An Artistic Photoshop Show

[autodas]

I was happy that Revision 3 was launching a Photoshop show, but then I watched it and Bert Monroy teaches really weak stuff to do with what Photoshop can do. He seems to do stuff that is simple and can be looked up on a simple site (good-tutorials.com). I was hoping for an artistic approach to learn new techniques, not a high school class on advertising.

This new show would teach people about brushing, filters, and layers through aesthetic ways that everyone likes looking at (sigs/tags) The host(s) for this show would have to be also in the demographic area of 20 where they in the forums learning what is in.

http://brokeneden03.com/ is a place where you can find the kind of people to look for hosting this show.

[casework]

I think it's great, and I've been heavily using Photoshop for over a year. I know there are others on this forum who feel the same way. You can't expect him to go into advanced graphic design on the first two episodes. That and this is really an extension of what he used to do on The Screen Savers. But as time goes on and he starts doing progressively more difficult projects, avid Photoshop users will begin to find more and more to learn.

I garuntee there's one thing that almost nearly every person on that forum you posted does not have, and it's on-screen talent. It's not easy to be in front of a camera, and just because someone on that forum is sweet at making a sig, it wouldn't matter because no one would want to watch them for 15 or 20 minutes. Bert Monroy is a professional. If you already know everything he is teaching, then good for you. But as I've said, I've been using Photoshop for over a year, and I've been into graphic design for over 5 years, yet I've seen things in the first 2 episodes I had never known or thought about. Take this program for what it is, a fun, educational show about some quick and basic Photoshop techniques.

But I will say this, if you have so much confidence in the people on that forum, why not have them shoot a pilot? If it's that good and something people can actually learn from and enjoy, then you'll have a good argument.

[autodas]

you didn't go to the forum there did you? there are three big links that has portfolios of the members. they don't focus on tags, but yes I would rather watch the making of tags that they make than bevel a few bricks. I'd rather watch the new generation that are us that live in a photoshop internet world and have those that are great teach.

How can you say watching an artist (brokeneden one) would be more boring than Pixel Perfect?

Everyone likes tag tutorial videos because they are fun to take something you have learned and make it what you want with what you already know. Beveling a brick is not fun, sorry to burst your *everything Revision 3 makes is 100% correct* idea.

I garuntee there's one thing that almost nearly every person on that forum you posted does not have, and it's on-screen talent. It's not easy to be in front of a camera,

I can see you are already biased. all great artists are autistic in your mind

[sugarsickness]

I'd rather watch the new generation that are us that live in a photoshop internet world and have those that are great teach.

Make your own show. It's that simple, in this day and age if you don't like something you have the resources to do it better. It's obviously not a show aimed at Photoshop Wizards like you obviously are. So how about you teach?

Everyone likes tag tutorial videos because they are fun to take something you have learned and make it what you want with what you already know.

No, I do not want to watch someone make a forum signature, so you are wrong. I would much rather watch PixelPerfect than a show about 'tag' making.

Beveling a brick is not fun, sorry to burst your *everything Revision 3 makes is 100% correct* idea.

"you didn't go to the forum there did you?" In case you ahvent noticed here people complain about a lot of things, no one has that mindset that you described and Casework certainly didn't display it.

I can see you are already biased. all great artists are autistic in your mind

He never ever mentioned autism. YOU did. He wasn't saying that all artists are autistic but that all artists are PEOPLE and not everyone would be comfortable in front of a camera (Especially when they are teaching something).

[ryudo]

I have a friend who is a very talented artist and been using photoshop for years and makes great banners,sigs,wallpapers and sometimes comic strips and other things and in the first 2 episodes he has learned something new...I think Pixel Perfect is fine as it is and no need for another PS show.

[casework]

Sorry buddy but you're not going to prove me wrong. I'm a Communication/Broadcasting major, if there's one thing I know, it's that very few people are actually enjoyable to watch in front of a camera, and can attract viewers. By all means, if the people on that site are so amazing, shoot a pilot. I'm not saying Pixel Perfect is the best it could be. I'm not saying there couldn't be anything better. What I am saying is that someone who makes sigs for forums probably isn't going to have the ON-SCREEN talent to produce a sucessful show. If there is, shoot a pilot(3rd time I've said that). If it's good, people will want more.

Originally Posted by AutoDas

you didn't go to the forum there did you? there are three big links that has portfolios of the members. they don't focus on tags, but yes I would rather watch the making of tags that they make than bevel a few bricks. I'd rather watch the new generation that are us that live in a photoshop internet world and have those that are great teach.

How can you say watching an artist (brokeneden one) would be more boring than Pixel Perfect?

Everyone likes tag tutorial videos because they are fun to take something you have learned and make it what you want with what you already know. Beveling a brick is not fun, sorry to burst your *everything Revision 3 makes is 100% correct* idea.

If all you got out of it was beveling bricks, then you really need to pay more attention to the show instead of letting your imagination go to work. He actually turns it into a short animation about a black woman being racially profiled by the police. So if you're gonna complain about the pictures that he's using, then I say you should use that imagination of your's to pretend that he's using different pictures entirely.

[daikun]

Originally Posted by AutoDas

I was happy that Revision 3 was launching a Photoshop show, but then I watched it and Bert Monroy teaches really weak stuff to do with what Photoshop can do. He seems to do stuff that is simple and can be looked up on a simple site (good-tutorials.com). I was hoping for an artistic approach to learn new techniques, not a high school class on advertising.

Might I remind you that not everyone can afford Photoshop. There are also people who have never used the program before (like me) because they don't feel like emptying a chunk of their wallets just for a single disc (not to mention the needless warranties and packaging). PixelPerfect is a great show for beginners who want to see what the experience is like working on such an infamous program. Going into expert mode right off the bat is just too much to handle right now.

[juniejuniejune]

I don't know... maybe some of us are "weak" Photoshoppers and need to be able to see basic stuff done before actually comprehending. I know I tried to experiment on the GIMP (since I don't have PS). I could do basic stuff but paths? Pfft. That paths/pen tool episode helped me out a LOT. So don't knock this show.

[jordanddunn]

You are not saying that a tag (sig) is real graphic art are you?! HA! I am a professional graphic designer, and have been for years. Sigs are made by thousands where as real graphics designs are not. Why does he teach you how to do a brick wall, well because you will use a brick wall pattern 10 times more than I would ever use a sig graphic. Sig/tag's are for beginner designers who are not doing this for money nor do they plan on it in the near future. It's more of a waste of time than anything. Bert teaches you things that can actually be used in the design world. Now mind you, I am not hating on people here that design tags, but in reality we use real graphics, not shiny things or grunge, with a render of a gaming character. I would love to see someone try and compete with the greatest photoshopper in the world bert. Bert has written the books your designer friends have read to learn how to design. So please, put up or shut up my friend.