The Revision3 Gazette

[mikwit]

What is it? I'm not a member, does it seem like a weekly thing or a random one like system?

[gi_josh]

It says it will be available to non members soon...is this true?

[magunwarrior]

Why would they say it if it isn't true Josh?

[tokenuser]

To mess with your minds.

[kingkilr]

Why would they say it if it isn't true Josh?

If they had copied the page from diggnation and hadn't fixed it?

[sarahlane]

Hi guys,

Actually, that's a mistake on our part and needs to be fixed. The Revision3 Gazette is a feature for members only, not because we want to leave anyone out, but because we want to give our members more reasons to love us!

For those of you who can watch, I hope you enjoy it. Membership has its benefits. :)

[kingkilr]

Incoming pirates 3.2.1...

[blazes816]

Pretty cool. I'd love to work there. Mabey I'll apply in 2 years when I can move out to SanFran. ;).

[sugarsickness]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


:(

[undisclosedpower]

I just watched it and thought it was great, really nice to get some behind the scenes stuff. It finally got me to pony up and becoming a paying member. Hopefully I won't regret that.

However, is there any reason that it isn't avaliable as a download? I can only see it in the flash player, which is fine. But i'd rather be able to download the content and view it on my xbox or in the media player of my choosing on my computer... especially if I am paying for it.

Either way great show, loving it and hoping for much more to come.

[magunwarrior]

It's probably because they don't want mirror sites offering it for free.

[travislopes]

That was pretty rad. I am glad that members are finally getting more exclusive stuff.

Like undisclosedpower said, why isn't it available for download? I could understand if it's to stop "piracy", but for some of us *cough*me*cough* it's way more sluggish to watch it via the Flash player with our laptops from 2004.

Other than that, I'm looking forward to the next episodes.

[rlitchfield]

It was great to see Sarah Lane again on video, glad to see she has bounced back from the depths of hell called G4TV. I must admit, I'm pretty pleased that the best of TechTV is now working for Revision3 (Martin, Sara, Kevin, Patrick). I'd love to see Adam and Morgan join the team as well, but alas, they are the only ones holding together that other station.

Best of luck to everyone at Revision3 and thanks for starting to add some additional value to being a member.

Robert

[gillsterhill]

Hi guys,

Actually, that's a mistake on our part and needs to be fixed. The Revision3 Gazette is a feature for members only, not because we want to leave anyone out, but because we want to give our members more reasons to love us!

For those of you who can watch, I hope you enjoy it. Membership has its benefits. :)

SARA!!! i miss the techtv days

i talked to u once on AOTS once haha

i doubt u would remember

[blazes816]

i talked to u once on AOTS once haha

How many times? :p

[undisclosedpower]

Oh, yes, the other thing I was wondering, since I assume this is going to be weekly, is it always going to be released on the same day and time every week?

Also just because its in flash, I don't see how that stops someone from mirroring it? I seem to remember that somebody use to mirror the diggnation flash file at some point... but maybe i'm remebering incorectly?

[blazes816]

^Yes, it will be weekly (according to las chickas on the screen). I hope same day. Between TRS and this, my wednesday will not suck as much as it would normally.

[kingkilr]

Oh, yes, the other thing I was wondering, since I assume this is going to be weekly, is it always going to be released on the same day and time every week?

Also just because its in flash, I don't see how that stops someone from mirroring it? I seem to remember that somebody use to mirror the diggnation flash file at some point... but maybe i'm remebering incorectly?

Nope, its still pretty easy, all you need to do is take the file=HERE param from the embed url.

[gi_josh]

Why would they say it if it isn't true Josh?

Hi guys,

Actually, that's a mistake on our part and needs to be fixed. The Revision3 Gazette is a feature for members only, not because we want to leave anyone out, but because we want to give our members more reasons to love us!



Hmmm......is that Josh FTW Magun?? :D

[magunwarrior]

Hmmm......is that Josh FTW Magun?? :D

Hey...shut up.

[gillsterhill]

How many times? :p

?? once lol

[trench]

I liked it and it's nice for members to get a perk.

[rustyknife]

was a good insight.

one thing though, jim works for rev3??? wtf since when did that happen? i though he was high up in ziffdavies?

[gi_josh]

was a good insight.

one thing though, jim works for rev3??? wtf since when did that happen? i though he was high up in ziffdavies?

Jim who, for those of us that haven't seen it?

[logant]

Jim who, for those of us that haven't seen it?

Jim Louderback.

[tangerine]

This is a very nice bonus for members.
Would like to see a behind-the-scenes for one of your shows
(filming/editing)
Outtakes!

[jay]

Yeah, Jim's the new CEO. They made me the janitor, I clean out the fridge.

[blazes816]

But not the biscuits, right?

[joeyrock]

Not wanting to sound like some one who is advocating the "pirating" of member only content....
But....
I've been a viewer of Diggnation from the beginning and watch pretty much half of all revision3 shows. I don't watch the other half because I don't like them. I'm guessing that I would be the kind of viewer that you guys would like to become a member. I don't care enough about getting shows early, so I wouldn't subscribe for that reason.... However I might for some good exclusive content. But for me to want to do that, I would have to know what I'm getting for my money. Wouldn't it make sense release the first "Gazette" to everyone to get them on board?
Otherwise I'll check this show out somewhere else or youtube or something. I pretty much have no choice.... I'm not going to spend cash on a sight unseen show.

[spinney]

Lol i love the show but this is sooo my idea


IM SUEING

haha im just kidding but for real i did say a Rev3 doc/behind the scenes would be cool in the pilot episode forums

[eminemdrdre00]

However I might for some good exclusive content. But for me to want to do that, I would have to know what I'm getting for my money. Wouldn't it make sense release the first "Gazette" to everyone to get them on board?
Otherwise I'll check this show out somewhere else or youtube or something. I pretty much have no choice.... I'm not going to spend cash on a sight unseen show.

Excellent point, if you want to see it, theres a website out there that offers Diggnation early, well it has this video too.

[scoobydiesel]

yay besides supporting the great peeps at rev3 i finally get content from my membership
<3

[nextgenxbox]

No fair. Why can't I watch? This should be available to all the loyal viewers who can't subcribe. If it's a timed exclusive then that's cool but a 100% members only is just wrong. :(

[drukqs]

freaking sweet that they listen'd to us! thanks rev3!

[masherscf]

Yeah, Jim's the new CEO. They made me the janitor, I clean out the fridge.

You can also mod the forums. That's a pretty nasty job too.

[jay]

Interesting point about not being able to see it and know what you're missing...

I'll mention to the staff. Maybe they can create a teaser.

-j

[tokenuser]

Excellent point, if you want to see it, theres a website out there that offers Diggnation early, well it has this video too. ... and suddenly the "we are just allowing people to download content that they would be able to get a day or two later" argument is null and void.

eT4-MrIyPZs

Must be playing on a loop over at the "other" site.

[masherscf]

Interesting point about not being able to see it and know what you're missing...

I'll mention to the staff. Maybe they can create a teaser.

-j

They should want to see it just on my say-so. You should see the raunchy websites that Marty surfs at work!

[pyro200055412]

What about non-paying members? I'm never able to download something early and I cant download this. I think they should specify it a little more if thats the case.

[blazes816]

No fair. Why can't I watch? This should be available to all the loyal viewers who can't subcribe. If it's a timed exclusive then that's cool but a 100% members only is just wrong. :(

Are you kidding me!? That's like saying 'Charging for windows is just wrong', 'Paying for a computer is just wrong'. That's sick. You are seriously a sick person.

[hillbilly-rockstar]

So who was the noob with the camera? The lighting made me want to get up and take a break from it. Seriously in need of some help there. Otherwise awesome little tidbit of info.

[tokenuser]

So who was the noob with the camera? The lighting made me want to get up and take a break from it. Seriously in need of some help there. Otherwise awesome little tidbit of info.Camera was mobile. There are always whitebalance issues when people move from bright light to dark environments. Nothing the camera man could do about it except follow Sarah around with a mobile lighting crew (that Gobo on a really long extension cord).

[masherscf]

R3G is like a member only party isn't my computer. Seeing all those Revision 3 peeps behinds the scenes was a life changing experience. I really think that anyone who doesn't donate now is really missing out on a core experience of being a Revision3 fan.

"Losers always whine about their best. Members go home and watch Sarah Lane!"

[vahnx]

Excellent point, if you want to see it, theres a website out there that offers Diggnation early, well it has this video too.

Ah thanks =)
Forgot about that

[masherscf]

Ah thanks =)
Forgot about that

...and the pretense that downloading these things is morally acceptable.

[tokenuser]

Make me wonder if that site will be sending download stats.

Sing it with me everyone!

A S S H O L E ... A S S H O L E ...

I bet they all drive slow in the fast lane.

[masherscf]

I bet they all drive slow in the fast lane.

Dude, you typed "fast" twice...

[tokenuser]

No I didn't :rolleyes:

[masherscf]

No I didn't :rolleyes:

You and your tricksy ways!

[blazes816]

Can't Rev3 do something about it this time? If I remember right, they couldn't do anything about it when it was diggnation, because it got released early anyways. I whole heartidly think Rev3 should relicence this so that it is illegal for them to have it.

[masherscf]

Can't Rev3 do something about it this time? If I remember right, they couldn't do anything about it when it was diggnation, because it got released early anyways. I whole heartidly think Rev3 should relicence this so that it is illegal for them to have it.

Being a dick-head isn't illegal. They can just hope they people will actually be cool and help out.

[blazes816]

I would never bet on people being cool.

[masherscf]

I would never bet on people being cool.

People can be amazing cool. However, there are a lot of "douchbags" that like "diggnation."

[scrumfritter]

No fair. Why can't I watch? This should be available to all the loyal viewers who can't subcribe. If it's a timed exclusive then that's cool but a 100% members only is just wrong. :(

Translation: My mum won't let me use her credit card.

I'm joking man - no offense meant!

I pay every month to support the company, not to get extra content, but I love that you're willing to go that little bit extra and give us subscribers something special! It's always good to be treated well as a customer. :)

[milk93rd]

So the new show with the notes on the whiteboard...I'm guessing Martin's in charge of that?

[martinsargent]

I am in charge of absolutely nothing.

[nextgenxbox]

Translation: My mum won't let me use her credit card.

I'm joking man - no offense meant!

I pay every month to support the company, not to get extra content, but I love that you're willing to go that little bit extra and give us subscribers something special! It's always good to be treated well as a customer. :)

Lol. This guy. But no, I work but I just can't afford another bill -- know what I mean?

[tokenuser]

I am in charge of absolutely nothing.But you do get to ride the bike.

[jay]

I think you all should assume that member perk productions are all standard copyright. Whatever, there are always haters, you know the score. We'll deal with it. Meanwhile, enjoy!

[milk93rd]

But you do get to ride the bike.

I kept waiting for the bike to crash into a wall!

[therage800]

I am in charge of absolutely nothing.

Then how come your profile says your occupation is "running shit"?

[masherscf]

I refuse to think that things are that destitute over at Revision3 while those fossil biscuits go uneaten.

On the other hand, I think it's pretty unreasonable for a person who is unwilling to supply the requested donation to expect to be given any shred of media without obligation on the grounds that they are a loyal fan.

I refuse to accept that any person capable of using pay-pal can reasonably refuse $5/month.

Five dollars is such a small amount. I think that most people who object to paying it are doing so merely on principle. However, I don't seem to understand any principle on which this seems to be based, other than the ubiquitous culture of grabbing free stuff off the net. I guess I'm guilty of snagging a "free" download from time-to-time.

However, I also participate in a culture of giving. I give to revision 3 and some other podcast networks. I also donate hundreds of dollars a year to cancer research.

Heck, when I'm spending $60/month on diapers. Sixty dollars per year just doesn't seem that important to save.

[jay]

I understand that point of view, but I know I can remember when $5/month was tough for me.

[logant]

I understand. But I'm 16 years old and I pay 5 dollars per month. I don't know, maybe it's because I have a job. I just opened a High School checking account and signed up for PayPal, extremely easy.

[travislopes]

Same here. I'm 14 years old and I pay 5 dollars per month. I don't have a job though (unless you consider doing freelance web design a job).

[nextgenxbox]

Same here. I'm 14 years old and I pay 5 dollars per month. I don't have a job though (unless you consider doing freelance web design a job).

Haha, yes that is a job dude.

[nextgenxbox]

I understand that point of view, but I know I can remember when $5/month was tough for me.

And look at you now. That's awesome Jay. Living proof that if you work hard and don't give up you can become successful!

[jay]

The tough thing, I think, is that all the tech work is in cities you can't afford to live in. That was the hardest hurdle.

[jlouderb]

Interesting point about not being able to see it and know what you're missing...

I'll mention to the staff. Maybe they can create a teaser.

-j

We talked about this today. We're going to release one a month to everyone... once we get the tech stuff worked out.

Speaking of which, check out our new Jobs section (http://www.revision3.com/jobs):)

jim

[blazes816]

I would love more than anything to work for rev3, but I'm not a python guy. Grr.

[cabster21]

I refuse to think that things are that destitute over at Revision3 while those fossil biscuits go uneaten.

On the other hand, I think it's pretty unreasonable for a person who is unwilling to supply the requested donation to expect to be given any shred of media without obligation on the grounds that they are a loyal fan.

I refuse to accept that any person capable of using pay-pal can reasonably refuse $5/month.

Five dollars is such a small amount. I think that most people who object to paying it are doing so merely on principle. However, I don't seem to understand any principle on which this seems to be based, other than the ubiquitous culture of grabbing free stuff off the net. I guess I'm guilty of snagging a "free" download from time-to-time.

However, I also participate in a culture of giving. I give to revision 3 and some other podcast networks. I also donate hundreds of dollars a year to cancer research.

Heck, when I'm spending $60/month on diapers. Sixty dollars per year just doesn't seem that important to save.

That's absolute rubbish. And a very ignorant view. It may be a small amount for you. But I'm a student and I work part time. My rent is $900 pm, and I quite often have less than $5 a day to live on. That doesn't buy you much food/beer. So to spend it on Rev3, is sometimes hard to justify. But I have become a member again. As right now I can afford to, but there will no doubt be times when I'm skint and the $5 will mean a lot. I pay because I now think it's worth it. I didn't use mirror sites when I wasn't a member, and this is the 3rd time I've become one. Hopefully will last a bit longer :rolleyes:

[tokenuser]

That's absolute rubbish. And a very ignorant view. It may be a small amount for you. But I'm a student and I work part time. My rent is $900 pm, and I quite often have less than $5 a day to live on. That doesn't buy you much food/beer. So to spend it on Rev3, is sometimes hard to justify. But I have become a member again. As right now I can afford to, but there will no doubt be times when I'm skint and the $5 will mean a lot. I pay because I now think it's worth it. I didn't use mirror sites when I wasn't a member, and this is the 3rd time I've become one. Hopefully will last a bit longer :rolleyes:Its a perfectly reasonable argument, and I think its one you just highlighted yourself.

I was unemployed after being laid off and while waiting for Visa paperwork to come through for my new job back in 2000. We had some savings, my wife had income to cover her studies, but it wasn't much - we had mortgage and car payments to make as well. So, we cut back on everything that was non essential. That meant things like dropping our cable TV back to well - free to air. The only "luxury" we didn't cut out was internet access, because I was using that to apply for other jobs, and work on proof of concept applications.

Money was tight. You need to decide what is important. If accessing a 30minute podcast once a week or downloading one 2 days earlier than everyone else IS important, then you pay the bill, and do it - otherwise you go without. Podcasts aren't exactly essential - they are an easy sacrifice to make.

[masherscf]

That's absolute rubbish. And a very ignorant view.

How is it ignorant? I was a college student for 12 years. Even at my poorest, I seem to have afforded $5/ month for movies and beer and other stiff I thought was important.

You should admit that it's not really the amount that people object to. It is paying anything at all in principal.

You feel you're a poor college student with burdensome rent responsibilities or whatever. I get that.

But, I've been to college. I've payed rent, I've had to feed myself on pennies a day. Where you are, I've been there. My observations are informed by that experience.

Labeling me as ignorant about such things in an attempt to dispel my opinion is really lame.

I also think that you're getting ripped off in the rent department. There's no reason a single college student needs to spend $900/rent. You must live in some seriously high-rent digs.

[iccanui]

Was enough to make me go renew my membership, which since i got a new card i was being lazy about.

Very enjoyable. Makes me wish i was working there. You guys seem to have a free spirited work environment.

[cabster21]

It's ignorant, because you're basing your opinion on your own experiences and not taking into account other possibilities. You're coming across as if anyone who doesn't justify spending the money, doesn't have good reasons and therefore doesn't deserve the same rights. You're labeling everyone who doesn't pay the same. When that just isn't true. Okay, you can afford to, good for you. And I believe members should get more members only material. But if someone does choose not to pay because of principles as you put it, who are you to say they have no valid reasons?

I live in the UK, where things are generally more expensive. And it's student halls I live in.

[blazes816]

Homeless people don't get movies for free.

If you can't pay for it, watch the free shows.

[masherscf]

You're coming across as if anyone who doesn't justify spending the money, doesn't have good reasons and therefore doesn't deserve the same rights.

You're expanding the context in to my statements. Don't. I mean exactly what I said and no more.

I'm very sorry you've gotten your hackles raised. We're all buddies here and there no reason for you to insult me because you don't agree with what I say. A simple, I don't agree because...

I will treat your opinion with equal courtesy.

It's temping to think that if two people have access to the same facts, they must also have the same opinions. This is often not the case.

As you point out, my life experience color my opinions. This doesn't make the opinions "ignorant." It just makes them different.


My opinion.

1. I think that everyone who can use Pal-Pay should donate.

I also think that there should be peace in the middle east. I think people should tip a full 25%. It doesn't make it so.


2. I think that anyone who says they don't contribute because they can't afford it are being disingenuous.

I never said that there aren't valid reason for not contributing. I didn't contribute for a long time because there weren't enough shows that I liked and I didn't have enough time to watch "diggnation" before Monday.


Anyhow, people who aren't contributing members DON'T have the same download rights. The reasons are irrelevant. It also has nothing to do with what a person deserves.

People who show there support by regularity downloading shows from the official download sites are probably very appreciated and even loved by the Revision 3 people.

[cabster21]

Saying your post was ignorant, isn't an insult. I'm sorry you couldn't understand that. If you read my post, you would see nothing was directed at you. But what you wrote. There is a big difference by me saying, "you're very stupid, what a pathetic thing to say" And me saying what you wrote was an ignorant statement. As I said, the way you wrote it, came across as your were looking down on people. I maybe misunderstood this, but I’ve merely taken the point you said, and put my views on the subject. I couldn't care less if you don't agree, as I wasn't arguing with you nor insulting you. The rest of my post was more geared towards Rev3 payment scheme. The only point that had me a little taken, was you "refuse to accept" which is a very bold statement. So expect it back.

I will say, if you feel Rev3 is worth it, become a member. There should be more members only material in my eyes. I'm not disputing your views, but you have to understand that, what works for someone doesn't for others. And I'm glad Rev3 doesn't refuse to accept this.

Again, I apologise if it came across as an insult. Maybe I shouldn’t have used the word rubbish, I don’t know, but it certainly wasn’t intended to be taken as one.

Cab.

[masherscf]

Again, I apologise if it came across as an insult. Maybe I shouldn’t have used the word rubbish, I don’t know, but it certainly wasn’t intended to be taken as one.

Cab.

It's forgotten. Have a beer on me.

[nextgenxbox]

We talked about this today. We're going to release one a month to everyone... once we get the tech stuff worked out.

Speaking of which, check out our new Jobs section (http://www.revision3.com/jobs):)

jim

Hey cool, it's Mr. Louderback - that's awesome.

I don't think I've ever seen a CEO post on a forum with the fans. :)