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Old 01-05-2012, 11:59 PM
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Default EP. 199 - Awesome Chess Puzzles That'll Fool a Genius!

In the second challenge, wouldn't moving the rook up one square result in a check mate?
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Old 01-06-2012, 01:51 AM
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how? the rook can only threaten left, right, forward, and back and the rook isn't in anyone else's way that would be cleared up by merely moving the rook. so with the set up given no matter where you move the rook, it is still not mate. although, with the way he posed the rules, i was looking for a way to get STALEmate, because he just said "mate" not "check mate" specifically, at this time i have yet to find a way, but that would be a hilarious back door solve. if anyone can find a way to achieve stalemate from the set up please post it here, i want to know, or, on the flip side, if there truly is no one move to stalemate, also let me know, so i can stop thinking about it.

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Old 01-06-2012, 02:54 AM
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With the rook at 8c, you leave the opponent's king in a position that it can't make a move. I just checked the rules and it appears in this situation the game is in a stalemate, and not a checkmate.

However, Brian said white needs to mate in one move, not checkmate. Since the solution is based on listening carefully to the wording...



psychie12345678, I just read the rest of your post and I see you also noted that he just said "mate." Moving the rook up to 8c would end in stalemate.

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Old 01-06-2012, 04:03 AM
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dont think he specified that it had to be a 'legal" chess move. In that case picking up the queen and putting next to black king woulda worked
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Old 01-08-2012, 04:24 PM
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Default graphics fail

The graphic at the bottom of the screen clearly indicates "WHITE NEEDS TO CHECKMATE IN EXACTLY ONE MOVE." (video time 5:30)

Unfortunately whomever did the graphics screwed it up and moved the white Queen to a new location f2 (Queen was supposed to be at f6) which gives the black King an out by moving to a6. (check the video at time 8:31)

Also there is another graphic failure at time 3:38 during the first puzzle.

Do they have an intern doing the graphics?
Brian, I hope someone else proofread your book (which I just bought for 99 cents on Amazon).

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Old 01-09-2012, 10:12 PM
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Unfortunately whomever did the graphics screwed it up and moved the white Queen to a new location f2 (Queen was supposed to be at f6) which gives the black King an out by moving to a6. (check the video at time 8:31)

Also there is another graphic failure at time 3:38 during the first puzzle.

Do they have an intern doing the graphics?
I take it you mean at 7:00, when the graphic clearly follows the mark's queen move from F6 to F2. Granted, it does stay there for a bit, but it should have been apparent that it was just visualizing what was happening on the board. (Hint: the black king always has an out by moving to A6, queue the definition of "space" at 6:11)

I don't believe there is problem with the first graphic either. It puts the pieces in the corresponding rows Brian says while going across the columns.

Don't knock the interns, man! I'm sure they work their butts off to bring us our weekly feasting of tricks and scams!
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Old 01-10-2012, 04:41 AM
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I take it you mean at 7:00, when the graphic clearly follows the mark's queen move from F6 to F2. Granted, it does stay there for a bit, but it should have been apparent that it was just visualizing what was happening on the board. (Hint: the black king always has an out by moving to A6, queue the definition of "space" at 6:11)
Huh? "Visualizing what is happening on the board?" Checkmate means that the King is captured and nothing else "is happening on the board." The King does not have an out with the Queen on F6. Which is why that would be a checkmate. With the queen on F2 it is not a checkmate. Thus Graphic Fail.


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I don't believe there is problem with the first graphic either. It puts the pieces in the corresponding rows Brian says while going across the columns.
The graphic shows 2 pieces on the same row (which is not allowed). With the board turned in this direction, the piece on the first column should be in row 8 not row 1.

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Old 01-10-2012, 05:48 PM
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The graphic at the bottom of the screen clearly indicates "WHITE NEEDS TO CHECKMATE IN EXACTLY ONE MOVE." (video time 5:30)

Unfortunately whomever did the graphics screwed it up and moved the white Queen to a new location f2 (Queen was supposed to be at f6) which gives the black King an out by moving to a6. (check the video at time 8:31)
I checked the video at 8:31; the queen is at f6, not at f2 as you claim.

At 7:01 you can watch the white queen move to f2 on the graphic, but that's because the person in the video just moved the queen there and the graphic is following along. That's what clayp0w means by ""Visualizing what is happening on the board." There's no graphic fail.

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Also there is another graphic failure at time 3:38 during the first puzzle.

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The graphic shows 2 pieces on the same row (which is not allowed). With the board turned in this direction, the piece on the first column should be in row 8 not row 1.
How is it you keep seeing things that aren't there? At 3:38 all of the pawns (representing queens) are in different rows and columns.
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Old 01-11-2012, 03:28 AM
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sphykterszaswut?

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Old 01-11-2012, 05:38 AM
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How is it you keep seeing things that aren't there?
Too many beers...

If you say they fixed it, then great!!
Maybe the podcast I downloaded is rev. 1 not Revision 3.

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