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rowlodge
10-13-2006, 03:59 PM
the show is getting bought by "E"?....poor old x-play which the only thing left may soon get some changes, which was the only show i still liked may go by the wayside.

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/10/13/gamers-in-trouble-g4-moves-to-e/

samureye
10-13-2006, 04:10 PM
I saw this earlier today and couldn't figure it out, but is it that G4 is being killed and E! will start showing some of their shows? I remember telling myself this should have happened long ago. Since they bought TechTV, they just turned into E!'s retarded second cousin.

nextgenxbox
10-13-2006, 04:51 PM
About damn time that channel went under! Long live Rev3!

darknessgp
10-13-2006, 05:40 PM
I find it funny that the article's title is "Gamers in trouble" because all the gamers I know hate G4 and loved TechTV. The few that don't hate G4 (because they never watch TechTV), don't watch G4 or even like it.

Not to even the wrong word usage. Honestly, it's "Swag" not schwag. And how the hell did G4 get to the 57th spot out of 64 networks? Are there really 7 networks that are worse than G4?

hegemony
10-13-2006, 05:55 PM
The way I understand it is that Comcast owns both stations and is just merging their staff and production. Apparently G4 has been getting horrible ratings and their studios are really expensive. While it doesn't mean the "end" of G4 it certainly means it's sinking fast.

Edit: A mod should change the title, it's misleading.

samureye
10-13-2006, 05:58 PM
Oh yeah, they recently removed ABC Family by me to put in iLifeTV. I would honestly watch G4 instead, it's like old people, but "cool". Horrible station.

adamzx
10-13-2006, 06:15 PM
The way I understand it is that Comcast owns both stations and is just merging their staff and production. Apparently G4 has been getting horrible ratings and their studios are really expensive. While it doesn't mean the "end" of G4 it certainly means it's sinking fast.

this is correct
Comcast owns both G4 and E!, they realize how much G4 sucks and they are trying to save money by putting G4 under E! to get rid of some of the jobs.

hegemony
10-13-2006, 06:48 PM
Maybe with G4 being such a loss "someone" should try to get some investors to buy G4 and bring back techTV. Hmmm... who could orchestrate that? *cough*Kevin and Jay*cough*

ryudo
10-13-2006, 06:52 PM
:D YES!

Death to G4!

masherscf
10-13-2006, 07:16 PM
Remember all the silly internet snipes at Kevin Rose after he dumped his G4 day job: "What's he going to do for money?" I bet all the people at G4 are asking themselves that question today.

rowlodge
10-13-2006, 07:17 PM
she must know about rev3 by now, maybe kevin can convince her to join up? don't worry i dont think she is his type. i dont know about adam sessler?

dontlooknow
10-13-2006, 07:58 PM
In a perfect world X-play would join up with Rev3. That show is the only reason I've watched G4. Now attack of the show was almost watchable when Sarah And Brenden Moran, Kevin Perreira or what ever and Olivia munn just suck munn is hot but the show still sucks. Every thing else just sucks they deserve to be put down after killing Techtv. Ah the good old days.

bman
10-13-2006, 09:08 PM
Kinda sucks there getting taken over, I liked it, as in G4. Xplay for one thing sucks, I can't stand the hosts, probably the only show on G4 I can't watch.

ryudo
10-13-2006, 09:30 PM
This is so awesome...nothing on G4 was good,AOTS was the most pointless shit ...DER lets smash lamps..fry rotten meat or break DS lites for no reason..HATED that asshole Kevin perra..whatever his stupid name was...this network was a MTV clone...MTV sucks and G4 sucks..TV for the mindless.
Even X play was lame ..was much better as Extended Play back in the day.


Karma is a b!t.c.h isn't it:D

Die G4

chrismcq
10-13-2006, 11:58 PM
What goes around comes around.

I hope that Rev3 does NOT bring in the G4 shows because they were all horrible. Xplay was unbearable because Adam Sessler kept acting like a child and Morgan Webb was only kept on the show because she was a decent looking female.

Perhaps if they took away all the childs play of Xplay and made it a little more mature, it could be bearable.

A ressurection of The Screen Savers would be nice, but I don't see it happening because every member is now doing something different and it would be too difficult to bring everyone to the same place for a show everytime they wanted to do one.

And no, Kevin and Jay are not going to buy out the G4 shows and attempt to recreate TechTV. That would be a waste of their money when they have plenty of good, quality content here at Rev3.

samureye
10-14-2006, 01:23 AM
I like kevin Pereira, he just needs a better show. AOTS! is good sometimes, unbearable others. X-Play is the only reason to watch G4.

psbp516
10-14-2006, 02:25 AM
What goes around comes around.

I hope that Rev3 does NOT bring in the G4 shows because they were all horrible. Xplay was unbearable because Adam Sessler kept acting like a child and Morgan Webb was only kept on the show because she was a decent looking female.

Perhaps if they took away all the childs play of Xplay and made it a little more mature, it could be bearable.



You do realize that they act that way because it brings in more viewers right? Adam didn't use to act that way and he probably doesn't act like that in real life. Neither does morgan. Its show biz to act like a douche to have a more likeable "character". Maybe we'll see the real adam and morgann once they go to rev3? Its a slight posibility since they are still kind of friends and they do need jobs. Anyway I liked x-play and didn't mind adam and morgann in the first place...

Also, does this mean that Leo gets rights to TSS back? This could lead to something good! :)

ryudo
10-14-2006, 02:36 AM
^ yes acting like total retards gets better ratings..that is why G4 was ranked 57th out of 64 basic cable networks.

While TV ratings were going down thanks to all these networks dumbing down ..sites like You tube and other video sites/Podcast site hits went up.

psbp516
10-14-2006, 02:41 AM
^ yes acting like total retards gets better ratings..that is why G4 was ranked 57th out of 64 basic cable networks.

While TV ratings were going down thanks to all these networks dumbing down ..sites like You tube and other video sites/Podcast site hits went up.

It was the highest rated show on g4. Now thats not saying much because yes the network as a whole, sucks.

scott1
10-14-2006, 05:02 AM
Who cares?
G4 sucks I stoped watching it a long time ago.

bman
10-14-2006, 05:58 PM
Who cares?
G4 sucks I stoped watching it a long time ago.

Doesn't exactly suck, just not as good as techtv was.

klitzy
10-14-2006, 05:59 PM
Doesn't exactly suck, just not as good as techtv was.

No....It really does just suck. I like E though. Hehe its my guilty pleasure. I love the 101's.

bman
10-14-2006, 06:06 PM
yea e is some good candy

lol:rolleyes:

scott1
10-14-2006, 07:56 PM
yea e is some good candy
Of course candy is not good for your health...

amal8301
10-14-2006, 08:24 PM
I stopped watching everything but X-play a long time ago. I still watch TSS err AOTS until Sarah left. I hope that Adam, Morgan and yes even Pereira come to Rev3. I thought that after G4 flushed everything tech out, it just progressively got worse. What else can I say but G4 had it coming. :p

ryudo
10-14-2006, 08:33 PM
even Pereira come to Rev3.


HELL NO!!!!

klitzy
10-14-2006, 08:41 PM
HELL NO!!!!

Eh em....Why not?

ryudo
10-14-2006, 08:47 PM
He is one of the most annoying idiotic people on TV...he fits mindless shit tv like Mtv and G4.
Revision3 is trying to build quality shows with Quality hosts not dumbed down MTV ish crap hosts..to be "hip"

bman
10-14-2006, 09:15 PM
He is one of the most annoying idiotic people on TV...he fits mindless shit tv like Mtv and G4.
Revision3 is trying to build quality shows with Quality hosts not dumbed down MTV ish crap hosts..to be "hip"

you have a point.

klitzy
10-14-2006, 09:16 PM
I personally don't think he's that bad....A little on the "POP/MTVesque" but I think that if he was put behind a revision3 show, he might be completely different. He is in essence an actor playing a role on Attack of the Show.

hegemony
10-14-2006, 09:38 PM
I personally don't think he's that bad....A little on the "POP/MTVesque" but I think that if he was put behind a revision3 show, he might be completely different. He is in essence an actor playing a role on Attack of the Show.

Yeah, that's all he is... an actor. He doesn't know about anything as far as I can tell. On Rev3 people actually have skills.

klitzy
10-14-2006, 10:18 PM
Yeah, that's all he is... an actor. He doesn't know about anything as far as I can tell. On Rev3 people actually have skills.

Oh come on now...Kevin and Alex were both on The Screensavers and were very different on G4TechTV than they are on Diggnation partially because on Diggnation, they aren't acting and they are to a certain extent, just being theirselves while on AOTS, they had a set agenda and were executing this "agenda" by acting and of course as in all shows....The personality shines through but not as much as if the actors were thrown onto a network such as Revision3....

All I am saying is give him a chance first and don't be so critical because you have only ever known Kevin Pereira as the AOTS Kevin Pereira and not the Revision3(ADD OTHER NETWORK) Kevin Pereira.

Eeh...Notice how I am calling Revision3 a network...Hmm? Is it a network?

chrismcq
10-15-2006, 11:07 PM
Ok, you caught me.

I do realize that Adam and Morgan are hosts/actors. But I prefer someone who is rating video games to not act like 4 year old kid with ADHD.

If they stopped dumbinb down their shows maybe more of their original audience could have stood for it.

Thats what makes Rev3 great is that they are not dumbing down their shows to please the masses.

If people from G4 ARE brought over, hopefully they wont act like children and more like professionals who know what they are doing.

klitzy
10-15-2006, 11:23 PM
Ok, you caught me.

I do realize that Adam and Morgan are hosts/actors. But I prefer someone who is rating video games to not act like 4 year old kid with ADHD.

If they stopped dumbinb down their shows maybe more of their original audience could have stood for it.

Thats what makes Rev3 great is that they are not dumbing down their shows to please the masses.

If people from G4 ARE brought over, hopefully they wont act like children and more like professionals who know what they are doing.

All relative...Alot of people would say Diggnation is brought down with the rants about nothing and off topicness. I wish I had more time to comment on this and I might later but basically...the "dumbing down" is all relative to your own personality and their job is to "dumb it down" so it reaches the most number of people....and I guess many would say it failed.

EDIT:Off topicness?? Haha.

ryudo
10-15-2006, 11:25 PM
Morgan believe it or not does know a few things about computers..she used to be on TSS..WAY back when she took calls with Kevin rose and every so often gave some good tips and had a segment or two and was herself not this act she puts up on G4:confused:

amal8301
10-15-2006, 11:30 PM
The off topic drunken banter is the whole reason I watch Diggnation.
Also about Adam acting like a 4yr old with ADHD, thats why the show is popular. Well that and Morgan being hot. If they just droned on and on about the games nobody would watch it.

tribis
10-15-2006, 11:52 PM
the show is getting bought by "E"?....poor old x-play which the only thing left may soon get some changes, which was the only show i still liked may go by the wayside.

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/10/13/gamers-in-trouble-g4-moves-to-e/
The Title for this thread is bullshit and misleading as Comcast cant sell G4 to E! as they [Comcast] own both, I suggest the author of this thread read the article he posted kthxbye

Read the story you submitted and you'll know that E! is not buying G4 considering E! is not its own channel, as most channels if not all are owned by parent companies.

E! is 50% owned by Comcast who owns G4, so what they are doing is consolidating E! and G4 meaning E! will in essence control what airs on G4. Kinda like how alot of WB stations have become one with UPN stations. Hopefully G4 will not become one with E! but you get the idea.

If you wanted to know the other %s 40% of E! is owned by Disney and 10% by Liberty Media.

rowlodge
10-16-2006, 12:43 AM
G4 "moves" to "E"...

njshadow
10-16-2006, 12:50 AM
Ok, you caught me.

I do realize that Adam and Morgan are hosts/actors. But I prefer someone who is rating video games to not act like 4 year old kid with ADHD.

If they stopped dumbinb down their shows maybe more of their original audience could have stood for it.

Thats what makes Rev3 great is that they are not dumbing down their shows to please the masses.

If people from G4 ARE brought over, hopefully they wont act like children and more like professionals who know what they are doing.

The funny thing about X-Play trying to dumb things down, is that when they tell a stupid joke, it actually involves something that a smart person might know, but they take that and turn it into some stupid little joke. And regarding Adam and Morgan acting dumb, they are both extremely intelligent people, but G4 took that intelligence and shrank it to the size of a peanut. Believe me, Morgan is a genius with Linux and Adam is a true gamer with some smarts to boot. It's just too bad that G4 screwed the whole thing up. G4 may be stupid, but it's the only one of its kind on TV. For that I'll somewhat miss it, if it goes off the air.

ringwurm
12-06-2006, 08:46 PM
yup, i loved TechTV, they had so many good shows. G4 when it just started was ok, even though i was pissed about the merge, and then take over. But when they got rid of good show, and screwed up others (got rid of Sarah on AOTS...only good person on that show). I would really welcome the revival of some TechTV shows on Revision3. Although NOT tommy tallarico. or Kristin holt. i hate those assholes.

famicoman
12-06-2006, 11:44 PM
If only they could make it as good as it once was...

njshadow
12-07-2006, 01:28 AM
Maybe with G4 being such a loss "someone" should try to get some investors to buy G4 and bring back techTV. Hmmm... who could orchestrate that? *cough*Kevin and Jay*cough*

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That would be awesome!!!:D

yashar
12-07-2006, 01:29 AM
People actually like x-play? That show is the definition of annoying television. I only liked tech tv, not g4techtv or the crap that is now g4tv.

njshadow
12-07-2006, 01:34 AM
Well X-Play USED to be good when Adam and Morgan actually had minds of their own instead of reading some pretty annoying lines and jokes. I noticed when Morgan went on "Attack of The Show" the other week she was just being herself. I actually saw the old Morgan starting to shine through. Oh man, I miss the good ol' TechTv days when Morgan was on X-Play AND The Screensavers.

ryudo
12-07-2006, 01:34 AM
Someone here at REV had this in there sig and I use it as a sig on other MBs I frequent.

"Perhaps the reason they haven't been able to make 'gaming TV' work is because they haven't done gaming TV. Maybe if they had 15 total minutes of programming that doesn't treat it's viewership like a a pack slavering mongrel inbreds that think Tommy Tallarico shoving things down his pants is intensive journalism."

magunwarrior
12-07-2006, 01:38 AM
I used to adore X Play quite a bit. But now with the new set, Adam and Morgan have reached new levels of douche baggery. They always knit pick on every last detail of every game that really isn't all that bad in the first place. But I digress, G4 can never be brought back from what it is now, I mean look at some of their new programming that consists of the most low brow shows that have nothing to do with tech, let alone videogames. Oh well, Tech TV will still live on in our hearts.

ryudo
12-07-2006, 01:48 AM
http://www.vgcats.com/comics/images/061127.jpg

vahnx
12-07-2006, 02:49 AM
I remember when I first heard of G4TechTV. It was possibly TechTV I don't really know. All I remember was my buddy telling me of this TV show that actually had video games on it called Extended Play. I remember seeing the cosplayers dueling it out and Adam was there having fun with them. But when they changed the show to XPlay and added Morgan, which acts like this one tard I know at school, I stopped watching it.

Extended Play was cool with just Adam. I don't remember him having a co-host and he was more fun solo with that wacky hairdo.

ryudo
12-07-2006, 05:40 AM
Adam did have a co host on Extended play for a bit ..former TSS co host Kate botello(sp)

rockie
12-08-2006, 06:06 AM
OK, so heres my plan.
We buyup G4, and all the rights associated with it. We dump all the execs and directors and whoever that suck, and keep who is good, keep the payrole people and some others that would be essential. Then, offer Rev3 12hrs of prime time air time for extremely low costs, bring back some of the other good shows for non prime time (tech live, the screen savers) and create a few new shows. Bring in the prime time content completly commercial free, and when there is commercials out of the prime time, they are to only be aired between shows, not during a show, or we cut the ads to 30 seconds, and back to the show it is, ok, ok, maybe a min tops for a quick bathroom break, but thats about it. Essentially, the shows will also be able to be aired where they find a location suitable (home, mall, whatever) or let them use the studio for bigger events. ads would be related to the content, and ads would by company policy would require the advertiser to include some sort of discount over 8% to anyone who sees the ad and remembers to use a code or something (always good to have viewer incentives like that). Could also offer DL.TV some airtime, and the same idea. Aslo, hunt down Yoshi, and Pat Norton, and some of the other ex-hosts, and offer them positions, with the company, allowing them to essentially work a show when they want or something like that. Some content could also be special web only content, and whatever. Veiwers would be encouraged to help spread word, and spread content online. all shows would also be availible just like rev3 content, minus the audio only streams, unless we set up a web radio stream that constantly plays, and you can download segments.
You can add what you feel is desirable for the plan.


Oh yea, I forgot... My credit line isnt 6 billion dollars. so this cant possibly happen. That would be an ideal situationg though. Leaving a show for gamers so they cant ***** and gripe. Oh, and the company would be renamed back to techtv.

Rant over...

sugarsickness
12-08-2006, 07:34 AM
Why do so many people want techtv back in it's original form?

cuberds
12-08-2006, 11:59 AM
Yoshi and Patrick aren't coming back to work on television in SF/LA. Yoshi has a job at an animation ffx company in Texas and Patrick is gainfully employed by ZD.

hive
12-08-2006, 12:38 PM
This is the way I see it. G4 was once innocent. It was nice authentic gaming tv. TechTV was once innocent. It was nice authentic tech television.

Then G4, with it's new reject SpikeTV exec, seeing something too pure in TechTV, riding on the confidence of having murdered the real G4, turned into a parasite, invaded TechTV's brain, and took control over it.

Then G4, now being one with TechTV, ate any discerning remains of it, and became G4 again. With shitty SpikeTV reject shows, airhead know-nothing hosts, and little to no "gaming" or "tech" shows in sight, it had no soul. Now, any of G4's real G4 or TechTV fans from the old days are long gone--retreating into the internet for bits and pieces of what were once awesome television channels.

The G4 of today treats their fanbase as drooling 18-34 year old smacktards with no real interest in either gaming or tech, and want some boobs and explosions to watch when MTV or SpikeTV are off air. They treat their audience like that, so that's what they'll get.

I'd rather see industry-authentic hosts with quality show material than some Hollywood idiot with a big smile.

G4 is the abomination of humanity. Let it die.

lupin
12-08-2006, 01:12 PM
G4 is the lowest rated basic cable network in the USA, straight from the Wiki. G4 made a gamble and it failed. When they where G4TechTV they offered something unique, a network dedicated to gaming and tech news and things Techies and Gamers like. But they got greedy, they saw that the term "gamer" was quickly starting to encompass a wider demographic of people. And they decided they would try to jump in on a different demo then which they where currently aimed at.

Now, I am not a TV producer nor have I ever worked at a station/network so I feel ok in calling the new demo they where going after the "lower middle class urban/inner city youth" demographic. The thing is though most people in that demographic probably didn't give 2 ****s about watching a channel about Games when all they did was play Madden on weekends. Even though G4 did stray far from its roots, at its core it was still a station about games.

They alienated their long time fans of two separate networks and forced them to share an office with another crappy network E!. Basically what I believe is going to happen is G4 will be merged with the channel E! so that they are broadcasted at night a la [adult swim] (idk what the hell E! shows at nite, I think its infomercials and Bloomberg) in an effort to raise ratings. But Comcast will quickly realize the cost of production and upkeep is not outweighing the profit and return E! back to how it was. I expect all of this to happen by mid of next year.

Also, to whoever cares about this at Revision3, why not look into setting up local affiliates to air your content? Im not sure but if I remember correctly at some point at nite (10pm to 5am I think) the FCC is a lot loser on do's and don'ts probably to the point where no censorship would need to be taken on the shows. All though, you would probably actually get companies to pay for and run commercials during programs if you did implore censorship.

Or, on the same note, could be wrong here but I think anyone could do that themselves if they could fund it. But depending on what CC license Rev3 content is release under you might have to set up the station as a non-profit organization.

samureye
12-08-2006, 03:18 PM
I like X-Play, not as I did in the past, but they're doing new things and it's decent. Of course, I don't go out of my way to watch it or anything as I did in the past, if I see it on then I may watch it. As for the whole merging with E! thing, I really think that could work, Lupin.

masherscf
12-08-2006, 03:28 PM
I like X-Play, not as I did in the past, but they're doing new things and it's decent. Of course, I don't go out of my way to watch it or anything as I did in the past, if I see it on then I may watch it. As for the whole merging with E! thing, I really think that could work, Lupin.

X-play is a good show. It's a little more vapid then it was on TechTV. However, Adam is still pretty funny and Morgan Webb is getting better looking as she gets older and people spend more money on wardrome and personal trainers.

hive
12-08-2006, 04:24 PM
But they play XPlay for 2 hour blocks every day, sometimes multiple times. They know how shit the rest of their stuff is. It's dumb as hell. That's enough to make me hate the show.

rowlodge
12-08-2006, 05:13 PM
like "welfare" for poor g4 actors and actresses.

tokenuser
12-08-2006, 08:08 PM
Do people really care still? Haven't you moved on with your lives?

The former TechTV folk have. Leave the powers that be finish digging the grave for what is left of G4.

ryudo
12-08-2006, 08:24 PM
Do people really care still? Haven't you moved on with your lives?

The former TechTV folk have. Leave the powers that be finish digging the grave for what is left of G4.

Is that why they still call themselves Tech TV alum and Leo and chris and other former tech TV folk even the now may he RIP James kim (in his case was) are going to re group this spring for Undotv which they said recently on leos podcasts that is a forforming of Tech TV.


Millions of fans still care...there is a HUGE community still out there.
Some form of it needs to be brought back..it helped so many novices and enthusiasts alike and now it's needed more than ever..geekier people maynot NEED it but since technology is so mainstream these days most folk need that help and tech TV was working it's way there but shut down before it has a chance to reach more novices...Tech TV made me in the geek I am today.;)
It helped me personally in what I want to do but I do miss that talent and it's shows..some of my ffave ever.

tokenuser
12-08-2006, 08:30 PM
Is that why they still call themselves Tech TV alum and Leo and chris and other former tech TV folk even the now may he RIP James kim (in his case was) are going to re group this spring for Undotv which they said recently on leos podcasts that is a forforming of Tech TV.What I mean is that TechTV is no more. It is NOT G4, so why do we care what happens to G4??

The TechTV alum have all moved on with their lives and personal or corporate projects - but they have that connection to TechTV, not G4.

TechTV is dead as it was. It will never be resurrected, but the spirit of TechTV is being reborn in multiple locations ... revision3, undo.tv, dl.tv, etc. They are not TechTV ... they are something new an improved.

Everyone should let G4 just die and move onto the future rather than dwelling on the past.

samureye
12-08-2006, 09:11 PM
I agree with Token: You don't even need to watch G4 at all since they are the most podcasted network which is fancy talk for "People don't watch our stuff on TV but we give it away for free on iTunes while our sister network sells shows and this puts us at number 1 so we tout that because it's our only real claim to fame."...or something :s

ryudo
12-08-2006, 11:59 PM
Oh ok..nah I hate G4 thier shows suck so I don't watch at all...but I do hold it on them for the death of Tech TV since they took over and killed all the shows.

If any form is to come back of a tech tv like network I sure as hell don't want G4 involved in anyway shape or form.