natural alternatives to antidepressants?

[rabidbadger]

So. I been on and off my puppy-uppers for a couple of years now. Pretty mild dose, but they helped immensly. Been off them for a month now due to an insurance snafu...

But wanna quit. Find a "natural" alternative that isn't quackery. I need something cause the "little things" that fugged me up when not on them are creeping back: procrastination, sleeping too much, drinking too much, poor diet, etc...

Anyone know about this stuff?

[electricalburn]

magnesium(powder form, i prefer) and lithium orotate. both of which you can find in a health food store

[phatlip12]

Hugs and not drugs.

Sorry I couldn't have been of more help, but your the man Badger!

[rabidbadger]

Thanks.

I needed that!

[scoobydiesel]

Not much help but i always do something to get my head off whatever, Drugs=Bad. So i game...Or I watch movies...Or drive around(but the last one sometimes isnt very safe....the whole being mad or sad and wanting to crush the little children i see on the side of the road...i mean...uh....)


Hugs always work too, other wise I'm sorry i cant say anything important

[masherscf]

Drugs=Bad

This is that dare bullshit. Not all drugs are bad. Some people actually need drugs not to become axe murderers. If a doctor has prescribed these drugs, I don't think they could be bad.

However, it's tough spending your life addicted to anything...even if it is good for you.

[scoobydiesel]

I know some drugs can be "good", my dad iives on them...maybe he should stop tho but meh :D

I really like the movie Prozac nation staring christina ricci

[masherscf]

I know some drugs can be "good"

I wouldn't go that far. Just that sometimes taking the drugs is better than not.

[skyz]

i don't know about depression but i do know herbs for anxiety

kava kava was used by shamanic hawaiian priests

and gives you epic dreams

[skyz]

So. I been on and off my puppy-uppers for a couple of years now. Pretty mild dose, but they helped immensly. Been off them for a month now due to an insurance snafu...

But wanna quit. Find a "natural" alternative that isn't quackery. I need something cause the "little things" that fugged me up when not on them are creeping back: procrastination, sleeping too much, drinking too much, poor diet, etc...

Anyone know about this stuff?

bach flower remedies for depression (http://bachcentre.master.com/texis/master/search/?q=depression&s=SS)

these actually work ~ i forgot about them but i used to use the bach remedies ~ they are more subtle than herbs

[rabidbadger]

bach flower remedies for depression (http://bachcentre.master.com/texis/master/search/?q=depression&s=SS)

these actually work ~ i forgot about them but i used to use the bach remedies ~ they are more subtle than herbs

Cool, that's more of what I was lookin for. Thanks. Something more "old wives tale" always works! Lookin for "real" pagan stuff. Cuase those "country folks" new their sh!t. If not they woulda died off, yes?

[rabidbadger]

Not much help but i always do something to get my head off whatever, Drugs=Bad. So i game...Or I watch movies...Or drive around
...


Hugs always work too, other wise I'm sorry i cant say anything important


That's my problem. I avoid taking care of important stuff by posting on Rev3, chat, pownce, etc. Those are my vid games, movies, etc. Distractions.

But I was good this weekend. conciously took care of stuff, bills, laundry, cleaning etc...

but that's the exception to the rule when off my meds.

[helen]

If you're off them now after being on them a while, watch out for possible withdrawl symptoms. Some of the stuff can be ****ing nasty.
The thing with herbal remedies and what not is; the more you research, the less you have the placebo effect helping you out. In the end, it really is just about feeling reassured by popping something in your mouth to help.
I've used St. John's wort for a while - you can't use it while you're on any SSRIs, but it does just as much good without some of the shitty side effects. Taking it with something like ginseng to boost your energy can be good too.

[heyseuss]

Not much help but i always do something to get my head off whatever, Drugs=Bad. So i game...Or I watch movies...Or drive around(but the last one sometimes isnt very safe....the whole being mad or sad and wanting to crush the little children i see on the side of the road...i mean...uh....)


Hugs always work too, other wise I'm sorry i cant say anything important

In my head, I imagined you driving around angry and wanting to run over little kiddies, but instead, stopping and getting out and giving them all hugs.... that's worse and funny.

[gi_josh]

the whole being mad or sad and wanting to crush the little children i see on the side of the road...i mean...uh....)


I call the kids in my neighborhood "speed bumps"....its like a pet name.

[skyz]

That's my problem. I avoid taking care of important stuff by posting on Rev3, chat, pownce, etc. Those are my vid games, movies, etc. Distractions.

But I was good this weekend. conciously took care of stuff, bills, laundry, cleaning etc...

but that's the exception to the rule when off my meds.

'life is won in inches'

[scoobydiesel]

Well Just take it easy and dont think about the bad shizzle...Its hard to do and easier to say but youve done fine so far right? Just keep it up...and them speed bumps are kinda squishie...

[tokenuser]

'life is won in inches'There is a witty reply buried in there somewhere ... but its too easy.

[heyseuss]

There is a witty reply buried in there somewhere ... but its too easy.

life is created in inches ?

[xibalba]

You never win at life everyone loses just takes some longer than others.

[tokenuser]

Serious answer time.

Many herbal teas have antidepressant qualities - some just because they relax you, which helps clear your head, and allows you to think straight ... some because they clear your head and allow you to sleep better.

BUT as a specific antidepressant, try one with St Johns Wart. You better tea emporium (OK, larger supermarkets and place like Whole Foods) will probably carry Yogi brand teas. They have a stack of them that are designed for different herbal enhancements.

Just remember - steep the tea in hot water, dont roll the herb into a blunt and smoke the stuff.

[rabidbadger]

You never win at life everyone loses just takes some longer than others.
Well, that friggen helps! :eek:

;)

[skyz]

Well, that friggen helps! :eek:

;)

don't worry ~ he is wrong ~ some people do win by becoming enlightened ~self realized ~ achieving buddha mind ~ which is the true goal of life

read some carl jung ~ 'man and his symbols' is good

from the 'diamond sutra'

Then Buddha asked Subhuti, "What do you think, Subhuti, has the Buddha arrived at the highest, most fulfilled, most awakened and enlightened mind? Does the Buddha teach any teaching?"


Subhuti replied, "As far as I have understood the lord Buddha's teachings, there is no independently existing object of mind called the highest, most fulfilled, awakened or enlightened mind. Nor is there any independently existing teaching that the Buddha teaches. Why? Because the teachings that the Buddha has realized and spoken of cannot be conceived of as separate, independent things and therefore cannot be described. The truth in them is uncontainable and inexpressible. It neither is, nor is it not. What does this mean? What this means is that Buddhas and disciples are not enlightened by a set method of teachings, but by an internally intuitive process which is spontaneous and is part of their own inner nature."



you i all are programmed to eventually achieve enlightenment

[thear]

Sex

FILL FILL FILL

[xibalba]

don't worry ~ he is wrong ~ some people do win by becoming enlightened ~self realized ~ achieving buddha mind ~ which is the true goal of life

read some carl jung ~ 'man and his symbols' is good

from the 'diamond sutra'



you i all are programmed to eventually achieve enlightenment



No I am right you die you lose. No amount of enlightenment will help you with that. I've learned to look past the enlightened bullshit and see the truth people hide from.

[yourestillmycaesar]

Laugh a lot and often. Not kidding. Find people who can make you laugh no matter what. It's how I survived high school without dying, no matter how depressed I was.

And also, healthy eating helps, but if a symptom of your depression is not eating healthy, then that's kinda hard. :D

[skyz]

I've learned to look past the enlightened bullshit and see the truth people hide from.

whatever :)

[heyseuss]

Just remember - steep the tea in hot water, dont roll the herb into a blunt and smoke the stuff.

:rolleyes:
Typical Australian putting his drugs in a bowl of hot water.

[rabidbadger]

don't worry ~ he is wrong ~ some people do win by becoming enlightened ~self realized ~ achieving buddha mind ~ which is the true goal of life...

...you i all are programmed to eventually achieve enlightenment



Actually, Been seriously talkin to a friend about buddhism. He's starting a chapter here, and has a book waiting for me.

[ariastar]

So. I been on and off my puppy-uppers for a couple of years now. Pretty mild dose, but they helped immensly. Been off them for a month now due to an insurance snafu...

But wanna quit. Find a "natural" alternative that isn't quackery. I need something cause the "little things" that fugged me up when not on them are creeping back: procrastination, sleeping too much, drinking too much, poor diet, etc...

Anyone know about this stuff?

If I knew.... I'm going into a funk right now as it is.

[skyz]

Actually, Been seriously talkin to a friend about buddhism. He's starting a chapter here, and has a book waiting for me.

actually...:)

[skyz]

If I knew.... I'm going into a funk right now as it is.

12 bar blues rx for you

[heyseuss]

12 bar blues rx for you

12 bar blues is happy. you want a dischordant dropped 7th.

[skyz]

12 bar blues is happy. you want a dischordant dropped 7th.

right a flat 7th

here is my first song i ever wrote ~ not my first composition ~ was a class assignment for 12 bar blues

dedicated to ariastar


after math


when first i saw you

thought you looked so good

when first i met you

kinda raised my mood

now i'm glad and happy

that you are gone for good


here comes a new one

says i make his day

so says the new one

that he'd like to stay

think i'll save some heartache

and send him on his way


for sure will come some others

with starlight in their eyes

so sad for all the others

they'll find a gal too wise

though they make speak the truth

. . . . she'll count it all as lies ;)

[rabidbadger]

Skyz, your words are the best natural antidepressant I know! :)

[heyseuss]

Skyz, your words are the best natural antidepressant I know! :)

go to fvcking bed

[ariastar]

right a flat 7th

here is my first song i ever wrote ~ not my first composition ~ was a class assignment for 12 bar blues

dedicated to ariastar


after math


when first i saw you

thought you looked so good

when first i met you

kinda raised my mood

now i'm glad and happy

that you are gone for good


here comes a new one

says i make his day

so says the new one

that he'd like to stay

think i'll save some heartache

and send him on his way


for sure will come some others

with starlight in their eyes

so sad for all the others

they'll find a gal too wise

though they make speak the truth

. . . . she'll count it all as lies ;)






Awwwwwwww!!! Skye's a sweetie.

[ariastar]

Badge, what I'm doing is having Nick take Emma for a few days so I can spend a few days on myself. Well, work, and then myself. Some self-centered days. Can you take some time out for just you?

[skyz]

Awwwwwwww!!! Skye's a sweetie.

:D there are those who would strongly disagree :D

[skyz]

Skyz, your words are the best natural antidepressant I know! :)

you can show up at my door

you can die on my floor

you can be flat broke

you can drink the last coke

anytime

(you're a friend of mine)

you can be a crashing bore

you can get up off the floor

you can piss me off

i won't blow you off

anytime

(you're a friend of mine)

but if you lie

you might as well die

can't spin no line

and be a friend of mine

i've got no time

for psychological crime

you can watch me fly

you can pass me

we can go for broke

on a lucky stroke

anytime

(you're a friened of mine)

you can weep your sorrow

you can shout your joy

you can be a bad girl

you can be a good boy

anytime

anytime

(you're a friend of mine) X 3

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[xibalba]

whatever :)

Half the shit I say I don't mean I just like to spit out useless nonsense. :D

[ariastar]

Half the shit I say I don't mean I just like to spit out useless nonsense. :D

And apparently you like to skip the punctuation. :)

[xibalba]

punctuation something I rarely use ask Badger he bugs me about when I talk to him on AIM which usually ends up with me not using any what so ever removing the few I do sometimes Iwillskipthespacesaswell :D

[rabidbadger]

Lol!

758695785

[ariastar]

ejumacashun anyone? :D

[xibalba]

I look at it like this if it is implied while speaking it should be implied when writing/typing as well :D

[sail191912]

A few minutes of sunshine in the morning and afternoon might give you some happy thoughts. (I know, lame, but it works for me)

[ariastar]

I look at it like this if it is implied while speaking it should be implied when writing/typing as well :D

A comma, for instance, indicated a slight pause, which you will have when speaking. Writing/type does not have voice inflections that can make written communication confusing.

[tokenuser]

A comma, for instance, indicated a slight pause, which you will have when speaking. Writing/type does not have voice inflections that can make written communication confusing.Aria - you live in California. Taking your sentence as an example, and turning it from written language to spoken language written down you would get.

Like a comma <pause> indicates a slight pause <pause, sigh> which you will have when speaking. And like writing 'n typing doesn't have <start two finger bunny ears to indicate ">voice inflections <end two finger bunny ears to indicate "> that can make written communication confusing?

Try it ... I think the meaning conveyed is - like - totally awesome?

[gi_josh]

Token, you crack me up. I especially liked the air quotes and the question mark at the end....priceless.

[gi_josh]

So, I guess punctuation is pretty important:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29921412@N00/354975371/

[skyz]

Some self-centered days

girlfriend ~ if you were as jealous and possesive of your 'self time' as you are your bf you would not be jealous of your bf and what he does with his time

and you would have the self and the relationship you want :)

[gi_josh]

girlfriend ~ if you were as jealous and possesive of your 'self time' as you are your bf you would not be jealous of your bf and what he does with his time

and you would have the self and the relationship you want :)

I don't know what it is about you, but I can't comprehend half the crap that you say. :) I don't know if it is the green font or what. Don't worry, I don't think its you, its me. ;)

[ariastar]

Aria - you live in California. Taking your sentence as an example, and turning it from written language to spoken language written down you would get.



Try it ... I think the meaning conveyed is - like - totally awesome?

LOL, that's in SoCal.

[tokenuser]

LOL, that's in SoCal. Like ... as if, you know ... its a seperate state and all?

[rabidbadger]

A few minutes of sunshine in the morning and afternoon might give you some happy thoughts. (I know, lame, but it works for me)

No, every bit helps, but I spend my afternoons on the porch, soakin up sun. Helps, no doubt, but need more.

[rabidbadger]

Man, this got off topic. still lookin for help. anyone else?

[tokenuser]

How about a nice cup of tea?

[rabidbadger]

I'll try that. Any specific kind?

[skyz]

I don't know what it is about you, but I can't comprehend half the crap that you say. :) I don't know if it is the green font or what. Don't worry, I don't think its you, its me. ;)

no it's me

a lot of people don't understand me but those who do appreciate me so it all works out :)

[tokenuser]

I'll try that. Any specific kind?Anything you feel comfortable with.

Recommend the Yogi St. Johns Wart tea ... BUT remember that half the benefit of drinking tea is the art of making tea. Use a teapot, use loose leaf tea - don't resort to dunking Liptons Tea Bags ina cup of hot water.