Mod selection and responsiblities

[muled]

Since Mods are new to rev3 boards I have a few questions. How were the mods chosen? Were they rev3 memebers that were given the responsibility or were they brought in from somewhere else with no connection to rev3? Are mods designated to specific areas or are they as a group responsible for all the forums? I think all the members deserve these answers.

Thanks

[slowmtnsilhouette]

Since Mods are new to rev3 boards I have a few questions. How were the mods chosen? Were they rev3 memebers that were given the responsibility or were they brought in from somewhere else with no connection to rev3? Are mods designated to specific areas or are they as a group responsible for all the forums? I think all the members deserve these answers.

Thanks

i definitely agree. why are mods designated to specific threads, but other mods can be enforcers?

[samureye]

Hm, well, there are Admins, Global Moderators, and one moderator with powers in one forum. We are assigned specific forums but as Global Moderators we look over the entire forum, just that we have specific forums to look in first. We aren't new to the Rev3 forums, just never posted much because the plone software was uber crappy, is all.

[muled]

Hm, well, there are Admins, Global Moderators, and one moderator with powers in one forum. We are assigned specific forums but as Global Moderators we look over the entire forum, just that we have specific forums to look in first. We aren't new to the Rev3 forums, just never posted much because the plone software was uber crappy, is all.

Ok can we get a list of who is who and responsible where? So are admins higher on the food chain than mods if we have an issue with a mod and want to take it to the proper person? Ya the good ole days with crappy software. Didn't stop alot of other people from posting.

[samureye]

We can get that. For myself, I was assigned Diggnation, General, Infected. As Global Moderators, we look over the entire forum as a whole, as well.

[bman]

It was really explained why you are chosen, how were you?

[rabidbadger]

From what I have Divined from the Bovine Deity, the moderators were chosen, like the lost tribe, by the Great Divine overlord Jay, hisself. Most probably due to their heroic powers in "The Forgotten World" of forums past. These minor deities were promoted to the hallowed Valhalla Hall of Moderation due to their skills in the valiant arts of Humor, Wisdom, and Reason, otherwise known as the Three Graces.

Minor Gods, such as Jason, Loki, and Klitzy, were somehow overlooked by the Great God Jay, and now, fraught with jelousy, haunt these forums, eternal and omnipresent, seeking the Holy Grail, the Golden Fleece, the Great Omnipotence, of Forum Glory: The High Holy Post Count.

And like God and Santa, they are always there. Now. Right behind you....

Don't bother looking. They can't even see themselves in a mirror, and you can only see them in your dreams. Or your NIGHTMARES.

MwwwHaaaaHaaHaa.

HHHaaaa. Haaa.

Ha...

Ok, so I mixed my mythologies, and am a suckass story teller. Eat me. :p

[briangilmore]

Ok can we get a list of who is who and responsible where? So are admins higher on the food chain than mods if we have an issue with a mod and want to take it to the proper person? Ya the good ole days with crappy software. Didn't stop alot of other people from posting.



also: http://www.revision3.com/forum/showgroups.php?

if you go the revision3 forums main page and go to the bottom it says "forums leaders" and you have a list of who does what, etc. :)

[samureye]

also: http://www.revision3.com/forum/showgroups.php?

if you go the revision3 forums main page and go to the bottom it says "forums leaders" and you have a list of who does what, etc. :)

I for some reason thought only the mods could see that.

[samureye]

From what I have Divined from the Bovine Deity, the moderators were chosen, like the lost tribe, by the Great Divine overlord Jay, hisself. Most probably due to their heroic powers in "The Forgotten World" of forums past. These minor deities were promoted to the hallowed Valhalla Hall of Moderation due to their skills in the valiant arts of Humor, Wisdom, and Reason, otherwise known as the Three Graces.

Minor Gods, such as Jason, Loki, and Klitzy, were somehow overlooked by the Great God Jay, and now, fraught with jelousy, haunt these forums, eternal and omnipresent, seeking the Holy Grail, the Golden Fleece, the Great Omnipotence, of Forum Glory: The High Holy Post Count.

And like God and Santa, they are always there. Now. Right behind you....

Don't bother looking. They can't even see themselves in a mirror, and you can only see them in your dreams. Or your NIGHTMARES.

MwwwHaaaaHaaHaa.

HHHaaaa. Haaa.

Ha...

Ok, so I mixed my mythologies, and am a suckass story teller. Eat me. :p

That qualifies as most totally the awesomest cool post ever for the day. Thanks for the chuckle.

[rabidbadger]

Ever? Or for the day? Make up your mind...;)

Jesus! (pronounced: Hey, Zeus!) it took me a month to write this post, even though the idea to post won't occur for another two days...

Damn Wormholes.

[samureye]

Ever? Or for the day? Make up your mind...;)

Jesus! (pronounced: Hey, Zeus!) it took me a month to write this post, even though the idea to post won't occur for another two days...

Damn Wormholes.

Both. I am specifically trying not be specific.

[rabidbadger]

and your failure to do so was a smashing success.

[sevver]

I just have to really wonder. Does it really matter? :rolleyes:

[klitzy]

Muwahaha....Tis me, the ghost of the revision3 forums.

[popltree2]

Muwahaha....Tis me, the ghost of the revision3 forums.

*pokes with a stick* Dude, you aren't dead. You aren't incorporeal. I'm pretty sure you aren't even sick, though I could be wrong. Some ghost you are. :D

[phatlip12]

Personally I was a member on the old Rev3 forums. Most of the moderators and our one administrator are mods/admins on Dan Huards Scopetech. We pretty much run the site for him and proved to be reliable which is why we are mods here. Go to Scopetech and ask any member what they think of us, Im sure almost everyone will say we play nice. ;) :P

[sevver]

I don't play well with others.:rolleyes:

[rabidbadger]

And I don't play well with myself...

[kowgod]

I got drunk one night. I woke up two days later in another city, and was a mod. It's the damndest thing!

[phatlip12]

I got drunk one night. I woke up two days later in another city, and was a mod. It's the damndest thing!

That happend to me once but instead of waking up in another city a mod it was under the pier with my pants around my ankles.

[kyro]

I'd just like to make it known that there are many out there who are angried by this whole moderator situation, not just a select few who decide to express it on the forums.

Allow me to explain.

Many fans feel that they should be given the opportunity to become moderators. Why? because they feel that they've invested much of their love and time into growing an attatchment to rev3, and would love to help. Giving the fans a method to apply for modship is in some ways giving back to the community for helping rev3 become what it is today. The fans sort of feel that they are entitled to be given such an opportunity because they feel they have a sense of experience and 'authority' for being with rev3 for such a long time, and rightfully so.

Now. With the revival of the forums, many fans thought that it was a fresh beginning for them, that they might be able to help out with these new forums, seeing as they've put a lot of time and have contributed much. However, upon joining the forums, it seemed that a special forces 'admin team' was recruited to run the show from day one. Us fans, who had not really recognized any of these moderators, were in a bit of shock and anger in seeing a group of people, whom they have never seen really involved with rev3, begin to mod them and express their authority over such fans that have spent countless hours contributing to the forums. They felt it offensive, which, in my opinion, is not an unusual reaction.

To have moderators that the community knows have been long time fans with them, the community has a special relationship with that mod, and furthermore, that special relationship will make for a much easier and less flamey atmosphere on the forums. I believe I have such a right to say that seeing that I've much experience with forums. By knowing that a moderator is a fellow fan as yourself, you can speak on the same level, you can relate more, you can have a sense of trust in the moderator, but, by having moderators come out of absolutely nowhere, there is a barrier between the community and them, which will only hurt things in the future.

To say that you didn't post on the old forums because of plone is stupid. Obviously, then, there were others who endured the boring interface and slow servers to post on the forums, and that endurance shows more of a contribution and loyalty to rev3, and makes them more entitled to receive the chance to become a mod.

You guys might've been great on the scopetech forums, I'm not doubting that, but just because Dan is your connection, doesn't mean that you'll fit right into here. It's a different community.

Granted, some of you mods are good, i.e. phatlip, tokenuser, etc., I just wish you guys can sort of understand where some of us are coming from and look beyond the 'I know dan, we were good on scopetech, i didn't post on the old forums because it was boring' excuses.

-kyro.

[wastern]

I'd just like to make it known that there are many out there who are angried by this whole moderator situation, not just a select few who decide to express it on the forums.

Allow me to explain.

Many fans feel that they should be given the opportunity to become moderators. Why? because they feel that they've invested much of their love and time into growing an attatchment to rev3, and would love to help. Giving the fans a method to apply for modship is in some ways giving back to the community for helping rev3 become what it is today. The fans sort of feel that they are entitled to be given such an opportunity because they feel they have a sense of experience and 'authority' for being with rev3 for such a long time, and rightfully so.

Now. With the revival of the forums, many fans thought that it was a fresh beginning for them, that they might be able to help out with these new forums, seeing as they've put a lot of time and have contributed much. However, upon joining the forums, it seemed that a special forces 'admin team' was recruited to run the show from day one. Us fans, who had not really recognized any of these moderators, were in a bit of shock and anger in seeing a group of people, whom they have never seen really involved with rev3, begin to mod them and express their authority over such fans that have spent countless hours contributing to the forums. They felt it offensive, which, in my opinion, is not an unusual reaction.

To have moderators that the community knows have been long time fans with them, the community has a special relationship with that mod, and furthermore, that special relationship will make for a much easier and less flamey atmosphere on the forums. I believe I have such a right to say that seeing that I've much experience with forums. By knowing that a moderator is a fellow fan as yourself, you can speak on the same level, you can relate more, you can have a sense of trust in the moderator, but, by having moderators come out of absolutely nowhere, there is a barrier between the community and them, which will only hurt things in the future.

To say that you didn't post on the old forums because of plone is stupid. Obviously, then, there were others who endured the boring interface and slow servers to post on the forums, and that endurance shows more of a contribution and loyalty to rev3, and makes them more entitled to receive the chance to become a mod.

You guys might've been great on the scopetech forums, I'm not doubting that, but just because Dan is your connection, doesn't mean that you'll fit right into here. It's a different community.

Granted, some of you mods are good, i.e. phatlip, tokenuser, etc., I just wish you guys can sort of understand where some of us are coming from and look beyond the 'I know dan, we were good on scopetech, i didn't post on the old forums because it was boring' excuses.

-kyro.

let me say this about that.

You don't need to be a mod to contribute and help out. Every person that posts threads, helps other, keeps things moving and fun is helping out and is valued.

You are saying that the mods were picked from day one. Can you think of another way to do it? That kind of had to be done, think about it. With a normal forum it would build slowly and people would rise up and gain trust. However being that this place was throw on digg from day 1 and had thousands of members...time and slow growth was not something on their side. They needed mods, many of them, from day one.

You need people you can trust as well. People that show up day one and post a lot aren't just going to get full access. Trust takes time. These guys happened to be in the right place at the right time on that other forum to build that trust with those in charge here. Thus they became mods. A "biggest fan" isn't always the best mod, they normally don't make good mods at all.....that is a whole other issue.

I can't believe so many people are crying and belaboring this point, nor does it make you look like someone mature enough to handle having such control over the board.

You may not think its "fair", but take a step back and look at it from another point of view. Its the best method they had available to them at the time. I haven't had a problem with any of the mods here and I'm not really sure what all the ruckus is about

Just post, contribute, have fun, and enjoy the forums. You don't have to be a mod to do that.

[kyro]

Looks like there was a quick enough response to have kowgod promoted to moderator status within days, and that was brought to you by the fans.

Time wouldn't have been an issue. You make it sound like these forums were up in flames and people were crossing lines the first day which constituted an immediate need for mods, which you and I know is not true, at all.

I didn't say you needed to become a moderator to contribute, it's just that it makes sense to give back to the community by rewarding them with such an opportunity.

Also, mods on first day did not give such a great first impression, an impression that is influencing my posts and many's view of this situation.

Yes, a biggest fan isn't always a best mod, but the fans can also suggest fellow members they feel would be good mods, as demonstrated within the first several days of this forum.

Oh, and to anyone who responds by saying 'you're such a baby, why do you care so much, man,' thanks for playing, but by saying that, you obviously cared about the matter enough to post but couldn't muster up anything of value to say.

-kyro.

[wastern]

Looks like there was a quick enough response to have kowgod promoted to moderator status within days, and that was brought to you by the fans.

Time wouldn't have been an issue. You make it sound like these forums were up in flames and people were crossing lines the first day which constituted an immediate need for mods, which you and I know is not true, at all.

I didn't say you needed to become a moderator to contribute, it's just that it makes sense to give back to the community by rewarding them with such an opportunity.

Also, mods on first day did not give such a great first impression, an impression that is influencing my posts and many's view of this situation.

Yes, a biggest fan isn't always a best mod, but the fans can also suggest fellow members they feel would be good mods, as demonstrated within the first several days of this forum.

Oh, and to anyone who responds by saying 'you're such a baby, why do you care so much, man,' thanks for playing, but by saying that, you obviously cared about the matter enough to post but couldn't muster up anything of value to say.

-kyro.

No, nothing big did happen, but when you have that many people hitting all at once you need to be prepared if something did happen.

So you're saying anyone that contributes should be a mod as a "reward". That would create way too many mods on the site. Only so many are needed, after that it just gets messy.

If people just want some sort of recognition thy could make another group that just kind of sets some of the "better" posters out from the crowd without making them mods. Is that what you are looking for?

I'm just trying to understand what it is you want? A pat on the back? What?

More mods will come with time, this forum is still VERY new. Give it time to work itself out


As for the last bit you wrote. I don't have too much to say there. I think a lot of what I said was well founded and I do care in some respect as this same topic keeps getting reposted and gets everyone upset for no good reason.

I was on a forum for 5 years, one of the top posters, most people thought I was a mod.....yet I wasn't. I never made a thread about it, PM anyone about it, or got upset about it. If they needed more people, so be it. If not, oh well, it was still a cool place to hang out. Other places I was made a mod on day 1...why? Because I 'knew' the person running the site, they trusted me and knew I would do right by them as they had been places where I was an admin before. Same as the mods here were chosen.

[kyro]

The reward would be GRANTING them an opportunity. The last bit wasn't directed towards you.

Your points are valid and taken.

I've said as much as I can say. :P

-kyro.

[klitzy]

You know...There is a PM function. No I actually like seeing two people having a valid non flaming argument. But I actually would love a pat on the back.

*Closes eyes and turns back to revision3 crowd*

[muled]

also: http://www.revision3.com/forum/showgroups.php?


Thanks Bri that's what I was looking for. Who's responsible for what and who's in charge of whom.

*Edited to fix my English because satori is anal retentive*

[r3v]

You know...There is a PM function. No I actually like seeing two people having a valid non flaming argument. But I actually would love a pat on the back.

*Closes eyes and turns back to revision3 crowd*Now, go on and fall back. We'll catch ya. Honest.

[simon]

I guess the issue started when members were requesting the addition of moderators on the old forums, but with themselves in mind. The the new forums are created and new mods added without consulting them, so they feel rejected. I can see why, but I honestly can't understand the issue. Should the top diggers on digg have admin status?! :S Its only a discussion board - having a few extra permissions doesn't improve people's perception of you, and if you only want the power to feel superior, should you even have it?

At the end of the day, the board staff are all right in my book, and they have a proven track record on Dan's board. It would be a pain in the ass if someone got promoted then started raising hell because they were a bit too immature. ;)

[phatlip12]

I guess the issue started when members were requesting the addition of moderators on the old forums, but with themselves in mind. The the new forums are created and new mods added without consulting them, so they feel rejected. I can see why, but I honestly can't understand the issue. Should the top diggers on digg have admin status?! :S Its only a discussion board - having a few extra permissions doesn't improve people's perception of you, and if you only want the power to feel superior, should you even have it?

At the end of the day, the board staff are all right in my book, and they have a proven track record on Dan's board. It would be a pain in the ass if someone got promoted then started raising hell because they were a bit too immature. ;)

*claps hands*

[masherscf]

*claps hands*

You're like, so immature Phatty!



You know how I feel about being a mod. I'd rather be the guy who scrubs out the office toilet. Thank god someone wants to do it and not be psycho about it.

Of course, I don't think being a Scopetech mod is such a big cred. I mean, I love you guys, but after you got rid of FishBoi, what else was there to do? (j/k)

[jjallday]

It's a game played in every forum, message board, and BBS since the beginning of time. Everyone wants to be a mod until they actually are one and find out how bad it sucks.