Dissect TCP/IP, Dos Box, Alice, Day-Con, and Fon Batteries
Wednesday, October 22nd, 2008 running time 42:24
Chris Gerling breaks down IP and TCP headers with Wireshark and building blocks. Shannon Morse shows us DosBox, a free IBM PC DOS emulator. Christine Bourquin talks about Alice, a teaching programming language for beginners. Darren Kitchen summarizes his experience at Day-Con and answers some questions about Fon batteries.
Chris Gerling dives into the structure of IP and TCP headers in part two of his three part series on packet sniffing. He covers everything from source ports to checksums and everything in between offering insight into TCP packets in plain English. Then in part three he covers basic Wireshark usage and advanced techniques. Read more on packet sniffing on his blog at ChrisGerling.com
Shannon Morse shares with us DosBox, the free and open source IBM PC emulator that allows you to break out those old floppies and play your DOS games once again. While we wait for DNF, anyone for a Duke Nukem 3D deathmatch?
Christine Bourquin demos Alice, an innovative 3D programming language that makes it easy to teach programming using a simple drag-and-drop interface. Perfect for the next generation of computer scientists.
Darren Kitchen brings us his review of Day-Con with photos courtesy of the security twits. He also talks about Jasager batteries both big and small.
And on a production note: We've switched over from a standard-def composite based video mixing solution to a high-def HDMI based system. We're not ready to release the full 720p quite yet as we're ironing out (read: developing on the fly) the post production process but in the mean time we've got damn good looking 480p and we're looking for your feedback. Thanks a million to everyone who has donated and helped make this happen!
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" And kick in over 200 girl that's constantly reminding us that we need to pay attention here it's -- Janet Morse he community development wizard. What's going on DOS box."
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" Chris last time figured out here we're talking that the packet sniffing the -- high level overview. Of kind of you know the terms terminology it -- And by who want to do this today back with you some some getting into the packet structure to be just glossed over the last time."
" Okay we're gonna kind of -- into the it's -- chart here and actually Berea and and -- you capture you know some packets and that's in there and and dissect the -- are sure of course often network analyzer tool -- so let's had hired us we're we're not so we have have has just the defaults scenery here and we're dissident democratic don't know it'll many artists for now I was gonna gonna capturing interfaces. So this is where you can selects all the interface you have. That you conceded -- Right here this packet commission process. Is that there's are actual. Ethernet card through -- yes the system micro center at the same Microsoft has a certain drivers pocket so might start. Pull up. -- pull up Internet Explorer browser -- Hak5 whom I even really. Well. And this takes to make it simple you know whatever. I didn't feel like waiting for my -- Firefox. -- Chrome is that it's. -- that all right. So long wires we pull it up and -- stop it is but here some more. -- Is you just -- around here agency. Were up here it is the it requests this is when we actually."
" So let's that is the wires targets and open source obligation it's cross platform you can get down when his back clinics -- you can use it to see what's going across the wire we just did it to capture the eight the traffic when we went to the people look at an excellent five -- and now we can actually see everything that goes on to actually make that connection happen and we're gonna take a look at one of those packets. And and take a look in dissect that that we have a deep understanding of how that packet -- and a -- I'm totally glossed over -- and once we had that understanding. You tell -- next time. On on part two next three are great -- part three next week is actually going to be -- wires are yet some custom filters. Are those people are packed -- he's already have one."
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" Let's hear that I kind of help but -- explain this because there ever different layers -- putting together our packets and let's go ahead and start with Internet protocol so what is the first piece of the puzzle for -- matter -- together the IP."
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" So the good editor of the package pattern data -- did everything right and again that's just more overhead making sure that when we. You don't get the packet and assemble it together. That everything that is out there are it."
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" I believe it is how long to live there he watches. -- I'm just kidding. The fact that it's not a threat threat. Vigorously. So time to live is is how many hops that packet ago it happens when it goes from."
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" Active -- he. Talked about. It. I'm gonna quickly go to here and -- on screen. -- The so this and we're -- destination ports -- Apple's. -- So this is this is mean what are you trying to -- from the -- just don't -- groups. This is totally. So this is this is that this is huge tree here -- the -- army the army you the army it is the destination ports -- want to talk to -- All right our rate is only soliciting. From. Here's communicate here so like -- this inquiry. That's all it parties violence there are made want to talk to -- or 81 on me I'd like sports or you can't quarry what you can't army EU in the same time I understand that you voted earlier. The difference -- so you're just some random Joes will want to -- That's what that."
" But for intently for a potentially important -- of course field you are register like it's the the originals. Part which is Mary's series yet notably. -- everything through. So. Now I understand that. And I guess that's total that the conversation about when it comes network address translation between your honor and love alternatively Linksys brand it it -- usually going through multiple layers like his name that just to make it easy it is worth what we're gonna destiny's port. So now that weakens the you can -- on the numbers what."
" After this you'll get a secret number. This is gonna -- does going to help track you know where in the conversation things are -- Still -- packed into presidency but now I have today -- knowledge numbers and I acknowledge you could assess it ought to do with. Factory here. Number one so this is the first packet after sounds good. So they'd offset. And there's -- always show up but it system for if you were off fragmentation. Of things where you have updated to pad. You know justice offsets any great lines of right the next one is reserved. What is this it's. There wasn't yet it's discovered in the RC like kind of New -- seized from you know experimentation. You know it's real that it's. Around me has is the flags this is that this is a -- story here our -- covers all the flags CW are -- he hurt your act."
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" We've got links to charts and graphs tables that explain all these so basically you've got your IP. -- under that we've got a TCP. And and yeah have our data are -- every yeah yeah so all of this all of this but -- to send a bit just to send miscarriages and used it enough we can actually send a couple more sales of more images to what's under that the with the next layer I mean let's get past the IP and then we're -- to what."
" Well we're going back little yeah."
" Yeah now -- anyway so so yeah kindergarten blocks are going. I don't think it recently graduated. So we've we've gone. Backward while from the bottom up so we went frames everything -- and -- After this out this went on in the stack UD DV. Building this into an image and print any browser and withdraw -- layers to the application layer or you would be encapsulated down."
" And in. In our packet here as well. You know higher taxes to the -- this is. Visiting actually where we are. Where I requested an image on the web page. Next to the traffic so all of that was added -- that was cut on key yet and that that was so accurate or in the case. Like we talked about galactic go down layers news and we are talking about opera microwaves but yeah okay. Cool I think we have a good understanding of I'm actually how it's built and now. You can return next week and we're -- ones to actually get their -- thirty's you know archer yes I've we've we've you've seen lawyers -- all this time our action news. That is that filtering about it we know what to look for we can wire here -- least we'll get rid of stuff. Multi cast broadcasts of Mac address we can only look yet we want to -- the fun. Show messenger conversation piracy passwords he. That an Angel. Art press excellent excellent stuff I'm standing says Chris -- attack Canada it is particularly dot com please the -- that point --"
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" I love it because it keeps us and yet. When the most interesting things I mean they the hurt you due in -- and -- put an -- I now live in obviously true. Now -- the -- tuning in next week and doin' Linux clustering. You to crack. Passwords and and it again outwardly -- huge thing. -- Swiss army tool for networking and -- so one of the things I don't know us is hey you brought pineapples toward con and they. And it's not plug into and yeah because there's that are in here and usable batteries and that'd explain much of it on. One of the things you can do is pick up and hear it here. Here actually -- just -- this is real simple battery pack he can pick up. From from the RadioShack or a lot of other export one of these. All the retailers is really -- two dollars. And fortunately batteries will power upon in my tests for about two hours you're looking for something a little bit more robust. Forget the name of the gentlemen on ones at the moment but if he had gothic reforms there are we there forms here how. There is huge thread about battery packs on. And one on is this that really sack or pack. That's in the early in the control cars which is kind of neat because it was I think it's like eight dollars and I think there's agree fine because. This little battery pack and then just. In the wall. And I did you recharge on definitely better for the environment that would be wasted no mentally for alkaline batteries every two if you just want to like and two hours -- me for my testing in sitting there were an onion and longer and -- were actually working. With the guys who were put together aid. Lithium ion battery. Totally rechargeable allow you to run like. Your Q that. And we're also looking in the same kind of stuff I'm. We've got and so on USB. Charging. It turns out there's a lot more efficiency. You replace -- regulated stock on healing three point three volts to run. But he did voltage regulator on here drops everything down a little anyway even if you can replace real -- Q and so -- at all that info yet so we're we're trying to -- the light it's battery possible. On keeping it. I'm hoping -- under five ounces. Tool yet."
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" on -- that that's what it was true in -- top ready if we are so what are we got for today at three so we're going to be talking with DOS box Chris -- is down here we're gonna be doing some. Some more packets and I think we're actually doing into the structure of the packet I believe he's in some ways as props and -- and then of course next week. Get their hands dirty actually doing some analysis of the packets and saying yeah custom filters and stuff in. And what are your thoughts on next. And that is it's all your questions and all the other -- stuff kind of later."
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" And kick in over 200 girl that's constantly reminding us that we need to pay attention here it's -- Janet Morse he community development wizard. What's going on DOS box."
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" Chris last time figured out here we're talking that the packet sniffing the -- high level overview. Of kind of you know the terms terminology it -- And by who want to do this today back with you some some getting into the packet structure to be just glossed over the last time."
" Okay we're gonna kind of -- into the it's -- chart here and actually Berea and and -- you capture you know some packets and that's in there and and dissect the -- are sure of course often network analyzer tool -- so let's had hired us we're we're not so we have have has just the defaults scenery here and we're dissident democratic don't know it'll many artists for now I was gonna gonna capturing interfaces. So this is where you can selects all the interface you have. That you conceded -- Right here this packet commission process. Is that there's are actual. Ethernet card through -- yes the system micro center at the same Microsoft has a certain drivers pocket so might start. Pull up. -- pull up Internet Explorer browser -- Hak5 whom I even really. Well. And this takes to make it simple you know whatever. I didn't feel like waiting for my -- Firefox. -- Chrome is that it's. -- that all right. So long wires we pull it up and -- stop it is but here some more. -- Is you just -- around here agency. Were up here it is the it requests this is when we actually."
" So let's that is the wires targets and open source obligation it's cross platform you can get down when his back clinics -- you can use it to see what's going across the wire we just did it to capture the eight the traffic when we went to the people look at an excellent five -- and now we can actually see everything that goes on to actually make that connection happen and we're gonna take a look at one of those packets. And and take a look in dissect that that we have a deep understanding of how that packet -- and a -- I'm totally glossed over -- and once we had that understanding. You tell -- next time. On on part two next three are great -- part three next week is actually going to be -- wires are yet some custom filters. Are those people are packed -- he's already have one."
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" Let's hear that I kind of help but -- explain this because there ever different layers -- putting together our packets and let's go ahead and start with Internet protocol so what is the first piece of the puzzle for -- matter -- together the IP."
" This is Gary here's the -- this is this is what's value whether it's IP for TV'S_X. is probably just gonna before most of times before -- next. After the version. We have -- it tells you how long this IP -- actually going to be. It's usually twenty bytes are and it more or less than -- wrong that's retrenchment exercise now. -- It's at today have tight it has this like tight type of service. And mostly deals with network congestion AC and so really it to mean. -- what's next after that we have totally that's entirely the V of the --"
" So the good editor of the package pattern data -- did everything right and again that's just more overhead making sure that when we. You don't get the packet and assemble it together. That everything that is out there are it."
" Identification. This is just have this just part of its privacy system it's. It's not. After that it flags. This is up and acting headers or fragmentation. Fragment right. Now why would with -- I would. We pregnant. This here. We've pregnant. When we note packets going to be larger than. -- use it. You know fourteen to sober account so and then -- pay larger than anyone fragments of it."
" Because there's no big -- deficit -- packet. The critical look -- it. I thought the -- package you know anything about him before and we'll get a whole other thing I spent so that would actually gonna kinda you. But okay so we've it bigger than you're really -- working -- sixties norm does bolster this person just recently -- to program. Okay on after that it goes we have a fragmentation office which is here we do fragment we you know at what point -- we offs that is exactly where -- places that aren't pizzas that sixteen places that it's like 760. -- Time until but honestly we would times unveiled a lot of people knew it."
" I believe it is how long to live there he watches. -- I'm just kidding. The fact that it's not a threat threat. Vigorously. So time to live is is how many hops that packet ago it happens when it goes from."
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" Edwards aren't so after efforts CTO we have reported comments that is highly withers. TP users a million calls it we're gonna focus yes he's basically. After. After the protocol we have our checks it's just a CRC air check it just it helps me we're going to pass the whole thing Wednesday -- equal this doesn't. Our alaskans doesn't that you get a packet it -- it. That's source address this is where -- and other -- address is ourselves. In in the case of us. You know or you or. Org or victim of your target your mark here and it'll if yes. On after that his destination which would be. Okay. And then lower bar made the year Armenians are so and and this where we talk about the ports where is that with a decent -- so that there. So that's this this is it is there's one more on top optional units and options -- Optional options. It and that we're so he's that's that's where there's about four -- different things battery that's violent no Islam. Off senator pat packet there's certain size. Debugging mostly debugging that's -- there's there's a couple of network and things but you also -- stuff. Particularly if you do in this that you probably see CIA."
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" The new release -- but it. If -- a good understanding. A that's the first thing that you're hatter at and then we've got a whole bunch more bricks underneath before we can -- that's just to get our PS I don't need to talk won't talk about what you said. Right here it big as the great one or protocol. The let's talk matter particles we're talking TCP you're not be -- not any -- institution."
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" But for intently for a potentially important -- of course field you are register like it's the the originals. Part which is Mary's series yet notably. -- everything through. So. Now I understand that. And I guess that's total that the conversation about when it comes network address translation between your honor and love alternatively Linksys brand it it -- usually going through multiple layers like his name that just to make it easy it is worth what we're gonna destiny's port. So now that weakens the you can -- on the numbers what."
" After this you'll get a secret number. This is gonna -- does going to help track you know where in the conversation things are -- Still -- packed into presidency but now I have today -- knowledge numbers and I acknowledge you could assess it ought to do with. Factory here. Number one so this is the first packet after sounds good. So they'd offset. And there's -- always show up but it system for if you were off fragmentation. Of things where you have updated to pad. You know justice offsets any great lines of right the next one is reserved. What is this it's. There wasn't yet it's discovered in the RC like kind of New -- seized from you know experimentation. You know it's real that it's. Around me has is the flags this is that this is a -- story here our -- covers all the flags CW are -- he hurt your act."
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" We've got links to charts and graphs tables that explain all these so basically you've got your IP. -- under that we've got a TCP. And and yeah have our data are -- every yeah yeah so all of this all of this but -- to send a bit just to send miscarriages and used it enough we can actually send a couple more sales of more images to what's under that the with the next layer I mean let's get past the IP and then we're -- to what."
" Well we're going back little yeah."
" Yeah now -- anyway so so yeah kindergarten blocks are going. I don't think it recently graduated. So we've we've gone. Backward while from the bottom up so we went frames everything -- and -- After this out this went on in the stack UD DV. Building this into an image and print any browser and withdraw -- layers to the application layer or you would be encapsulated down."
" And in. In our packet here as well. You know higher taxes to the -- this is. Visiting actually where we are. Where I requested an image on the web page. Next to the traffic so all of that was added -- that was cut on key yet and that that was so accurate or in the case. Like we talked about galactic go down layers news and we are talking about opera microwaves but yeah okay. Cool I think we have a good understanding of I'm actually how it's built and now. You can return next week and we're -- ones to actually get their -- thirty's you know archer yes I've we've we've you've seen lawyers -- all this time our action news. That is that filtering about it we know what to look for we can wire here -- least we'll get rid of stuff. Multi cast broadcasts of Mac address we can only look yet we want to -- the fun. Show messenger conversation piracy passwords he. That an Angel. Art press excellent excellent stuff I'm standing says Chris -- attack Canada it is particularly dot com please the -- that point --"
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" Slash epic but it for us awesome stuff to check out that its. Its like its its. To -- a bunch -- jump -- that you would scare me -- NASA much I hear it. Well maybe now that worries you we can actually you've panned and stuff but don't look like. -- when to have you're if you're in Virginia area and you want to be a production this is actually -- they have all -- of the jobs data back. -- we will be here this weekend yet totally excited about that and it's not just pole and Darren not just Paul Shannon the entire. Crew -- one has come Lou Biggs Chris Christine Paul myself Daryn Shannon. Probably for it and somebody -- and there's some guy name Eric on the -- me tell -- it's gonna be there. Yes I don't know photographs that celebrate come on down. -- Nashville Tennessee."
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" Unlike yourself and go somewhere else. I've got your show with you and I'm not finished in mystic."
" Exactly what I'm -- did you."
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Started discussion: October 22, 2008 @ 9:23am GMT
Episode 408 - Dissect TCP/IP, Dos Box, Alice, Day-Con, and Fon Batteries [Discussion]
Chris Gerling breaks down IP and TCP headers with Wireshark and building blocks. Shannon Morse shows us DosBox, a free IBM PC DOS emulator. Christine Bourquin talks about Alice, a teaching programming language for beginners. Darren Kitchen summarizes his experience at Day-Con and answers some questions about Fon batteries.
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davmoo
about 1 year ago
Washing down a mouth full of candy with a bottle of beer. Darren, dude, you need help :D
DoXiD
about 1 year ago
Ok so i just watched the episode, a bit late then usual.
Cool TCP segment for those who havn't really gotten the hang of a TCP/IP package. Refreshed some of my old memories as well so that was nice.
What i got a bit fuzzed up about was the "Alice" thing.
Now i've been a programmer for atleast 5 years as a "professional" or w/e you wanna call it and i know it's not ment for me.
But the basic representation of programming in Alice was so faar way out there that even i got confused with Alice.
You still need to do your own functions and call them with events and so on.
And it was all so "blured" up (can't find a correct word for it). Really messy : /
Just me or anyone else think the same thing about Alice?
Cool TCP segment for those who havn't really gotten the hang of a TCP/IP package. Refreshed some of my old memories as well so that was nice.
What i got a bit fuzzed up about was the "Alice" thing.
Now i've been a programmer for atleast 5 years as a "professional" or w/e you wanna call it and i know it's not ment for me.
But the basic representation of programming in Alice was so faar way out there that even i got confused with Alice.
You still need to do your own functions and call them with events and so on.
And it was all so "blured" up (can't find a correct word for it). Really messy : /
Just me or anyone else think the same thing about Alice?
Bani-Banan
about 1 year ago
I with Sweden had cons :(
I guess I'll try to put together my own con.
Do you think Symnatec would want to sponsor swedens first hacing con? :)
davmoo
about 1 year ago
I actually considered going specifically to meet all you guys and take pictures. I also thought Darren's scheduled presentation sounded like it would be interesting (along with the guys doing one on building your own AK47). Nashville is only maybe 4 hours away from me (central Indiana). But, alas, I have farm critters who depend on me, and I couldn't find anyone to care for them for the weekend on such short notice :(
Maybe next time.
DoXiD
about 1 year ago
In reply to Bani-Banan:
I with Sweden had cons :(
I guess I'll try to put together my own con.
Do you think Symnatec would want to sponsor swedens first hacing con? :)
I guess I'll try to put together my own con.
Do you think Symnatec would want to sponsor swedens first hacing con? :)
To bad sweden dosn't have the same wide spread culture of hackers/cracking/security as everywhere else.
It will be alot easier to gather up a few thousand people in the USA but here in sweden you'll just find a lot of wannabies from stockholm trying to "be the best" when in fact well they fail : /
In USA you'll atleast find a few who knows a thing or two : )
Dreamhack is the most "hard core" you can find in sweden, and well it's over populated with 14 year old kids playing CSS or WC3.. Oh wait, no they play wow these days :P
Bani-Banan
about 1 year ago
In reply to DoXiD:
To bad sweden dosn't have the same wide spread culture of hackers/cracking/security as everywhere else.
It will be alot easier to gather up a few thousand people in the USA but here in sweden you'll just find a lot of wannabies from stockholm trying to "be the best" when in fact well they fail : /
In USA you'll atleast find a few who knows a thing or two : )
Dreamhack is the most "hard core" you can find in sweden, and well it's over populated with 14 year old kids playing CSS or WC3.. Oh wait, no they play wow these days :P
It will be alot easier to gather up a few thousand people in the USA but here in sweden you'll just find a lot of wannabies from stockholm trying to "be the best" when in fact well they fail : /
In USA you'll atleast find a few who knows a thing or two : )
Dreamhack is the most "hard core" you can find in sweden, and well it's over populated with 14 year old kids playing CSS or WC3.. Oh wait, no they play wow these days :P
I was at Dream Hack this summer. 14 year old kids screaming "FAGS", "OMG YOU NEWB". It was horrific. WoW is currently the most popular game.
As a non gamer - DH sucked balls. The only good thing was the i-net connection speed. Something like 30GiB.
Well. Too bad a T/R ticket to Las Vegas is something like 18.000SEK.
Defcon












- TCP explanation may be really useful for a lot of beginners
- Dosbox segment was way to short - some options, setup and stuff would have been great
- Great that you guys didn't switch places all the time
- Basic Alice example was good, too
Summary: Best episode this season by far