Holy Crap! they all quit smoking!

[rabidbadger]

After several weeks of not seeing my friends cause they went out of town, etc, I finally see them tonight and all of a sudden they all quit smoking cigarettes! Wow! Good for them, no doubt! But dang they were cranky. I left after less then an hour! (one couple got into a fight. they Never fight in public!) And then they said if I want a smoke, I have to go out front so they don't have to see/smell it...

I would love to quit with them, but they reinforce each other. They live a block away from each other, and some work together. But I only see them weekends. Not there for support or TO support. I really wanna quit.

In fact, out of smokes right now. Have to go get some... :(

[nextgenxbox]

Just stop. Smoking is disgusting.

[rabidbadger]

Um, appreciate the thought. Just aint that easy... Not after 20 years.

[ariastar]

Cigarettes kill, Dear. Quit it!!

[rabidbadger]

So do cars. Should we all quit driving?

[muffins]

...wow. Addiction makes you give stupid argument points too.

Sure cars are bad for us, but a cigarette is direct. Right into your lungs. Its one thing if you're too addicted to quit...but cars? Wow.

edit: Oh and to answer your question: Yes, we should stop driving. We won't but we should.

Don't try to say "if you can't stop driving then you can see why I can't stop smoking!"

A car is necessary to the world we live in nowadays. It would be almost impossible to get by since our society is built around being able to travel far and fast. A cigarette is a "luxury" - I use that term loosely.

[ariastar]

So do cars. Should we all quit driving?

Bad argument. There are benefits to cars. What benefits are there to cigarettes? (If I slip and call them fags, no insult intended - I was raised southern and my dad's side lived in a French area.) Cigs cost money to give yourself direct cancer, make you look older, smell bad, less attractive...

[ariastar]

...wow. Addiction makes you give stupid argument points too.

Sure cars are bad for us, but a cigarette is direct. Right into your lungs. Its one thing if you're too addicted to quit...but cars? Wow.

edit: Oh and to answer your question: Yes, we should stop driving. We won't but we should.

Don't try to say "if you can't stop driving then you can see why I can't stop smoking!"

A car is necessary to the world we live in nowadays. It would be almost impossible to get by since our society is built around being able to travel far and fast. A cigarette is a "luxury" - I use that term loosely.

10,000% in agreement. With very single word you said.

And if anyone says a car is a luxury, well, we need vehicles to get around, be it a private car or transit. There is no need for cigs. Pot has benefits, a little alcohol does too, but not cigs. They exist to put money in corporate pockets at the cost of giving the smoker cancer.

[rabidbadger]

I don't disagree with either of you guys. But really. It is Tough to quit. Really is. :(

[heyseuss]

I could do without cars. I haven't driven one in 3 years,. .. I been sitting at home smoking lucky strike non-filtered instead of driving around.

[rabidbadger]

Ahh!, heyseuss. Always the voice of reason. :) (ps: we talkin about you behind your back in blackfox)

[ariastar]

I don't disagree with either of you guys. But really. It is Tough to quit. Really is. :(

Dying of cancer is harder.

[ariastar]

I could do without cars. I haven't driven one in 3 years,. .. I been sitting at home smoking lucky strike non-filtered instead of driving around.

Do you go anywhere? Take the bus?

[heyseuss]

Do you go anywhere? Take the bus?

I rarely go anywhere. I take taxi's now and then. Alex gave me a ride once.

[masherscf]

I don't no. I don't approve of smoking but... Bicking with your wife can kill ya to.

[heyseuss]

Dying of cancer is harder.

NO it's not. It's quite easy, you don't even have to really do anything, you just start living less, more each day.

[scoobydiesel]

i dont smoke, not a fan of smoking and what not, hope you can find a way to quit.

I know 2 people who quit by using jolly ranchers....the candy...

[masherscf]

NO it's not. It's quite easy, you don't even have to really do anything, you just start living less, more each day.

You've missed the incredible pain as you waste away in from your you family. Have you ever watched someone die of cancer? I have. Aria is dead right.

[heyseuss]

You've missed the incredible pain as you waste away in from your you family.

I kinda get what you are saying, kinda confused me with the 'in from your you' line. Yes, when you die your family suffers. But that's just your family's misinterpretation of how beautiful death is, especially from a life of cancer.

I don't no. I don't approve of smoking but... Bicking with your wife can kill ya to.

Mash, are you ok today? Typos happen, but not that often to you.


Have you ever watched someone die of cancer? I have. Aria is dead right.

Only my father, mother, sister and friend.... and 2 dogs. All started when I was about 19. The final moments of my friend and father were excruciatingly painful and I was relieved for them when I shut their eye-lids. I don't smoke because I'm addicted Mash.

[masherscf]

Only my father, mother, sister and friend.... and 2 dogs. All started when I was about 19. The final moments of my friend and father were excruciatingly painful and I was relieved for them when I shut their eye-lids.

We're part of the "watched parents die of cancer brotherhood."

Anyhow, I make typos all the time. Usually, I correct them. I had to eat dinner though.

[nextgenxbox]

So do cars. Should we all quit driving?

That's a stupid comparison.

Just stop with the excuses and QUIT damn it!

[masherscf]

That's a stupid comparison.

Just stop with the excuses and QUIT damn it!

Sure, cars don't kill people when used properly.

[leem]

Why would you post a thread about quitting cigarettes and then try to give good reasons to smoke them? I guess I don't understand the point of this thread.

[gi_josh]

Joel, if you want to quit, we can be your inspiration on here. Everytime you want a cig, get on and we can talk you down!

[rabidbadger]

Why would you post a thread about quitting cigarettes and then try to give good reasons to smoke them? I guess I don't understand the point of this thread.

I agree about the car analogy. I think I was just kinda sorta stating a general attitude about so many things in life able to kill us. But I also have this issues about how fragile we humans are, but also how resilient. And how it's different for everyone. Someone can smoke unfiltered luckys their whole life and die of old age, and some people get cancer for no known reason...

Sorry, just thinkin out loud...

[rabidbadger]

Joel, if you want to quit, we can be your inspiration on here. Everytime you want a cig, get on and we can talk you down!

Dude, I appreciate that, but not really workable. I don't have web at work, and also, people who have needed my help couldn't get me online, and people who offered help to me were not online.

A timing issue really!

Also: I smoke so much I would be bugging you every 15 minutes! :)

[heyseuss]

And how it's different for everyone. Someone can smoke unfiltered luckys their whole life and die of old age, and some people get cancer for no known reason...

Sorry, just thinkin out loud...

My dad only drank as a young man. Throughout life, never drank never smoked. He ran marathons all over the world, he worked out. He was unemployed for 3 months from the time he was 8 yrs old to the day her died. When diagnosed, he was given 4-6 months to live, or, 6months-1yr with alot of chemo. He died a little less than a month later. He was 57.

[rabidbadger]

:(

My dad was a cancer survivor, but ultimately died a lingering death from unknown reasons. Unknown because he pretended to be a Jehovahs Witness, and wouldn't take blood so they could stabalize him and figure out how to treat him. As far as I'm concerened, Dad commited slow suicide... which, ironically, is heavily verbotten in Hovie-land!

I hate religion.

[masherscf]

I And how it's different for everyone. Someone can smoke unfiltered luckys their whole life and die of old age, and some people get cancer for no known reason...


There's actually a survival gene that helps the body deal with free radicals. Not everyone has it and no one knows how it gets activated. Occasionally you hear stories about people who live to their hundreds with drinking and smoking and having unprotected sex. The narrowed the gene to a particular population of eastern European Jewish immigrants in New York who were known for longevity. My wife's gramma Peggy is 95 and smokes like chimney and his healthy as the proverbial horse.

[ariastar]

I kinda get what you are saying, kinda confused me with the 'in from your you' line. Yes, when you die your family suffers. But that's just your family's misinterpretation of how beautiful death is, especially from a life of cancer.

Dude, that's twisted. Death itself may be a beautiful thing in that it's a part of life, but the pain of cancer is not beautiful. Find beauty in your own pain, but not in the pain of others.

[ariastar]

Why would you post a thread about quitting cigarettes and then try to give good reasons to smoke them? I guess I don't understand the point of this thread.

He was rooting his friends on and the rest of us want him to quit as well.

[ariastar]

Dude, I appreciate that, but not really workable. I don't have web at work, and also, people who have needed my help couldn't get me online, and people who offered help to me were not online.

A timing issue really!

Also: I smoke so much I would be bugging you every 15 minutes! :)

Joel, we love you enough to want you to quit. Do you have a cell phone with text? Send me a text message to occupy your hands. I wouldn't feel you were bugging me. If it even stops you from smoking one or two cigarettes a day for a few days, then another one or two later, then you're making progress.

[ariastar]

My dad only drank as a young man. Throughout life, never drank never smoked. He ran marathons all over the world, he worked out. He was unemployed for 3 months from the time he was 8 yrs old to the day her died. When diagnosed, he was given 4-6 months to live, or, 6months-1yr with alot of chemo. He died a little less than a month later. He was 57.

Chemo isn't living. I was on it (it's not only for cancer) and it was horrible. Better to live a shorter time than to prolong the agony if the prognosis is as poor as a year. I'm sorry about your dad.

[ariastar]

:(

My dad was a cancer survivor, but ultimately died a lingering death from unknown reasons. Unknown because he pretended to be a Jehovahs Witness, and wouldn't take blood so they could stabalize him and figure out how to treat him. As far as I'm concerened, Dad commited slow suicide... which, ironically, is heavily verbotten in Hovie-land!

I hate religion.


Getting blood hurts.

[ariastar]

Since everyone is sharing how their dads died...

My dad was sick somehow and wouldn't let us know how. We know he found out when my mom, a nurse, tested positive for Hep. C and they suggested my dad also get tested. (Turns out they detected my mom's tighter, her immunization to Hep. C.)

Anyway, my dad went to a football game and came home insanely drunk. He stumbled in the door and said, "I'm fucking tired of this bullshit, I'm gonna shoot myself." Something in me told me he was serious, and I screamed for my mom, who ran down the hallway into the den. I looked into the den and said I was going to call the cops, and my dad pointed his Colt .45 at me and said his last words to me. "I'm gonna shoot you, I'm gonna shoot your mother." So I said, "Fine, I'm leaving," and quickly backed out of the door, knowing my mom's only chance was going to be if I got the hell out of the way.

My dad blew his brains out almost four years ago, in front of my mom, with me outside the door. My dad's family blames me to this day for not trying to wrestle him, taking a bullet if need be. It was put into writing that I should have died instead.

My mom later found a doctor's report that my dad's liver had atrophied to the point that it was pretty much non-existent.

The only part I really have trouble with now is still that I couldn't make myself go into the room afterward to see him when he was still moving. It was traumatizing enough having my dad threaten me and not being sure if my mom would live, and then going in there after the coroner had gone and seeing what was left. I managed to convince myself it was bread and spaghetti sauce for a couple years that I saw.

I've got no problem talking about this, nothing to be ashamed of, the way a lot of survivors of suicide situations are told to be. People can openly talk about cancer or car crashes, but there's such a strong stigma around suicide that those who went through it with someone often are stuck feeling alone.

[heyseuss]

Dude, that's twisted. Death itself may be a beautiful thing in that it's a part of life, but the pain of cancer is not beautiful. Find beauty in your own pain, but not in the pain of others.

Oh cmon Aria, you thoroughly misinterpretted me. I didn't say the pain of cancer is beautiful, I said escaping it was.


You're more than welcome to express more about your last post Aria, I don't think the thread should be left this way.

[masherscf]

Oh cmon Aria, you thoroughly misinterpretted me.

You sounded a bit like a cutter there for a minute...

[heyseuss]

You sounded a bit like a cutter there for a minute...

don't understand.

[xibalba]

I'll only quit if I ever get a G/f and she ask me to. Otherwise I am going to keep smoking my pipe and cigars.

[masherscf]

I'll only quit if I ever get a G/f and she ask me to. Otherwise I am going to keep smoking my pipe and cigars.

Shit dude, don't ever quit anything for a chick. I don't care how nasty it is.

[rabidbadger]

Shit dude, don't ever quit anything for a chick. I don't care how nasty it is.

Even if it's quitting "not having sex"? ;)

[masherscf]

Even if it's quitting "not having sex"? ;)

Damn you badger! That sounds like a reasonable sacrifice.

[rabidbadger]

Damn you badger! That sounds like a reasonable sacrifice.

Tell that to your stork! :eek:

[masherscf]

Tell that to your stork! :eek:

He's BANNED! We've had enough of his baby-bringing ways!

[skyz]

Shit dude, don't ever quit anything for a chick. I don't care how nasty it is.

Recent research shows that second-hand smoke is the third leading cause of preventable death behind smoking and alcohol, and the cancer mortality from second-hand smoke alone exceeds the combined mortality from all regulated environmental carcinogens

so as far as don't give up anything for a chick

inflicting this one anyone whether you care for them or not is unconscionable irresponsible and incredibly selfish

guy /girl chick /guy 'relationship' has nada to do with it

[deegraww]

So after 10 years I gave up smoking on Saturday night (Birthday was Sunday so I had to quit before I turned 26). It's not easy but having the want to quit makes it better for me. Also someone told me they would never kiss me if I smoked so that was a good reason for me. But yeah Badger you should quit at least for a while so your lungs can get better lol.

[masherscf]

inflicting this one anyone whether you care for them or not is unconscionable irresponsible and incredibly selfish

One should quit smoking because it's the healthy thing to do. Do for yourself and your children.

[rabidbadger]

Heck, I live alone (besides 40,000 cats) and I don't smoke inside my own house.

[deegraww]

Heck, I live alone (besides 40,000 cats) and I don't smoke inside my own house.

I didn't either when I smoked. Strange because I never noticed the smell of smoke. Both my parents smoked so I guess I was always used to it.

[rhett803]

I personally don't smoke. But I have no problem with others who do. Their choice. If you want to light up, then go ahead.

[masherscf]

I personally don't smoke. But I have no problem with others who do. Their choice. If you want to light up, then go ahead.

I don't mind people smoking in appropriate social settings. Night clubs and tobacco bars are an obvious places to light up. I think having a smoke at a campfire is also acceptable.

I do mind people smoking around children, waiting for a bus or other public places where other people who can't walk away.

[patch]

Smoke marijuana. Its a lot better for you and if you use a vaporizer its even better for you because you don't inhale the smoke.

[acidburn]

Um, appreciate the thought. Just aint that easy... Not after 20 years.

Have you tried just cutting back a little as a start? I'm not saying it would be easy, but at least it would be a start.

Plus, smoke less and have more money for beer. ;)

[gi_josh]

Sadly, the thing that gets most people to quit smoking is a big scare. My dad quit smoking after going into the hospital for high blood pressure and other stuff, and the doctors basically told him if he didn't quit smoking he wasn't going to make it much longer. He never smoked again. That was about five years ago, and sometimes he still needs things to occupy his hands or to put in his mouth. He uses straws a lot as a substitute.