Revision3.com Shows Schedule Inside Revision3 Store


Go Back   Revision3 Forums > Shows > Film Riot

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes

  #1  
Old 08-06-2009, 09:54 AM
kzap's Avatar
kzap
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,256
Status: Offline
Default Episode 11 - Human Cloning and Camera Technique

In this episode we show how to duplicate your actor and break down some basic camera set-ups.

Cloning can be very easy if you keep a few things in mind while you’re shooting. Be careful of shadows, don’t move your camera (unless you plan on motion tracking), and shoot where the light won’t shift.??First...lock your camera on a tripod and have your actor play out the scene in all the positions you need. Again, be sure not to move the camera at all! Any shift will ruin the effect. Next...bring your footage into your editing suite or effect software; placing one clip on top of the other; then just mask your actor out of the clip on top, add some feathering, and you should have a pretty good effect.

Watch or download this episode now!




---
Great episodes, I did a cloning effect for a film a while ago, I used 3 techniques:
Split screen:

Which surprisingly worked really well.

Face replacement:

An idea I came up with and failed dismally.

Double:

Which work as well as I thought it would.
__________________
Linux enthusiast, film director, avid Twitterer and full time geek.

"I laugh in the face of danger. Then I hide until it goes away." - (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)

Last edited by kzap : 08-06-2009 at 10:19 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-06-2009, 10:13 AM
kzap's Avatar
kzap
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,256
Status: Offline
Default

Another case of me wishing I had seen filmriot a long time ago, the video I made is over 2 years old.
If anyone is wondering, you will never get to see that video I made with the evil twin, trust me it's bad.
Also there is a continuity error that the two peoples glasses disappear.

I just remembered I've been using the split screen cloning effect even longer than that, one of my very first videos I only had two actors.
It was a fantasy film and one of the scenes was at a funeral, it was the same two actors over and over again with different masks on.
We couldn't even afford a coffin so used an Amazon box wrapped in cloth, at the time we thought it was so high budget, ahh, those were the days.

Enough nostalgia, great episode like I said, the explanation of all the diffrent types of shots were really good and WTF was "Warning!" that was a bit of a non-sequitur, verry funny.
You guys have to look at the automatically genirated transcript here: http://revision3.com/filmriot/cloning maybe it's because you talk so fast but none of it makes any sense.
__________________
Linux enthusiast, film director, avid Twitterer and full time geek.

"I laugh in the face of danger. Then I hide until it goes away." - (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-06-2009, 10:29 AM
oliverblank's Avatar
oliverblank
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 9
Status: Offline
Default

Another really cheap way to do a dolly shot is go to a second hand store and find a cheep wheel chair. I got one for 4 bucks. You can either set up the tripod in the wheelchair, secure it as you see fit and be VERY CAREFUL, or have the cameraman, with a tripod or monopod for stability, sitting in the chair, while someone else pushes it. You can get a reasonably good dolly in closed areas, or other places you can't easily get a car, like hallways and rooftops.
It also makes for a nice piece of furniture. Mine is the desk chair I'm sitting in RIGHT NOW.
Unfortunately, I have little use for dollies, I do a lot of faux documentary style work, and, while precarious, it generally works best for the effect, to just have the camera man walk around following the actors.

Last edited by oliverblank : 08-06-2009 at 10:31 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-06-2009, 10:31 AM
kzap's Avatar
kzap
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,256
Status: Offline
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by oliverblank View Post
Another really cheap way to do a dolly shot is go to a second hand store and find a cheep wheel chair. I got one for 4 bucks. You can either set up the tripod in the wheelchair, secure it as you see fit and be VERY CAREFUL, or have the cameraman, with a tripod or monopod for stability, sitting in the chair, while someone else pushes it. You can get a reasonably good dolly in closed areas, or other places you can't easily get a car, like hallways and rooftops.
It also makes for a nice piece of furniture. Mine is the desk chair I'm sitting in RIGHT NOW.
Yea, I've never seen a wheel-chair cheap but there are 3 in the school medical room so if I'm shooting something there I'm allowed to nab one.
Basically anything with wheels can be turned into a dolly, although somethings need more work than others.
Although whatever you used be prepared to dub all your audio, especially if you used a car because you won't be able hear a thing.
__________________
Linux enthusiast, film director, avid Twitterer and full time geek.

"I laugh in the face of danger. Then I hide until it goes away." - (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)

Last edited by kzap : 08-06-2009 at 10:38 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-06-2009, 01:21 PM
oliverblank's Avatar
oliverblank
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 9
Status: Offline
Default

My wheelchair is also relatively quiet. Most of the trouble I've had with it can be masked by dubbing in background noises.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-06-2009, 03:39 PM
mrpopular's Avatar
mrpopular
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Bay City, MI
Posts: 1,042
Status: Online
Default

Another Great Episode.

Question to anyone out there on the interwebs. I have Motion 2 & FCP, but in FCP i only get 8 point mask which isn't enough for in depth masking. In motion 2 You can mask all you want, til you blue in the face. But I can't find a spot to add a keyframe so that in the next frame I can move the points around the subject? So if anyone has Motion and has some insight, Plz Clue Me In.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-06-2009, 05:01 PM
xfuuey's Avatar
xfuuey
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 1,124
Status: Offline
Default

hilarious episode. i honestly have never given two shits about film editing, but you guys make it interesting & fun. it actually makes me wana mess around with that stuff in my free time. thanks for a great show. keep it up
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-06-2009, 06:05 PM
kzap's Avatar
kzap
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,256
Status: Offline
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrPopular View Post
Another Great Episode.

Question to anyone out there on the interwebs. I have Motion 2 & FCP, but in FCP i only get 8 point mask which isn't enough for in depth masking. In motion 2 You can mask all you want, til you blue in the face. But I can't find a spot to add a keyframe so that in the next frame I can move the points around the subject? So if anyone has Motion and has some insight, Plz Clue Me In.
Same problem here, I can only mask up to 16 points
The only way I can find to do it, is apply the masking effect once and do half the image then apply it again and do the other half and then again to get the details.
Takes a LONG time, that's why I prefer greenscreening.
Depending on the shot you should be fine with 8 points, for cloning I normally only use 4 or just straight crop of the image.
__________________
Linux enthusiast, film director, avid Twitterer and full time geek.

"I laugh in the face of danger. Then I hide until it goes away." - (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)

Last edited by kzap : 08-06-2009 at 06:07 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-06-2009, 06:33 PM
wouldy0ukindly
 
Posts: n/a
Default Not as funny as usual

I think you guys are more suited to high energy comedy, like in episode 1. Still a good episode tho.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-06-2009, 07:23 PM
masterevilace's Avatar
masterevilace
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 243
Status: Offline
Default

This episode was amazing. Best show on Rev3, at the moment.
It's not only tutorials, but the way you guys present them. These comedy sketches are hilarious and really pull you into the effects
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump



All times are GMT. The time now is 01:40 PM.

Rev3 Forum RSS


© 2005-2010 Revision3 Corporation