" Wow."

" This is an -- brought you buy it GoDaddy got com. Netflix dot com and searching -- recoil."

" After hearing all the crazy stories about freaknik it was time to make act five road trip and see what it's all about. We had fun we made a few new friends and think for the cameras weren't around of the parties for the most part. So in Hak5 tradition we bring you a sampling if you will of this year's freaknik starting with an instant response which -- its software defined radio chimed in yeah."

" Basically. It are you. Oh. Analogue. -- Leave them. I. Had absolutely. -- So. I thought I click. And oh. A -- or white hat exactly you know and a little. -- And I --"

" And like any hacker. Of the normally you. This -- job easier. And what kind of stuff does that you."

" The -- love. It. Into programs like that. Moral. Are all. They. Have. At. -- It's. It's -- one. And -- That are. Right and had a problem. That. Though. -- And I. --"

" These compare that against -- image that you have that you. Okay so it's not just in actor every trial and drag and then go back hey yeah is yours or your INI -- whatever has been modified. -- Yeah and I. I find it beautiful. I would got to use tools from Microsoft. That it doesn't get picked up by antivirus because we're checking machine has supposedly been around."

" Obviously -- You know -- hired or. -- Com. Union and be one actually. -- goodnight. At what level. And yeah. Right all. Where. Are. -- right light. On where I don't run. So we. -- and I'm."

" Hard to find you -- it hasn't -- Yeah yeah -- the new to me so how are you gonna have these tools they'll let you know."

" Right now. Editor. I've -- com. -- or less in. Your."

" Awesome and and we and we throughout Europe on the Mac platform. -- and you'll often are a great actor. Here in. The data they're -- how are -- and."

" You're out -- I'm really. Oh well I ordered my radio and a new. Radio. Large action and you -- And imported into your. -- an add on an individual and higher and brought. Radio. -- that. Order or are. -- Well. Maldini. And general regular. Are all. On your ER. Ordered. Are very. Like. Amber. Or. It on. Goes along with you radio and they were. -- Designed. Is it. All. -- and -- you are right there is going was one. -- And and it might bring audio. This is doing -- ring and radio signal. -- So you're doing more site or. Other. One example arbor. -- What got inside. You -- operate. On. Motherboard and -- on. Our gallery. On I example I have. -- network. Oh about thirty meg. On. Old. Amber you. Like another when -- That. On. -- Every -- a lot of on the way to not very much got a motherboard and daughter card. Or their other daughter board or hurt. Otter -- or. Other wanted to -- tigers on. Right -- There is up to a site. And are sold on auto. Or or else I want were on one or. -- cellular and are. 900. And now."

" Oh yeah this is -- Our united you. -- our. Lets you are you ready and Roger. Now are. Basically just kind of process. Signal processor. Ram. -- You can connect blocks together and you come and raw data and what it out -- kind. Digital information or audio. Something like these. Are. Over. Our audio or video all that. -- better. Different different modular. USE which is. -- Yeah I know wanted to do something under wondered. Now does a lot of -- on board. Not the looking. Actor and thirty megahertz life. -- What exactly you want at and only hey. It that you. I view elect our somewhere where I act that there's a device. Opera right device operating on some. Odd that that and and kind of late equivalent. -- Exactly and it even better than that. I think -- somewhere around. -- and you can you can outlook get that out and then you say well. Here because -- On your on actor. And and are. You."

" Out or a lot of hardware ball and once edit -- today. Experiment in what year Yahoo! and you NRA and radio order and where -- it."

" Well Bob -- radio -- Art. The only. It. Her. -- hardware armed. And a that is next. -- around dollar. Daughter. -- Really great camera you know earned her poor. I really. Want to -- out a little bit."

" That's I like -- while. A lot of on -- when you. Oh a term like. That they are. -- your outlook out. -- Black art. Of war and know -- on the dollar air. How he had. Anyway I'm -- And aura it."

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" Ice reached out. And it was not a country. And her party and at all. So the body and that your priest now. Cool. Well. Here. Like gravity like a mom -- mind. OK so you want my current -- in -- I had met this -- British online underground warm. Up or. Yeah. It's cool it's want to do it everyday or dirty stuff. Album up at your -- it. -- So I mean really whatever you want I'll find. A label -- we are your school. Wrote -- wrote or somebody wants also on the line. Is her or. -- everybody else. Are pretty intertwined most. I'll. -- artists right here. And pretty strong. Preference or not. Relate so -- I think that's really well or. Or or this very. Strong. -- I don't know I really don't have a strong now as for -- I work on Friday by. Regular -- I guess one or. -- play a lot of hacker is and it's also like our music. Aren't they are now. -- That's a -- so. The audio out. -- Out. Reached out a little bit this live scene yup they're -- unpacked 51. What they are raised at. -- on episode or -- that it elsewhere react when asked that they L lo LC yeah out there are California's San Diego yeah."

" So you're Q one of the guys behind hacker median I was hoping it can tell me about what hacker is back out. Well there was a lot of will -- a podcast with Internet radio shows people but out -- there was no repositories like iTunes or media waiting to find these things. So I got and has all sort of word press logged in he would host shows and post about that people could find out more information about. And as the sites -- we inherited it and it's all based RSS feeds right now and we. Try to filter the content somewhat that it's not shows that are going all the time about promoting that we can promote the under. Dog is it would be that it -- didn't starting out show exactly the guys legs you know -- Yeah and and I find is invaluable resource for a lot of these little niche. Within the hacker. -- This up this not a iTunes and have use of it to convince people to make an RSS team for that we can. Get information about their shows. So what's what's new with act immediately. Where's that involving -- well where. We're working on a lot of things started to grow the site that we get pretty good traffic for a little site that aggregates podcast feeds. But -- working on adding a magazine section magazines time however I section for kinds. We have that featured showed that we're trying to change lot more would have been really cool single comes out. Working on taking shows YouTube video. That you were just putting their shows there and assume there. Working on -- music section is it's not like you're Jeremy Paul trying to grab everybody's that are in our culture the hacker culture. Aggregate -- at the most important thing. About Macromedia is not that it has these shows pressed to find now it's it has these just -- finally here right there's been a lot of shows is just an actor in the last three years that have com and then they're gone and then. If they're not hosting anymore. Where are today there on textiles dot com or -- on people's computers or -- or so so there are aggregating that trying to maintained that the archives that we have it history that we have a private -- that we try to download every show put on. -- so that we can actually do that one day. So you've got a project going on it's elegant aren't -- and -- one telling about what that is. I yeah we have a so called hacker public radio ad network. Well -- we have no hopes. -- say this contest and they don't and has every day like you wouldn't make resistant to us. You -- show like every month every two months or once a year or just once. But it's -- that you thought was really really cool. So if you think it's really cool and it's you're you're one month cool thing and other -- of other advocates need to survey taken this to someone else's one month cool thing. That's a quote that your -- about immediately -- recorded but you're -- and you know getting. That's actually building shows he's -- like it when -- thing that you think the world about. And it's a really going to syndicate your one off thing yeah and it's. You -- currently. 20250. A lot of -- we provide a much shatters like two heavy T radio have 300 shows -- to -- a number. And -- Radiohead. Several hundred shows one aggregate and a lot of people that are hosts have their own show so there's thousands of you know shows have been made that have come into this market so people find more -- media war once you how flick off the idea that they just what they do not like their monthly cool -- where can they get involved in our community -- hacker news dot org and -- public radio's hacker public radio dot org. And they just sign up to his sort of definitely you just sit it and and I didn't as the advent of the site he goes through it. And make sure sounds okay but we don't edit for content -- something highlight is -- and you like and great I love the idea but thanks so much does your desire."

" We want to thank Netflix for sponsoring this episode of -- five. With Netflix you can read over 90000 titles online including a lot of Blu-ray titles with free shipping both ways to your home. They now have over forty shipping centers so almost all deliveries happen in just one business day. The Netflix plans are from 499. As a new member you can get a no -- two week free trial membership. At www. Netflix dot com slash Hak5 remember to type the WWW. It's very important when using the code. Next up the chicken with injuring Crenshaw you may know him better as I --"

" So iron bead I've senior and how it performs just -- every form possible is the hacker world and I just I don't want to know what is it exactly that you do. Basically I'd take what other people have created -- both credit what. But I've developed the -- and pasted they don't have -- have a lot of people who want hellacious the better development and I am I look at development. -- People of the Y right and what I do video one though I do not take what they -- I understand myself. Digest it if we get educated about it will be with you understand. A lot of stuff that I've just recently my self I had a pet -- to -- that that teach them with someone else it's just though. But at that you've got to put with program last point is -- spectacular take for granted it's not we have introduced a brand new program is it good. Go out over the head -- let them to feel self you know the common pitfalls the mine. As though you know to tell them that they get fuel level. At that hold up people what started out there and double talk that later on like okay you know way boy -- operated. I thought it kept at the Google that I don't know will be -- happened it. You know get started it they'd pick in the -- So how long -- been doing this well I've blocked the site. Domain name back -- too often blocked at what I had a private site the like Al. 2002. I've missed packets taught at camp via like it was opened the with a I use that in fact he's all throughout the first season of Hak5 and then like it was a cam studio that got bought by -- yet -- another one bad thing named but it was an open source in the open source one is awesome yes I heard a lot of stock development on but. I thought that up like this but it 2002 both open and make fools yes if they really read the dot with. And ask what's that will allow and I don't have mixed but Kevin then I thought to pull out that's okay as they do in the broken -- like. I'll let -- it off but I immediate things out to be working at. Into people would doing might happen if that's not you guys and but that'll of them. Video podcasts that you -- that would if not -- and -- dispute but now that and that -- on the convention though. So where you're a hacker harder programmer I mean where was your professional that I think it's cute basically help this month. I have a -- I'd help if monkey who at the web that on the side -- that make the bit of money but you know it's -- at this point. But I don't let -- and I you know live stuff it and he of people occurred to Virgo is become a teach it to keep it but it makes security on this. That's also. So you were here at freaknik talking about you bloggers yet he orders are fun now you're not to talk about that those thoughtful ones everybody seems to program that the first thing to do when they learn like yet visual C plus. On there. That the most well at least one marketing. Eighty's pick up right though I was about all if you log at the -- in some places and I was one of them but. Oh well one. Like -- back a lot of epic. Yeah and that I thought that the -- the audit that completely. -- in the cape well. On. The way you want. The by. What it and you'd like you with the you all the would be windows if you'd be the use off the and which -- The united patents that. The USB but well. Well like. Afterward. At remote. Ballot and I see them 12. Counts of ways to buy software identified -- I mean. Act if we look. -- you should be so mom bought it really. Now -- example. Well I've become a law on you can do such a mystery died. Like lately. -- the -- 888 Leo at the art I -- along. It's. The quick guide. You'd you'd like. Oh world like. -- that is the network. -- Law and -- by the code at the app you use if the the law that it. Yeah -- you are even talking about them more sophisticated. Once you talk about particular delicacies like Bluetooth out of one but that. Yeah. I applaud Apple but I'll add Bluetooth based on that the active in the box when you install. -- Owner of epilogue he'd -- great. And -- help you log off the law applied. To what you'd. But -- me it sounds like you're getting into a lot more hardware stuff yeah is that is that the future that he is taking up -- look at well. The act. Like bugle but operation. Approximately an active. -- that the you on. It. Bad idea. With. Liability out -- problem. -- Which might mean L I love this idea that I am. -- The name. -- Yeah found well. And -- what sounds very. Very Hollywood and I like that idea so where can people go to check out more of your research and hopefully upcoming embedded devices that. Well on the video stuff. Bigger camera stuff nothing of it yet but all buddies that I eat out often and geek as -- it's great I -- I think so much for us that some time."

" And our visit to freaknik council close we got a thing to -- and staff and sky dark for putting on such a great time. Some highlights that you find in this episode supplemental material include telco bumps portable rate or. In an interview what's optimal and how recent legislation. Private investigators are at -- computer forensics industry we hope to see you -- and every piece of eastern states. To create an audience helpful will be back next week in studio. -- until then -- trust. -- Actually treatment that's I don't know like that -- What great things about the easiest. And are built into the bottle openers. Right let's say. So we just you know and you don't hear anything. -- So completely hacker friendly geek friendlies and bottle openers everywhere. A -- guys involved. -- yeah. I got that yeah."

" Wow."

" This is an -- brought you buy it GoDaddy got com. Netflix dot com and searching -- recoil."

" After hearing all the crazy stories about freaknik it was time to make act five road trip and see what it's all about. We had fun we made a few new friends and think for the cameras weren't around of the parties for the most part. So in Hak5 tradition we bring you a sampling if you will of this year's freaknik starting with an instant response which -- its software defined radio chimed in yeah."

" Basically. It are you. Oh. Analogue. -- Leave them. I. Had absolutely. -- So. I thought I click. And oh. A -- or white hat exactly you know and a little. -- And I --"

" And like any hacker. Of the normally you. This -- job easier. And what kind of stuff does that you."

" The -- love. It. Into programs like that. Moral. Are all. They. Have. At. -- It's. It's -- one. And -- That are. Right and had a problem. That. Though. -- And I. --"

" These compare that against -- image that you have that you. Okay so it's not just in actor every trial and drag and then go back hey yeah is yours or your INI -- whatever has been modified. -- Yeah and I. I find it beautiful. I would got to use tools from Microsoft. That it doesn't get picked up by antivirus because we're checking machine has supposedly been around."

" Obviously -- You know -- hired or. -- Com. Union and be one actually. -- goodnight. At what level. And yeah. Right all. Where. Are. -- right light. On where I don't run. So we. -- and I'm."

" Hard to find you -- it hasn't -- Yeah yeah -- the new to me so how are you gonna have these tools they'll let you know."

" Right now. Editor. I've -- com. -- or less in. Your."

" Awesome and and we and we throughout Europe on the Mac platform. -- and you'll often are a great actor. Here in. The data they're -- how are -- and."

" You're out -- I'm really. Oh well I ordered my radio and a new. Radio. Large action and you -- And imported into your. -- an add on an individual and higher and brought. Radio. -- that. Order or are. -- Well. Maldini. And general regular. Are all. On your ER. Ordered. Are very. Like. Amber. Or. It on. Goes along with you radio and they were. -- Designed. Is it. All. -- and -- you are right there is going was one. -- And and it might bring audio. This is doing -- ring and radio signal. -- So you're doing more site or. Other. One example arbor. -- What got inside. You -- operate. On. Motherboard and -- on. Our gallery. On I example I have. -- network. Oh about thirty meg. On. Old. Amber you. Like another when -- That. On. -- Every -- a lot of on the way to not very much got a motherboard and daughter card. Or their other daughter board or hurt. Otter -- or. Other wanted to -- tigers on. Right -- There is up to a site. And are sold on auto. Or or else I want were on one or. -- cellular and are. 900. And now."

" Oh yeah this is -- Our united you. -- our. Lets you are you ready and Roger. Now are. Basically just kind of process. Signal processor. Ram. -- You can connect blocks together and you come and raw data and what it out -- kind. Digital information or audio. Something like these. Are. Over. Our audio or video all that. -- better. Different different modular. USE which is. -- Yeah I know wanted to do something under wondered. Now does a lot of -- on board. Not the looking. Actor and thirty megahertz life. -- What exactly you want at and only hey. It that you. I view elect our somewhere where I act that there's a device. Opera right device operating on some. Odd that that and and kind of late equivalent. -- Exactly and it even better than that. I think -- somewhere around. -- and you can you can outlook get that out and then you say well. Here because -- On your on actor. And and are. You."

" Out or a lot of hardware ball and once edit -- today. Experiment in what year Yahoo! and you NRA and radio order and where -- it."

" Well Bob -- radio -- Art. The only. It. Her. -- hardware armed. And a that is next. -- around dollar. Daughter. -- Really great camera you know earned her poor. I really. Want to -- out a little bit."

" That's I like -- while. A lot of on -- when you. Oh a term like. That they are. -- your outlook out. -- Black art. Of war and know -- on the dollar air. How he had. Anyway I'm -- And aura it."

" Let's take a moment to thank one of our fabulous sponsors godaddy.com. GoDaddy has at all dot com domain names for as low as 199. Plus world class web hosting fast and easy website builders and much more plus is a fan of Hak5 you get five dollars off any order of thirty dollars or more. When you check out with a coupon code hack you. Now let's check in with eighty of dual core and groups of hacker media."

" Ice reached out. And it was not a country. And her party and at all. So the body and that your priest now. Cool. Well. Here. Like gravity like a mom -- mind. OK so you want my current -- in -- I had met this -- British online underground warm. Up or. Yeah. It's cool it's want to do it everyday or dirty stuff. Album up at your -- it. -- So I mean really whatever you want I'll find. A label -- we are your school. Wrote -- wrote or somebody wants also on the line. Is her or. -- everybody else. Are pretty intertwined most. I'll. -- artists right here. And pretty strong. Preference or not. Relate so -- I think that's really well or. Or or this very. Strong. -- I don't know I really don't have a strong now as for -- I work on Friday by. Regular -- I guess one or. -- play a lot of hacker is and it's also like our music. Aren't they are now. -- That's a -- so. The audio out. -- Out. Reached out a little bit this live scene yup they're -- unpacked 51. What they are raised at. -- on episode or -- that it elsewhere react when asked that they L lo LC yeah out there are California's San Diego yeah."

" So you're Q one of the guys behind hacker median I was hoping it can tell me about what hacker is back out. Well there was a lot of will -- a podcast with Internet radio shows people but out -- there was no repositories like iTunes or media waiting to find these things. So I got and has all sort of word press logged in he would host shows and post about that people could find out more information about. And as the sites -- we inherited it and it's all based RSS feeds right now and we. Try to filter the content somewhat that it's not shows that are going all the time about promoting that we can promote the under. Dog is it would be that it -- didn't starting out show exactly the guys legs you know -- Yeah and and I find is invaluable resource for a lot of these little niche. Within the hacker. -- This up this not a iTunes and have use of it to convince people to make an RSS team for that we can. Get information about their shows. So what's what's new with act immediately. Where's that involving -- well where. We're working on a lot of things started to grow the site that we get pretty good traffic for a little site that aggregates podcast feeds. But -- working on adding a magazine section magazines time however I section for kinds. We have that featured showed that we're trying to change lot more would have been really cool single comes out. Working on taking shows YouTube video. That you were just putting their shows there and assume there. Working on -- music section is it's not like you're Jeremy Paul trying to grab everybody's that are in our culture the hacker culture. Aggregate -- at the most important thing. About Macromedia is not that it has these shows pressed to find now it's it has these just -- finally here right there's been a lot of shows is just an actor in the last three years that have com and then they're gone and then. If they're not hosting anymore. Where are today there on textiles dot com or -- on people's computers or -- or so so there are aggregating that trying to maintained that the archives that we have it history that we have a private -- that we try to download every show put on. -- so that we can actually do that one day. So you've got a project going on it's elegant aren't -- and -- one telling about what that is. I yeah we have a so called hacker public radio ad network. Well -- we have no hopes. -- say this contest and they don't and has every day like you wouldn't make resistant to us. You -- show like every month every two months or once a year or just once. But it's -- that you thought was really really cool. So if you think it's really cool and it's you're you're one month cool thing and other -- of other advocates need to survey taken this to someone else's one month cool thing. That's a quote that your -- about immediately -- recorded but you're -- and you know getting. That's actually building shows he's -- like it when -- thing that you think the world about. And it's a really going to syndicate your one off thing yeah and it's. You -- currently. 20250. A lot of -- we provide a much shatters like two heavy T radio have 300 shows -- to -- a number. And -- Radiohead. Several hundred shows one aggregate and a lot of people that are hosts have their own show so there's thousands of you know shows have been made that have come into this market so people find more -- media war once you how flick off the idea that they just what they do not like their monthly cool -- where can they get involved in our community -- hacker news dot org and -- public radio's hacker public radio dot org. And they just sign up to his sort of definitely you just sit it and and I didn't as the advent of the site he goes through it. And make sure sounds okay but we don't edit for content -- something highlight is -- and you like and great I love the idea but thanks so much does your desire."

" We want to thank Netflix for sponsoring this episode of -- five. With Netflix you can read over 90000 titles online including a lot of Blu-ray titles with free shipping both ways to your home. They now have over forty shipping centers so almost all deliveries happen in just one business day. The Netflix plans are from 499. As a new member you can get a no -- two week free trial membership. At www. Netflix dot com slash Hak5 remember to type the WWW. It's very important when using the code. Next up the chicken with injuring Crenshaw you may know him better as I --"

" So iron bead I've senior and how it performs just -- every form possible is the hacker world and I just I don't want to know what is it exactly that you do. Basically I'd take what other people have created -- both credit what. But I've developed the -- and pasted they don't have -- have a lot of people who want hellacious the better development and I am I look at development. -- People of the Y right and what I do video one though I do not take what they -- I understand myself. Digest it if we get educated about it will be with you understand. A lot of stuff that I've just recently my self I had a pet -- to -- that that teach them with someone else it's just though. But at that you've got to put with program last point is -- spectacular take for granted it's not we have introduced a brand new program is it good. Go out over the head -- let them to feel self you know the common pitfalls the mine. As though you know to tell them that they get fuel level. At that hold up people what started out there and double talk that later on like okay you know way boy -- operated. I thought it kept at the Google that I don't know will be -- happened it. You know get started it they'd pick in the -- So how long -- been doing this well I've blocked the site. Domain name back -- too often blocked at what I had a private site the like Al. 2002. I've missed packets taught at camp via like it was opened the with a I use that in fact he's all throughout the first season of Hak5 and then like it was a cam studio that got bought by -- yet -- another one bad thing named but it was an open source in the open source one is awesome yes I heard a lot of stock development on but. I thought that up like this but it 2002 both open and make fools yes if they really read the dot with. And ask what's that will allow and I don't have mixed but Kevin then I thought to pull out that's okay as they do in the broken -- like. I'll let -- it off but I immediate things out to be working at. Into people would doing might happen if that's not you guys and but that'll of them. Video podcasts that you -- that would if not -- and -- dispute but now that and that -- on the convention though. So where you're a hacker harder programmer I mean where was your professional that I think it's cute basically help this month. I have a -- I'd help if monkey who at the web that on the side -- that make the bit of money but you know it's -- at this point. But I don't let -- and I you know live stuff it and he of people occurred to Virgo is become a teach it to keep it but it makes security on this. That's also. So you were here at freaknik talking about you bloggers yet he orders are fun now you're not to talk about that those thoughtful ones everybody seems to program that the first thing to do when they learn like yet visual C plus. On there. That the most well at least one marketing. Eighty's pick up right though I was about all if you log at the -- in some places and I was one of them but. Oh well one. Like -- back a lot of epic. Yeah and that I thought that the -- the audit that completely. -- in the cape well. On. The way you want. The by. What it and you'd like you with the you all the would be windows if you'd be the use off the and which -- The united patents that. The USB but well. Well like. Afterward. At remote. Ballot and I see them 12. Counts of ways to buy software identified -- I mean. Act if we look. -- you should be so mom bought it really. Now -- example. Well I've become a law on you can do such a mystery died. Like lately. -- the -- 888 Leo at the art I -- along. It's. The quick guide. You'd you'd like. Oh world like. -- that is the network. -- Law and -- by the code at the app you use if the the law that it. Yeah -- you are even talking about them more sophisticated. Once you talk about particular delicacies like Bluetooth out of one but that. Yeah. I applaud Apple but I'll add Bluetooth based on that the active in the box when you install. -- Owner of epilogue he'd -- great. And -- help you log off the law applied. To what you'd. But -- me it sounds like you're getting into a lot more hardware stuff yeah is that is that the future that he is taking up -- look at well. The act. Like bugle but operation. Approximately an active. -- that the you on. It. Bad idea. With. Liability out -- problem. -- Which might mean L I love this idea that I am. -- The name. -- Yeah found well. And -- what sounds very. Very Hollywood and I like that idea so where can people go to check out more of your research and hopefully upcoming embedded devices that. Well on the video stuff. Bigger camera stuff nothing of it yet but all buddies that I eat out often and geek as -- it's great I -- I think so much for us that some time."

" And our visit to freaknik council close we got a thing to -- and staff and sky dark for putting on such a great time. Some highlights that you find in this episode supplemental material include telco bumps portable rate or. In an interview what's optimal and how recent legislation. Private investigators are at -- computer forensics industry we hope to see you -- and every piece of eastern states. To create an audience helpful will be back next week in studio. -- until then -- trust. -- Actually treatment that's I don't know like that -- What great things about the easiest. And are built into the bottle openers. Right let's say. So we just you know and you don't hear anything. -- So completely hacker friendly geek friendlies and bottle openers everywhere. A -- guys involved. -- yeah. I got that yeah."