Craig Newmark - Craigslist
Thursday, December 6th, 2007 running time 13:38
Craigslist killed the newspaper classified ad. Wondering what Craig Newmark might kill next? Om and Joyce chat up the philanthropist on how he's fighting terrorism, then chime in on Facebook's 'privacy issues'.
Craig Newmark, the founder of Craigslist is probably the only classified ads mavin you'll ever see on The Daily Show (with John Stewart).
Not bad for the quiet guy that made millions by morphing an email list for arts and tech events in the Bay Area into the most successful online classifieds service in the US. (And possibly the world)
Om and Joyce talk to Craig about what's next for the man that killed classified ad revenues for newspapers across the country.
Discuss the man running day to day ops, Jim Buckmaster, Craigslist's CEO.
And Craig's other passions: the Consumers Union Board, the Sunlight Foundation, and micro-financing small companies in the West Bank of Palestine with the help of Israelis, Palestinians, and the U.S. government.
Why? "Prosperity is the best fight against terrorism."
Hitlines:
Is Facebook Beacon a Privacy Nightmare? Facebook has come under-fire with its controversial ad system "Beacon" that tracks user online activities.
Did Facebook mislead users with an Opt-In Opt-Out switcheroo? Is Facebook or third party affiliates at fault?
Learn how to block yourself from Facebook's beacon - link.
Worlds Collide: Talent Agents Team with VCs - Sources says Creative Arts Agency is collaborating with Draper Fisher Jurvetson and other VCs to raise $150 to $200 million. This could be World Internet Domination.
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Tom Cruise
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" Welcome to the ego and show him home and I'm doing and this -- talking FaceBook witches. All the news is the -- they need a little mistake this week but it's really pretty good deal they launched the program -- into the new you know advertising system where. Feeds of what you purchase show up in your news feed they told everybody it was an opt in system. Obviously an opt out system not a going to get hold PR backtrack and try commencement that's really the same thing."
" Price to I'm not convinced. That they had the only people who do couldn't you know blame I think that their partner's time as much to blame for B can as FaceBook -- BK -- transporting data without giving the opportunity to their customers. To sign up FaceBook is doing what FaceBook should do accuse. Trying to figure part of me to make money. But the merchants are also doing what they should be doing and trying to find any way to get people's faces re branding yet but the only thing is that nobody's watching on for the interest of the people. The card that I don't Facebook's plate though because they should. It's you know what I'm wondering is it was a deliberate. Misrepresentation. Four wasn't just that are worth -- appear at a press conference the truth -- some -- in the middle I think you have a situation. They're company basically. Talked. It could do this and get a wave that and I think it did it right right and I lost her to go crazy. Right and the number worn dark art of card involved in a bunch of other people I think what really happened to ease. They taught. Nobody would pay much attention."
" But the little other benefits that they just kind of interesting actually very easy to meet and thank you runner celebrity entertainment I. The talent market down LA has always been. You know interest in Silicon Valley -- has always attention in Hollywood from afar. And we -- used to seeing media companies getting active in in the union but now. The big news is that talent agency has decided to raise a fund with he would change the pretty make fun couple recognize that."
" So this is the new keys evolution as you keep saying I think what you have is hard to leave. Two kinds of -- to parts of California finally coming together additional talent he can think -- pickets you know they are voted one team which is parting talent and he's editor at large cabinet which is. Funding that make you crazy ideas Hollywood -- farms like TV shows are. Big movies you know 20000100. Million dollar project. He's he's a comfortable doing you know 500000 a million dollar project. So I think when you put -- to search together you begin to see in new hybrid market. And I team that is a really interest thing. In under government I think you can see more and more people do online video because these guys are suddenly unionizing."
" That's what that but the thing is I actually think that even -- there's. Plenty of room for relationships and joint ventures between Hollywood and Silicon Valley I'm not to -- and he for the best because of everybody needs and in Hollywood. There and they -- actually be the most sophisticated businessmen because there books which is accountable and not dealing with the more harder cutting issue."
" I think there's the sharks there than that -- business people I mean he's you know they get people -- You know fifteen million dollars and you know a few percentage points -- For Tom Cruise movie or something that says David looking Allenby at the talent yet only may have -- diagnosis so yeah."
" The prayer back Silicon Valley we actually have a great gets him and it's very well respected here for for sticking his beliefs our -- for today's Craig Newmark of pregnant with Spain. And -- Sharkey interview begins."
" Pregnant out of Cambridge England immunity crack it right. -- great thing. Yeah. Hey welcome back -- I'm home -- joins -- talking to Craig Newmark. Founder and head janitor Craig's list the most famous. The second most famous website on the planet. I -- welcome. Glad to be here this is a lot of places pay people between the -- inspecting the newspaper industry -- it might be interviewed is actually a pretty likable guy what."
" Do well I appreciate that but fear and negative reaction from newspapers or whatever is mostly mythology we do not have an effect on. Classified revenues. But that's a very minor thing compared to more aggressive site's. Wall Street demands from newspaper chains ten to 30% profit margin. And mattered -- morning. Who really got started. Basically in 94 and Charles Schwab. Showing people within that look like -- evangelizing it. And I saw a lot of people on that even back then helping each other out. By the time 95 rolls around that he. Decided to give tackle. A simple -- field list. For arts and technology events in San Francisco. And did that word got around. People wanted more I was listening. Did something about it. And today our pattern is in fact under the leadership of -- Jim -- master. We listen to what people want we try to do make sense. And then we try to listen for more."
" I read a quote from you once that said death is my exit plan one to volley that you what you're -- penance for Chrysler and and you see you know through the entire history having a good manager has often -- you quite a bit but through the years them there must have been just. Offers that were just too good to be true."
" We have turned down some. Offers that were pretty interest thing. In part thinking out there who needs the money. And then after meeting in some of the guys who made a lot of money. Well seems to be a burden and these guys are happier than an ounce. Giving away the money is a big burden because she want to give away and give it away in the way that sustainable. That really helps people out. And that's them really hard to do."
" How does one actually can't do days he meant that you've done it. Are as very individual I for a parade. To do more peace needs of society which make all my defensive line the day. And expensive clothes and whatever part you'd I think it's really hard to kind of -- get caught up and in the the old world country how do you do that or does that. Team which keeps you and your company -- an on board -- one apartment because you customers."
" I guess we just have a real good idea of what our values are. We share the values we all share things like -- treating people like you want to be treated. Live and let live and sometimes you get the other person a very. Maybe we just keep repeating those who ourselves. That maybe how it all works the idea is that that's how people throughout the country and I think the world normally feel. And that works meet personally aside from Craig's list. I'm fooling around some other areas. Basically decided that the best way to get a house more will be trying to save the world. So now on helping other people who are smart and who are getting stuff done. There -- Consumers Union. Which a lot of great work that you consumer reports. There's sunlight foundation. They are finding online tools. To help congress be more accountable and transparent. Jay Rosen and when you is trying to figure out better ways to fund investigative reporting brooks Jackson who runs fact check dot org. Now yes fact check and dot org which is built curriculum help teach high school students how to do professional fact checking. Lots of stuff going on. And and you most looking can particular effort oversees them or. I've been thinking we got a lot about those basic values and the best expression of American values and never seen might even Marshall plan. Which. Not only prevent a lot of violence coming out of Europe. But still markets. So for fun I built my own little Marshall plan for the west bank of Palestine. With the support of Israelis Palestinians and the US government. Figuring that if you get businessmen loans. Nokia micro finance for whatever. If people have jobs. Prosperity is the best defense against terrorism. -- let let's stuff some fun stuff from -- what's his favorite. -- place on cranks here what is your pitiful. My favorite place often is that I missed connections. But focusing on the best of section which draws a lot from this connections. Some of the things I like like when people managed to find. -- lost -- lost on that's a lot of fun. And frankly there are things like when people would get. Kidney donors of an interference some of the more formal mechanisms that. And there's -- once fears about where someone wanted someone else to take the CPA ethics test forum."
" One thing which is a -- any interest in the workers -- is that nothing really use. Really changed in terms of design and layout is that by design known as -- kiss my lack of resources are well. I don't think macaroni so this is an issue."
" Will we do change slowly. Do you notice things like we're experimenting on section that can happen -- there's the tabs and experimenting with something else. In certain categories and we're finding some people like him some don't. So we do -- very slowly. Originally. Were incredulous first became decidedly 95. I realized that I have no design skills. And so others keep it really simple and that's worked for a long time Jim has maintained that philosophy. Somebody said we have the visual appeal to -- French. That was intended and taken as a compliment. Because the deal is were all bombarded by too much media what we want is something. Fastened to the point. Not to get in the way."
" Great correct thank you for stopping by and you know hopefully we can get you back and unity can tell -- and in. You're -- alone. We'll see what happens but remember there are people out there who are a lot smarter than me they're doing the heavy lifting I'm just. Making some noise to have to -- and so. Lets you -- it finance and will be right back with some here comment. --"
" Hey welcome back to that you don't show I'm home she's joys of the card. Viewer feedback are intricate enough and it's a we have Stephen writing into -- thing wow. This is I'm talking about -- mean well not that. While launching a search in late December. He just dropped that one like it's no big deal. You know you watch very kill you never know what you're gonna get touching your whole life is a box of chocolates. But and that's -- That's a pretty good idea how much security shark and he is he if he can actually. Make it work for me. Any event you know you keep sending us your emails at ago my provision -- our armed. Visit our website actually impede our compacts that. Go home and visit our forums and you get comments from art form. And dangerous and they're programming note I'm off next week to -- Stewart and he had. Which is going to be pretty awesome have on them for Europe so. Liz Gaines who was an awesome writer and editor of who he. She's -- Finland for me and we have a very exciting gas -- can't -- this baby. They didn't look you next week. -- go home show."
" Welcome to the ego and show him home and I'm doing and this -- talking FaceBook witches. All the news is the -- they need a little mistake this week but it's really pretty good deal they launched the program -- into the new you know advertising system where. Feeds of what you purchase show up in your news feed they told everybody it was an opt in system. Obviously an opt out system not a going to get hold PR backtrack and try commencement that's really the same thing."
" Price to I'm not convinced. That they had the only people who do couldn't you know blame I think that their partner's time as much to blame for B can as FaceBook -- BK -- transporting data without giving the opportunity to their customers. To sign up FaceBook is doing what FaceBook should do accuse. Trying to figure part of me to make money. But the merchants are also doing what they should be doing and trying to find any way to get people's faces re branding yet but the only thing is that nobody's watching on for the interest of the people. The card that I don't Facebook's plate though because they should. It's you know what I'm wondering is it was a deliberate. Misrepresentation. Four wasn't just that are worth -- appear at a press conference the truth -- some -- in the middle I think you have a situation. They're company basically. Talked. It could do this and get a wave that and I think it did it right right and I lost her to go crazy. Right and the number worn dark art of card involved in a bunch of other people I think what really happened to ease. They taught. Nobody would pay much attention."
" But the little other benefits that they just kind of interesting actually very easy to meet and thank you runner celebrity entertainment I. The talent market down LA has always been. You know interest in Silicon Valley -- has always attention in Hollywood from afar. And we -- used to seeing media companies getting active in in the union but now. The big news is that talent agency has decided to raise a fund with he would change the pretty make fun couple recognize that."
" So this is the new keys evolution as you keep saying I think what you have is hard to leave. Two kinds of -- to parts of California finally coming together additional talent he can think -- pickets you know they are voted one team which is parting talent and he's editor at large cabinet which is. Funding that make you crazy ideas Hollywood -- farms like TV shows are. Big movies you know 20000100. Million dollar project. He's he's a comfortable doing you know 500000 a million dollar project. So I think when you put -- to search together you begin to see in new hybrid market. And I team that is a really interest thing. In under government I think you can see more and more people do online video because these guys are suddenly unionizing."
" That's what that but the thing is I actually think that even -- there's. Plenty of room for relationships and joint ventures between Hollywood and Silicon Valley I'm not to -- and he for the best because of everybody needs and in Hollywood. There and they -- actually be the most sophisticated businessmen because there books which is accountable and not dealing with the more harder cutting issue."
" I think there's the sharks there than that -- business people I mean he's you know they get people -- You know fifteen million dollars and you know a few percentage points -- For Tom Cruise movie or something that says David looking Allenby at the talent yet only may have -- diagnosis so yeah."
" The prayer back Silicon Valley we actually have a great gets him and it's very well respected here for for sticking his beliefs our -- for today's Craig Newmark of pregnant with Spain. And -- Sharkey interview begins."
" Pregnant out of Cambridge England immunity crack it right. -- great thing. Yeah. Hey welcome back -- I'm home -- joins -- talking to Craig Newmark. Founder and head janitor Craig's list the most famous. The second most famous website on the planet. I -- welcome. Glad to be here this is a lot of places pay people between the -- inspecting the newspaper industry -- it might be interviewed is actually a pretty likable guy what."
" Do well I appreciate that but fear and negative reaction from newspapers or whatever is mostly mythology we do not have an effect on. Classified revenues. But that's a very minor thing compared to more aggressive site's. Wall Street demands from newspaper chains ten to 30% profit margin. And mattered -- morning. Who really got started. Basically in 94 and Charles Schwab. Showing people within that look like -- evangelizing it. And I saw a lot of people on that even back then helping each other out. By the time 95 rolls around that he. Decided to give tackle. A simple -- field list. For arts and technology events in San Francisco. And did that word got around. People wanted more I was listening. Did something about it. And today our pattern is in fact under the leadership of -- Jim -- master. We listen to what people want we try to do make sense. And then we try to listen for more."
" I read a quote from you once that said death is my exit plan one to volley that you what you're -- penance for Chrysler and and you see you know through the entire history having a good manager has often -- you quite a bit but through the years them there must have been just. Offers that were just too good to be true."
" We have turned down some. Offers that were pretty interest thing. In part thinking out there who needs the money. And then after meeting in some of the guys who made a lot of money. Well seems to be a burden and these guys are happier than an ounce. Giving away the money is a big burden because she want to give away and give it away in the way that sustainable. That really helps people out. And that's them really hard to do."
" How does one actually can't do days he meant that you've done it. Are as very individual I for a parade. To do more peace needs of society which make all my defensive line the day. And expensive clothes and whatever part you'd I think it's really hard to kind of -- get caught up and in the the old world country how do you do that or does that. Team which keeps you and your company -- an on board -- one apartment because you customers."
" I guess we just have a real good idea of what our values are. We share the values we all share things like -- treating people like you want to be treated. Live and let live and sometimes you get the other person a very. Maybe we just keep repeating those who ourselves. That maybe how it all works the idea is that that's how people throughout the country and I think the world normally feel. And that works meet personally aside from Craig's list. I'm fooling around some other areas. Basically decided that the best way to get a house more will be trying to save the world. So now on helping other people who are smart and who are getting stuff done. There -- Consumers Union. Which a lot of great work that you consumer reports. There's sunlight foundation. They are finding online tools. To help congress be more accountable and transparent. Jay Rosen and when you is trying to figure out better ways to fund investigative reporting brooks Jackson who runs fact check dot org. Now yes fact check and dot org which is built curriculum help teach high school students how to do professional fact checking. Lots of stuff going on. And and you most looking can particular effort oversees them or. I've been thinking we got a lot about those basic values and the best expression of American values and never seen might even Marshall plan. Which. Not only prevent a lot of violence coming out of Europe. But still markets. So for fun I built my own little Marshall plan for the west bank of Palestine. With the support of Israelis Palestinians and the US government. Figuring that if you get businessmen loans. Nokia micro finance for whatever. If people have jobs. Prosperity is the best defense against terrorism. -- let let's stuff some fun stuff from -- what's his favorite. -- place on cranks here what is your pitiful. My favorite place often is that I missed connections. But focusing on the best of section which draws a lot from this connections. Some of the things I like like when people managed to find. -- lost -- lost on that's a lot of fun. And frankly there are things like when people would get. Kidney donors of an interference some of the more formal mechanisms that. And there's -- once fears about where someone wanted someone else to take the CPA ethics test forum."
" One thing which is a -- any interest in the workers -- is that nothing really use. Really changed in terms of design and layout is that by design known as -- kiss my lack of resources are well. I don't think macaroni so this is an issue."
" Will we do change slowly. Do you notice things like we're experimenting on section that can happen -- there's the tabs and experimenting with something else. In certain categories and we're finding some people like him some don't. So we do -- very slowly. Originally. Were incredulous first became decidedly 95. I realized that I have no design skills. And so others keep it really simple and that's worked for a long time Jim has maintained that philosophy. Somebody said we have the visual appeal to -- French. That was intended and taken as a compliment. Because the deal is were all bombarded by too much media what we want is something. Fastened to the point. Not to get in the way."
" Great correct thank you for stopping by and you know hopefully we can get you back and unity can tell -- and in. You're -- alone. We'll see what happens but remember there are people out there who are a lot smarter than me they're doing the heavy lifting I'm just. Making some noise to have to -- and so. Lets you -- it finance and will be right back with some here comment. --"
" Hey welcome back to that you don't show I'm home she's joys of the card. Viewer feedback are intricate enough and it's a we have Stephen writing into -- thing wow. This is I'm talking about -- mean well not that. While launching a search in late December. He just dropped that one like it's no big deal. You know you watch very kill you never know what you're gonna get touching your whole life is a box of chocolates. But and that's -- That's a pretty good idea how much security shark and he is he if he can actually. Make it work for me. Any event you know you keep sending us your emails at ago my provision -- our armed. Visit our website actually impede our compacts that. Go home and visit our forums and you get comments from art form. And dangerous and they're programming note I'm off next week to -- Stewart and he had. Which is going to be pretty awesome have on them for Europe so. Liz Gaines who was an awesome writer and editor of who he. She's -- Finland for me and we have a very exciting gas -- can't -- this baby. They didn't look you next week. -- go home show."








