" From the get go home show you sponsored by jangled."

" Hey welcome to the -- on the show I -- home. And Kate Katie is our guest host for today enjoys his for the holidays she can. Europe's number of patterns. And she's going to Morocco and all that kind of stuff. KD edit one of my -- oh through tech which is a site in order to contain him innovations and -- tech. King he's been he had been about it is about McCain thanks thanks fashion so what's going on -- Award today."

" Well basically. One new company called nano so alerts about five years old they announced today that they -- their first thin film solar. -- these you can't do. Can console and then wouldn't there very cheap to make they don't have any silicon in them and brings the cost of solar them."

" So you can because it is more. Solar energy becomes more affordable on an individual basis exactly. Okay. You can use to write about violence and I have to write -- so. Are the big story and in the Linus phases one -- our old friend just you know and as you know of spring and I think yeah. So this guy I don't know if you remember him from eighteen -- violence. And he was a CEO thinking he like this before goksel. Two Cingular and advocate Cingular and -- bands and or violence and and he's been brought him to to please can foresee at spring and then try and fix. The number four carrier a number three -- in the US and you know. Figure out what what they gonna do would -- iMac MacBook. And all sorts of things sedan has his hands full part -- convict -- their partners -- yeah. Are you talking about you know what he's going to be able to do in 2008. You know you're gonna talk to a panel. It's can bloggers and be going to discuss. What's on -- for composite need to be trained so and you kind of support -- on. Now green tech -- than me take a break."

" Okay. Will basically next year. They're looking to. Bring the cost of solar down even -- not with thin film solar but through different types of business financing plan so installation. So that's a big thing that venture capitalists are investing right now."

" That case and exterior there's a good chance my computer would be by. So look at. Maybe it's okay. Thanks kitty he'd be back after the break -- out of handling discuss technology trends for 2000 pesos state yeah."

" Welcome back to the -- show our -- KD and B are doing the blogger roundtable we have to be distinguished guests we have if -- man who's the editor of CNET -- read blog and we have Dan Farber you know veteran journalist and editor of -- and a good close personal friend of mine not that -- isn't worth it and thanks for having us and we're happy to come home from CNET offices here on this. Bring Dan and you are no Katie used yet. Protect and before they're gonna look at 2008 were the big story. The big trends we should expect and the stock you should expect aren't. And you don't show -- to get on that site can -- blogs and architecture so. You know let's let's get started guys community acquired -- Denis -- you know veteran consumer apps what is the big story for two I think in."

" In a way we're going to see. Kind of -- Emerging. Traditional software and web apps in the creation of hybrid apps and you look at Google gears as great example of a platform that can take a web application and make it offline. And you got Microsoft office bringing more. Putting more capabilities onto the website I think -- the whole rise of these kind of not really web 2 we're not really pure software applications. Which will be great for people who want to collaborate with others because he's apps we'll open up. Live real time collaboration with Google box those as well as letting them work offline in the way that used to right now so I think we're gonna see a lot of apps like that's -- great for consumers. Especially -- are as I think it will be continue to be advertising supported will be free. Which will be continued threat to Microsoft office and other. Traditional apps of course the -- on the consumer side anyway and small business."

" So you're saying that to speak French head. Collaboration and hybrid apps are the big things beat teams in your mind. Those are two of the big things if this is the continuation of war started in 2007. And banks of 2008 is the year when you act these doctors he. -- product show up and pieced him back."

" Yeah there are some out I think we'll -- more. I also think. One of the things it just started just recently both started with with FaceBook and FaceBook platform and recently with. -- and with other social networks like MySpace is the in the beginning of of the opening up of the social networks and the interconnection of them. Opensocial. Sort of as an example of that and and other. Eight guys and or double let. People on social networks communicate across social networks but I think it's really important because social right now. For individuals as it's nearly impossible to manage if you're on more than one who isn't. So these apocryphal let people communicate across social or things going to be really -- I think brings a lot of activity in interconnection of social networks in no way it."

" Do you buy that there. North I think it is this he will we're beginning to see I think we're the various stages of this notion that. You'll you'll have these. Consumer applications that are online and offline social network will be deeply integrated into the fabric of everything we do if you really look down. Kind of but the trend you to meet the larger trend is removing. From the data web. To the people -- Or actually we're just adding that people more as an emphasis point in the days away which is to say that. If you look at it from the the large company the corporate point of view which is no people -- resources and they gave them tools but now how do leverage. Those people in your company and I think social networking tools and technologies are. Her going to be increasingly important and organizations that it try to get more from the kind of the wisdom of the employees and partners. So you're expecting and you -- software to come up beaches. And comprise focused partly on that could you. Principles and apply it to a company's well you know we're already seeing some of that now from smaller companies and I think the larger companies oracle I think he's Microsoft's. And others are going to be integrating those features into their larger enterprise suites and so. I saved over the next year that will increasingly be seen. These companies talk about which is how. Web two point how -- they aren't that using Ajax and -- and so from networking as a way to provide. They're user base the kinds of technologies that they're using on the consumer side so you're saying that -- he would come back in the enterprise. Market exit -- act and cries and -- Infrastructure mean -- focusing 2008. Well I think it's always been focused if you're a larger company midsize companies that you're trying to figure out how do you get more out of here -- dollars. And down the lot of the traditional ways are is you're trying to lower your costs and and one of the ways of doing that is by making your. Data centers more power efficient. Electricity and other weird trying to do it is. To use some of these lightweight tools and get off of these -- these systems that have been costing huge amounts maintenance and integration."

" I think also the consumers who are now working. At these big companies that expect a certain level of interconnectivity among themselves that they get with FaceBook and and other consumer web applications and they're pushing. I think. The need for this stuff into the enterprise and press pass to answer hosted its people bring this technology in any way through the back channel."

" Right in the all this stuff related to consumer web application for the enterprise growing up. Means big big emphasis on the data center technologies. And inefficient data centers not a big problem right now. Q do you know of any technologies which are coming down the pike between have -- back issue of inefficiency in."

" consumption wolf a lot of corporations are investing in green energy consumption whether -- Sanders or through just basic software on there PCs for there. Corporate employees. Across the board and is huge. Companies corporations are investing."

" Bring you -- is that the cloud computing we actually have an impact on knowing the power consumption given that. You know these days you know -- Katie thing is. Teams -- our PCs on forever and it's power consumption. Keeps going now he's seeing the cloud or the you know. Cloud computing can bring down power I think."

" Definitely can bring down power in the sense that. He cloud computing infrastructure players such as an Amazon or Google. And others and that's an increasingly growing segment. Their their model is based on efficiency which is on the took time limitations to they have because if they're both those big data arm as they used their arms and not being used there."

" And any. It's so important for Google to bring down costs there and has seen hundreds of late night. Doing and it it a lot of clean energy and investing in solar thermal power. Eight week."

" Not only that they're actually going to the vendors -- that chip makers of hardware storage vendors and telling of this is how he thinks that we need inspect with lower voltage. We need this -- beyond all the time we can't really be shutting down because my late -- and enough. And revenue back up again and so they're they're going to the vendors now with specs to say. This is how we if you -- most efficiently as an industry. Run our big -- sense."

" On the nonetheless though there is more computing being done every day and this is not going to diminish there will be more compute cycles being used both on the consumer side. Maybe not on the enterprise desktop that's the one place we might see actual reduction in cycles being used but in any in the data senator. Especially these giant cloud data centers will be more being done has become more efficiently but there's more being done is going to be using more power."

" Right you know talking about who -- one of the things which I think is going to be big trend is is all the networking company that actually not breathing. Equipment geared towards the big data centers. They're still you know building equipment to large enterprises are kind of pops right there is nobody visiting the equipment geared towards. You know the web infrastructure and that's -- you have people who movement in -- and switches and they don't deal to be -- systems -- who have heart -- play. What you can -- used to do in 1900 played more deeply integrated communications company. From the phone down to the very -- and it's the same thing we have that problem. I was talking to somebody yesterday who said that in a lot of the solar guys are trying to figure out how to lure the cycles and so it was and are being used. That I don't sort of running a hundred pushing capacity resident is one packets going over them. A 100% power and number two -- one -- are. Billions of packets flowing through them so it's kind of like a lot more work needs to be done in terms and structure. I think one of the other thing."

" She's is that there's more horsepower in the collective desktops of the world and our on the basis of the world so. How do you tap into that because that's a huge under utilized resource as well."

" I think he'd be a lot of effort depends on. How far does the next generation of broadband proliferate and I think 2008 might be the -- and that can -- I think. So far at least in North America we've seen margin of our bank you know being related. You really can't say that you know 760. You can approaches and our bank. -- she go to Europe 128 megabytes is becoming standard or Asia. They're they're already doing hundred megabytes per second I think he's CEO of pollution in our banks -- Which actually Meeks all of these you know that cloud computing but pick computing actually possible because that is. Enough bandwidth available to us to actually be able to do it I think that is of trying which becomes really -- any. Powerful in 2008. I'm convinced the only one thing that uses the quite graphic he'd been speeds past those --"

" I think your right a leap in speeds would probably make corporations. The littlest fearful. Of having their applications -- Mostly because. So much of what people want his performance reliability. And we can talk about security and privacy in all those things but. I think the bigger issue is longer term our -- being incredibly robust. And it has to be very performing. In."

" And it has to be easy to train and use and if you have that -- pipe. From here because the cloud application and one bedroom just."

" I mean what makes you think that and -- thing goes it."

" There's a couple of things push to follow. The videos depicting great commitment that it is akin to you -- from the -- side effect the only -- the can charge more money from consumers. Is by offering them high speed -- these and you want higher speed. Stewart videos that you ought to -- he had -- huge amount of radio com online. He knew even metrics has started putting review online -- who. Missed out. So that is you from a consumer perspective that is -- need -- he -- queries that's that's true. Don't Simonyi right but suddenly and but that's only one part of it not being born. To off load that you do want people to do more than their progress and otherwise you would not operate writes for the Washington photos and videos. And unity the cat is -- looking -- offering other services on top of plain Vanilla -- back that is when you initiating you know. For negotiating over Hillary might be and I think that's him partnered all of these guys are also doing IQ you you don't yet to remember that. In which they want to broadcast a similar to yours iPhone. That you can't do that if you don't have enough upstream bandwidth so they're -- see you know they're going to push that -- And there's going to be an -- it once seemed the obvious but by the time. 2008 and we are he's been looking at ten megabit connection in not America and those 200 megabit. Across the planet could really learn about yourself up. Who. That I thought I mean he knows that the cell -- in the debate if he repeated that."

" In that scenario do you see it as. The phone carriers people on the pipes. Opening up to agree that you can pretty much ala carte whenever you're getting an increase -- price."

" reluctantly. You know they've been they would have to mean that it is they don't have much choice. -- The bottom of the key things which is gonna happen now is. Is that people who are gonna start calling them like I want to do this for my connections I need more time. You really start calling -- right now I get six kind of rebound from Comcast and it just is not good enough because it's not steady expletive -- this thing from watching. Hulu videos -- just and a packet propping him you know these different things happening just in case. The pipe but these are infrastructure issues like the dean and I perceive it as a candidate problem and our allies. You know who whose problem optimize probably anybody else's problem I always -- indicated for not delivering the -- And more and more people are beginning to figure out that they can. The cost of the connector that you pointing out into the -- application they need to connect it. He's certainly not like -- mr. drops you know and in the bucket and I think that's what he's -- you know -- the candidate should change in me I think. I -- my mind I think 2008. Is when they actually open up a bit of a little this. Which is a lot. From look at -- one company that those users who will force I think Verizon and open them for a minute or express. Not of these ads alarm o'clock I'm talking of art Verizon bios is gonna have actually being impacted not America. In the in the or he's market I think you -- do you see that happening. That are comparable companies like Hong Kong apartment that you often -- an -- field home but rated. And then you have. You know people like free in France which is doing thirty dollars. Did doing you know twentieth many of its FiOS. And we include -- and phone service and everything from thirty bucks. -- so that's pretty impressive I think you're seeing more and more people -- then I think we have you never have to leave home again except maybe to buy some food. And he can happen to -- it. Passage. Commodity live in America everything can be delivered through our guys Hamas Q one. Name one friend you are one application -- more looking forward to in 2008 --"

" I want to see the walls come down between the social networks can you. But does give your prediction. An easy one that they'll be a lot more consolidation. Coming next here in which -- almost every sector. And you. A clean tech bubble and hapless pedestrians."

" I wouldn't -- six hours."

" Day next year. And you hit think you guys -- joining us and hopefully you know we do it next year and top Mormon BC news -- scorecard. Let's see how you sick pay quality accusing mr. Annan who -- everything I need. So he'd be back after this break and without you -- back state."

" Hey welcome back I'm old and I'm -- And be our -- reviewer feedback that people are talking about. The dash cam episode which was shocked by killing and Liz while I was away so you want to keep it off duty."

" Sure okay is the first -- Mr. -- in the -- how many video sharing sites do they really need to be I think we'll say it'll be like his music here today gone."

" Office. I know I have a more positive on their peak here as you as you listen in the forums right. It's still a cool idea but maybe not a big thing for those who don't care much about that not sure how big of the need it is for this I mean death camp. Part it's always good to have them focused community. Innocent -- arguments from both sides let's see how it works out. I'm under the lukewarm on the idea of politicos so I kinda believe the -- So we'll be back next treatments you -- and our nightly proficient you mentioned you you -- investing heavily in content."

" He is in that investors festival so excited topped them all right so we've been back thinks we've been -- community."

" Take him. Good to go home show."

" From the get go home show you sponsored by jangled."

" Hey welcome to the -- on the show I -- home. And Kate Katie is our guest host for today enjoys his for the holidays she can. Europe's number of patterns. And she's going to Morocco and all that kind of stuff. KD edit one of my -- oh through tech which is a site in order to contain him innovations and -- tech. King he's been he had been about it is about McCain thanks thanks fashion so what's going on -- Award today."

" Well basically. One new company called nano so alerts about five years old they announced today that they -- their first thin film solar. -- these you can't do. Can console and then wouldn't there very cheap to make they don't have any silicon in them and brings the cost of solar them."

" So you can because it is more. Solar energy becomes more affordable on an individual basis exactly. Okay. You can use to write about violence and I have to write -- so. Are the big story and in the Linus phases one -- our old friend just you know and as you know of spring and I think yeah. So this guy I don't know if you remember him from eighteen -- violence. And he was a CEO thinking he like this before goksel. Two Cingular and advocate Cingular and -- bands and or violence and and he's been brought him to to please can foresee at spring and then try and fix. The number four carrier a number three -- in the US and you know. Figure out what what they gonna do would -- iMac MacBook. And all sorts of things sedan has his hands full part -- convict -- their partners -- yeah. Are you talking about you know what he's going to be able to do in 2008. You know you're gonna talk to a panel. It's can bloggers and be going to discuss. What's on -- for composite need to be trained so and you kind of support -- on. Now green tech -- than me take a break."

" Okay. Will basically next year. They're looking to. Bring the cost of solar down even -- not with thin film solar but through different types of business financing plan so installation. So that's a big thing that venture capitalists are investing right now."

" That case and exterior there's a good chance my computer would be by. So look at. Maybe it's okay. Thanks kitty he'd be back after the break -- out of handling discuss technology trends for 2000 pesos state yeah."

" Welcome back to the -- show our -- KD and B are doing the blogger roundtable we have to be distinguished guests we have if -- man who's the editor of CNET -- read blog and we have Dan Farber you know veteran journalist and editor of -- and a good close personal friend of mine not that -- isn't worth it and thanks for having us and we're happy to come home from CNET offices here on this. Bring Dan and you are no Katie used yet. Protect and before they're gonna look at 2008 were the big story. The big trends we should expect and the stock you should expect aren't. And you don't show -- to get on that site can -- blogs and architecture so. You know let's let's get started guys community acquired -- Denis -- you know veteran consumer apps what is the big story for two I think in."

" In a way we're going to see. Kind of -- Emerging. Traditional software and web apps in the creation of hybrid apps and you look at Google gears as great example of a platform that can take a web application and make it offline. And you got Microsoft office bringing more. Putting more capabilities onto the website I think -- the whole rise of these kind of not really web 2 we're not really pure software applications. Which will be great for people who want to collaborate with others because he's apps we'll open up. Live real time collaboration with Google box those as well as letting them work offline in the way that used to right now so I think we're gonna see a lot of apps like that's -- great for consumers. Especially -- are as I think it will be continue to be advertising supported will be free. Which will be continued threat to Microsoft office and other. Traditional apps of course the -- on the consumer side anyway and small business."

" So you're saying that to speak French head. Collaboration and hybrid apps are the big things beat teams in your mind. Those are two of the big things if this is the continuation of war started in 2007. And banks of 2008 is the year when you act these doctors he. -- product show up and pieced him back."

" Yeah there are some out I think we'll -- more. I also think. One of the things it just started just recently both started with with FaceBook and FaceBook platform and recently with. -- and with other social networks like MySpace is the in the beginning of of the opening up of the social networks and the interconnection of them. Opensocial. Sort of as an example of that and and other. Eight guys and or double let. People on social networks communicate across social networks but I think it's really important because social right now. For individuals as it's nearly impossible to manage if you're on more than one who isn't. So these apocryphal let people communicate across social or things going to be really -- I think brings a lot of activity in interconnection of social networks in no way it."

" Do you buy that there. North I think it is this he will we're beginning to see I think we're the various stages of this notion that. You'll you'll have these. Consumer applications that are online and offline social network will be deeply integrated into the fabric of everything we do if you really look down. Kind of but the trend you to meet the larger trend is removing. From the data web. To the people -- Or actually we're just adding that people more as an emphasis point in the days away which is to say that. If you look at it from the the large company the corporate point of view which is no people -- resources and they gave them tools but now how do leverage. Those people in your company and I think social networking tools and technologies are. Her going to be increasingly important and organizations that it try to get more from the kind of the wisdom of the employees and partners. So you're expecting and you -- software to come up beaches. And comprise focused partly on that could you. Principles and apply it to a company's well you know we're already seeing some of that now from smaller companies and I think the larger companies oracle I think he's Microsoft's. And others are going to be integrating those features into their larger enterprise suites and so. I saved over the next year that will increasingly be seen. These companies talk about which is how. Web two point how -- they aren't that using Ajax and -- and so from networking as a way to provide. They're user base the kinds of technologies that they're using on the consumer side so you're saying that -- he would come back in the enterprise. Market exit -- act and cries and -- Infrastructure mean -- focusing 2008. Well I think it's always been focused if you're a larger company midsize companies that you're trying to figure out how do you get more out of here -- dollars. And down the lot of the traditional ways are is you're trying to lower your costs and and one of the ways of doing that is by making your. Data centers more power efficient. Electricity and other weird trying to do it is. To use some of these lightweight tools and get off of these -- these systems that have been costing huge amounts maintenance and integration."

" I think also the consumers who are now working. At these big companies that expect a certain level of interconnectivity among themselves that they get with FaceBook and and other consumer web applications and they're pushing. I think. The need for this stuff into the enterprise and press pass to answer hosted its people bring this technology in any way through the back channel."

" Right in the all this stuff related to consumer web application for the enterprise growing up. Means big big emphasis on the data center technologies. And inefficient data centers not a big problem right now. Q do you know of any technologies which are coming down the pike between have -- back issue of inefficiency in."

" consumption wolf a lot of corporations are investing in green energy consumption whether -- Sanders or through just basic software on there PCs for there. Corporate employees. Across the board and is huge. Companies corporations are investing."

" Bring you -- is that the cloud computing we actually have an impact on knowing the power consumption given that. You know these days you know -- Katie thing is. Teams -- our PCs on forever and it's power consumption. Keeps going now he's seeing the cloud or the you know. Cloud computing can bring down power I think."

" Definitely can bring down power in the sense that. He cloud computing infrastructure players such as an Amazon or Google. And others and that's an increasingly growing segment. Their their model is based on efficiency which is on the took time limitations to they have because if they're both those big data arm as they used their arms and not being used there."

" And any. It's so important for Google to bring down costs there and has seen hundreds of late night. Doing and it it a lot of clean energy and investing in solar thermal power. Eight week."

" Not only that they're actually going to the vendors -- that chip makers of hardware storage vendors and telling of this is how he thinks that we need inspect with lower voltage. We need this -- beyond all the time we can't really be shutting down because my late -- and enough. And revenue back up again and so they're they're going to the vendors now with specs to say. This is how we if you -- most efficiently as an industry. Run our big -- sense."

" On the nonetheless though there is more computing being done every day and this is not going to diminish there will be more compute cycles being used both on the consumer side. Maybe not on the enterprise desktop that's the one place we might see actual reduction in cycles being used but in any in the data senator. Especially these giant cloud data centers will be more being done has become more efficiently but there's more being done is going to be using more power."

" Right you know talking about who -- one of the things which I think is going to be big trend is is all the networking company that actually not breathing. Equipment geared towards the big data centers. They're still you know building equipment to large enterprises are kind of pops right there is nobody visiting the equipment geared towards. You know the web infrastructure and that's -- you have people who movement in -- and switches and they don't deal to be -- systems -- who have heart -- play. What you can -- used to do in 1900 played more deeply integrated communications company. From the phone down to the very -- and it's the same thing we have that problem. I was talking to somebody yesterday who said that in a lot of the solar guys are trying to figure out how to lure the cycles and so it was and are being used. That I don't sort of running a hundred pushing capacity resident is one packets going over them. A 100% power and number two -- one -- are. Billions of packets flowing through them so it's kind of like a lot more work needs to be done in terms and structure. I think one of the other thing."

" She's is that there's more horsepower in the collective desktops of the world and our on the basis of the world so. How do you tap into that because that's a huge under utilized resource as well."

" I think he'd be a lot of effort depends on. How far does the next generation of broadband proliferate and I think 2008 might be the -- and that can -- I think. So far at least in North America we've seen margin of our bank you know being related. You really can't say that you know 760. You can approaches and our bank. -- she go to Europe 128 megabytes is becoming standard or Asia. They're they're already doing hundred megabytes per second I think he's CEO of pollution in our banks -- Which actually Meeks all of these you know that cloud computing but pick computing actually possible because that is. Enough bandwidth available to us to actually be able to do it I think that is of trying which becomes really -- any. Powerful in 2008. I'm convinced the only one thing that uses the quite graphic he'd been speeds past those --"

" I think your right a leap in speeds would probably make corporations. The littlest fearful. Of having their applications -- Mostly because. So much of what people want his performance reliability. And we can talk about security and privacy in all those things but. I think the bigger issue is longer term our -- being incredibly robust. And it has to be very performing. In."

" And it has to be easy to train and use and if you have that -- pipe. From here because the cloud application and one bedroom just."

" I mean what makes you think that and -- thing goes it."

" There's a couple of things push to follow. The videos depicting great commitment that it is akin to you -- from the -- side effect the only -- the can charge more money from consumers. Is by offering them high speed -- these and you want higher speed. Stewart videos that you ought to -- he had -- huge amount of radio com online. He knew even metrics has started putting review online -- who. Missed out. So that is you from a consumer perspective that is -- need -- he -- queries that's that's true. Don't Simonyi right but suddenly and but that's only one part of it not being born. To off load that you do want people to do more than their progress and otherwise you would not operate writes for the Washington photos and videos. And unity the cat is -- looking -- offering other services on top of plain Vanilla -- back that is when you initiating you know. For negotiating over Hillary might be and I think that's him partnered all of these guys are also doing IQ you you don't yet to remember that. In which they want to broadcast a similar to yours iPhone. That you can't do that if you don't have enough upstream bandwidth so they're -- see you know they're going to push that -- And there's going to be an -- it once seemed the obvious but by the time. 2008 and we are he's been looking at ten megabit connection in not America and those 200 megabit. Across the planet could really learn about yourself up. Who. That I thought I mean he knows that the cell -- in the debate if he repeated that."

" In that scenario do you see it as. The phone carriers people on the pipes. Opening up to agree that you can pretty much ala carte whenever you're getting an increase -- price."

" reluctantly. You know they've been they would have to mean that it is they don't have much choice. -- The bottom of the key things which is gonna happen now is. Is that people who are gonna start calling them like I want to do this for my connections I need more time. You really start calling -- right now I get six kind of rebound from Comcast and it just is not good enough because it's not steady expletive -- this thing from watching. Hulu videos -- just and a packet propping him you know these different things happening just in case. The pipe but these are infrastructure issues like the dean and I perceive it as a candidate problem and our allies. You know who whose problem optimize probably anybody else's problem I always -- indicated for not delivering the -- And more and more people are beginning to figure out that they can. The cost of the connector that you pointing out into the -- application they need to connect it. He's certainly not like -- mr. drops you know and in the bucket and I think that's what he's -- you know -- the candidate should change in me I think. I -- my mind I think 2008. Is when they actually open up a bit of a little this. Which is a lot. From look at -- one company that those users who will force I think Verizon and open them for a minute or express. Not of these ads alarm o'clock I'm talking of art Verizon bios is gonna have actually being impacted not America. In the in the or he's market I think you -- do you see that happening. That are comparable companies like Hong Kong apartment that you often -- an -- field home but rated. And then you have. You know people like free in France which is doing thirty dollars. Did doing you know twentieth many of its FiOS. And we include -- and phone service and everything from thirty bucks. -- so that's pretty impressive I think you're seeing more and more people -- then I think we have you never have to leave home again except maybe to buy some food. And he can happen to -- it. Passage. Commodity live in America everything can be delivered through our guys Hamas Q one. Name one friend you are one application -- more looking forward to in 2008 --"

" I want to see the walls come down between the social networks can you. But does give your prediction. An easy one that they'll be a lot more consolidation. Coming next here in which -- almost every sector. And you. A clean tech bubble and hapless pedestrians."

" I wouldn't -- six hours."

" Day next year. And you hit think you guys -- joining us and hopefully you know we do it next year and top Mormon BC news -- scorecard. Let's see how you sick pay quality accusing mr. Annan who -- everything I need. So he'd be back after this break and without you -- back state."

" Hey welcome back I'm old and I'm -- And be our -- reviewer feedback that people are talking about. The dash cam episode which was shocked by killing and Liz while I was away so you want to keep it off duty."

" Sure okay is the first -- Mr. -- in the -- how many video sharing sites do they really need to be I think we'll say it'll be like his music here today gone."

" Office. I know I have a more positive on their peak here as you as you listen in the forums right. It's still a cool idea but maybe not a big thing for those who don't care much about that not sure how big of the need it is for this I mean death camp. Part it's always good to have them focused community. Innocent -- arguments from both sides let's see how it works out. I'm under the lukewarm on the idea of politicos so I kinda believe the -- So we'll be back next treatments you -- and our nightly proficient you mentioned you you -- investing heavily in content."

" He is in that investors festival so excited topped them all right so we've been back thinks we've been -- community."

" Take him. Good to go home show."