Avatar Season 3 [It looks like this is the end!]

[aerodash84]

Found a link from CC about live action movie. Not much, but thought I'd share it here. http://movies.ign.com/articles/894/894111p1.html

[iccanui]

Found a link from CC about live action movie. Not much, but thought I'd share it here. http://movies.ign.com/articles/894/894111p1.html

Small but important aero.


Konietzko said, "It's going really well. We love the script, and working with [M. Night Shyamalan] it's been really collaborative and he's been really respective of us and the material, and we've been able to help out on some of the artwork, and consulting. It'll be a pretty faithful adaptation of season one, that's the first movie, and hopefully there'll be two more after that."

That right there puts a lot of faith into a movie that i had no faith in.

[aerodash84]

Small but important aero.


it's been really collaborative and he's been really respective of us and the material, and we've been able to help out on some of the artwork, and consulting. It'll be a pretty faithful adaptation of season one, that's the first movie, and hopefully there'll be two more after that."

That right there puts a lot of faith into a movie that i had no faith in.

That's how I felt after I read it. If the creators were on board for it, that is a relief for me. I'd prefer them to write, but glad they're working on it. This could be his best in awhile based on the source material not being his own. I'm kind of more intrigued now that I think about the possibility of him doing something not originally his.

[bap1994]

Yeah. I don't think having another season would be so bad. I think they should show how the airbenders are going to come back cause if they don't then how can the avatar come back eventually as the next air nomad? Unless miraculously there were airbenders who survived the attacks on the temples and had just hidden for all those years which I think is unlikely. I think that the next season should be the next avatar (water) and show how he/she brings back the air nomads. They could (like mentioned) go to the spirit world to gain the wisdom. I think that that has to be the easiest way but I still think it probably would be best if aang built up the air nomads because he was trained well. (also, it's probably impossible to bring back any flting bison but I think that there could be more flying lemurs because aang just found one in the southern air temple. Yeah...that's about it.

[phunlee]

Stuff comes back as babies. Aang will have a child. Two benders have a 25% chance of having an airbender...An airbending baby. **Poof** airbenders back in existence. That baby will marry some non-bending(Muggle) Nationer and they'll have a baby, and it will be an airbender, too. It doesn't have to be, it could just carry the recessive gene. Then that one's grand-kid can be the Avatar when it's Air's turn again. It'll kind of have to be, there would probably be only a handful of air benders in these few generations.

Then, (are you still with me??).. Then, all the Air Nation Avatars from this point on are descendants of Aang, which means not only are they the Avatar, they have the EXTRA connection of a family line, which means they're pretty much unstoppable...b/c that's what family lines do, they make you more powerful, even more than a regular Avatar. Because as you're connected to all other Avatars, if you're also RELATED by blood, I mean, come on, that can only help.

This also means that when Air Nationers start hooking up, they're all kind of related. It doesn't matter after a few generations, but still. That's gonna be there, hanging over them. They probably won't bring that up in the cartoon.

That's it. That's all I got.

[hec207]

Well how about the fact that the Aang's kids will come from two benders! So of course the next kid is already halfway to being the avatar!

[iccanui]

Well how about the fact that the Aang's kids will come from two benders! So of course the next kid is already halfway to being the avatar!

His kid cant be the avatar. Aang has to be dead before his avatar spirit can be re-incarnated. You dont become the avatar, your born it.

[lavahot]

This question of reproducing an Air avatar so the cycle can repeat in a few hundred years is interesting. I believe however that there is a better answer. Aang is NOT the last airbender. There is a secret group or groups of Air Nomads living in the Earth Kingdom waiting for the world to be safe for their kind once more. Now that the Fire nation is no longer aggressive, the air nomads will reveal themselves and balance will be restored. A world without Air benders, even if Aang has a butt-load of decendants, is not a balanced world. I refuse to believe that Souzin's Genocide of the Air Nomads was total and complete. It's just very unlikely that at least some could not escape and survive. You know, it suddenly occurs to me that we have only ever seen a female Air Nomad once, and she was long dead. Hmm. How do they reproduce anyway?

[diane]

Okay, Anakin is reading over my shoulder and we both have a couple of replies here.

1) There is nothing stating that Aang can't have kids. In fact, there is no guarantee that the child will be a bender. Though it is common for benders to bender kids, there is no promise of it just like a burnette can give birth to a blonde.

2) Second, yes, there is totally a possibility of Air Benders still existing. They are by nature pacifists, so if they secluded themselves to meditate on behalf of the world makes perfect sense.

3) There is a form of air benders in essence rebuilding. When they are at the temple and there are people using hang gliders and balloons to get around, Aang even mentions this. These people are transplants but we all evolve and there is the possibility that by embracing the method and the philosophy might trigger latent genes.

4) One thing I always got from this show is that the powers are within them to choose to cultivate or not. Yes, there is only one Avatar, but no one ever really answers the question of why no one has two different powers. So you can water bend, blood bend, and heal? Earth bend, Sand bend and Metal bend? Yes these are similar traits in that aspect, but what would happen in Katara and Toff went and danced the dance with the dragons? Would they be eaten? Or would they realize the same truths that Aang and Zuko realized? In this world people had to learn these traits. Fire benders from the dragons, Earth from Badgers, etc. And if they learned air bending from Apa, there is still Apa to teach. I have never believed that Aang was truly the last air bender forever, just the last for right now.

[bobwise]

I may be grasping at threads here, but do we know for 100% certain that Sokka and Katara's mother is dead? They just kept saying she was "gone".

And Zuko is still looking for his mother too. I think there is definitely enough material for another season, or at least a movie.

[diane]

I may be grasping at threads here, but do we know for 100% certain that Sokka and Katara's mother is dead? They just kept saying she was "gone".

And Zuko is still looking for his mother too. I think there is definitely enough material for another season, or at least a movie.

Funny, I said the same thing to Anakin. I always wondered if there might be a possibility that they are the same person. Yes, they hint at her being dead. And when Katara confronts the person he does say that he "isn't taking any prisoners today" but it does leave it open.

I can't wait until the movie.

[heyseuss]

My progress through the Buffyverse:
Completed:
Buffy TV Show Season 1
Pending:
Buffy TV Show Season (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7), Angel TV Show (Season 1, 2, 3, 4, 5), Buffy Season 8 Comic, Angel: After the Fall, Spike: After the Fall, Fray comics, Tales of the Slayer comics, Tales of the Vampire comics

THAT is hilarious.

That's 1 more season than I've seen. If I ever saw a commercial for Buffy, I changed the channel. Loved the original movie though.

[aerodash84]

Funny, I said the same thing to Anakin. I always wondered if there might be a possibility that they are the same person. Yes, they hint at her being dead. And when Katara confronts the person he does say that he "isn't taking any prisoners today" but it does leave it open.

I can't wait until the movie.

I was going to say from the horrific reaction they had when entering back into the house made me believe she had died. That is my reasoning behind why they never are looking for their mother.

[darthender]

This question of reproducing an Air avatar so the cycle can repeat in a few hundred years is interesting. I believe however that there is a better answer. Aang is NOT the last airbender. There is a secret group or groups of Air Nomads living in the Earth Kingdom waiting for the world to be safe for their kind once more.I was hoping for this to be the case also. Searching for lost Airbenders would make THE perfect main plotline for a Book 4: Air. Only instead of in the Earth Kingdom, I was thinking of some island off the edge of the world map(maybe theres even a "new world" on the other side of the world with Sound/Light/Thoughtbenders.

I could almost see a scene where Aang is in someplace like the desert library, looking at stuff, and he sees a globe and he spins it around and there's all this stuff on the opposite side thats not on the flat maps of the "world". And then he's all "what's this island way over here?" "Oh that? That's the Farthest Air Temple."

[miss_vigilante]

They surely left it open for another season. I really hope there is one.

[darthender]

I may be grasping at threads here, but do we know for 100% certain that Sokka and Katara's mother is dead? They just kept saying she was "gone".I think that's just one of those things where you have to remember its still a show for kids. And they always go WAY out of their way to say things like "kill" or "die", especially when talking about good characters.

Like in the beginning of season 3, when Aang was talking about how he "really was gone" and how Kitara "brought him back" he was talking about how he died.

It's just one of those things. You can't be "certain" Kitara's mom is dead if you don't see her die, but conversely, there's no way in hell they're going to show their mom being burned to death just to assure the audience that she's dead.

I feel safe in the belief that she's dead.

[bobwise]

I think that's just one of those things where you have to remember its still a show for kids. And they always go WAY out of their way to say things like "kill" or "die", especially when talking about good characters.

And yet they show Sokka half naked with a rose in his mouth expecting a midnight rendezvous with his lady friend.

[dark_shroud]

And yet they show Sokka half naked with a rose in his mouth expecting a midnight rendezvous with his lady friend.

No, he still had his closes on minus shoes.

[bobwise]

No, he still had his closes on minus shoes.

Ok I guess he did, but there's still some significant hinting.

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m178/knightwing99/SokkaRose.jpg

[masherscf]

And yet they show Sokka half naked with a rose in his mouth expecting a midnight rendezvous with his lady friend.

I found this a little suggestive.

[enemybrick]

I can't help but feel like the finale was rushed. When Sokka's moon g/f died, I feel like that battle was built up more than the end of the series was, but other than that, I loved it. Im glad the series is over, I think another season would have left it less memorable.
However, this is definately the kind of show that I would love to eventually see like, a special that shows whats going on 20 years from now, or 40 years from the end of season 3. I dont like open-endedness.

[darthender]

Ok I guess he did, but there's still some significant hinting.That's exactly my point. That's all it is, hinting. Kid's get the gist, but not the details.

Same with Kitara's mother. They know she'd dead. They may not nessecarily get that she was probably burned alive by a fire bender. Or barring that...stabbed.

[primeone]

That's exactly my point. That's all it is, hinting. Kid's get the gist, but not the details.

Same with Kitara's mother. They know she'd dead. They may not nessecarily get that she was probably burned alive by a fire bender. Or barring that...stabbed.

They Ember Island players put the character deaths into context by saying as a joke hey i think actor jet just died or hey Combustion man just died. The abstraction from the actual act of killing by rolling it into a play to make sure the thick or young get it was very Shakespearian Hamlet like in my mind.

I love stories with plays inside of plays telling the same story, Russian nesting doll like.

[darthender]

That reminds me. I wonder why we never saw those two members of Jet's gang again. We saw Pisqueak and The Duke, but never Longshot and....I forget the girls name.

[inertianinja]

i'm a little disappointed by the lack of a 4th season.

something feels wrong about there being no "Air" book...especially by the tone of the show itself. what happened? did they lose funding? get cancelled?

[cryonix]

Dot know if this has been seen by anyone here. but I saw this a while back now. and with 20 some odd pages on this thread it may have already been posted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7zgL3H8boM

All I can say is... Damn them.

[darthender]

lqtm Scorpius.

[kitfisto1]

Very well put. The show grew up. Thats what a good show does. I feel kinda sad for the people who just wrote this off as Americans trying to make an anime. But i dont think it was that (well maybe). Im actually kinda tired of anime. Maybe i just havent sat down and given any a try(got suggestions), but right now all the animes are strating to blend together. And this show was a very nice speed bumb in the super highway of anime. I was pulled in by the Kung Fu but stayed for Toph

[lavahot]

Very well put. The show grew up. Thats what a good show does. I feel kinda sad for the people who just wrote this off as Americans trying to make an anime. But i dont think it was that (well maybe). Im actually kinda tired of anime. Maybe i just havent sat down and given any a try(got suggestions), but right now all the animes are strating to blend together. And this show was a very nice speed bumb in the super highway of anime. I was pulled in by the Kung Fu but stayed for Toph

OOH MMM GEE! I couldn't agree more! Especially that last sentence.

[tamtamg]

my un-questioning love of avatar has been shattered. I was doing my pre-bed stumbling on teh internetz when stumble upon brought me to this image.

I put this up there with the time some one pointed out to me that the clouds and the bushes in Mario Bros. were the same thing.

click here to see it (http://ft.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/4e/4e51b4ae209cda57af5175c3de004892daa6ec83.jpg)

Don't get me wrong, I still love the show, but the magic is officially gone.

[aerodash84]

my un-questioning love of avatar has been shattered. I was doing my pre-bed stumbling on teh internetz when stumble upon brought me to this image.

I put this up there with the time some one pointed out to me that the clouds and the bushes in Mario Bros. were the same thing.

click here to see it (http://ft.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/4e/4e51b4ae209cda57af5175c3de004892daa6ec83.jpg)

Don't get me wrong, I still love the show, but the magic is officially gone.

Then I would feel that way about pretty much anything ever made. Star Wars the original trilogy for example. It's a pretty standard story type, but it's the story along the way that sets it apart. Pokemon fails in the fact that there is no end. The show continues for the fact that they need to push their products. So if you feel that way about Avatar then you should look back at other stories you may enjoy. Plots and themes get recycled a lot, but some pull it off greatly like Avatar :D

[ashlad]

sorry i didnt read anything above to avoid spoilers :P

ehm i kinda started watching this and loving it so far.

I was just wondering if anyone know if it's possible to buy all 3 seasons on DVD somewhere? Like a boxed set or something like that

Found it on iTunes but was like $30 for every season which seemed a little expensive :)

[aerodash84]

sorry i didnt read anything above to avoid spoilers :P

ehm i kinda started watching this and loving it so far.

I was just wondering if anyone know if it's possible to buy all 3 seasons on DVD somewhere? Like a boxed set or something like that

Found it on iTunes but was like $30 for every season which seemed a little expensive :)

Season 3 will be on box set in September and I think will be around $40 to $50 like the other sets unless you find a deal somewhere. I bought it on iTunes right when I finished 1 & 2 and 3 wasn't on DVD yet. I'll probably get the 3rd boxset too because I like owning full sets.

[rokov]

my un-questioning love of avatar has been shattered. I was doing my pre-bed stumbling on teh internetz when stumble upon brought me to this image.

I put this up there with the time some one pointed out to me that the clouds and the bushes in Mario Bros. were the same thing.

click here to see it (http://ft.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/4e/4e51b4ae209cda57af5175c3de004892daa6ec83.jpg)

Don't get me wrong, I still love the show, but the magic is officially gone.

Like almost every genre story since Tolkien, they're both based on the hero's journey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monomyth).

[darthender]

My complete book 3 came in this week. Was listening to the commentaries and learned a couple interesting things.

Like how they had planned it for 3 seasons all along. And there was never any plan for an Air book(like someone else said, the books are named for the elements he's learning).

I also liked one little off the cuff comment where one of the writers said "...well maybe thats because the Avatar world is flat."

And the other guy says, "Or is it?..."

[dignan17]

Yeah, they said very early on that it would only be three seasons, which I really appreciate. As much as I absolutely adore Avatar, there are too many American TV series that try to stretch out a show for much too long. I respect a show that has a planned story arc that doesn't overstay its welcome.

[heyseuss]

My complete book 3 came in this week. Was listening to the commentaries and learned a couple interesting things.

Like how they had planned it for 3 seasons all along. And there was never any plan for an Air book(like someone else said, the books are named for the elements he's learning).

I thought most people knew this already. I was suprised to see all the dopey's calling out for an 'air' book.

[rokov]

My complete book 3 came in this week. Was listening to the commentaries and learned a couple interesting things.

Like how they had planned it for 3 seasons all along. And there was never any plan for an Air book(like someone else said, the books are named for the elements he's learning).

I also liked one little off the cuff comment where one of the writers said "...well maybe thats because the Avatar world is flat."

And the other guy says, "Or is it?..."

When the say that, however, they also suggest that, even though book 3 was the end of Aang's story, it wasn't necessarily the end of the Avatar universe and that they might do more with it. I can't remember the specific episode, I'll have to listen again.

[darthender]

I remember that. I think they said something about "prequel" and about the time before the Avatars. I think they were talking about that during the Lion Turtle scene.

So...maybe a series about the first Avatar ever.

I guess I can understand them not doing anything else with Aang because, really, they wrote themselves into a corner. Cause all the airbenders are still dead and...you know...theres no real way for him to restore the "balance".


Now I'm kinda pissed actually.

[rokov]

II guess I can understand them not doing anything else with Aang because, really, they wrote themselves into a corner. Cause all the airbenders are still dead and...you know...theres no real way for him to restore the "balance".


Now I'm kinda pissed actually.

That depends on how bending is passed on. I suppose it's possible for Aang and Katara to eventually repopulate the airbenders. Maybe they'll do a sequel many many generations later. lol

[heyseuss]

I guess I can understand them not doing anything else with Aang because, really, they wrote themselves into a corner. Cause all the airbenders are still dead and...you know...theres no real way for him to restore the "balance".

The next series could be about Katara and Aang and Sokka and Toph running a bending school.

What sucks is, that we have 2 years before a movie, and because of Shamylan, we're not even able to feel comfortable in the meantime that it's going to be good.

[rokov]

The next series could be about Katara and Aang and Sokka and Toph running a bending school.

What sucks is, that we have 2 years before a movie, and because of Shamylan, we're not even able to feel comfortable in the meantime that it's going to be good.

I was worried about Shyamalan at first because each book doesn't end with a giant twist, but when I found out that his first draft of the book 1 script was about 6 hours long because he wanted to include everything I gained a little more confidence in him. From what he's said, he's a huge fan of the series so I think/hope he'll do it justice.

[heyseuss]

I was worried about Shyamalan at first because each book doesn't end with a giant twist, but when I found out that his first draft of the book 1 script was about 6 hours long because he wanted to include everything I gained a little more confidence in him. From what he's said, he's a huge fan of the series so I think/hope he'll do it justice.

Mmm, him being a huge fan isn't enough to quell me. I might love it because of how much I like the original material, but that just might make me overlook how he messes it up. I know he's a huge fan, buuuuttt.. ..

[aerodash84]

Mmm, him being a huge fan isn't enough to quell me. I might love it because of how much I like the original material, but that just might make me overlook how he messes it up. I know he's a huge fan, buuuuttt.. ..

In the book 2 interview, it sounded like he was working closely with the creators on the script. So it sounds like there is going to be a lot of collaboration.

[darthender]

The problem is, you can be pretty sure that they aren't gonna be working on any new Avatar cartoons until after the movies are all done, so that's gonna be like 5 years at least with no new Avatar even if they did want to do something.

[heyseuss]

The problem is, you can be pretty sure that they aren't gonna be working on any new Avatar cartoons until after the movies are all done,

Why so sure ?

[darthender]

Cause they told me so.