, I'll flip it to the opposite side of the spectrum. Anyone heard much about the Surface? This is the next big thing I'm pretty stoked for. I was actually considering keeping my iPod for a couple of years and buying a Zune when this came out. The 160gig iPod has changed my mind though.

[fred]

Attempting to keep it clean tonight Fred. It's extremely hard to do that though man!

just saying - if you need a way to pay for all of this expensive machinery

awww nevermind

[kahunablair]

While we're on the tech thing, I'll flip it to the opposite side of the spectrum. Anyone heard much about the Surface? This is the next big thing I'm pretty stoked for. I was actually considering keeping my iPod for a couple of years and buying a Zune when this came out. The 160gig iPod has changed my mind though.

Please explain what Surface is to this Apple Zombie?
Is Surface the touch screen app that Microsoft's been working on?

[fred]

http://www.microsoft.com/surface/

[esophagus]

Please explain what Surface is to this Apple Zombie?
Is Surface the touch screen app that Microsoft's been working on?
http://www.microsoft.com/surface/

[paper]

It's like a coffee table computer, right?

[fred]

It's like a coffee table computer, right?

indeed sir

quite a cool (but exceptionally expensive) idea

I like the on the fly photo resizing

[esophagus]

It's like a coffee table computer, right?Basically. With plenty of really sweet features. Theyre going to be about $1500 a piece and only for commercial use, but within the next year to two after release they should come down to a fairly reasonable price, and great for home use.

Edit: Stop doing that fred! Eff. Is anyone elses rev3 running really slow? It's taking me minutes to post. Everything else runs fine.

[itsbecca]

While we're on the tech thing, I'll flip it to the opposite side of the spectrum. Anyone heard much about the Surface? This is the next big thing I'm pretty stoked for. I was actually considering keeping my iPod for a couple of years and buying a Zune when this came out. The 160gig iPod has changed my mind though.

The surface is flipping awesome. That's why I love MS,they're truly trying to bring in new technology to the people instead of purely design (although, seriously vista is beautiful). I think the only big company I dig more is google.

[kahunablair]

OK, I do know what this is.

Do me a favor, go to an Apple or AT&T store and mess around with an iPhone.
Use two fingers to pinch the photos, slide your finger across the screen and flip through the albums or emails.
It is pretty much the same thing. The only thing that is really missing is the bluetooth syncing when you place something on top of the surface.

[kahunablair]

The surface is flipping awesome. That's why I love MS,they're truly trying to bring in new technology to the people instead of purely design (although, seriously vista is beautiful). I think the only big company I dig more is google.
It's actually not a MS invention. It's originally a MIT students, MS just knew a good idea when they saw it.

[itsbecca]

OK, I do know what this is.

Do me a favor, go to an Apple or AT&T store and mess around with an iPhone.
Use two fingers to pinch the photos, slide your finger across the screen and flip through the albums or emails.
It is pretty much the same thing. The only thing that is really missing is the bluetooth syncing when you place something on top of the surface.

The iphone is not, and is not even trying to be, a desktop.

[esophagus]

OK, I do know what this is.

Do me a favor, go to an Apple or AT&T store and mess around with an iPhone.
Use two fingers to pinch the photos, slide your finger across the screen and flip through the albums or emails.
It is pretty much the same thing. The only thing that is really missing is the bluetooth syncing when you place something on top of the surface.If apple came out with a home computer that was anything like this, it would probably be my preference... And cost $4000.

[kahunablair]

The iphone is not, and is not even trying to be, a desktop.

True, but if it's the Minority Report style of interaction that is what draws you to Surface, I'd recommend seeing it on the iPhone.

If apple came out with a home computer that was anything like this, it would probably be my preference... And cost $4000.
They'll probably wait a year after MS puts it out, then re introduce it as a streamlined metal and white beast. People will hail it as being revolutionary even though it's been done before.

[fred]

Basically. With plenty of really sweet features. Theyre going to be about $1500 a piece and only for commercial use, but within the next year to two after release they should come down to a fairly reasonable price, and great for home use.

Edit: Stop doing that fred! Eff. Is anyone elses rev3 running really slow? It's taking me minutes to post. Everything else runs fine.

according to this article (http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2007/05/30/tech-surface.html)(and a few others I've seen), the price is likely to initially be in the $5000-$10000 range.

[esophagus]

True, but if it's the Minority Report style of interaction that is what draws you to Surface, I'd recommend seeing it on the iPhone.It's not just the touch screen that makes it interesting, it's the million things you can do with it.

[paper]

There's a third party version which is more on the Apple end of things. Saw this on Gizmodo this morning:

ROSIE coffee table (http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/savant/rosie-coffee-table-is-apple-surface-296534.php)

I take issue with the idea that MS is forging new territories in technology while Apple is only playing with design. The iPhone is pretty revolutionary. It's not perfect by any means, but it's a major step. And some of the stuff in Leopard is really impressive, not just in looks, but in concept (can't say execution yet of course). Time Machine? Yes please.

[itsbecca]

True, but if it's the Minority Report style of interaction that is what draws you to Surface, I'd recommend seeing it on the iPhone.

I'm not attracted to being fancy schmancy. Okay that's not entirely true. I AM and I do oogle the IPhone. I just don't think the two items are in competition with each other, and to try to put them as such kind of comes of as petty MS v. Apple mess.

What I think is awesome with the surface is just bring all this technology together, and knowing MS's vision for the future I'm most excited about how the technology is going to further progress and effect computers in the future.

[itsbecca]

There's a third party version which is more on the Apple end of things. Saw this on Gizmodo this morning:

ROSIE coffee table (http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/savant/rosie-coffee-table-is-apple-surface-296534.php)

I take issue with the idea that MS is forging new territories in technology while Apple is only playing with design. The iPhone is pretty revolutionary. It's not perfect by any means, but it's a major step. And some of the stuff in Leopard is really impressive, not just in looks, but in concept (can't say execution yet of course). Time Machine? Yes please.


But it's NOT revolutionary!!! It's taking existing technology and putting it together. Like I've said (now, you hadn't seen it when you posted) I think the Iphone is completley delicious, but it's appeal is completley design based.

I don't mean design just in the sense of it's pretty package btw, though that is obviously a HUGE marketing point for apple. Design also incorporates how the programs are integrated together etc.

[paper]

I see where you're coming from. But even if the fish was always there in the river ripe for the snagging, I still applaud Chester for wrangling it onto the skillet. And also the finesse with which he de-boned it.

This is another personal preference issue. Design is critical to me. Even if it means I have less options in terms of functionality. I'm shallow as you can get.

That said, Surface looks quite cool. The "splitting the bill" thing? Dope. Real Apple look to it. Especially the flipping element. I know Apple didn't invent widgets, but they perfected them.

[acomicbookgirl]

I should get the phone right? I should totally get the ****ing phone. Kahuna, should I get the phone?

I should get the iPhone, right?

I mean why shouldn't I? I can't think of a reason why I shouldn't just get the phone.

Kahuna, help! I broke myself!

Get the iPhone Paper! Go get it!

[kahunablair]

But it's NOT revolutionary!!! It's taking existing technology and putting it together....
Isn't the car the same thing? An engine is nothing but basic machines that are all put together in just the right way that it made something that changed the entire world.
The Surface has been done before as well. It's taking touchsceen, mixing it with bluetooth technology, and putting it out as an attractive combination.

[itsbecca]

This is another personal preference issue. Design is critical to me. Even if it means I have less options in terms of functionality. I'm shallow as you can get.

There is nothing wrong with that. I'm just glad you admit it and I shall remember this for the future.

For me functionality is tops, and even more than that personalizing it is absolutley key. Some people want it to work right out of the box. Me? I want to get my hands in it and make it my own, software and hardware alike.

[kahunablair]

There is nothing wrong with that. I'm just glad you admit it and I shall remember this for the future.

For me functionality is tops, and even more than that personalizing it is absolutley key. Some people want it to work right out of the box. Me? I want to get my hands in it and make it my own, software and hardware alike.

Linux user?

[itsbecca]

Isn't the car the same thing? An engine is nothing but basic machines that are all put together in just the right way that it made something that changed the entire world.
The Surface has been done before as well. It's taking touchsceen, mixing it with bluetooth technology, and putting it out as an attractive combination.

I don't see much of a connection between major engineering feats and making the phone number on the map clicakable.

[itsbecca]

Linux user?

On my desktop (that I built from scratch...). Laptop is unabashedly Vista though.

[esophagus]

On my desktop (that I built from scratch...). Laptop is unabashedly Vista though.Ew. God I can't wait to get rid of Vista.

[itsbecca]

Ew. God I can't wait to get rid of Vista.

Why? And I ask this is all seriousness... I have two sisters who work at Microsoft.

[esophagus]

Why? And I ask this is all seriousness... I have two sisters who work at Microsoft.
Primarily? Because it treats me like I'm a retard. "Are you sure you want to open this?" is asked of me at every turn, as if I couldn't figure it out on my own, and everything is boggled down to the point that things start to actually run slow. It looks pretty yes, but it really just isn't my thing. I also hate the way you navigate through it. Again, it kind of treats me like I'm stupid. "Cass > Documents > Music" etc. But things like Shared Documents, and even My Computer have been completely hidden away, because it's just assumed a person won't need them. A wrong assumption at that. Just little things like that. I think it did some good things, but it was a one step forward, two steps back situation.

[paper]

There is nothing wrong with that. I'm just glad you admit it and I shall remember this for the future.

I'm also a hypocrite, so...be mindful...of that.

[itsbecca]

Primarily? Because it treats me like I'm a retard. "Are you sure you want to open this?" is asked of me at every turn, as if I couldn't figure it out on my own, and everything is boggled down to the point that things start to actually run slow. It looks pretty yes, but it really just isn't my thing. I also hate the way you navigate through it. Again, it kind of treats me like I'm stupid. "Cass > Documents > Music" etc. But things like Shared Documents, and even My Computer have been completely hidden away, because it's just assumed a person won't need them. A wrong assumption at that. Just little things like that. I think it did some good things, but it was a one step forward, two steps back situation.

The simplicity was largely because people weren't aware of a lot of the functionality that was already available. I flinch at some of it, but I think the new office is awesome. But most of the things you complained about you can change. In fact you can even straight up change your start menu to the old style if you want.

[esophagus]

The simplicity was largely because people weren't aware of a lot of the functionality that was already available. I flinch at some of it, but I think the new office is awesome. But most of the things you complained about you can change. In fact you can even straight up change your start menu to the old style if you want.I have no problem with the start menu, I think that was part of the design, part of the thing I loved. It's in the folders that I have a problem. But really I think Vista is a great thing for a lot of new people, but it was just to durastic a change, with a lot of things I didn't enjoy, for a person who has been using Microsoft since Microsoft 95, but that's one mans opinion. It did do some great things.

[itsbecca]

I have no problem with the start menu, I think that was part of the design, part of the thing I loved. It's in the folders that I have a problem. But really I think Vista is a great thing for a lot of new people, but it was just to durastic a change, with a lot of things I didn't enjoy, for a person who has been using Microsoft since Microsoft 95, but that's one mans opinion. It did do some great things.

It was a big change for sure. But so was 3.1 to 95 so.... I tried to keep that in mind as I changed some things around and got used to others.

[esophagus]

It was a big change for sure. But so was 3.1 to 95 so.... I tried to keep that in mind as I changed some things around and got used to others.Youre right. And I've found my way navigating around it, and could probably get used to it, and possibly love it, eventually. But the rest of my family are an entirely different market. They are the people who have been using a computer for a long time, but never got great with it, which makes this change even tougher, and they've asked me for a downgrade. So I guess we'll never know. Also, I tried hooking up my printer and it told me to "Upgrade to XP". That was one of the bigger straws here.

[paper]

I remember when I had to install printers. When simply plugging it in wasn't enough.

Bwahahahahaha

[kahunablair]

I remember when I had to install printers. When simply plugging it in wasn't enough.

Bwahahahahaha

Haha, that's evil sir.

[ConorKilpatrick]

The line forms to my left.

Jenna Fischer separates from husband
‘The Office’ star has been married to James Gunn for six years

Updated: 8:00 p.m. ET Sept 5, 2007

LOS ANGELES - “The Office” star Jenna Fischer and her husband James Gunn have separated, her publicist confirmed to “Access Hollywood.”

“We have chosen to separate. We are sorry for any pain this causes family and friends,” a statement released to People magazine read. “The enthusiasm we have expressed for each other’s lives, spirits and careers is real — we have been each other’s cheerleader and friend during the past six years and continue to be so now and in the future.”

The couple married six years ago. Fisher and Gunn met, according to People magazine, through his brother, former “Gilmore Girls” actor Sean Gunn.

Fischer is well known for playing receptionist Pam Beesly on “The Office.” She has also appeared in “Blades of Glory,” and is next up in “The Brothers Solomon,” a comedy due out on Sept. 7.

Gunn wrote the screenplay for “Scooby-Doo,” “Scooby Doo 2: Monsters Unleashed” and “Slither,” a horror film which Fischer had a role in.

Earlier this year, in May, Fischer fractured four bones in her back after slipping on a marble staircase at an event in New York City.

[Labor_Days]

Had to google who she was. Visual assistance for those not with it, which is probably just me...

Link for seksay. (http://www.rassumfrassum.com/images/Jenna-Fischer.jpg)


edit: too racy?

[fred]

eh - I guess

[paper]

Damn, that's a crazy year for her.

*Stands in line behind Conor. Hops up and down*

Labor and Fred, go pick up The Office seasons 2 and 3. Essential viewing.

[itsbecca]

Had to google who she was. Visual assistance for those not with it, which is probably just me...

Link for seksay. (http://www.rassumfrassum.com/images/Jenna-Fischer.jpg)


edit: too racy?

That totally creeps me out. The style just doesn't suit her.

[paper]

I tend to agree, but her WIRED cover also shows that she doesn't mind baring some skin.

What really attracts me, though, is her comic timing and thoughtfulness. I fall in love with her all over again with every episode of the Office. She's genuinely funny.

[fred]

Possibly I'd be more impressed if I were familiar with her work. If you were to take her personality out of the equation (which I have - because I know nothing of it), I've seen dozens of more attractive women on the internet already this week and it's only Thursday morning.

[Mikegraham6]

well, since you asked .....

It basically comes down to the binary concept. Everything in a computer is binary at its root. Storage capacities are affected by this because the physical memory locations are binary.

A binary number is a number whose digits are expressed as 1 or 0. So, binary numbers work in powers of 2. 1024 is 2 to the 9th power. 1024 in binary is 1111111111.

This is similar to the base-10 system that you're familiar with. For instance, in the number 47 (in base 10), this number represents 7 groups of 1 and 4 groups of 10. The ones column is the number of groups of 10 to the 0 power (which is 1) and the tens column is 10 to the 1 power (which is 10).

In much the same way that you can't drop the "7" from 47 (and still call it the same number), you can't drop the extra 24 from 1024.

If you're still reading at this point you deserve a purple heart. Nipple, orange, fruit paste. Have you seen my aardvark?

ummmmmm..... let's pretend i understand this ;)
im glad i asked, thanks for bothering to explain that fred

[kahunablair]

Possibly I'd be more impressed if I were familiar with her work. If you were to take her personality out of the equation (which I have - because I know nothing of it), I've seen dozens of more attractive women on the internet already this week and it's only Thursday morning.

Her main draw is definitely her personality. It's similar to the Tina Fay attraction.
There's more to women then just looks Mr. Fred.;)

[fred]

Her main draw is definitely her personality. It's similar to the Tina Fay attraction.
There's more to women then just looks Mr. Fred.;)

I completely agree. Tina Fay is a great example. Our point is precisely the same. I don't watch the Office. I'm not familiar with who she is. All that I have to go on is her appearance.

[fred]

ummmmmm..... let's pretend i understand this ;)
im glad i asked, thanks for bothering to explain that fred

glad to help (if I did)

The important thing to remember is that there is a reason. It's not just slapdash laziness.

[Mikegraham6]

so what's are estimated time frame before there's an iPhone that has an 80GB hard drive with a camera? that's probably when i'll jump on board. I like the idea of carrying around less devices instead of more, a device like that would replace my iPod, my camera and my phone. does the iPhone play videos like the iPod does?

[Mikegraham6]

Damn, that's a crazy year for her.

*Stands in line behind Conor. Hops up and down*

Labor and Fred, go pick up The Office seasons 2 and 3. Essential viewing.

i was tempted to buy season 3 on dvd yesterday even though i have the whole thing already on my iPod. I stopped myself, but i know i'll buy it eventually

[Labor_Days]

eh - I guess

She doesn't do it for me either, to be honest. But the mods took the picture down after posting it. I fixed the image to a text link.

[Labor_Days]

so what's are estimated time frame before there's an iPhone that has an 80GB hard drive with a camera?

You'll be waiting a while for an 80GB iPhone. A hard drive is the only cost effective way to deliver 80GB at the moment. As was said earlier, the cost of that much flash memory would be prohibitive.

[kahunablair]

Well CNN has an article on it's site called "Early adopters sour over iPhone price cut". It pretty much talks about the annoucements from yesterday and how some people are upset about the price drop.
The reason I'm bringing it up is because according to the article if you purchased the phone in the last 14 days you can get a refund for the price difference..
Apple spokeswoman Natalie Kerris said anyone who purchased an iPhone within the past 14 days and has the receipt can get a full refund under Apple's return policy if they haven't opened the product. If they have opened it, they still can get a refund of the price difference.
That's pretty cool that they're allowing that to happen. They could be absolute a-holes about it and say, "Sorry about your luck."

http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/ptech/09/06/apple.price.cut.ap/index.html

[Mikegraham6]

Well That's pretty cool that they're allowing that to happen. They could be absolute a-holes about it and say, "Sorry about your luck."

http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/ptech/09/06/apple.price.cut.ap/index.html

apple can really do no wrong in your eyes can they Kahuna?;)

[esophagus]

Damn, that's a crazy year for her.

*Stands in line behind Conor. Hops up and down*

Labor and Fred, go pick up The Office seasons 2 and 3. Essential viewing.Agreed. I am all over this, I think she is one of the more attractive women on TV right now, and it has little to nothing to do with her looks. It's her wit, and personality. And she is usually hilarious in the commentary.

Sidenote: HOW DID I GET BUSY ENOUGH TO MISS THE OFFICE 3 RELEASE. CRAP. I hate school. This will have to be fixed, tonight.

[kahunablair]

apple can really do no wrong in your eyes can they Kahuna?;)

Haha, Just trying to commend excellent customer service when I hear it Mike!

[kahunablair]

Well to FURTHER comment on Apple's Phenomenal Customer Service....



Steve Jobs gives all iPhone owners $100 back
El Jobso is "confident" Apple's made the right decision to lower the price of the iPhone yesterday -- and really, we can't fault them for knocking some cash off the top to attract new buyers, why is cheaper gear a bad thing all of a sudden? But even given the outcry, we definitely didn't see this one coming. In another open letter to his people, Jobs states that he's giving all iPhone owners a $100 Apple gift certificate (details to follow in the next week -- it goes without saying this will only apply to people who bought before the price drop). Well, that's mighty kind of you Steve. And definitely unprecedented in the consumer electronics industry that a company would give cash back to early adopters -- those most accustomed to buying a gadget first, asking questions later, and bottling their complaints when said gadget later drops dramatically in price.
http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/06/steve-jobs-gives-all-iphone-owners-100-back/

[ConorKilpatrick]

Here's the open letter (http://www.apple.com/hotnews/openiphoneletter/):


To all iPhone customers:

I have received hundreds of emails from iPhone customers who are upset about Apple dropping the price of iPhone by $200 two months after it went on sale. After reading every one of these emails, I have some observations and conclusions.

First, I am sure that we are making the correct decision to lower the price of the 8GB iPhone from $599 to $399, and that now is the right time to do it. iPhone is a breakthrough product, and we have the chance to 'go for it' this holiday season. iPhone is so far ahead of the competition, and now it will be affordable by even more customers. It benefits both Apple and every iPhone user to get as many new customers as possible in the iPhone 'tent'. We strongly believe the $399 price will help us do just that this holiday season.

Second, being in technology for 30+ years I can attest to the fact that the technology road is bumpy. There is always change and improvement, and there is always someone who bought a product before a particular cutoff date and misses the new price or the new operating system or the new whatever. This is life in the technology lane. If you always wait for the next price cut or to buy the new improved model, you'll never buy any technology product because there is always something better and less expensive on the horizon. The good news is that if you buy products from companies that support them well, like Apple tries to do, you will receive years of useful and satisfying service from them even as newer models are introduced.

Third, even though we are making the right decision to lower the price of iPhone, and even though the technology road is bumpy, we need to do a better job taking care of our early iPhone customers as we aggressively go after new ones with a lower price. Our early customers trusted us, and we must live up to that trust with our actions in moments like these.

Therefore, we have decided to offer every iPhone customer who purchased an iPhone from either Apple or AT&T, and who is not receiving a rebate or any other consideration, a $100 store credit towards the purchase of any product at an Apple Retail Store or the Apple Online Store. Details are still being worked out and will be posted on Apple's website next week. Stay tuned.

We want to do the right thing for our valued iPhone customers. We apologize for disappointing some of you, and we are doing our best to live up to your high expectations of Apple.

Steve Jobs
Apple CEO

[Labor_Days]

Saw that open letter earlier today, and holy shit does Apple take care about it's customers or what? Even if you disagree with it from a business perspective, you have to admit it's very cool of Apple to do this.

[esophagus]

Theyre great for doing it I think. From a business and personal perspective. I would be stoked to recieve this gift certificate, and such a gesture is only going to attract new buyers. New iPod, here I come.

[paper]

I completely agree. Tina Fay is a great example. Our point is precisely the same. I don't watch the Office. I'm not familiar with who she is. All that I have to go on is her appearance.


Watch the show! It kills me that you haven't seen it.

[esophagus]

I was under the impression taht everyone and their dog had at least seen it. I guess I'm wrong. i tihnk I have hooked everyone I know on it. My mom could watch "Gay Witch Hunt" a thousand times over. For good reason.

[paper]

It's a really good move. A large percentage of those shoppers will leave the store with more than just the $100 worth of merchandise.

Mike: To answer your earlier question: The iPhone and all current iPods aside from the Shuffle now play video. They're still working on a way to add video functionality to a device without a screen.

[ConorKilpatrick]

I was under the impression taht everyone and their dog had at least seen it.

Its ratings would make one think otherwise.

[paper]

I think it's the promos for it, the way they showcase it, that makes it appear that everyone watches The Office. You'd think it was the most watched show on television, which it certainly isn't.

[esophagus]

Its ratings would make one think otherwise.
Really? I've never looked mch in the ratings, I just knew that almost everyone I know has at the very least watched it. Assumptions.

[paper]

Really? I've never looked mch in the ratings, I just knew that almost everyone I know has at the very least watched it. Assumptions.

We will never meet every American. Not any of us.

Sad, but also comforting.

[paper]

Right, you're Canadian. We will never meet every English-speaking television viewer. Not any of us.

Sad, but also comforting. Eh?

[esophagus]

We will never meet every American. Not any of us.

Sad, but also comforting.Especially us crazy Canadians. But yeah, I know. TBS picked it up though, this should be good for ratings.

[ConorKilpatrick]

The Office - Ratings

Premiering on Thursday, March 24, 2005, after an episode of The Apprentice on NBC, it caught the curiosity of 11.2 million viewers in the U.S., winning its time slot. However, NBC meant for the series to air on Tuesday nights and when it first aired on a Tuesday night, it lost nearly half its audience with only 5.9 million viewers. The program averaged 5.4 million viewers, ranking it #102 for the 2004–2005 U.S. television season. The first season finale received the lowest rating in the show's history, earning just a 2.2 rating with a 10 share.

As the second season started, the show slowly started gaining a cult following after the success of Carell's August 2005 movie The 40-Year-Old Virgin and the fortune of airing after the surprise rookie hit comedy, My Name Is Earl. Growing viewership seemed promising enough to NBC that they moved the series in January 2006 to the "Must See TV" Thursday night where the ratings continued to grow. Some of this growth may be attributed to the iTunes Store beginning to sell the show on its then-new sales of TV Shows, where The Office is regularly among the top shows. By the 2005–2006 season, it placed #67 (tied with 20/20). It averaged 8.0 million viewers with a 4.0/10 rating. It also was up 40% in viewers from the year before and up 60% in viewers ages 18–49.

The third-season premiere received a 5.7/9 and actually made a small increase in total viewers and viewers 18–49 over its lead-in program, My Name Is Earl. By the end of the 2006–2007 season, it placed #68 (tied with The Biggest Loser 3). It averaged 8.3 million viewers with a 4.1/11 rating, a slight improvement from the previous season.

[Labor_Days]

Well, I saw the Office UK and didn't think the US one was any different. Yes, I am now aware that it is in fact different but never really felt the urge to dive in. I'm not a big TV guy.

[kahunablair]

Well, I saw the Office UK and didn't think the US one was any different. Yes, I am now aware that it is in fact different but never really felt the urge to dive in. I'm not a big TV guy.

Did you only watch the first few episodes of the US series? Because I thought the same thing, then a few episodes in that changed.
They finally started to take the story in a different direction and it is completely better for it.

[Labor_Days]

No, I never seen the US Office. Only seen clips and such. The urge to watch just never took me.

[Mikegraham6]

Joss Whedon directed an episode of the Office? I had no idea.....

[paper]

It's one of my favorites too.

[Mikegraham6]

It's one of my favorites too.

that was a good episode, it was the first time i'd seen it. the moment between Michael and Pam at the end was touching....

[paper]

That's one of the reasons I like it so much. It's got really, really funny stuff in it, but it also has that Pam/Michael moment which made me a little misty. That's why it's the best comedy on television.

[kahunablair]

So Paper, are you heading up to Scranton in October?

From Popcandy:


There has been talk of an Office convention for awhile now, but a few more details have been released about the thrilling fan weekend, which will be held Oct. 26-28 in Scranton, Pa. (Where else?)

According to this blog and the convention site, festivities will include a street festival, Scranton tours, "Office olympics," outfits worn by the cast, a "favorite character Halloween party," "Dundee award presentations" and "special surprises."

The site hasn't revealed which cast members (if any) will show up, but interest seems to be spreading. If you go, let me know and snap lots of photos ... especially if you spot Creed!

http://www.theofficeconvention.com/

[paper]

If there are cast or writer appearances, I'd totally go. That would be a fun event to cover.

[-MK-]

Ah - The Dundie Awards. I remember laughing my arse off at that episode. I'd like to see them do it every year, but I guess they'll have to switch venues considering Pam isn't welcome at Chili's. :D

[paper]

"It's like second drink!"

[-MK-]

"It's like second drink!"

Best line ever. Mostly because everyone's remarked that to themselves when drinking and can relate. :D

[Six Gun]

Playing the best running back in the state tonight, not nervous, pumped

[kahunablair]

Playing the best running back in the state tonight, not nervous, pumped
Good luck man.



Oh and who like's to shake up things that were let go pages back? That would be me....


http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/9/9/7/f_blacktable8m_38b4cb3.jpg


Savant marries a touchscreen with iTunes; calls it "Apple Surface"

Look, we're all about innovation, and you know deep down we really want our computers to be big-ass tables, but Savant's press release touting "the first Apple-based coffee table surface product" just made us cringe. Savant's Rosie touchscreen home-automation products are already well-respected, so there's no need to try and grab any tailfeathers here -- in fact, we think the specs sort of sell themselves: you're looking at a 40-inch touchscreen that sports iTunes integration, access to photos and movies, home-automation through the Rosie system, and, yes, runs on an internally-mounted Mac of some sort. More important than that, however, is the one spec that Microsoft's Surface can't currently match: Savant is getting ready to sell these to consumers, and soon. See? No need to to get crazy with the hype, now was there? Now just set a price and tell us when these'll ship, and we'll be all set.
http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/06/savant-marries-a-touchscreen-with-itunes-calls-it-apple-surfac/

[paper]

There's a demo video of that from a recent tech convention. It's lame as hell compared to the Surface. Now, if Apple made one of their own...

So. I thought about it, checked with Nextel. Some of the phones on our family plan have contracts expiring in October and November. So I'll be waiting until then to switch plans. To Verizon.

Yes, this insight into my consumer research efforts has been a roller coaster. But I found a good LG phone on Verizon, and a good plan I can share with my mom and aunt. My dad and uncle are staying with Nextel.

So, why did I decide against the iPhone? Well, the big things that I was concerned about were battery life (i'd like to be able to use all these features and not have to worry about my phone dying) and storage capacity (8GB is fine for my music and podcasts, but what about videos?). The monthly service is also a little out of my comfort zone. When my Verizon contract expires in two years maybe the playing field will look a little different. That said, I'm going to grab an iPod Touch (16GB) in the mean time to take advantage of the wifi.

Thanks for being a part of this consumer research adventure!

[kahunablair]

Glad to hear you were able to figure everything out Paper!

If you don't mind me asking, which LG phone are you looking at?

[ConorKilpatrick]

So. I thought about it, checked with Nextel. Some of the phones on our family plan have contracts expiring in October and November. So I'll be waiting until then to switch plans. To Verizon.

Wow. Stunning turnaround.

[Mikegraham6]

Wow. Stunning turnaround.

ya, i was almost convinced he was picking up the iPhone, i guess he was just drunk off of Apple news:D

[kahunablair]

That's just the nature of Paper. He likes to keep us all on our toes.
He'll zig when we thought he'd zag.
He's a maniac!

[paper]

The only thing that was keeping me off Verizon was the temptation of the iPhone and the lackluster reviews for their Chocolate and RAZR phones. Horror stories of shoddy wheels, unresponsive buttons, poor call quality. And I was just in denial about the service coverage. No poor reviews from any of my friends in the area. Not one. Coverage is primary. Or it should be. The next step is finding a really solid phone.

Kahuna, I'm looking at the LG VX8700 (http://reviews.cnet.com/cell-phones/lg-vx8700-verizon-wireless/4505-6454_7-32429932.html?tag=prod.txt.1). Their primary criticism of the phone is that it isn't a convenient mp3 player, and obviously that is not an issue for me. I'll keep tabs on any new phones they release until November of course. But if I were switching right now, that'd be my new ride.

[paper]

Wow. Stunning turnaround.

Haha, yeah. I change my mind on a dime. In the past 72 hours I've been dead set on Verizon, T-Mobile, Verizon, AT&T, and now finally Verizon.

I hate multiple choice. :D

[kahunablair]

Kahuna, I'm looking at the LG VX8700 (http://reviews.cnet.com/cell-phones/lg-vx8700-verizon-wireless/4505-6454_7-32429932.html?tag=prod.txt.1). Their primary criticism of the phone is that it isn't a convenient mp3 player, and obviously that is not an issue for me. I'll keep tabs on any new phones they release until November of course. But if I were switching right now, that'd be my new ride.

Very nice sir.
All of the Cons seem to be pretty petty things. It has the look of the Razr, but one that's updated and refined.

If you want to see what's coming out for Verizon for the rest of the year here you go:
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/08/16/verizons-roadmap-for-remainder-of-07-gets-liberated/

[paper]

Thanks, Kahuna. Those are some nice smart phones. But fear not! I shall not waver! The VX8700 is all I need from a phone (and perhaps a trifle more).

The Touch has been pre-ordered! (Forgot they're not out until the end of the month). If anyone plans on getting any of these new iPods I'd recommend doing so through Amazon. Take advantage of the free shipping and zero tax.

[kahunablair]

The Touch has been pre-ordered! (Forgot they're not out until the end of the month). If anyone plans on getting any of these new iPods I'd recommend doing so through Amazon. Take advantage of the free shipping and zero tax.
I recommend using Amazon for most big cash prices. I've used them for all my iPod's so far.
When I bought my video iPod, I actually had found a coupon online for extra money off. So between the coupon and no taxes, I saved close to $85.

[esophagus]

I recommend using Amazon for most big cash prices. I've used them for all my iPod's so far.
When I bought my video iPod, I actually had found a coupon online for extra money off. So between the coupon and no taxes, I saved close to $85.
I always forget they sell things that aren't books. I think I'm going to wait until February for that new iPod. Sign up for an Amazong visa. This sounds like a good investment.

And scrolling up the page: That faux Apple Surface is definitely lacking. The picture makes it look like a shiny, yet dirty coffeetable. I had to zoom in to tell otherwise. Plus it jsut doesn't seem as high end as the Windows one, with plenty less gonig for it.

[ConorKilpatrick]

And if anyone needs to do an Amazon search (http://www.ifanboy.com/amazon/)... :D

[fred]

know what I mean? know what I mean? say no more, say no more

[paper]

Here's that video (http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/apple/hands-on-the-rosie-apple+powered-multitouch-table-verdict-meh-297282.php) of the ROSIE table in..er..action.

[paper]

Kahuna, this one's is for you my friend. A simple hack (http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/07/simple-hackery-enables-free-itunes-ringtones/) to make iTunes ringtones without paying 99 cents. So simple, even a caveman can do it.

[kahunablair]

Kahuna, this one's is for you my friend. A simple hack (http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/07/simple-hackery-enables-free-itunes-ringtones/) to make iTunes ringtones without paying 99 cents. So simple, even a caveman can do it.

Thanks brother.
I saw it this morning, but I appreciate that you got my back.

[paper]

Oh my god. I just went outside. All of the dinosaurs are gone! Has anyone else noticed?

Yesterday's news, brought to you by Paper.

[kahunablair]

Oh my god. I just went outside. All of the dinosaurs are gone! Has anyone else noticed?

Yesterday's news, brought to you by Paper.

Don't forget man, all I do all day is pretty much sit behind a computer. I have about a crap load of tech sites bookmarked. I do really appreciate it though.

[Labor_Days]

There is nothing quite like one's own mother forgetting the year she gave birth to you. Sure she remembered today was my birthday but it kinda takes the zest out of it when she asks, "what year were you born in again?".

Were you really so busy in 1979 that you forgot I came out of your vagina that year, Mom?

[fred]

happy birthday fellow child of nineteen seven nine

yeah yeah yeah

[paper]

You guys are so like....old.


;)

Happy happy, Labor.

[fred]

And I dont even care to shake these zipper blues

[paper]

And I dont even care to shake these zipper blues

Is that a prostate joke?

[fred]

we dont even care as restless as we are

[kahunablair]

Happy Birthday Labor, you old fart!

[Labor_Days]

we dont even care as restless as we are

No apologies ever need be made. I know you better than you fake it.

[Labor_Days]

Thanks for the well wishes, dudes.

Didn't think I was old till everyone today told me I was old. I don't feel old. Ok, maybe a little fatigued and my back is acting up but a little ben-gay and I'll be golden. Am I right?

[fred]

No apologies ever need be made. I know you better than you fake it.

Double cross the vacant and the bored
They're not sure just what we have in store

[Labor_Days]

The street heats the urgency of sound. As you can see no one around gets this joke. :-D

[esophagus]

Thanks for the well wishes, dudes.Happy birthday from me, too. A great excuse for a McCains Deep 'n Delicious cake. It's going to be delicious. I'd share, but you know, those crazy borders and all.

[fred]

The street heats the urgency of sound. As you can see no one around gets this joke. :-D

cool kids never have the time

[MastaP]

I GET IT... I think

[paper]

Zwan lyrics. I get it.

[fred]

No apologies ever need be made, I know you better than you fake it

[kahunablair]

I'm a little tea pot, short and stout.

[esophagus]

MTv has opened a flash casino (http://www.mtv.com/asm/addicting_games/) to allow people to "win" multiple voted in games like blackjack. The best part of this flawed voting system? You can play as many times as you want. I'm sitting at a good 5000 votes for Amy Winehouse at the moment.

[Jimski]

we dont even care as restless as we are

You know, the year this song actually came out, I hated it. I find, though, that nostalgia is so painfully potent that I have come to cherish it nonetheless because of college reminiscence. May God have mercy on my soul.

[paper]

I need immediate cheering up.

I am having a sorrow moment, and it involves a girl.

Somebody buy me shots.

[Labor_Days]

Dude, you got to cowboy up already. No more of this whiny emo bullshit about girls. Go up to the woman and ask her out. Stop being a spazz and become a man.

[acomicbookgirl]

I need immediate cheering up.

I am having a sorrow moment, and it involves a girl.

Somebody buy me shots.

*HUG* I'm sorry.. What happened? Um.. Have you seen Tim Gunn's Guide to Style? Temporary Project Runway fix til the next season starts whenever that is.

[paper]

Dude, you got to cowboy up already. No more of this whiny emo bullshit about girls. Go up to the woman and ask her out. Stop being a spazz and become a man.

Different situation.

She's just broken up with her boyfriend, but she's going to school out of state. So it's not as simple as all that.

[paper]

Sorry to clutter your day with one post of my whiny emo bullshit.

[kahunablair]

I need immediate cheering up.
I am having a sorrow moment, and it involves a girl.
Somebody buy me shots.

Meet you on South Street at 6pm. I'll buy you enough shots you won't even remember her name!

Different situation.
She's just broken up with her boyfriend, but she's going to school out of state. So it's not as simple as all that.

Ain't life a *****?
That seems to always be like luck with woman. The minute I like a girl, she tells me she's dating someone else, then I move on. The minute I start a new relationship that old girl breaks up with her guy and proceeds to tell me she's always liked me.
It actually led me to take a few years off of the whole dating scene.

[JGG0610]

Not that I needed it, but hearing you guys deal with this makes me really glad that I'm married and no longer have to deal with this shit.

[Six Gun]

Dude, you got to cowboy up already. No more of this whiny emo bullshit about girls. Go up to the woman and ask her out. Stop being a spazz and become a man.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a161/Sn4ke22/beaman_lg.gif

[acomicbookgirl]

Sorry to clutter your day with one post of my whiny emo bullshit.


Its ok. You need to let it out. Its not healthy to keep it inside. Wish more guys would do that..

[acomicbookgirl]

Not that I needed it, but hearing you guys deal with this makes me really glad that I'm married and no longer have to deal with this shit.

Lucky you.. Unfortunately some of us aren't lucky like that.. ;)

[Labor_Days]

Different situation.

She's just broken up with her boyfriend, but she's going to school out of state. So it's not as simple as all that.

NO! It is simple. Ask her out before she goes. If nothing else you two might have a wonderful night together. At best, the door for something more may be left a open.

The situation doesn't matter, bro. You got to stop being so damn passive. People don't bump into each other in the subway and get married the next day. Ask these girls out, moping just won't do it.

[paper]

She's already there, man.

(This isn't the girl from work. Sorry for the confusion. This is an older situation.)

I'm not trying to mope. It was the digital version of slamming my fist on my desk so I could get on with my day.

[ConorKilpatrick]

Not that I needed it, but hearing you guys deal with this makes me really glad that I'm married and no longer have to deal with this shit.

Conversely, the stories I hear from most of the people I know who are married make me so very glad that I'm not.

It works both ways.

[fred]

Sorry to hear that paper. You'll find your Woodstock.

[Labor_Days]

Yeah, and girls that complain about the difficulty in finding someone need to be more assertive too. Any dude turned of by a woman asking him out isn't worth the time any way.

Get on with it already you down-on-yourself mopes!

[acomicbookgirl]

She's already there, man.

(This isn't the girl from work. Sorry for the confusion. This is an older situation.)

I'm not trying to mope. It was the digital version of slamming my fist on my desk so I could get on with my day.

Is this the girl you liked before? The one you took pics with? Anywho, just ask to hang out with her. What have you got to lose? Hang out with her before she leaves.. People sometimes cringe with the work date and anything of the sort.

[paper]

Woodstock is a boy, Fred.

This is indeed the girl from before, the girl from the pictures, the girl from that thread a while back where I asked for book suggestions. I did have a crush on the girl at work, but I realized the other day that I liked her because she reminded me of the other girl. This girl at work is cool and I'm still glad I have someone to talk comics with (she's reading my copy of The Hood right now), but this other girl is really special to me. I'd only given up because she was in a long-standing relationship. Today I learned that that changed.

I called her. We talked a bit. It felt like the timing was right. I told her how I felt. She was glad I did. She said if I'd asked her out she would have said yes. The next time she's in town (soon) we're making plans.

So, there ya go.

[kahunablair]

Woodstock is a boy, Fred.

This is indeed the girl from before, the girl from the pictures, the girl from that thread a while back where I asked for book suggestions. I did have a crush on the girl at work, but I realized the other day that I liked her because she reminded me of the other girl. This girl at work is cool and I'm still glad I have someone to talk comics with (she's reading my copy of The Hood right now), but this other girl is really special to me. I'd only given up because she was in a long-standing relationship. Today I learned that that changed.

I called her. We talked a bit. It felt like the timing was right. I told her how I felt. She was glad I did. She said if I'd asked her out she would have said yes. The next time she's in town (soon) we're making plans.

So, there ya go.

If there was a emoticon for "The 80's movie slow clap", I'd be putting that in right now.

Congrats my man. Congrats.

[Labor_Days]

I called her. We talked a bit. It felt like the timing was right. I told her how I felt. She was glad I did. She said if I'd asked her out she would have said yes. The next time she's in town (soon) we're making plans.

So, there ya go.

Right on. You'd be surprised how often this is the case. Carpi diem.

[paper]

Don't be lewd. Nothing was seized.

Life is coming together.

[fred]

Woodstock is a boy, Fred.

Sure, piss all over my analogy with facts.

[JGG0610]

Conversely, the stories I hear from most of the people I know who are married make me so very glad that I'm not.

It works both ways.
Absolutely. I'm just one of the lucky ones I guess.

[acomicbookgirl]

Woodstock is a boy, Fred.

This is indeed the girl from before, the girl from the pictures, the girl from that thread a while back where I asked for book suggestions. I did have a crush on the girl at work, but I realized the other day that I liked her because she reminded me of the other girl. This girl at work is cool and I'm still glad I have someone to talk comics with (she's reading my copy of The Hood right now), but this other girl is really special to me. I'd only given up because she was in a long-standing relationship. Today I learned that that changed.

I called her. We talked a bit. It felt like the timing was right. I told her how I felt. She was glad I did. She said if I'd asked her out she would have said yes. The next time she's in town (soon) we're making plans.

So, there ya go.


I didn't know Woodstock was a boy.. :confused:

Awww.. I hope thing work out. :) I'll cross my fingers for you.. Keep us in the loop.

[fred]

I knew that Woodstock was a boy. I didn't let that slow me down.

[paper]

The more appropriate analogy is Charlie Brown. I even have the zig-zag shirt.

So..anyways....sorry for making everybody read all this stuff. Roller coaster weekend. I'm not going to document my love life on here in the future. Just a one time thing.

So....MODOK....

Bags and boards.....

[fred]

modok is also a boy

(I think)

[esophagus]

I knew that Woodstock was a boy. I didn't let that slow me down.I knew Woodstock was a boy. But I always kind of assumed he was gay. Maybe not that anyone knew it, but that he was just a closeted little bird. Perhaps the analogy stands.

[esophagus]

AAAAAHHHHHHH.

On a note that has nothing to do with anything at all, I just bought myslef a 500gb external hard drive. And it's making this really high pitched, but very quiet, ringing noise. I can't tell if it actually is, or if I'm just going crazy. But either way, it's not really a good enough reason to return it, but I'm slowly losing my sanity.

[paper]

I knew Woodstock was a boy. But I always kind of assumed he was gay. Maybe not that anyone knew it, but that he was just a closeted little bird. Perhaps the analogy stands.

Possibly because of the name of the character involved, I am reminded of a quote from Creed:

"I'm not offended by homosexuality. In the sixties, I made love to many, many women. Often outdoors, in the mud and the rain, and it's possible a man slipped in. Would be no way of knowing. "



AAAAAHHHHHHH.

On a note that has nothing to do with anything at all, I just bought myslef a 500gb external hard drive. And it's making this really high pitched, but very quiet, ringing noise. I can't tell if it actually is, or if I'm just going crazy. But either way, it's not really a good enough reason to return it, but I'm slowly losing my sanity.

Try this. Turn it off. Leave the room. Get a shower, go out for a bit, do whatever, but put your head in different situations and environments separate from the room. Come back to the room. Do you still hear it? Turn it back on. Is it any different?

On a related note, I too need a new external Hard drive for my macbook. Who knew individual porn files came in Gigabytes. ;)

[esophagus]

Try this. Turn it off. Leave the room. Get a shower, go out for a bit, do whatever, but put your head in different situations and environments separate from the room. Come back to the room. Do you still hear it? Turn it back on. Is it any different?

On a related note, I too need a new external Hard drive for my macbook. Who knew individual porn files came in Gigabytes. ;)I just started reading and tried to ignore it. If it was in my head, it would go away. It did. This means a) I imagined it or b) It stopped when the file trasnfer stopped.

Does anyone know where on iTunes you can choose where podcasts save to? I can't find it, and I'd like them to start going to the external drive.

[fred]

in preferences I think

[esophagus]

in preferences I thinkI was looking for something specifically about podcasts, but apparently it just automatically goes to your set music folder. Fixed.

[paper]

It's in the Help menu. I'd copy and paste but the directions for a mac are gonna be different than those for a.....PC.

[kahunablair]

modok is also a boy
(I think)

Modok is indeed a laddie.

Speaking of him, is anyone reading the Modok 11 book? I am, and I'm just curious if I'm the only one.

[Labor_Days]

I read the first issue of Modok's 11. Horrible.

Did it get good?

[kahunablair]

Nope. Still pretty darn bad.
I held on in hopes that it was going to pull it out of the nose dive, but man oh man did it get worse.

[Labor_Days]

"Buying till it gets good", the albatross of all comic book fans.

I been there dude. Hold on, things will get better.

[kahunablair]

Sad part is, this is one of the few times I've done it.

The concept just has to much potential. A group of 11 loser villains being assembled to do a big heist. How can that go wrong?
Oh I know how, by trying to make it so "double-crossy" that you make the book totally incomprehensible.

[esophagus]

Gah. As soon as I post this I'm packing up my computer and sending it out to have XP reinstalled and the stuff from my old harddrive transferred over. Not to mention a full-on virus scan. I tried getting onto google and it wouldn't let me. Told me something about how my computer appeared to have some sort of virus, and they wanted to remain uninfected. If google thinks my computer is a threat, something is wrong. Anyways, I won't be around until late Wednesday, or sometime Thursday, minus a few sporadic attempts at keeping up from school. Yeah. That's about it. I'm sure no one cares, it's only three days, but I figured I'd mention it. Wish me luck. God I hope this thing starts running faster.