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iccanui
09-21-2007, 12:33 AM
Ok, you want totally rad ? Watch this. In fact i would greatly suggest maybe watching it and if you like it, STOP and go back to season one and start from there and work your way back. This is one of the most amazing animated series i have ever watched personally and im sure not everyone will love it, its good enough to put out there.

http://www.angelace.com/animeace/avatarfire.jpg


Be one with the Radness.

atom12
09-21-2007, 01:43 AM
I am very much looking forward to this.

crater
09-21-2007, 01:52 AM
I was totally just thinking last night, "When the hell is Avatar coming back?"

You sir, have made my day.

theuberdork
09-21-2007, 02:49 AM
I can't wait either, if it wasn't for the TRS crew I may have never knew this show existed. I owe them a debt of gratitude!

diane
09-21-2007, 08:24 AM
They have been having a marathon of Avatar on. The kid and I have been very busy re-watching the episodes before season 3 starts. Get the popcorn ready!

salty
09-21-2007, 09:15 AM
I'm deeply saddened that I will be at work when this airs.

Every day.

Like everything else.

Oh well. I'll just have to continue my media blackout and just... acquire... it after it's completed.

iccanui
09-21-2007, 11:26 AM
I'm deeply saddened that I will be at work when this airs.

Every day.

Like everything else.

Oh well. I'll just have to continue my media blackout and just... acquire... it after it's completed.

Yar matey, that indeed be sad. But me think if ya get your sea legs and be leaving that pristine port yee be in, there be ways around such barriers.

Yar.....

patio
09-21-2007, 04:10 PM
Yea! I can't wait for this! But I see it listed for 7:30pm (Central).

I think someone could jump on, but you would definitely get more out of it if you go back to the beginning.

heyseuss
09-21-2007, 04:30 PM
I'm up to episode 12. I have to say I think the plot/writing is far better than the animation. I was expecting better animation, it's not bad per se, just thought it would be better. The story is great though.

masherscf
09-21-2007, 05:23 PM
Yep, the new episodes start at 8:30pm eastern.

http://www.nick.com/shows/avatar/index.jhtml

iccanui
09-21-2007, 05:57 PM
my bad on the time. Sorry guys

darthender
09-22-2007, 01:59 AM
It was okay.

Mostly exposition though about what happened between seasons.

gillsterhill
09-22-2007, 02:06 AM
THE NEW EPISODE WAS AWESOME

This season is going to be amazing

lnknpk04
09-22-2007, 02:37 AM
I watched all the episodes one right after the other. I'm not used to having to wait a week :-\. The new episode was good, but too short! Wish they would have done ep 1 + 2 for the premier.

rroethel
09-22-2007, 02:43 AM
i ****ing missed it im so pissed

wizmaster
09-22-2007, 02:57 AM
i ****ing missed it im so pissed

That sucks.

It was pretty awesome. An avatar with a fro, nuff said. Lol, although they explained what happened after the last episode, they also did some forshadowing. The preview for the next episode was also pretty cool.

I can't wait. Well, I can but I don't want to.

jekul
09-22-2007, 05:41 AM
Omg! I was sitting at my computer and thinking, "it is friday the 21st. why does this date mean something... ... ...Oh God No!!!"

So yeah I missed it and in about 22m it will be downloaded. Not too many people on the torrent i found at mininova

cbotwell
09-22-2007, 04:44 PM
Yeah, new episode was definitely good. Wonder if they will mention it on next week's TRS. I was kinda surprised they didn't say anything about it on the last TRS, maybe the specifics hadn't been announced yet.

kiey
09-22-2007, 10:16 PM
I'm am really impressed with this episode, it did such a good job of explaining whats happened since the end of last season, and yet also laying the ground work for all the stuff that will happen this season.

atom12
09-22-2007, 11:58 PM
I'm am really impressed with this episode, it did such a good job of explaining whats happened since the end of last season, and yet also laying the ground work for all the stuff that will happen this season.

It was, however I did have to pause a lot to explain other plot lines to my girflfriend as she has not seen the show before. Good news, though she is hooked!

I really want to know what happen to Uncle Hiro.....

Anyone else think Zuko "knew" the Avatar would survive the fight? Leaving him for dead, giving the Avatar the perfect cover to train? Think Hiro got thru to him more than we know yet.

masherscf
09-23-2007, 01:25 AM
It was, however I did have to pause a lot to explain other plot lines to my girflfriend as she has not seen the show before. Good news, though she is hooked!

My wife and I spent the last three weeks of August watching netflixed DVDs of the earlier seasons in order to be ready.

johnyc252
09-23-2007, 04:34 AM
Hell yeah, I sort of stumbled upon Avatar one night when I was bored enough to watch cartoons lol. It really is pretty freaking rad.

johnyc252
09-23-2007, 05:06 AM
Well here's the first episode if you missed it (like me) http://www.veoh.com/videos/v1186747E72rmasQ?searchId=7600773161722385341&rank=10. Enjoy.

fieryfrog
09-23-2007, 05:48 AM
Anyone else think Zuko "knew" the Avatar would survive the fight? Leaving him for dead, giving the Avatar the perfect cover to train? Think Hiro got thru to him more than we know yet.

do you remember the finally of season 2. when Zuko and Katara had their little "Moment"...and she talked about her "Water from the North"....

He knew....

MaxTheSilent
09-23-2007, 05:57 AM
I loved the episode.

It was a little more low-key than most were probably expecting, but I think it perfectly caught us up with what happened after Ba Sing Se fell.

This series is going to re-define 'epic'.

darthender
09-23-2007, 06:16 AM
do you remember the finally of season 2. when Zuko and Katara had their little "Moment"...and she talked about her "Water from the North"....

He knew....I don't think he "knows" anything. I think he suspects. I mean, Kitara just basically said "I have some magic healing water, it might cure your scar." Which is a far cry from "I have magic healing water that will bring a guy back from the dead." because Aang was basically dead.

And I definitely don't think he was allowing the Avatar to escape either. If he was gonna do that, why would he have helped defeat him in the first place?

I think he might feel guilty now, after the fact. But at the time? No.

the-real-firepants
09-26-2007, 01:56 AM
So who has seen the newest episode what what did you all think? Seems like Aang has grown a bit between seasons, he looks a bit taller (or maybe its just the hair) . Overall its a good setup for the new season, can't wait for the next episode.


On another note I have to thank the TRS guys for turning me on this show, best cartoon since the Clone Wars.

wizmaster
09-26-2007, 03:33 AM
There's another thread on this (two actually) but most people on this forum agree that this season will be pure win.

MaxTheSilent
09-27-2007, 10:30 PM
Due to some kind of technical snafu episode 2 has appeared online about 2 days before airing.

It's hilarious.

darthender
09-29-2007, 08:22 PM
Episode 2.

I'm definitely glad for this episode. After the first episode I was worried this show had lost its sense of humor.

Now I have no such worries.

patio
10-01-2007, 04:02 AM
Episode 2.


ROCKED!!!!!

The first Ep. was definitely a bridging episode. THis one was a lot more fun!

fattymatty
10-01-2007, 06:08 AM
ROCKED!!!!!

The first Ep. was definitely a bridging episode. THis one was a lot more fun!


agreed. the second episode was awesome. the humor was great and the dancing was very cool.

professio
10-01-2007, 06:19 AM
the first and second episodes were totally freaken awesome! :cool:

My only hope is that they don't wait TOO long to start getting into more serious mode and Aang will hopefully soon begin his firebending training.

the-real-firepants
10-05-2007, 12:39 AM
Ok, so I really love this show, but I already know how it is going to end. Zuko's secret identity (the monkey mask) helps his Uncle escape, who then hooks up with Aang. He then trains Aang to firebend. With the help of Zuko, Aang manages to take out the Firelord, Zuko defeats Azula, and Zuko becomes the new Firelord. Somewhere in there they find a previously unknown trible of Airbenders, and uncle Iroh dies (for real this time).

Still, I can't wait to watch it all unfold.

drghoo
10-05-2007, 06:58 PM
Ok, so I really love this show, but I already know how it is going to end. Zuko's secret identity (the monkey mask) helps his Uncle escape, who then hooks up with Aang. He then trains Aang to firebend. With the help of Zuko, Aang manages to take out the Firelord, Zuko defeats Azula, and Zuko becomes the new Firelord. Somewhere in there they find a previously unknown trible of Airbenders, and uncle Iroh dies (for real this time).

Still, I can't wait to watch it all unfold.

Ok, stop your speculating Lies!! I'm not listening....la,la,la,la,la....just joshing you. My favorite Sokka incarnation so far-Weng Fire & also Saffire Fire! Ha, Classic! This has jumped now officially as one of my favorite shows if not "the" favorite. Lost has got a battle on it's hands for my heart and remote! Dance Dance Aang-a-lution, FTW!

darthender
10-13-2007, 10:32 AM
Oh man, last nights episode was the first really epic episode of this season.



At first I was a little annoyed because it seemed they were making Saka a sword master in one day, and then a swordsmith in a second day. But then I saw the guy did most of the work on the sword and Saka still isn't particularly awsome with the sword.


But who cares because black meteorite sword for Saka!


And Iroh's getting buff!! Holy shit! Some shits gonna go down!

MaxTheSilent
10-13-2007, 11:22 AM
Great episode, although a touch too slapstick-y. But what else can you expect from a Sokka-centric episode.

And Iroh FTW!! Irohbics, anyone?

Hopefully soon we'll catch up with Zuko, Azula and the girls.

patio
10-13-2007, 12:11 PM
No, no, no,no, no!!!!!

My cable box failed to turn on again, so all I got for a recording is blackness. THat wasn't all chapter 4 was, was it? Just blackness, blackness, blackness? Because that's how I feel now that I've missed 2 episodes in a row and stupid, stupid, stupid Nickelodean won't repeat the show. Like, ever. As far as I can tell.

[gnashes teeth and howls]

This really sucks, man. I guess I have to buy it on itunes or something. crap.

darthender
10-14-2007, 02:11 PM
Yeah, its too bad torrents don't exist.



Wait...

halfhandedcloud
10-14-2007, 04:44 PM
No, no, no,no, no!!!!!

My cable box failed to turn on again, so all I got for a recording is blackness. THat wasn't all chapter 4 was, was it? Just blackness, blackness, blackness? Because that's how I feel now that I've missed 2 episodes in a row and stupid, stupid, stupid Nickelodean won't repeat the show. Like, ever. As far as I can tell.

[gnashes teeth and howls]

This really sucks, man. I guess I have to buy it on itunes or something. crap.
Yeah for some reason Nick doesn’t realize how large the avatar fandom is so they stopped replaying there episodes (though they usually replay around 12 on Saturday and Sunday but that is it) and if you miss an episode you can check youtube, veoh, and (god forbid) turbonick, you can usually find at lest one and it takes nick like a week to find and take them down.

patio
10-15-2007, 02:24 AM
Yeah, its too bad torrents don't exist.



Wait...

yeah, that would really be great...




If I had any idea what that is.

;)

And yes, Nick used to replay the episodes on Saturday morning (11am CT) but they stopped doing that last weekend, coincidentally at the same time that my cable box stopped turning on as scheduled...

There's only one explanation. Nick has been taken over by the Fire Nation.

wizmaster
10-15-2007, 03:07 AM
Watching Iroh makes me want to start exercising. He's as old as dirt and he's buff. Man, this may be the last season but it's got me waiting for each episode even though it's really just waiting for the time to strike.

patio
10-15-2007, 03:09 AM
OMG, I just limewired it and it was amazing (and please Nick don't worry, I will be buying this when it comes out on DVD anyway, so your evil plan was for naught).

Truly epic. Two new secret weapons, plus a buff iroh! This is exciting. 6 more weeks of new episodes. woo-hoo!

darthender
10-15-2007, 04:50 AM
I'm not sure why everyone thinks this is going to be the last season.

I mean, the whole season seems to be building up to the eclipse, but there's no way thats going to be the end of the series. Just purely from a storytelling standpoint. If Aang defeats the Fire Lord when he's got no firebending powers, thats what's called "anticlimactic". And ending the series on the eclipse negates the comet as a plot point entirely.

Plus the thing is only 8 minutes long. How are you gonna defeat a COUNTRY in 8 minutes.

I expect season 3 will end with the eclipse and then Book 4: Air to go until just before or until Souza's Comet.

MaxTheSilent
10-15-2007, 06:13 AM
I'm not sure why everyone thinks this is going to be the last season.

Maybe because the creators have stated it many, many times.

wizmaster
10-15-2007, 08:08 AM
I'm not sure why everyone thinks this is going to be the last season.

I mean, the whole season seems to be building up to the eclipse, but there's no way thats going to be the end of the series. Just purely from a storytelling standpoint. If Aang defeats the Fire Lord when he's got no firebending powers, thats what's called "anticlimactic". And ending the series on the eclipse negates the comet as a plot point entirely.

Plus the thing is only 8 minutes long. How are you gonna defeat a COUNTRY in 8 minutes.

I expect season 3 will end with the eclipse and then Book 4: Air to go until just before or until Souza's Comet.

1) See above.
2) They will have more seasons but it will be a different arc/story.
3) Aang can firebend, just not very well.
4) They only need to kill the Fire Lord (and Azula, Zuko not really) so 8 minutes is enough for an assassination (that's essentially what they are planning).
5) The story revolve around him having to do this without all his training so it wouldn't be "anti-climactic". He only mastered Air (Water maybe but not Earth yet).
6) Air would make no since since there are no more Air Nomads. I think they were going for the Nations instead of all the elements.

Regardless, I'll probably enjoy whatever else they do afterwards with this universe.

batwang
10-16-2007, 04:20 PM
Watching Iroh makes me want to start exercising. He's as old as dirt and he's buff. Man, this may be the last season but it's got me waiting for each episode even though it's really just waiting for the time to strike.

Believe me, when you're stuck in a metal box with nothing to do, exercise is very nearly the best thing you can do to stay sane. It even works for the old guys! You look so much better to the ladies when you get out. :D

Iroh's got to be in shape for the escape (via the White Lotus,) Aang's fire-bending training (of which I have no doubt he'll be a part. Lightning-deflection anyone?) and final confrontation of the Fire Lord. Is anybody else sad at the very obvious lack of dialog for him? Since Mako's passing I worry that the depth of feeling that makes Iroh such a compelling character won't be there. He is by far my favorite of the series and I'd hate to see him be a mute plot device for the rest of the series.

wizmaster
10-16-2007, 10:00 PM
Believe me, when you're stuck in a metal box with nothing to do, exercise is very nearly the best thing you can do to stay sane. It even works for the old guys! You look so much better to the ladies when you get out. :D

Iroh's got to be in shape for the escape (via the White Lotus,) Aang's fire-bending training (of which I have no doubt he'll be a part. Lightning-deflection anyone?) and final confrontation of the Fire Lord. Is anybody else sad at the very obvious lack of dialog for him? Since Mako's passing I worry that the depth of feeling that makes Iroh such a compelling character won't be there. He is by far my favorite of the series and I'd hate to see him be a mute plot device for the rest of the series.

I doubt it. He has no one to talk too (he's acting senile for the people that are around him). I would also like him to part some wisdom but it doesn't make since now. Right now he's just bulking up and training. Talking to himself is stupid and if he talks out loud the guard will hear him (if he can hear the claps, he can hear his voice). I say wait till he comes out in full force and he parts advice while he parts body limbs.

comradecloud
10-17-2007, 12:13 AM
I'm not sure why everyone thinks this is going to be the last season.

I mean, the whole season seems to be building up to the eclipse, but there's no way thats going to be the end of the series. Just purely from a storytelling standpoint. If Aang defeats the Fire Lord when he's got no firebending powers, thats what's called "anticlimactic". And ending the series on the eclipse negates the comet as a plot point entirely.

Plus the thing is only 8 minutes long. How are you gonna defeat a COUNTRY in 8 minutes.

I expect season 3 will end with the eclipse and then Book 4: Air to go until just before or until Souza's Comet.

The eclipse happens (or they lead us to believe it happens) in ether episode 10 or 11.

comradecloud
10-17-2007, 12:15 AM
Maybe because the creators have stated it many, many times.I've heard there’s 3 more seasons coming but with different plot and characters.

kahunablair
10-17-2007, 01:07 AM
Iroh is going to be the one to train Aang how to control his Fire Bending. Think about it. When he breaks out, he's going to want to end the "Evil" regime of the Fire Nation.
When he comes along Aang and everyone else, Sokka will probably give him the White Lotus chip and awaaaaay we go.

Aang gets his training. The group gets a Fire Bender (completing the Water, Air, Earth motif). The Tile becomes important. Zuko won't fight his Uncle a second time (or he will and hurts him, which leads to him joining the good guys).

darthender
10-17-2007, 04:39 AM
4) They only need to kill the Fire Lord (and Azula, Zuko not really) so 8 minutes is enough for an assassination (that's essentially what they are planning).
5) The story revolve around him having to do this without all his training so it wouldn't be "anti-climactic". He only mastered Air (Water maybe but not Earth yet).
5. The only problem with point 5 is that that's the plan is from the people around him. All the spirits and his past lives are pretty much telling him that taking all these short cuts isn't going to work. Avatar Roku has told him he has to master all 4 elements to defeat the fire lord.

I mean, sure, it makes sense from a realism standpoint, but from a storytelling standpoint, having Aang taking a shortcut and killing the firelord when he's got no powers? I don't care how terrible Aang is at fire and earth bending, fighting the Fire Lord with NO powers, its the definition of "anti-climactic".


But, like was stated above, if the creators said this is the last season of this story arc, well, that kinda kills speculation. But if the Eclipse is happening in episodes 10-11, then that pretty much guarantees their plan is gonna fail.

wizmaster
10-17-2007, 07:58 AM
5. The only problem with point 5 is that that's the plan is from the people around him. All the spirits and his past lives are pretty much telling him that taking all these short cuts isn't going to work. Avatar Roku has told him he has to master all 4 elements to defeat the fire lord.

I mean, sure, it makes sense from a realism standpoint, but from a storytelling standpoint, having Aang taking a shortcut and killing the firelord when he's got no powers? I don't care how terrible Aang is at fire and earth bending, fighting the Fire Lord with NO powers, its the definition of "anti-climactic".


But, like was stated above, if the creators said this is the last season of this story arc, well, that kinda kills speculation. But if the Eclipse is happening in episodes 10-11, then that pretty much guarantees their plan is gonna fail.

Yea, I caught that. Implied spoiler. Of course, I never actually believed it was going to work in the first place since even with the Fire Lord gone the comet would still power up the army (plus Azula would easily continue what's left of the takeover).

I'm just going to wait for the story to play out instead of predicting.

gojira
10-22-2007, 05:24 PM
I'm glad the quality of this show has kept up. I watch the show in chunks since I don't have satellite/cable. I have my sister save them on her DVR and I watch them every couple of weeks. But I'm caught up to the most recent one, and they've all been pretty strong episodes.

darthender
10-22-2007, 05:32 PM
This last one...wierd.

Frustrating too because what Aang was doing was 10x more interesting than what Zuko was doing but Aang's story only got like 5 minutes of screentime.

wizmaster
10-22-2007, 05:35 PM
This last one...wierd.

Frustrating too because what Aang was doing was 10x more interesting than what Zuko was doing but Aang's story only got like 5 minutes of screentime.

All these episodes are foreshadowing. 100% foreshadowing. This will probably have more meaning (well, Zuko's moral dilemma) later on rather then now. I found it rather hilarious (Azula's "confession" and destroying the house).

Also, did anyone notice that Aang knew who his attacker was from the tattoo? I wish they explained that part more because I have a feeling he knew who he was fighting (I'm assuming a clan/guild/cult/family because that guy couldn't have been alive all this time).

primeone
11-23-2007, 07:36 AM
Season Three Finale: Also revealed was that the Avatar season three (and show) finale will be comprised of episodes 318, 319, 320 and 321. No other information on episode titles or broadcast dates was available.

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Am I the only one who thinks the show should go on for just one more season? That season being the Air Book and thus have the Gaang drop it down in the spirit world and start to rebuild the air nomads? I would love for it to be the season that would just be like final final true end. I mean you could make a two hour movie out of it for pete sake thats all.

Its seems poetic to have 4 seasons of the show for 4 nations for 4 times of the year. Winter, Spring, Summer, Fall.

Winter = Water, for the snow and ice, birth and death are on two sides of the same coin here.
Spring = Earth; for this is the time the earth is tilled and ready for planting
Summer = Fire; The hottest time of the year, it can be dangerous to some. Deadly to others.
Fall = Wind; The change in the wind brings in the change of a seasons and whips clean all of what has transgressed in hotter months before. It also is time where seeds planted in the past are brought to fruition and people prepare for the cycle to start again.

Well i know that each season of the show goes to each element Aang leared and takes place in their respective time of year. Season one being the water book and had the winter solstice. earth book being spring. and Fire book taking place in the summer with the arrival of Sozin's comet. But what if the 4th season is the season where he teaches airbending he becomes the teacher and its the season where the student becomes the master. And you can introduce characters for "Spin offs" I have heard talked about.

If anything the Air book could span the rest of Aang's life. Like first 3 episodes would be he is a teenager like mid to late teens building back up the air nomads and getting students. Then the next one is dealing with skirmishes with in the fire nation of a fraction groups who still feel they are superior. The next ones could be humorous ones that show everyone that were running jokes in the last seasons, "Son of Cabbage Vendor" anyone?. I would love to see a multipart final episode where Aang is on his death bed and then just telling his final battle dealing with him finally destroying Koh the face stealer and then show the birth of the next avatar at the end of it. I think it would be a huge lesson to teach kids about life coming to an end. Nothing amazing with HUGE 3 season plot arc just a final farewell season where they can show the changes in people as they aged and be more episodic per say.

darthender
11-23-2007, 10:21 AM
I kinda thought the Day of Black Sun episodes should have been the end of Book 3. And then Book 4 should have been whatever is coming up between now and the end of the season.

royall
11-23-2007, 05:34 PM
All of what you just said will BE in the finale. The birth of the next avatar will probably start an entire new show.

primeone
11-23-2007, 08:45 PM
All of what you just said will BE in the finale. The birth of the next avatar will probably start an entire new show.

I demand said source for your info good sir or i will have to challange you to a round of Fist-to-cuffs.

jasonb
11-24-2007, 12:32 AM
Wow Fist-to-cuffs?? thats old school man. Besides if you really think about it the show does cover the nations.

Book 1 was the oppression of the Water Nation and their struggle to survive

Book 2 showed us what is really the only nation left that can put up an offensive agains the fire nation. Sadly I think arrogance combined with a corrupt government, in form of the Di Lei, sabotaged them before they started.

Book 3 will show how through dedication and humility that the world can become balanced again.

The reason there wont be a season 4 is simple......there is no more air nation. If the next Avatar is born and Aang dies so dies the Avatar. There will be no 4th nation for the spirit of the Avatar to be born back into. Which may be his ultimate price to pay for being Avatar. The end of his line; Avatar Roku has mentioned it 100 times by now that there is a progression, a change for all season, and cycle that must be gone through. Aang is ultimatly, and unexpectanly, the begging of the end of the Avatar. If i have my rebirth cycle right the next Avatar will be an Earth bender, then water, then fire, and then.......nothing.

yawnstretch
11-24-2007, 12:12 PM
Had never heard of avatar b4 trs so when i saw an episode on tv this morning (ah Saturday morning cartoons...) I gave it a look.

Was ok.

primeone
11-24-2007, 12:37 PM
Had never heard of avatar b4 trs so when i saw an episode on tv this morning (ah Saturday morning cartoons...) I gave it a look.

Was ok.

As my brothers the GoodFeathers says ...

"WHO ARE YOU WHOOOO ARE YOU WHOOOO WHOOOO"

You really need to season the show from season 1 and season 2. Try before you buy its all over the net.

http://stage6.divx.com/user/Umuka/video/1882782/ATLA---s1e01---The-Boy-in-the-Iceberg
http://stage6.divx.com/user/Umuka/video/1881690/ATLA---s1e02---The-Avatar-Returns
http://stage6.divx.com/user/Umuka/video/1882789/ATLA---s1e03---The-Southern-Air-Temple
http://stage6.divx.com/user/Umuka/video/1882847/ATLA---s1e04---The-Warriors-of-Kyoshi
http://stage6.divx.com/user/Umuka/video/1882929/ATLA---s1e05---The-King-of-Omashu
http://stage6.divx.com/user/Umuka/video/1882996/ATLA---s1e06---Imprisoned
http://stage6.divx.com/user/Umuka/video/1883075/ATLA---s1e07---The-Spirit-World-(Winter-Solstice,-Part-1)
http://stage6.divx.com/user/Umuka/video/1883159/ATLA---s1e08---Avatar-Roku-(Winter-Solstice,-Part-2)

darthender
11-24-2007, 04:14 PM
Book 1 was the oppression of the Water Nation and their struggle to survive
Actually, the majority of the first season takes place in the Earth Kingdom also. Only the first couple and last couple episodes of the season are in the Water Tribes.

I think the books are more representative of the elements that Aang learns during the season than where he spends the season.

Seriously though, if you people think they're gonna skip to the next avatar, or even Aang grown up in future seasons, you don't understand how childrens television works.

If anything, future seasons will be about Aang doing whatever it is an Avatar is supposed to do. So, yeah, probably alot of Spirit stuff.


The reason there wont be a season 4 is simple......there is no more air nation. If the next Avatar is born and Aang dies so dies the Avatar. There will be no 4th nation for the spirit of the Avatar to be born back into. Which may be his ultimate price to pay for being Avatar. The end of his line; Avatar Roku has mentioned it 100 times by now that there is a progression, a change for all season, and cycle that must be gone through. Aang is ultimatly, and unexpectanly, the begging of the end of the Avatar. If i have my rebirth cycle right the next Avatar will be an Earth bender, then water, then fire, and then.......nothing.Yeah because there's no way Aang could have any kids...do you even think about these things before you say them?

"Hey, we got this hit kids show on our hands, lets make sure to end it in such a way as to doom the entire worlds spiritual heritage! The kids'll love it! Kids hate having hope!"

Good one.

lnknpk04
12-01-2007, 07:20 AM
So I just finished watching the hour long 'movie' on Nick. Holy jesus...What a great set of episodes. Absolutely hilarious and kept me on the edge of my seat. Anyone else get to see it? Hope the guys talk about it because it was amazing.

darthender
12-01-2007, 11:09 AM
We all talked about it 3 weeks ago. And the guys had already watched it when they talked about the show on the Thanksgiving episode.

http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11611

iccanui
12-01-2007, 04:28 PM
Well i havent seen it. Since it wasnt released offically.

So it was good huh? They gonna replay it? Or does anyone have it? All i can find is some crappy flash and im not tainting avatar by watching it in .flv format :p

lnknpk04
12-01-2007, 05:19 PM
You gotta be kidding me....I waited till last night when it was available elsewhere earlier?!?! I fear that my finger has slipped off of the pulse of the interweb.

----
I'll have to rewatch the Turkey day ep. I didn't remember them talking about the black sun eps. Maybe I was too hammered to remember :-\

iccanui
12-01-2007, 08:19 PM
well for what its worth, watching it before its release, kinda leaves you nothing to look forward too right ? I got up to 9 then realized, i have nothing to get excited about, so i stopped downloading them.

But i just got them and they were great. I cant wait for the rest of them.

drghoo
12-01-2007, 09:25 PM
This episode was friggin' EPIC!!!!! Like you ink I was on the edge of my seat. I got chills when Zuko finally confronted Ozai and held his own, then vanished!OMFreakinG! I was so jazzed when Jeff got on his soapbox and extoled the storytelling value of Avatar. This is by far my favorite TV series right now and maybe ever, after all's said and done. And the bonus is that my daughter likes it too so we have our movie night every Friday starting with Avatar. That's just a special thing for me! RAD!

lnknpk04
12-02-2007, 02:15 AM
My wife watches it with me and its a fun little date night thing. However, she ridiculed me endlessly during Black Sun as I was making comments to the effect of "Holy Shit Zuko! You're crazy!" and "Jesus Aang, just kill the ***** (Azula)". Avatar gets me a bit riled up :)

royall
12-02-2007, 02:52 AM
Just wait until the live motion picture. Yes, they ARE making a real movie with actors, produced by M. Night Shamalad (however you spell his name)

iccanui
12-02-2007, 06:31 AM
Im afraid for avatar the movie. Live action is gonna make this story difficult to pull off and that director isnt exactly known for this kinda thing. But he is good and not a cheap rip off artist, so i have hope still.



As far as the story telling of avatar, i know its kinda weird cause this is supposed to be a kids show, but i think ill be watching avatar till the day i die. There is certain movies and series that you rewatch once a year or every few years. This i think is gonna be part of that cycle. Its such a shame it has to end, but really it cant be any other way can it. I would rather have closure then more episodes just dragging it out ( read wheel of time series, ugh ).

darthender
12-02-2007, 09:08 AM
I was actually getting a little frustrated at the end when the Avatar and the worlds strongest earth bender couldn't even land a hit on a powerless Azula.

I mean, I know she's a martial artist too but jesus christ people, would just you hit her.

wizmaster
12-02-2007, 02:07 PM
I was actually getting a little frustrated at the end when the Avatar and the worlds strongest earth bender couldn't even land a hit on a powerless Azula.

I mean, I know she's a martial artist too but jesus christ people, would just you hit her.

Yea, it shows how much she outclasses them. Talk about born with talent (even if she did have some help).

This was freaking EPIC. I can't wait until the rest of the season. This is definitely a series to buy and re-watch until the end of time.

jsherlock
12-08-2007, 06:04 PM
Ok so on the recommendation of TRS i downloaded Avatar the first season. What I actually got was avatar book 1 water. Here is my confusion...I see Book 1 Volume 2 etc. Do the books correspond to seasons? Do the Volumes correspond to seasons? I'm just trying to get all the episodes and I can't figure out what to download as far as season 2 and if I'm missing any of season 1. If anyone can help me out that would be great

xsni
12-08-2007, 06:39 PM
The books correspond to the seasons.

-Book One: Water
-Book Two: Earth
-Book Three: Fire

Here is a link listing all the episodes so you can make sure you have them all.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Avatar:_The_Last_Airbender_episodes

jsherlock
12-08-2007, 06:47 PM
sweet looks like i have both book 1 and book 2, im just about to start watching book 2. Thanks alot man

xsni
12-08-2007, 09:05 PM
No problem. I hope you enjoy watching them all. ^_^

I thinks it's phenomenal how this show is so popular outside of its intented demographic. But what can I say, I have a soft spot for great storytelling.

royall
12-09-2007, 05:25 PM
I just bought the Season 2 box set. I loved the commentary, which is really the only thing I bought the set for. I wish there was more. Avatar: The Movie ftw!

royall
12-16-2007, 05:25 PM
Episode 13 ftw! I'm gonna miss Combustion Man though.

primeone
12-16-2007, 09:04 PM
Avatar 312 WAT (Cartoon-World ) 203 MB

best quality and edit I have found

Have fun

iccanui
12-16-2007, 09:27 PM
how good is " best quality i have found ". I wouldnt taint avatar with the quality that those flash abominations were before. ;)

Oh and since this is supporting file sharing and breaking copyright laws if anyone reads this, you might wanna download fast cause it probably wont be here long :-D

primeone
12-16-2007, 09:36 PM
it's in the same vein of quality as a regular tv download. It is 640x 480 and very clean from what I am seeing right now. It was from a insider video source from my knowledge. here is an image cap of it

http://www.geocities.com/rickroan/1197806765004.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/rickroan/1197806765004.jpg

canadian8703
12-16-2007, 09:38 PM
Is there a way to get around the 1 download per IP address for free users?

digitalfirefly
12-16-2007, 09:41 PM
When does this episode air?

iccanui
12-16-2007, 09:49 PM
Well, good find then if it looks that good.


I would imagine if it only lets you download 1 per ip address, that you could find it other places ... ya scurvy bastard.... yarrrrrr.

iccanui
12-16-2007, 09:51 PM
Is there a way to get around the 1 download per IP address for free users?

I hear if you just let the first download finish, you can download the other. I mean, that what people say anyway. If it aint swedish i try to not touch it :)

primeone
12-16-2007, 10:11 PM
i'm preping up a torrent for this on the Swedish mother land right now

iccanui
12-16-2007, 10:14 PM
its been done brother, dont bother. props for the effort though, its hard to be first on a upload like this.

iccanui
12-16-2007, 10:57 PM
well since this thread is still going i found a BT link to this. Best quality i have found of any avatar show. Period.


[Edit: No direct links, search of this torrent at Mininova]


just incase rapid share gets bishy with you

primeone
12-17-2007, 12:21 AM
http://thepiratebay.org (http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3936829)
Welcome to the internet come and collect your free cookie now!

BOOO YAAAAA BOOMARANG!!!

search for

Avatar: the Last Airbender - 312 - The Western Air Temple

on "El Bay de Pirates"

royall
12-17-2007, 12:23 AM
It airs on YTV in Canada before anything else. That's how people get it. It'll probaby air next Friday or the one after on Nick.

When will people freaking learn?

NO TORRENT LINKS. Say it with me. NO. TORRENT. LINKS.

masherscf
12-17-2007, 12:34 AM
The pirate guys are legal because they don't operate in the US.

I have no problem with you guys promoting BT links, but do it on your own websites.

Talk about BT, talk about what to BT, I love it. No direct links plz..

I don't what to be a dick-head about it. The next fellow who posts a link with a torrent page at the other end will close this thread.

autodas
12-17-2007, 02:44 AM
Why does it air in canada before the United States?

masherscf
12-17-2007, 03:08 AM
Why does it air in canada before the United States?

That's a great question.

primeone
12-17-2007, 09:58 AM
Because Canada is full of win while USA is full of fail?

iccanui
12-17-2007, 12:23 PM
well since this thread is still going i found a BT link to this. Best quality i have found of any avatar show. Period.


[Edit: No direct links, search of this torrent at Mininova]


just incase rapid share gets bishy with you

Did i post a direct link ? Jesus what was i thinking lol im sorry. Beer = brain turns off .

royall
12-17-2007, 01:19 PM
Yea, it airs in Canada because Canada is awesome. All the American cartoons make fun of Canada because they're jealous of their win.

masherscf
12-17-2007, 02:21 PM
Because Canada is full of win while USA is full of fail?

In this case, I have to agree. The USA seems to have 100% more suck.

darthender
12-17-2007, 02:53 PM
Thats only double the suck.

masherscf
12-17-2007, 02:54 PM
Thats only double the suck.

That makes it seem not so bad...

autodas
12-17-2007, 08:07 PM
ummm ok whatev

atomicfox
12-18-2007, 03:30 AM
Hey guys I just got back from Best Buy and the complete book sets of Avatar are on sale for about half off. For some reason only book one is available online link below.

It's funny cause I've been saying "Damn I want Avatar but $50 bucks a season is steep!"
Book 1 is available for $26.49
and Book 2 was $25 even.


http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7914439&st=avatar&lp=6&type=product&cp=1&id=1549244

lnknpk04
12-18-2007, 03:38 AM
I got a good deal on Avatar Book 2 at best buy the day it came out. $39.99 I believe.

neomonk21
12-19-2007, 02:40 PM
Hey guys I just got back from Best Buy and the complete book sets of Avatar are on sale for about half off. For some reason only book one is available online link below.

It's funny cause I've been saying "Damn I want Avatar but $50 bucks a season is steep!"
Book 1 is available for $26.49
and Book 2 was $25 even.


Thanks for the tip! I went out last night and bought the first two seasons for $26 and couldn't be happier (well I am extremely happy because the lady at the counter only charged me for one of the seasons and not both so I got them for $13 each. Sure I felt bad but I considered it a Christmas gift from Best Buy).

digitalfirefly
12-19-2007, 04:12 PM
Awesome, I'm going after work tonight and picking them both up. Good find.


*update* They only had season 1. I got the last one.

jeansnow
01-02-2008, 09:27 AM
OK, I just don't get it, why all the praise for AVATAR? I'm really big into anime and have watched (and follow) quite a few series, and when it first got recommended on TRS, I decided to check it out, cause it sounded like something I'd be into. Watched the first episode, and I sort of liked what I saw: good animation, characters designers, story looked promising, etc. But by the second episode I was already tired of the sophomoric humor and didn't want to keep watching at all. I don't know, I mean, I know a lot of the Japanese series have silly humor which I don't mind and often enjoy, but there's something about the "American" jokes that just gave it a Saturday morning TV feel for me.

darthender
01-02-2008, 12:31 PM
It helps to take off your anime elitist hat before watching. I do.


The main reason I like it so much is the plot at least equal to any anime I've watched in that genre, and the martial arts is better than 90% of the anime I've watched.

As for the humor, if it's too "american" for you...well, that's your anime elitest hat talking. He's kind of like a Sorting Hat, but more obnoxious.

iccanui
01-02-2008, 01:07 PM
I think your watching it wrong is why. Your getting turned off by the jokes, which are mostly aimed at kids. The value of the show and the draw is the epic morality thats taught to the kids and identified with by adults as well as the topics they touch on whether directly or through allegory. You might need to go through a whole season to get what im on about cause this show also evolves and gets more mature as it goes on.

Here, to better explain let me give you these 2 pics. The first image conveys the tone of the show at the start, while the second image conveys the tone of the last season. The story arc is the explanation of the journey from the first image to the second. Hope that explains it right.


http://torrents.bittorrent.com/nickelodeon/6eb82dd0fb96a7e73bce32960e51f89e0f64c69e/xlarge.jpg

http://www.donnasonlyhope.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/book-3-atla.jpg


So in other words, stick around and look past the kid stuff and you will see what the rest of us do perhaps.

atomicfox
01-03-2008, 05:47 PM
Sokka's Master is probably my favorite episode of the season thus far. Though the master's voice was a bit off the theme of the episode was outstanding.

iccanui
01-03-2008, 11:15 PM
It was nice to see him shown as a good swordsman too. He always is like the comic relief so it was nice that he kinda had his moment.

masherscf
01-04-2008, 12:55 AM
It was nice to see him shown as a good swordsman too. He always is like the comic relief so it was nice that he kinda had his moment.

Sokka is much more than the comedy relief. Surprisingly enough, he's the brains of the outfit.

MaxTheSilent
01-04-2008, 02:11 AM
Sokka's Master is probably my favorite episode of the season thus far. Though the master's voice was a bit off the theme of the episode was outstanding.

I couldn't agree more. I didn't like the voice at all. Seeing as though the look of the character was completely based on Sifu Kisu I would have expected a much quieter vocal performance for the character.

iccanui
01-04-2008, 02:25 AM
Sokka is much more than the comedy relief. Surprisingly enough, he's the brains of the outfit.


Oh yea i agree, he has grown into that. But im just saying, most times he gets the short end. He cant even bend. So that episode rocked cause it was his moment.

theshindigg
01-04-2008, 02:44 AM
Hey does anyone know when new episodes start up again. I'm up to 312 and can't wait to see what happens next.

heyseuss
01-04-2008, 04:24 AM
Sokka is much more than the comedy relief. Surprisingly enough, he's the brains of the outfit.

Too true, they established early on that he has the war/fight/strategy way of thinking going.

And Iccy, about him not being able to bend - in the Blind Bandit episode she makes fun of his inability to bend and he screams at her with dark red face, "doesn't mean I can't fight!!

enemybrick
01-04-2008, 05:42 AM
Im not sure how they are going to wrap season 3 up, Im not going to give any spoilers, but they are 12 episodes left, and we are at a point that seems like its going to take way more than 8 episodes to finish this.

lnknpk04
01-05-2008, 04:32 PM
Im not sure how they are going to wrap season 3 up, Im not going to give any spoilers, but they are 12 episodes left, and we are at a point that seems like its going to take way more than 8 episodes to finish this.

Seeing as it didn't take much time at all for Aang to learn earthbending, I think we'll be ok for him to quickly pick up on firebending. AH! I cant wait for new eps :)

masherscf
01-05-2008, 04:38 PM
Seeing as it didn't take much time at all for Aang to learn earthbending, I think we'll be ok for him to quickly pick up on firebending. AH! I cant wait for new eps :)

...Seeing that the most powerful living earth bender is not Fire lord Ozi, but his brother Iro and he's in the Avatar's corner for all intents and purposes.

lnknpk04
01-05-2008, 06:57 PM
...Seeing that the most powerful living earth bender is not Fire lord Ozi, but his brother Iro and he's in the Avatar's corner for all intents and purposes.

Good point. Unrelated note, according to www.avatarspirit.net, episode 313 aired last night in Canada.


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And its amazing!

iccanui
01-05-2008, 09:27 PM
but they are 12 episodes left, and we are at a point that seems like its going to take way more than 8 episodes to finish this.


Que the live action movie ... and .... roll it !

royall
01-05-2008, 11:07 PM
Yay, new Avatar thread.

In my opinion, this episode sucked. It was corny and arbitrary. Discuss.

masherscf
01-05-2008, 11:16 PM
Yay, new Avatar thread.

In my opinion, this episode sucked. It was corny and arbitrary. Discuss.

I'd prefer that you not start new threads on existing topics. There is already an existing AVATAR thread.

iccanui
01-05-2008, 11:51 PM
So who has watched it ?

Very good episode. It was a little cheesy in the part where ang is like teaching zuko to be nice. But the rest of it was really tight. The dragon benders at the end were so freaking awesome. That part where they like showed aang and zuko and he is like " i understand ", i actaully got tingles. I cant wait till uncle shows up, it seems inevitable.

Season three is not disappointing so far if in my book.

*edit*

just saw the ALL THINGS AVATAR on the other thread. I think since this is about the episode itself and not just general avatar talk it should be ok. Sorry if i should have posted there.

heyseuss
01-06-2008, 01:55 AM
...Seeing that the most powerful living earth bender is not Fire lord Ozi, but his brother Iro and he's in the Avatar's corner for all intents and purposes.

Iro is the most powerful EARTHbender ??? Wow, I can't wait for season 3 to come out on dvd.

masherscf
01-06-2008, 01:58 AM
Iro is the most powerful EARTHbender ??? Wow, I can't wait for season 3 to come out on dvd.

I meant fire bender. Call it a momentary lapse.

heyseuss
01-06-2008, 02:01 AM
I meant fire bender. Call it a momentary lapse.

I thought you'd totally spoiled a mega-twist in season 3 for me. I only watch the show on dvd, no tv here.

masherscf
01-06-2008, 02:05 AM
I thought you'd totally spoiled a mega-twist in season 3 for me. I only watch the show on dvd, no tv here.

I only spoiled the unsurprising fact that I'm an idiot.


The most powerful Earth bender is probably a dead-heat between King Bumi and Toph.

MaxTheSilent
01-06-2008, 09:29 PM
3-13: THE FIREBENDING MASTERS

Another fantastic episode. More Toph is always a good thing and it was unfathomably cool to see the origin of her earth-bending.

It's remarkable how subtly the character designs have 'grown up' over the course of the seasons. You look back at the early eps and it's undeniable.

eddielee
01-06-2008, 09:36 PM
Go to the wikipedia page for Avatar and look under Awards and Nominations. Somebody added the Totally Rad Award as one of them haha.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar:_The_Last_Airbender#Influences

MaxTheSilent
01-06-2008, 09:45 PM
I think AVATAR should be giving awards to The Totally Rad Show for turning so many people into hardcore fans.

royall
01-06-2008, 09:53 PM
I went there a while ago and didn't see that there, wondering why no one put it there yet.

Personally, I didn't like 313. It was written by the same writer as "The Headband" and "Nightmares and Daydreams," both arbitrary episodes in my opinion, seeing as Aang only attended the school once, and Nightmares and Daydreams was just...abnormal. I like Tim Hedrick's, Aaron Ehasz's, and Michael Dante DiMartino's episodes more.

theinevitable
01-07-2008, 08:47 PM
Remember the headband episode when Aang taught all those firenation children how to dance? Anyone think that will pay off when Aang and Zuka teach them all the dragon dance by the end of the season?

thin-j
01-08-2008, 08:31 AM
Ok so I'm skipping pretty much all the posts in here in the hopes of avoiding spoilers. How long after the first two seasons finished did it take them to hit DVD? I just bought the first and second seasons last week, watched the whole thing, and then realized I've already missed more than half of the third season.

I realize there are ways to catch up but I'm having trouble with that and I'm at a point where I think I should just wait and enjoy the DVD's. Any idea how long that might be?

darthender
01-08-2008, 09:03 AM
Awhile.

I remember season 2 came out right before season 3 started airing.

thin-j
01-08-2008, 09:06 AM
That sucks :(

theinevitable
01-08-2008, 04:09 PM
I think you can already get part of season 3 on DVD, can't you?

darthender
01-09-2008, 10:27 AM
Ah, that's true. They release them one disc at a time long before the "complete season" comes out.


So I have a question. Am I right in assuming that Avatar isn't going to be affected by the strike? I know that all the writing on animated shows has to be done much further in advance because of how long animation takes. So is Season 3 of Avatar completely done from a writing standpoint?

jasonb
01-14-2008, 01:30 AM
So awhile ago I found myself surfing around for a replacement to tvlinks and found it. Surfingthechannel with a .com after it (which i hope is good enough for the mods so they dont have to edit this post) was a great replacement with considerably more stuff on it than tvlinks, if not a little fractured in a few places.

But thats not the point, what is the point is that while on there today i was surfing around the anime section and found a pleasant surprise. I scrolled through the page and found that new episodes of Avatar: The Last Airbender and thought "Hey its been a bit since I watched Avatar I guess I should go refresh the ol memory" When the page loads Episode 12 and 13 are there to great me and i quickly load up and watch them. As usual for me I wont ruin anything for everyone I'll just post the episode names and quick summary.

Episode 12: The Western Airbending Temple:

After escaping from the capital city of the Fire Nation the children walk through the dangerous desert toward the western air temple. When they find it its in a rather strange place. As they begin to unwind and plan their next move a rather unlikely new ally, Zuko, shows up and tries to make peace with them. He doesn't make any friends though as this continually goes from bad to worse, especially when "Combustion Man" makes his presence known.

Fun Notes for the episode: Sokka returns to his old standby weapon the boomerang; Zuko makes some rather funny impressions that make sense in context but its weird that he does them.

Episode 13: The Firebending Masters:

Now that Aang has a firebending master, he tries to learn the way of fire but when Zuko cant produce any fire himself the group begins to doubt whether he actually as any skills in the bending art. So to literally reignite the fire from within Aang and Zuko head off to find where firebending all began, with the sun warriors. Finding an ancient temple, and all the traps that go with it, the duo learns a new firebending move, the dance of the dragon, and inadvertently finding themselves stuck in a very odd situation. Rescued by members of the society they though extinct, they learn that the original firebending masters are still alive and will teach them if they preform a certain ritual.

Fun Notes: This is really a bonding epsiode for Zuko and Aang but considering all the stuff that happens its funny in alot of places. Very little of the other 3 memebers of Team Avatar are seen in this episode....though Sokka gets a fair amount of lines.

**NOTICE** For episode 13 the audio is a few seconds faster than the video for some reason....but if it makes you feel any better search for Avatar01023 on youtube and he has the episode with perfectly synced audio.

jordanm85
01-14-2008, 04:46 AM
I think most people have seen these already, 12 is almost a month old and 13 was a few weeks ago. I'm waiting on that new one to finally show up online (If it even aired) And what is with the US not getting these episodes? What is wrong with Nick?

roni
01-14-2008, 06:05 AM
OK - I'm really ticked about this. I decided to be an upstanding citizen and buy Avatar through iTunes. The last episode they released was episode 11, and they released it in NOVEMBER. Please tell me why I'm paying money to be the last to see the show!

jasonb
01-14-2008, 10:12 PM
Dont feel bad Roni your supporting the show legaly......me i sometimes go through things in a rather well lets say unique way. Plus there are countries that are getting the new episodes earlier than we are and thankfully in english.

I search for newer episodes early because im a rather impatient person and i want to know things in advance...well i guess see them in advance and do what is neccessary to find them. Persoanlly I wish a few more episodes would come out in order for me to see where Uncle Iroh comes back into play.

Also something I want to just remind people of. Sokka is now considered a memeber of the order of the White Lotus so whenever uncle Iroh comes back will he agree to help Aang and the others because of this tie.

comradecloud
01-14-2008, 11:06 PM
Both these episodes aired in Canada (a wail ago too) so that's why not many have herd about them, and I think theres another one coming this upcoming Friday.

If you want to keep up on this yourself go to places like tv.com or avatarspirit.com, I know for a fact that there will be a thread with a direct link to any new epsidoes the night they are leaked, though most have already been taken down due to the legality of it.

bman
01-16-2008, 05:02 AM
I want to buy Season 3 of Avatar on DVD.

I look here


http://www.futureshop.ca/search/searchresult.asp?logon=&langid=EN&MSCSProfile=3C79F0C7EA3162B2749BCCA9199FD9D18F32DF 380121CBCDBE89D072245129708F753793A9A9C20FBFEB0BD6 48597A38B45D667CC53F8C8F0377B1CC495C84E03D1A1FCABC 2DA35704F8880610C9436DBFBF796201EEB22E020F4CFCDC66 E014CF1FB49F48E3DE77BC7878F6AFA4CE0767ADE9AC650D5B B3&search=KWS


and there are millions of names, book 1 2 3, earth, what, what not.

I might have to get Season 2 because I forget where I was left off.

Can someone pick out the correct Season 2 and Season 3 DVD?

MaxTheSilent
01-16-2008, 05:23 AM
BOOK 1: WATER = Season 1

BOOK 2: EARTH = Season 2

BOOK 3: FIRE = Season 3

bman
01-16-2008, 05:31 AM
I don't know if you can help with this but.

That link I gave has those names but Volume 4, V1, V1 V2 of each one. Do they not have all of Season 2 & Season 3 on one disc?

joymarie
01-16-2008, 05:40 AM
I don't know if you can help with this but.

That link I gave has those names but Volume 4, V1, V1 V2 of each one. Do they not have all of Season 2 & Season 3 on one disc?

http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&MSCSProfile=3C79F0C7EA3162B2B9AD68C2316B6FA109DFA1 5EA5FA29E0F944C9CF5BE935885700027F5702D66CC3DF606B 6B2AB145A96902FFC90F0799AC5770384A01C59EB972610AA5 7C83595C921966EFB954B71C662A598F46E3A478E391928A55 BCB05C0C925D6A99B32077D29BDA195555678965AC0315151B A9&sku_id=0665000FSM2136271&catid=14846

That's all of season 2. FYI, it's cheaper on amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000QUEQ86/ref=s9_flash_asin_image_2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=029HMD7KBP55PX1TWGW1&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=292858801&pf_rd_i=507846

I don't think the complete set of season 3 is out yet... aren't there still episodes airing?
Hope that helps a little.

bman
01-16-2008, 05:46 AM
Thanks for that, man its expessive, arg.

I thought Season 4 already started? Am I wrong?

Oh and amazon isn't cheaper if you go on the Canadian site.

MaxTheSilent
01-16-2008, 05:51 AM
There is no season 4.

S3 is still airing, albeit sporadically.

blacksymbiote
01-16-2008, 06:45 AM
I've heard it was planned as a 3 season show and that was all. As far as I know there will never be a season 4. Although with the popularity of the show, who knows.

darthender
01-16-2008, 07:00 AM
They did this with all three seasons. As the season progressed they released individual discs with 4-5 episodes each.

And then, before the next season aired, the "Complete Book" set would come out with the entire season.

Several of the individual Fire discs are out, but the "Complete Book 3: Fire" is not.



As for the 3 season thing, it's been said that the original story they started in the first episode is only planned to go 3 seasons. But that there's no reason they can simply start a new story arc after this one ends.

lavahot
01-18-2008, 11:10 AM
So I've spent the better part of the last 28 hours watching Avatar back to back from the very first episode (ty BT). MY thoughts? Awesome show. This is the super hero show that Heroes wished it were, er, was... Anyway, the show is extremely interesting and addicting, with few predictable moments. The last part of book 1 and the majority of book 2 are far better than book 1 as a whole, but the jury is still out on book 3 of course.

I have to agree with the TRS guys when they say it is indeed surprising that this is on a kid's animated network. It is filled with troubling concepts and ideas that would go far over even a preteen's hormone-filled noggin. I simply cannot believe that this is a Naruto spin-off. I do have one question though, what is the deal with all of the hybrid animals? Why do you need a chicken-cow-pig and turtleducks and BUZZards and crazy freaky penguins with six apendages and seal faces??? Oh, and lets not forget the giant flying bison, which doesn't seem to correspond to any taxonomy or even ancient folklore! And what's with the continents? What Earth is this supposed to be anyway: Far flung past or post-apocalyptic future?

The Zuko storyline is by far my favorite part though; call it my fascination with teen angst. I love those moments with his uncle where you can see they connect, and then Zuko tears his uncle's heart out. Unfortunately, book 3 has turned my favorite rebel into a Dawson's Creek reject.

Being past the halfway point of the last book in the series, I cannot wait to see the ending.

MaxTheSilent
01-18-2008, 11:19 AM
Anyone who says that season two isn't as good as season one is insane (and I think it might have been DannyT who said that).

Season 2 of AVATAR is, quite simply, one of the greatest pieces of fantastic storytelling of all time. Epic in every sense of the word.

Season 3, so far, has had amazing moments, but I feel it's building up to a truly monumental finale. And as Jeff said, if it continues and concludes at the level it has maintained thus far, it will have to go down as an all-time classic of the animated form.

And we'll all get to brag that we were there when it happened.

damnedeyez
01-18-2008, 11:51 AM
I do have one question though, what is the deal with all of the hybrid animals?

I dunno...but one of my favourite parts was their discussion over the Earth King's Bear.

MaxTheSilent
01-18-2008, 11:57 AM
I simply cannot believe that this is a Naruto spin-off.

Please tell me you're joking...

darthender
01-18-2008, 02:35 PM
The Zuko storyline is by far my favorite part though; call it my fascination with teen angst. I love those moments with his uncle where you can see they connect, and then Zuko tears his uncle's heart out. Unfortunately, book 3 has turned my favorite rebel into a Dawson's Creek reject. I agree with this. Zuko is just a huge pussy now. He's not even useful now. He's not even teaching Aang anything. He's more like, learning next to Aang at the same time. What does he need Zuko for if he's learning firebending from Dragons now?

I like that he's the groups firebender, but he's way to apologetic and grovely to the rest of the group. It's like he's got NO pride at all anymore. I can understand him having an epiphany and wanting to change his ways, but he's done a complete 180 from where he was, instantly. That's kinda lame.

wizmaster
01-18-2008, 05:22 PM
I agree with this. Zuko is just a huge pussy now. He's not even useful now. He's not even teaching Aang anything. He's more like, learning next to Aang at the same time. What does he need Zuko for if he's learning firebending from Dragons now?

I like that he's the groups firebender, but he's way to apologetic and grovely to the rest of the group. It's like he's got NO pride at all anymore. I can understand him having an epiphany and wanting to change his ways, but he's done a complete 180 from where he was, instantly. That's kinda lame.

I wouldn't say "instantly". It was building up for a while. Although I agree with you to some extent, do you expect him to be stubbornly proud? His epiphany was that he essentially fought for the wrong side for years and the things he fought so hard to get were meaningless in the end. How "proud" do you want him to act?

I like how he has to relearn firebending the "correct" way now. Also, he dragons aren't teaching them anything anymore so Aang still needs a firebending teacher (Aang isn't afraid to use firebending anymore but that doesn't mean he can firebend well).

satchman
01-18-2008, 05:33 PM
I think that Zuko has discovered a new "source" for his firebending, which does not mean he needs to relearn his technique, etc. So now that Zuko can firebend again, he will teach Aang.

on another note, does anyone know when episode 14 will be airing? or better yet, know where i can find this information?

autodas
01-21-2008, 10:14 PM
Are episodes 12 and 13 being leaked or are they just not being aired in America?

lavahot
01-22-2008, 03:07 AM
It's possible that they are saving them for the writer's strike.

lnknpk04
01-22-2008, 05:42 AM
Are episodes 12 and 13 being leaked or are they just not being aired in America?

They have been aired in Canada and put on the internet. Not really leaked, just not aired in the US yet.

I get my info from www.avatarspirit.net in case anyone was looking for a good avatar site.

damnedeyez
01-22-2008, 09:45 AM
I just want to know when 14 and 15 are going to air. I watched the first two seasons late last year/early this year...and now having to wait is difficult.

darthender
01-22-2008, 11:16 AM
I wouldn't say "instantly". It was building up for a while. Although I agree with you to some extent, do you expect him to be stubbornly proud? His epiphany was that he essentially fought for the wrong side for years and the things he fought so hard to get were meaningless in the end. How "proud" do you want him to act?I think the scenes where he's trying to act friendly towards them are really awkward. I don't think he actually likes them yet so it comes off as out-of-character. Actually, watching Zuko try and act friendly towards anyone is awkward and out-of-character.

I guess I wouldn't be bothered so much if the transition was more gradual, but they went from hating each other to joking around in the span of one episode. It took longer than that for them to get along with Toph for crying out loud.

-xcl-
01-22-2008, 06:47 PM
I think the scenes where he's trying to act friendly towards them are really awkward. I don't think he actually likes them yet so it comes off as out-of-character. Actually, watching Zuko try and act friendly towards anyone is awkward and out-of-character.

I guess I wouldn't be bothered so much if the transition was more gradual, but they went from hating each other to joking around in the span of one episode. It took longer than that for them to get along with Toph for crying out loud.

Indeed, I guess that was the biggest question avatar followers have "How will Anng Learn firebending?" SO I guess they had to plow thought with the last episode now that Zuko and Ang does the "DBZ fusion" dance Ang's mastered firebending done now on to the endings :) ( I did like Toph's flashback about how she trained with the badgermoles ... who doesn't like licking mole noses Good times)

lnknpk04
01-24-2008, 12:29 AM
The cover of Volume 3 is bad ass IMO

darthender
01-24-2008, 05:33 AM
I dunno. The second half of this season is just feeling rushed.

lnknpk04
01-24-2008, 10:49 PM
I dunno. The second half of this season is just feeling rushed.

I get that feeling too. If i remember correctly, nickelodeon even shortened the episode order from 22 to 20. Could be part of the rush too.

ngower
01-25-2008, 12:18 AM
I didn't even know this stuff was going on, what episode are we up to now?

iccanui
01-25-2008, 02:02 AM
314.

Zuko is making friends with the avatar and learning to create fire from a place thats not based off hatred.


When i put it like that, thats a kick ass episode right there. :)

masherscf
07-17-2008, 04:59 PM
Please post all you Avater posts here.

heyseuss
07-17-2008, 07:46 PM
I think the scenes where he's trying to act friendly towards them are really awkward. I don't think he actually likes them yet so it comes off as out-of-character. Actually, watching Zuko try and act friendly towards anyone is awkward and out-of-character.


That paragraph is full of "derrrr!!".

iccanui
07-18-2008, 12:48 AM
whoa, i didnt even see this. Will post here from now on!

friedostrich
07-18-2008, 07:53 AM
Just finished watching 316. After that long stretch between the last episode and this one, it was definitely a thrill.

Can't believe it's almost done... I really do hope that their plans for a spinoff play out because this is one of the finest shows, day in and day out without skipping a beat, that I have ever seen.

darthender
07-18-2008, 11:21 AM
That paragraph is full of "derrrr!!".I don't mean awkward in the sense that your taking it.

Like, last nights episode was the first time I've liked Zuko in a long time. Mainly because even though he's a "good guy" he was still being a dick(primarily when talking to Aang about his views on violence). Which is what he's all about. He's on the Avatar's side, but he's still the Zuko that I used to enjoy. Whereas before, he was being on the side of good, and trying to act good, and it wasn't very entertaining.


I liked how the last 3 episodes were, as they mentioned in the last episode, "field trips with Zuko" as he takes each person who doesn't like him someplace and they learn to not hate him anymore.

baron162
07-18-2008, 02:46 PM
Like, last nights episode was the first time I've liked Zuko in a long time. Mainly because even though he's a "good guy" he was still being a dick(primarily when talking to Aang about his views on violence). Which is what he's all about. He's on the Avatar's side, but he's still the Zuko that I used to enjoy. Whereas before, he was being on the side of good, and trying to act good, and it wasn't very entertaining.


that's because he doesn't/didn't know what it meant to "be or act good". It's similar to Cartman wearing a nice sweater and thinking of himself as behaving well and all is good.

I enjoyed the scene a lot. I love the whole series and can't wait for that ultimate DVD set.. if there ever comes one

missbombpop
07-18-2008, 08:32 PM
I am a little confused why they obviously want a Zuko-Mae, Ang-Katara thing going on, I still think that Zuko and Katara have more chemistry.
I am confused also that I care about Cartoon couples and I am 30.

Besides that, I liked this last episode, I just feel like they have a lot of unresolved issues for one two to be left~ It also took me longer than I thought to get back into the mythology. They waited far too long and then hit us with a week, a week in summer as well when I need to rely on my tivo and when I am more excited about TDK.
I have a feeling this winter I will be revisiting the 47 epis on my tivo...not kidding.

heyseuss
07-18-2008, 09:52 PM
I am confused also that I care about Cartoon couples and I am 30.

Actual LOLing going on over here.


a week in summer as well when I need to rely on my tivo and when I am more excited about TDK.


TDK? Why, are they making a move on Maxell's sales numbers ?


I have a feeling this winter I will be revisiting the 47 epis on my tivo...not kidding.

I have a feeling I'll be buying every dvd in september when they will all be out.

rokov
07-18-2008, 10:27 PM
TDK? Why, are they making a move on Maxell's sales numbers ?

http://www.instantrimshot.com/
:p

heyseuss
07-18-2008, 10:44 PM
http://www.instantrimshot.com/
:p

HAHAHAHA. . .

I actually like BASF, JVC and Fuji.

missbombpop
07-18-2008, 11:16 PM
HAHAHAHA. . .

I actually like BASF, JVC and Fuji.

ha


ha


(I've been texting that all day securing time and tickets and girlfriends. sue me!)

heyseuss
07-18-2008, 11:27 PM
ha


ha


(I've been texting that all day securing time and tickets and girlfriends. sue me!)

Not sure what you meant. Texting, "ha.....ha" ? Or texting what I said? Why do I want to sue you? And, 'securing girlfriends'... I used to do that, now I lease with an option to buy.

rokov
07-18-2008, 11:58 PM
HAHAHAHA. . .

I actually like BASF, JVC and Fuji.

I always liked Certron. j/k

(I'll be amazed if anyone gets that)

heyseuss
07-19-2008, 12:04 AM
I always liked Certron. j/k

(I'll be amazed if anyone gets that)

Over my head, I had to look them up. I've probbly used their stuff thousands of times though. What I googled said they re-label most of their products under the name of the company they are selling to. I'll have to check the company name on my tape eraser. It's a giant electro-magnetic sperm killing media eraser. In a locked room and has secret switche to turn it on, so nobody can accidentally erase a master of some tv show or movie. Funnily, their home address was nearby, around the corner from my financial advisors.

damnedeyez
07-19-2008, 01:55 AM
I have a feeling I'll be buying every dvd in september when they will all be out.

I'm waiting for the Season 3 set to drop below $40...otherwise it'd be on pre-order already. (Each season seems to get bumped up in price, it seems)

heyseuss
07-19-2008, 01:56 AM
I'm waiting for the Season 3 set to drop below $40...otherwise it'd be on pre-order already. (Each season seems to get bumped up in price, it seems)

I'm waiting for them all to be out, to see if they have a packaged set or something.

rokov
07-19-2008, 02:18 AM
Over my head, I had to look them up. I've probbly used their stuff thousands of times though. What I googled said they re-label most of their products under the name of the company they are selling to. I'll have to check the company name on my tape eraser. It's a giant electro-magnetic sperm killing media eraser. In a locked room and has secret switche to turn it on, so nobody can accidentally erase a master of some tv show or movie. Funnily, their home address was nearby, around the corner from my financial advisors.

Ooooh, now that's what I call a bulk eraser. We had a small one at the radio station when I was in college that I liked to play with. It made a great sound. By the way, Certron was a line of very low cost audio tapes back in the '80s. I used them for all of my 'classic' mix tapes. After a little research I've come to find out that they were a sub of TDK.

Back on topic, I was a little disappointed by tonights episode. It was funny and I loved that they referenced the cabbage vendor twice, but using the penultimate episode to do nothing more than recap the series was a bit of a waste.

heyseuss
07-19-2008, 02:26 AM
Ooooh, now that's what I call a bulk eraser.

It was big enough to fit a D9, that's big. It had a conveyor belt , weird thing was, you had to flip the tape and do it twice.

I'm referring to a post-production house I used to work in that did 100'000 ordrs a month. Someone screwed up making mass dupe copies of a Revlon electronic press kit, and Revlon refused to pay for the blank media twice (can't blame them, our mass dupe girl was drinking beer out of her trunk in the parking lot in breaks), so we had to remove labels and erase each one of them, so we didn't lose the money. That made me wonder, if I was a client, like HBO or WB, paying up to $20 for a blank VHS and up to $400 for digicam tapes, wouldn't you want them to be fresh.

rokov
07-19-2008, 02:35 AM
I would definitely want fresh media, but I suppose that as long as it wasn't played and was erased throughly it doesn't make that much of a difference. The recording process (even at high speed) does relatively little wear and tear on the tape. Having to hand flip all of those copies must have sucked. I wonder why no one has come up with a dual magnet eraser that does both sides at once. (probably some kind of technical reason)

darthender
07-19-2008, 03:04 AM
I am a little confused why they obviously want a Zuko-Mae, Ang-Katara thing going on, I still think that Zuko and Katara have more chemistry.
I am confused also that I care about Cartoon couples and I am 30.Because you have the common feeling that the female lead should be drawn to the badboy.

On paper, there's nothing likable about Zuko.

iccanui
07-19-2008, 03:13 AM
Everything is likeable about Zuko

A troubled confused past, a choice to correct his mistakes and change his life. Strong and wise cause of his uncle who loved him and who is a epic character in his own right.

Zuko is the definition of the struggle in us all to do the right thing. The struggle against being brought up to think about things in a wrong way and opening your eyes to the truth and having the strength to make the changes needed. Even at the cost of his family and his known life.

To me Zuko has a lot to offer, especially in season 3.

damnedeyez
07-19-2008, 03:20 AM
Personally, I think a proper ending would involve Ang sacrificing himself to save the world and not surviving...but I'm not sure if something like that would fly in Nik. Maybe some sort of flash forward, showing one of the main groups has a kid that will be the next avatar or something.

Of course, if Mae wound up falling, there'd be the Zuko/Katara opening... but all that seems a bit much.

MaxTheSilent
07-19-2008, 10:36 AM
Only one one thing is obvious to me.

Katara will be the next Avatar.

darthender
07-19-2008, 12:38 PM
.....what?

When the Avatar dies a person doesn't just suddenly become the new Avatar. When the Avatar dies, he is reincarnated. Born into a new person. So whoever the next Avatar is, won't even be born until after Aang dies.


Speaking of death, I like how in this last episode they did call outs to the fact that it wasn't clear if Jet and Combustion Man were actually killed. It always seemed to me that the shows writers want those characters to die, but were prevented from clearly showing it for the obvious reason of their audience.

bman
07-19-2008, 07:16 PM
I don't want it to end :( I am at EP17 at the moment.

darthender
07-19-2008, 07:21 PM
We all are. The last 4 episodes air tonight at 8.

lnknpk04
07-19-2008, 09:07 PM
Agreed. Tis a sad day radlings

bman
07-19-2008, 10:02 PM
So if there are so many fans, why is it ending? Why does every good show do that?

rokov
07-19-2008, 10:43 PM
While I'll miss it, I'm actually glad that they're ending it now at it's height instead of continuing just for ratings and letting it jump the shark.

damnedeyez
07-19-2008, 10:46 PM
So if there are so many fans, why is it ending? Why does every good show do that?

I'm pretty sure they planned it to end after a few seasons, from the beginning. Not a lot they can do with it really.

pandahotdog
07-19-2008, 11:26 PM
I don't mean to be negative but Avatar is really not that good. It's actually pretty annoying. Naruto is WAYYYYYYY better... and Avatar is just a manga rip off. I'd much rather read my comics than watch terrible shows being produced by slave labor in Korea so I'll watch the commercials in between. Enough with the commercials. Even DVD's are annoying. I'd much rather READ. Why wait for a dumb movie when the stories in comics are already out there. I've already read THE WATCHMEN. Who cares what the movie is going to be like. My imagination works much better than special effects.

missbombpop
07-19-2008, 11:49 PM
I'm pretty sure they planned it to end after a few seasons, from the beginning. Not a lot they can do with it really.

Yeah, I think it was designed to be a four season show, one for each of the elements. Last nights episode was "cute" but you have to wonder if it was for the writers more than the audience ( is Jet dead? "it's kind of unclear"...etc.) Anyway, 20 minutes into it I thought ' is this going to be the whole thing?'

It was.

( And don't get me started on the creeeepy Ang kiss, sure the girl is confused, she saw Zuko shirtless..sorry, what am I saying? )

Tonight should pay off though. I hope. I'll be watching it terribly late though and with some adult beverages consumed I am sure it will seem crazy awesome! :D

bman
07-19-2008, 11:50 PM
Either way, good stuff, enjoyed the whole thing. :(:)

damnedeyez
07-20-2008, 12:43 AM
Yeah, I think it was designed to be a four season show, one for each of the elements.

I think that was what mst people were thinking, but 3 makes more sense since Ang was already pretty much an Air master.

iccanui
07-20-2008, 02:58 AM
Satisfying end. Morally, spiritually, philosophically, and the relationships.

Will be getting the dvd's and rewatching for many years to come. This show is now part of me.

What more can be said.

lnknpk04
07-20-2008, 03:22 AM
The writers had it in there mind that they wanted 3 seasons. It may return someday with a new avatar and a new story, but they had the 3 books in mind when they came up with the idea

darthender
07-20-2008, 03:58 AM
There's plenty they could do in future seasons. I mean, balance hasn't really been restored, because Aang is still the last of the Air Nomads. Plus they could do alot with the Spirit world. I mean, the Avatar is the bridge to the spirit world, and we know not all of the spirits are good. I mean, Ko pretty much came right out and said Aang was going to have to deal with him some day. Then there's Zuko finding his mother.

These are all things they could delve into in a Book 4: Air.


Not to mention that I think they set themselves up for new kinds of bending and maybe even new lands in the world. They did this with the Guru describing the chakras. The first four each corrisponded to one of the four elements. The last three were sound, light and thought. And I think that's a set up for the possibility of Sound, Light and Thoughtbending.


Anyway, Finale Spoilers:











I came.

The two final battles were everything I'd hoped for. And Aang Spiritbending was a delightful surprise.

I only had two small complaints. The first was Soka losing his space sword. Space Sword! Noooooo!

The second was, so Aang gets jabbed in the spine with a rock and it just happened to push his chakra back into place? It seems like they could have had the Lionturtle fix that for him and it would have made more sense.

Aside from that, I couldn't have been more satisfied with the outcome. Epic battles, epic story, it's been one epic saga. It's one of the rare cases where the ending of something I've enjoyed so long didn't dissapoint in the least.

aerodash84
07-20-2008, 05:27 AM
That was everything I could have hoped for in a finale. I was so glad that they had a thought out story and arc for everything and everyone. Cool to see so many things come into play from different parts of the series. I'm sad the series is over, but very glad they gave it the ending it deserved.

Only thing I'm worried about is M. Night doing live action movies. I'd really much rather see the show writers with a great action director who has also told great stories. Wellmo Del Torro (although he's my top pick for God of War now)? Steven Spielberg? Any other ideas? Very few are coming to mind.

-xcl-
07-20-2008, 06:01 AM
Just finished watching the finale ... ah sweet ,sweet closure, Truly the definitions of EPIC!!

drift
07-20-2008, 06:37 AM
Is it really the end of the series? I can't believe that Nick would end something that is this successful.

lavahot
07-20-2008, 06:49 AM
Is it really the end of the series? I can't believe that Nick would end something that is this successful.

There is supposedly going to be three animated movies that continue the storyline, but who really knows?

drift
07-20-2008, 06:51 AM
That would be cool. Anything at this point would be a plus.

rokov
07-20-2008, 07:13 AM
Does anyone know where I can watch the finale online? The torrent isn't up yet and watchavatar.cc only has the first 5-10 minutes of each episode.

hermit-homeboy
07-20-2008, 08:10 AM
Just finished watching "The Old Masters". Was I the only one who thought "Holy Cow! Aang found the island on LOST!" :p

nolrootltoe
07-20-2008, 09:53 AM
SPOILERS

While I enjoyed the tone and mood of the finale I hated the actual implementation of it all. First off back in 3x16 Katara used blood bending. They made such a big deal about the morale of blood bending and how Katara swore never to use it again. In 3x16 there's no mention of any blood bending remorse.

Now Aang going into the avatar state again is more bullshit. It was so important for Aang not to let go of love and block his last chakra preventing him from reaching avatar state. Then here comes a deus ex machina rock that hits an injury that unblocks chakra but allows Aang to still hold on to love. Bullshit.

Finally they build the whole series, mostly the latter episodes, on having Aang confront the idea of killing the Fire Lord. All the past Avatars realized that this must be done and this would have been the perfect way Aang to mature and realized his true role as Avatar. But no, throw that out the window; have a lion turtle come out of nowhere in the final episodes and teach a technique to Aang that was super convinient and never mentioned anywhere before. Ladies and gentlemen, this is the true definition of deus ex machina.

thesauruslover16
07-20-2008, 09:58 AM
SPOILERS

While I enjoyed the tone and mood of the finale I hated the actual implementation of it all. First off back in 3x16 Katara used blood bending. They made such a big deal about the morale of blood bending and how Katara swore never to use it again. In 3x16 there's no mention of any blood bending remorse.

Now Aang going into the avatar state again is more bullshit. It was so important for Aang not to let go of love and block his last chakra preventing him from reaching avatar state. Then here comes a deus ex machina rock that hits an injury that unblocks chakra but allows Aang to still hold on to love. Bullshit.

Finally they build the whole series, mostly the latter episodes, on having Aang confront the idea of killing the Fire Lord. All the past Avatars realized that this must be done and this would have been the perfect way Aang to mature and realized his true role as Avatar. But no, throw that out the window; have a lion turtle come out of nowhere in the final episodes and teach a technique to Aang that was super convinient and never mentioned anywhere before. Ladies and gentlemen, this is the true definition of deus ex machina.

i stayed on skype with this guy for 10 minutes tying to figure out the verb to put where implementation stands.



i liek totally saved the day with

i liked the idea but "the actual *"

in google.








and avatar sucks

darthender
07-20-2008, 10:32 AM
While I enjoyed the tone and mood of the finale I hated the actual implementation of it all. First off back in 3x16 Katara used blood bending. They made such a big deal about the morale of blood bending and how Katara swore never to use it again. In 3x16 there's no mention of any blood bending remorse.She thought it was the guy who killed her mother. I doubt she actually felt any remorse.Now Aang going into the avatar state again is more bullshit. It was so important for Aang not to let go of love and block his last chakra preventing him from reaching avatar state. Then here comes a deus ex machina rock that hits an injury that unblocks chakra but allows Aang to still hold on to love. Bullshit.Aang had already learned to open all of his chakras. It was the lightning bolt injury that was keeping him from entering the Avatar state. The fact that a rock somehow counteracts a lightning bolt wound is still bullshit though.
Finally they build the whole series, mostly the latter episodes, on having Aang confront the idea of killing the Fire Lord. All the past Avatars realized that this must be done and this would have been the perfect way Aang to mature and realized his true role as Avatar. But no, throw that out the window; have a lion turtle come out of nowhere in the final episodes and teach a technique to Aang that was super convinient and never mentioned anywhere before. Ladies and gentlemen, this is the true definition of deus ex machina.I'm sorry, if you really thought the moral at the end of this story was gonna be "some times, you just gotta kill a guy" you were fooling yourself. This was still a Nick show. I originally though it was gonna be one of those things where events would end up with Ozai blowing himself up somehow. Which would have been really cliche.

Was the turtle plot-devicey? You bet. But it was also awesome.

iccanui
07-20-2008, 12:36 PM
So if there are so many fans, why is it ending? Why does every good show do that?

Actually its how it should be. Some stories and events have a start and a finish. To drag it on would be a disservice. I mean think about it, would you rather have avatar go on for 10 years and explore so much that it becomes nothing like the story for the show in the start and suffers bad writing as they grasp desperately to keep it going or have it wrap up nice and neat and have a point and purpose.

I dont want avatar to end in a way too, but it really has to if it wants to keep its integrity.

iccanui
07-20-2008, 12:41 PM
Only thing I'm worried about is M. Night doing live action movies.


Im very worried about ANY movie being made now. The story is done. How are they gonna wrap up such a complex 3 season arc in 2 hours. They wont. I mean even if they break it up into 3 movies, i still cant see it doing justice to the show. I guess i know what the fans of LoTR books feel like now when the movies came out. But peter jackson isnt directing this event nor is anyone with martial arts history and backround to my knowledge involved. I wonder how they are gonna catch the spirit of it all.

damnedeyez
07-20-2008, 01:00 PM
Overall I liked it...though there were parts I didn't (like him going into the avatar state at all in the final fight, Katara getting in the way of Zuko's fight, and even Ang suddenly learning a new skill at the last minute that winds up being how he defeats the fire lord.)

aerodash84
07-20-2008, 04:35 PM
Im very worried about ANY movie being made now. The story is done. How are they gonna wrap up such a complex 3 season arc in 2 hours. They wont. I mean even if they break it up into 3 movies, i still cant see it doing justice to the show. I guess i know what the fans of LoTR books feel like now when the movies came out. But peter jackson isnt directing this event nor is anyone with martial arts history and backround to my knowledge involved. I wonder how they are gonna catch the spirit of it all.

I am too. The ending was exactly what I wanted for the series, and I'm worried about the person behind it. I was taking a shower just now and that may be where I do my best thinking, but I think those behind the last few Harry Potter films should do an Avatar movie if one were to be made. They did, I think, a great job at condensing some of the major points of the larger books and gave some pretty good action. Especially with Order of the Phoenix with not only training sessions, but the story and other action scenes. If they're going to make these movies (Avatar) I would like to see better talent handling it. My other idea, follow Roukuu or a different Avatar then Aang could definitely be interesting.

hec207
07-20-2008, 06:05 PM
I liked the finale but somehow I would have hoped they did just one more epidsode. I don't like that Zuko asks about his mother yet we don't see if he finds her. What happened to uncle and the old masters? And also the way all of them were together at the end was kind of weird.

merryterry
07-20-2008, 09:56 PM
One of the many reasons this show is so fascinating is that it has more Easter Eggs than the Easter Bunny. Sometimes you'll miss them the first time you go through the show.

After taking a quick trip back to 'the library' (see what I did thar?), I stumbled upon something interesting.

http://dvdscreenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/210/341.jpg

I was completely satisfied by the ending yet stilll crave more but I understand why they didn't reveal everything. The writers wanted to leave some things unanswered in case they do a spin-off. Still I really wished they'd have wrapped up Zuko's mom's subplot. I'm gonna be wondering about that for a few years, maybe even forever.

rokov
07-20-2008, 09:58 PM
The beginning was a bit slow and I really didn't like the giant lion turtle of deus ex machina, but aside from that it was amazing. The very definition of epic.

bman
07-20-2008, 10:27 PM
I don't think I was that excited for a cartoon ever. This whole show was amazing and well done the whole way through. It's sad that it has ended but the final shows were brilliant. Of course I want more answers, which means I am hoping for a movie or something, but otherwise well done!

avenwhell
07-21-2008, 12:05 AM
Simply amazing. I wish there were more quality shows like this around. I also wish there were shows that were more concerned about telling a compelling story with a beginning, middle and end instead of milking viewership with mediocre plot twists. Avatar has been amazing throughout! I'm sad to see it go.

iccanui
07-21-2008, 12:15 AM
I am too. The ending was exactly what I wanted for the series, and I'm worried about the person behind it. I was taking a shower just now and that may be where I do my best thinking, but I think those behind the last few Harry Potter films should do an Avatar movie if one were to be made. They did, I think, a great job at condensing some of the major points of the larger books and gave some pretty good action. Especially with Order of the Phoenix with not only training sessions, but the story and other action scenes. If they're going to make these movies (Avatar) I would like to see better talent handling it. My other idea, follow Roukuu or a different Avatar then Aang could definitely be interesting.

Agreed. Angs story is done. Well this part of it. So unless its post series or another avatar like you said, i almost dont want a movie.

One thing is for sure. Avatar should be required watching in america. Our values are all F'd up right now and feeding this kinda stuff to our kids, teaching them about honor, friendship, making tough choices in life, family and keeping it fun when things get heavy, these are very good values and beyond it being a entertaining show, i applaud it for having the ability to teach that. How many kids right now are pretending to be Ang or Kitara. Which also i would like to point out how well women are presented in this show, very strong and intelligent.

Just a great show like i said. For those reasons i think i will watch this when im like 80 still. To always help me remember the values i chose to be important in my life.

darthender
07-21-2008, 01:29 AM
I got all my values from Tenga Toppa Gurren Lagann.

bcool
07-21-2008, 01:43 AM
holy jebus, that was a great ending. The finale definitely surpassed my expectations!

lnknpk04
07-21-2008, 02:15 AM
I must say that I loved the finale, though I am sad to see the series end; I was even good with the lion-turtle spirit bending stuff. He went on a journey to find an answer and found one. I can only hope that the loose ends are tied up at some point.

bman
07-21-2008, 06:05 AM
I think I have to say this, greatest Cartoon (and for kids) I have ever watched. Not many others out there.

dark_shroud
07-21-2008, 07:09 AM
I just hope in the movies Sokka gets his sword back. Aang could have a forst spirit find it for them. Yes I put to much thought into that.

I was quite happy with the ending. I can't wait for the movies now. Soon I'll start reading the books. I've been avoiding them for spoilers. So I haven't researched them at all. I just hope they put more out on the story line.

And a word of advice, avoid the official Nick forums Avatar section. My brain hurts after reading some of the threads there.

darthender
07-21-2008, 10:05 AM
I just hope in the movies Sokka gets his sword back.That's not going to happen. The 3 M. Night movies aren't a continuation of the series' story. They are live action adaptations of the series. One movie for each season.

The only way your going to get answers to anything is if they do another season of the show.

rokov
07-21-2008, 10:14 AM
Considering that there wasn't a major twist at the end of each book, I don't know how Shamalamadingdong is going to be able to direct them. :p

runjun
07-21-2008, 02:59 PM
Better ending than I was expecting for sure. I think it would be cool if they bring the series back they bring it back under a new name and have it be the same world but a couple hundred years in the future. Then a couple episodes in the new lead could go over into the spirit realm and Aang would be there. I know they wouldn't do that but it would be a big surprise.

maulik
07-21-2008, 03:42 PM
I think this the only television show including lost and BSG that has been consistently good and delivered on its promise. Those other two have a tough act to follow. Now i just want the entire series on blu ray.

dark_shroud
07-21-2008, 05:09 PM
That's not going to happen. The 3 M. Night movies aren't a continuation of the series' story. They are live action adaptations of the series. One movie for each season.

The only way your going to get answers to anything is if they do another season of the show.

I've heard it reported they were animated. :confused: Oh well.

missbombpop
07-21-2008, 05:53 PM
I've heard it reported they were animated. :confused: Oh well.

Nope, it's live action. Avatar Spirit (http://forums.avatarspirit.net) is an okay source of Avatar information even if it's mostly kids. Much better than the Nick site and good for movie information and stuff like that.

I was happy with how it ended but think that it could have used a few more episodes for some weight.
I wonder if the writers felt that their hands were tied because it is a kids cartoon. The second season seemed to be a lot more action/psychologically thrilling than this one even though I did enjoy the ending.
Katara .. hmmm.. I just don't like how she didn't kick Azula's butt and cowered so much. I didnt like the kiss at the end either. I just can't get past Ang being a "boy" and "monk"-ish and I just feel like it was forced. There is no romantic chemistry between those two. It would have been better if he would have matured-up and said that she was right and it was a bad time...that's the old person in me talking :)

rokov
07-21-2008, 07:06 PM
I was actually really glad that Aang and Katara ended up together. I'm not normally the type who cares about relationships in fiction, but it was great to see the nice guy finally get the girl for a change.

missbombpop
07-21-2008, 08:13 PM
I was actually really glad that Aang and Katara ended up together. I'm not normally the type who cares about relationships in fiction, but it was great to see the nice guy finally get the girl for a change.

Yeah, I'm one of those girls who always had it for the bad boy and kept the nice guys as "amazing friends".. it wasn't until later that I figured out how bad that actually worked out for me in the end. Now I stick with the nice dudes but the 16 year old in me can't help myself! :)

But that's beside the point, my problem was that Ang was 13 and acted like a little kid (when not kicking fire lord butt) He was the lead but not really a romantic lead. I just wish it would have been a thoughtful embrace more than a make-out scene. Are they going to have a 13 year old bald kid make out with a 15 year old in the live action? Ponder that. Especially in a kid movie.

rokov
07-21-2008, 08:39 PM
Well, technically Aang is 112 ... wait, no that doesn't make it any better. :p

aerodash84
07-21-2008, 11:13 PM
What would have been kind of cool is if Avatar was a little more like Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter where there are longer gaps in between certain points. It makes a lot more sense the way they told it, but for the romantic aspect and age. I was happy with it though, it was cool for the nice guy to win all around. Also, those kids had been through so much that they were kind of maturing faster then most. I mean Sokka even though childish at times was a great leader and strategist. Aang grew up as well from where he started especially with accepting his duties as the avatar.

jimmydelicious
07-22-2008, 03:53 AM
I just finished....
Just beautiful.
Simply beautiful.

fieryfrog
07-22-2008, 04:45 AM
I just hope the boys have a TV segment, just to talk about this.

Or it may be grounds for removal of their Geek cards.:D

maulik
07-22-2008, 02:41 PM
It had few surprises but man the execution was beyond reapproach. Of course i would have loved had Aang actually have to put his own feelings aside and blast Ozai to hell. Here's hoping for an adult swim edit :p.

darthender
07-23-2008, 07:47 AM
I just hope the boys have a TV segment, just to talk about this.I think they said they're talking about it next episode. Which makes me worried its not going to get the time it deserves with all the other Comic-con stuff going on.

psyche010
07-23-2008, 08:40 AM
God how I love that whole Office Space-esque sequence in the fireship for godsake
that instantly put this series so high in my list
for my brother is the real fan
but I laughed so hard at that moment and gave a clapplause...

dignan17
07-24-2008, 06:21 PM
Just wanted to join in on the praise for Avatar. I've loved this series since it first aired, and the interminable breaks have been unbearable!

I for one was happy to see it wrap up so well. Naturally, I'm going to miss what has become my favorite TV show of all time, but we've all seen far too many TV series go on for far too long and lose their way. I applaud the writers for having an end in sight and a plan laid out for how they'd tell their story.

I've never seen a show with more heart, more excitement, and better characters than this one, and I highly doubt I'll ever see one again. I will be buying all the DVDs and praying that when I have kids in the next four or five years, they won't mind watching a "kids'" show from this era. It won't matter, because dad will be watching these if they want to join in or not. I'll be watching this show over and over again.

One last comment: I'm sure some will disagree, but in my mind, there wasn't a single bad episode in this series, which is nearly unheard of. I happen to think that Supernatural hasn't either, but it's never reached the heights of Avatar or made me feel like this show has.

I'm going to watch the finale again. Pardon me...

spades
07-25-2008, 06:03 PM
Just finished watching the series off of dvr, in a word - rad! I don't think I can add much to the thread except to urge those who have not watched it to Netflix or buy the series.

Heading off to the Nick store and buying the biggest Appa I can get.

aerodash84
07-25-2008, 06:52 PM
One last comment: I'm sure some will disagree, but in my mind, there wasn't a single bad episode in this series, which is nearly unheard of. I happen to think that Supernatural hasn't either, but it's never reached the heights of Avatar or made me feel like this show has.

I agree on season 1 of Supernatural, but season 2 just didn't live up to what I had hoped. That's just my opinion though. Avatar is probably the best show I ever watched and can't recall a bad episode. Even the recap episode before Sozin's Comet I enjoyed. Such a great way to retell the events leading up to it with the bad stage players.